WP:Teahouse#(163693) Atira infobox

i am wanting to write an article on above specified topic is it qualified if not pls tell me an article in which i can make it a sub heading Blackmightydeath (talk) 02:38, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:It seems an unsuitable topic for an encyclopedia article, as its subject matter would change from year to year. Maproom (talk) 07:44, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

::i am changing it to Indian biomedical projects would that do the work Blackmightydeath (talk) 01:35, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:To get an encyclopedic topic you could limit the time, or cover all time; there are articles like 2023 in India but we don't have 2023 in medicine let alone Indian biomedical projects or biomedical research in India which may be possible topics. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:12, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:Medical articles need to comply with WP:MEDGUIDE. You can ask for specialist help at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:17, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

I want to put a render drawn in Flash of myself, I saw that there is a version of asking for pages but I lost it, if anyone knows, please give me the link. PixelWhite (talk) 03:42, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{yo|PixelWhite}} If you have already drawn the image, see Wikipedia:Uploading images. If not see Wikipedia:Requested pictures. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:18, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

::I also want to ask if it is valid a drawn image of a user PixelWhite (talk) 13:36, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

::@Graeme Bartlett: I uploaded [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:LinnMao.png LinnMao.png]. PixelWhite (talk) 15:00, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Looks like you succeeded in using it. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:43, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, I am trying to show this way (https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1319568111) to this article (Institute of Economic Growth). However, I am unable to that, unlike my earlier attempts at miranda house (Miranda House) where I had to only transfer the coordinates from wikipedia to wikidata. KhubsuratInsaan (talk) 11:29, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hi KhubsuratInsaan, welcome to the Teahouse. You can add | mapframe = yes. See more at Template:Infobox institute#Mapframe maps. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:44, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

::TYSM! KhubsuratInsaan (talk) 13:15, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

::Oh BTW, it is displaying the shape properly in the article, but when I maximize the map the shape disappears leaving just the point. Is this a bug? KhubsuratInsaan (talk) 13:20, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:::{{ping|KhubsuratInsaan}} I still see the shape after maximizing on the square at top right of the map. I use Firefox on Windows 10. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:56, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

::::I am using Firefox for Android 13. Tried it in the private tab too with the same result. Where can I report this bug? KhubsuratInsaan (talk) 16:15, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

::::Using mapframe = yes worked for a while but now I am getting issues in other articles. St. Stephen's College, Delhi doesn't show the way, even though I have used mapframe = yes and added relevant stuff at wikidata entry. KhubsuratInsaan (talk) 08:16, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::Yay! I fixed it by removing location parameter. KhubsuratInsaan (talk) 15:29, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Disney just aired a ad saying exactly that on Disney Channel.

Source: I'm watching it right now

Mickey Mouse Clubhouse+.

-bBr3adGD (talk) 15:01, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @-bBr3adGD, and welcome to the Teahouse.

:Saying what? I don't understand. ColinFine (talk) 15:23, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

::I think -bBr3adGD means for the July 21 2025 date mentioned in the lead, with a {{t|cn}} tag. A secondary source would be better. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:48, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Alternate source

:::https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/disney/images/9/95/Mickey_Mouse_Clubhouse%2B_Poster.jpeg/revision/latest?cb=20250614021436 -bBr3adGD (talk) 20:48, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

::::The english poster for the show, with release date on the bottom left -bBr3adGD (talk) 20:49, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

I recently proposed a move suggestion, however I realized that I miscapitalized the title, and no one, not even myself, support the title in the original suggestion. Could I edit my own title to reflect the correct capitalization? Yes I am a nerd -XCBRO172 (How could you tell?) 19:07, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:I assume you're referring to Talk:Mother (video game)#Requested move 23 June 25. I think it should be okay for you to indicate that you made a mistake and noting the correct title, but don't just go in and change it in the proposal itself, as that can lead to confusion (extreme example: imagine everyone supporting a move proposal, but someone changes the title so it looks like they support something completely different. That would be bad!) GoldRomean (talk) 20:51, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Issue: The article Mattel Television uses a mix of both MDY (e.g., June 24, 2025) and DMY (e.g., 24 June 2025) dates, when it should only use one or the other. There is no template to indicate this. I would've contacted the WikiProject Wikipedia:Date formattings, but they are currently inactive. Which one should the article use? 1isall (talk/contribs) 20:55, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @1isall, and welcome to the Teahouse. Please see WP:DATEVAR.

:In short, Wikipedia does not mandate any particular format, but it should be consistent within an article.

:(I may observe that, from my British perspective, I would probably not even notice that those were different, as both are equally natural to me. If the dates were in figures, I would certainly notice). ColinFine (talk) 21:01, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:Looking at the creation of the the article, mdy is used. Knitsey (talk) 21:04, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

::Basically, I should go to one of the earlier revisions to see which format was the prominent one? 1isall (talk/contribs) 21:07, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:::With the usual caveats about talk page discussions then I think this is what you might need MOS:DATETIES and MOS:DATERET. Knitsey (talk) 21:16, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

::::Yeah, Mattel is an American company, and the format used in America is MDY. 1isall (talk/contribs) 21:22, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::You could add the mdy template at the top of the article which might help other editors. Maybe add a quick message on the talk page for the reasoning, mentioning the above MOS links so that anyone looking at it knows why you've added the template. Knitsey (talk) 21:28, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

A new addition to the asexual spectrum. Interdeimosexual or Contrafodiosexual, is a sexuality where someone may experience sexual attraction, and engages in sexual activity but draws the line at any form of penetration. Someone who is Interdeimosexual might enjoy mutual sexual activity, but has no desire, want, or fear of penetration. Kalexel (talk) 02:26, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:So what is your question, Kalexel? -- Hoary (talk) 02:28, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::I would like for someone to rewrite this definition and sexuality with better sources since I do not have the time or knowledge to do so, and am unsure how to create a proper page for it, but don't know how to request that, or how to really work wikipedia since I am very new to this side of it. Kalexel (talk) 02:37, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Not sure how easy researching this will be since I only see results for intersex and contrasexual when googling (the latter of which is similar to what you are suggesting). Someone might be able to find more with some digging. TheDowningStreetCat (talk) 06:55, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:::People have radically different interests, Kalexel. It's highly unlikely that anyone here will think "That sounds fascinating. Let me spend two hours at Google Scholar reading it up, then two more writing a draft about it!" At this point it's customary to recommend a trip to Wikipedia:Requested articles, but that's a waste of time. The key term here is DIY. -- Hoary (talk) 10:43, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::::@Kalexel Sounds to me that you would be better to start with Wiktionary but you will still need at least one reliable source for any word you add. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:14, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

I was told to come here to ask if I could post these genre sources:

1. For For Your Love, there is an article (https://bluesrockreview.com/2024/11/10-british-bands-that-shaped-blues-rock.html) which says that this song is blues rock with experimental flair, so I was wondering if I can cite this song as blues rock and experimental rock
2. For Girls & Boys, I was wondering if I could cite the song as Eurodance by this [https://music.apple.com/us/album/parklife/699665183 article]. And alternative rock and synth-rock by this [https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/the-10-best-blur-songs/ article]
3. For Just What I Needed, can I cite this song as punk rock and hard rock by this [https://music.apple.com/us/album/complete-greatest-hits/1088530786 article]
4. For Cool Night, can I cite the song as soft rock by this [https://entertainment.expertscolumn.com/200-greatest-soft-rock-songs article]. And proto-chillwave by this [https://www.billboard.com/music/rock/tame-impala-slow-rush-soft-rock-influences-8551033/ article].
5. For Strawberry Fields Forever, can I cite the song as experimental rock by this [https://books.google.com/books?id=jtNtEAAAQBAJ&pg=PA15&dq=33+1/3+revolutions+per+minute&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiog7WtuouOAxXpSzABHR2jEkUQ6AF6BAgEEAM book]
6. For You Are What You Is, can I cite the song as boogie rock from this [https://www.udiscovermusic.com/stories/frank-zappa-you-are-what-you-is-feature/ article] which calls the song a “boogie”
7. For Radar Love, can I cite the song as blues rock by this [https://bluesrockreview.com/2024/02/10-timeless-blues-rock-songs-of-the-1970s.html article]. And progressive pop by this [https://www.loudersound.com/features/golden-earring-radar-love-moontan-prog article].
8. For Crosseyed and Painless, can I cite the song as electronica by this [https://www.pastemagazine.com/music/talking-heads/the-30-greatest-talking-heads-songs-ranked article]. And psychedelia, funk, and world music by this article by this [https://books.google.com/books?id=mCQEAAAAMBAJ&dq=&source=gbs_all_issues_r&cad=1 book]
9. For This Must Be the Place (Naive Melody), can I cite the song as indie rock by this [https://www.spin.com/2022/09/the-10-most-important-talking-heads-moments/ article]
10. For Psycho Killer, can I cite the song as shock rock by this [https://www.goldradiouk.com/features/song-lists/1977-songs-best-ranked/ article]
11. For Shakedown Street, can I cite the song as rock by this [https://www.allmusic.com/song/shakedown-street-mt0011897326 article], cite this song as R&B by this [https://archive.org/details/americanbookofde0000trag book], and disco by this [https://music.apple.com/us/album/shakedown-street/663672224 article]
12. For Pump It Up, can I cite the song as hard rock by this [https://books.google.com/books?id=X7-GZm2de98C&dq book]. And can I cite it as garage rock from this [https://www.azcentral.com/story/entertainment/music/2016/08/30/elvis-costello-20-best-albums-my-aim-roots/89541286/ article]
13. For When Doves Cry, can I cite the song as hard rock and progressive rock by this [https://books.google.com/books/about/Rock.html?id=HiwJAQAAMAAJ book]
14. For Tight Rope, can I cite the song as jazz rock by this [https://books.google.com/books?id=lJS4EArRBwoC book], cite this song as ragtime by this [https://chaospin.com/best-leon-russell-songs/ article], and circus music by this [https://americansongwriter.com/review-leon-russells-long-overdue-tribute-album-is-a-mixed-bag/ article]
15. For Johnny and Mary, can I cite the song as synth-rock by this [https://nialler9.com/album-of-the-week-todd-terje-its-album-time/ article]
16. For Major Tom (Coming Home), can I cite the song as space rock by this [https://web.archive.org/web/20160826113156/https://riverofrock.com/top-9-space-rock-songs/ article]
17. For I Wouldn't Want to Be Like You, can I cite the song as disco-rock by this [https://www.allmusic.com/album/i-robot-mw0000650611 article]
18. For Talking in Your Sleep, can I cite the song as a rock song by this [https://wcsx.com/listicle/15-rock-songs-turning-40-in-2023/ article]. Can I also cite the song as a garage rock song by this [https://books.google.com/books?id=XouvElhxOiMC book]
19. For Solsbury Hill, can I cite the song as arena rock by this [https://www.pastemagazine.com/music/peter-gabriel/20-greatest-peter-gabriel-songs-of-all-time-2 article]. Can I also cite it as folk rock by this [https://www.loudersound.com/features/peter-gabriel-best-albums article]

I’m sorry, I can get impatient with the talk pages, I was told to go here to ask help so I don’t get a vandalism warning, are the sources perfect? 209.96.222.65 (talk) 02:34, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:If you think they meet the reliable source guidelines, then I see no reason why you can't use them. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 11:17, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:IP editor. None of these sources look problematic to me. The worst that will happen if you cite them when you edit the various articles is that some other editor will revert your addition. If that happens, start a discussion on the talk page of the relevant article, pinging the person who reverted you. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:54, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::Well the person was FlightTime phone and they said it was vandalism. Although, I was just editing Wikipedia 209.96.222.136 (talk) 14:30, :::25 June 2025 (UTC)

:::I assume that this was at User talk:209.96.222.65. But I see no accusation of vandalism there. Maproom (talk) 15:24, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:::On my talk pages, I was accused of vandalism and got a block warning for my edits on Come Sail Away, Baby, I Love You, and Talking in Your Sleep, although I edited them with reliable sources. 209.96.222.65 (talk) 15:29, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::::Neither User talk:209.96.222.65 nor User talk:209.96.222.136 has any mention of vandalism. What other talk pages do you have? Maproom (talk) 07:44, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

I'm a fairly new editor who can't write an article just yet but I discovered a novel by Blake Varnadoe that meets wikipedia's guidelines for the notability of a book. It's titled Eclipsar, and has in-depth coverage by outlets including WAGA-TV and WTVM. Since I'm not that skilled yet, could someone write an article about this for me? Greattastingfruit (talk) 02:39, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:If it is notable as you say, someone will probably get around to writing an article about the book sometime or later. If you want to you can also try adding to Wikipedia:Requested articles, intended to show to editors who are looking for a topic to research and potentially create a new article on. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 03:11, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:Earlier, you suggested that you wanted an article about the writer because he wanted it. This novel of his: how did you "discover" it? -- Hoary (talk) 03:42, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

{{courtesy link|Draft:Kanni Wignaraja}}

Hello Teahouse community,

I’m currently working on a draft article about Kanni Wignaraja, a senior Sri Lankan UN official and development expert. Despite including multiple independent, reliable sources such as Project Syndicate, Nikkei Asia, Dag Hammarskjöld Foundation interviews, and various media appearances, my submission has been declined with feedback that it “is not adequately supported by reliable sources” and “does not demonstrate sufficient significant coverage to establish notability.”

I want to keep the draft’s content intact because it accurately reflects the subject’s career and impact, but I’m struggling to meet the notability and sourcing guidelines as stated by reviewers. I’m looking for advice or assistance from seasoned editors on how to:

Strengthen or restructure citations to clearly demonstrate independent significant coverage,

Address notability concerns effectively,

Improve referencing format and source selection without rewriting or removing the core content.

Any pointers, examples, or offers of help to review or guide the draft would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you very much for your time and support!

Best regards,

Karma Jamtsho (User: Jjamtshokkarma) Jjamtshokkarma (talk) 09:17, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:You were given advice when your draft was last declined, which I have now restored to the page. Since that last review, you have edited it considerably. If you feel it now meets the criteria for publication, resubmit it for review.

:However, if you are "struggling to meet the notability and sourcing guidelines", then it may be that the subject is not eligible for a Wikipedia article; see WP:TOOSOON.

:See WP:LIBRARY for places where you can find, or get help finding, sources. You may also get help at your local public library (or your school or college library, if you are a student). Remember that paper sources, as well as those found online, can be used. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:37, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:@Jjamtshokkarma Just to say that {{tq|interviews, and various media appearances}} don't help with establishing notability, as they are not independent of the subject. They should only be used in a limited way as described at this page. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:09, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

I’m wondering, what does this purge page button do? Does it record in the logs? 2600:387:F:5719:0:0:0:3 (talk) 09:21, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:See Help:Purge; and no (at least not in the logs visible to users like us; who knows what the devs can see?). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:29, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::@Pigsonthewing How could devs see the purge logs? 2600:387:F:5719:0:0:0:3 (talk) 09:51, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Andy (or I, or anyone else) would have to be a dev to know. Perhaps a dev will happen to read this query and answer, but there might be a good reason for devs not to give non-devs such information. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.6.41.216 (talk) 14:46, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:::I did not say "devs can see the purge logs". I said "who knows what the devs can see?" Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:44, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

I need some help, how could I upload images on Wikipedia, and how to create a gallery on this article? DecalMaker22 (talk) 09:45, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:Please, DecalMaker22. see "how to add photos to an article", above. -- Hoary (talk) 10:34, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::I'd also take a look at MOS:GALLERY and consider, does this article really need a gallery? -- D'n'B-📞 -- 15:12, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:::@DandelionAndBurdock I think so, only occasionally. DecalMaker22 (talk) 19:29, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

what is

https://intake-analytics.wikimedia.org/v1/events?hasty=true

Piñanana (talk) 11:44, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:Piñanana, your link doesn't work for me (and I've removed it from the section heading). Intake analytics are part of the way that Wikimedia logs the use of their sites. See [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_and_Decision_Science/Data_glossary/Clickthrough_Rate this page] for a rather technical partial explanation which includes a link to where the code is hosted on github. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:03, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::it shows up in browser plugin logs

::Piñanana (talk) 12:14, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:::"Hyperlink auditing"

:::Piñanana (talk) 12:18, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

So i have been editing the page for Marble Hornets. before i stared the Rater said it's was a C-class article, after some editing i got a B or higher class rating. but then in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marble_Hornets&diff=prev&oldid=1297300965 this edit] it now says it a C-class article. And i have no idea why it says this, can someone help me understand what when wrong here?

Thanks 1timeuse75 (talk) 12:37, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:This is because you removed 2,457 of data. Nothing is wrong here, that's just one of the things the rater looks at. Cheers, MallardTV ^{Talk to me!} 13:45, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::2,457 bytes^ MallardTV ^{Talk to me!} 13:45, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:::ah okay, that make sense. also cool signature MallardTV 1timeuse75 (talk) 13:48, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

What should I do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BurningB (talk • contribs) 14:12, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:and Bangladeshi, not sure about Pakistan. BurningB (talk) 14:17, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::I don't know what they call it BurningB (talk) 14:18, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Hello, @BurningB, and welcome to the Teahouse.

:::Since a large-scale change like that may be controversial, the first thing you should do is to open a discussion on either WT:WikiProject India or WT:WikiProject Television, and get consensus for the change.

:::I suggest putting it on the Television project talk page, and put a note on the India talk page pointing to the discussion.

:::You might find a lot of people agree with you, and it's easy to get consensus. Alternatively you might find that few people agree with you: if that happens it's your responsibility, if you still want to pursue it, to persuade people that your suggestion is a good one. ColinFine (talk) 15:07, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:Be sure you understand what "web" means. You might, instead, be thinking of "internet", or "streaming". Bazza 7 (talk) 16:23, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::{{ping|BurningB}} If you refer to article names then try some searches of Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (television), e.g. finding Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (television)/Archive 16#Series disambiguators for streaming platforms. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:39, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

If a song is described as having a “garage band” sound, should I cite the song as garage rock -- 209.96.222.67 (talk) 15:17, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:In what sense do you wish to "cite" it? Do you mean categorize it? Shantavira|^{feed me} 16:00, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::Yes 209.96.222.65 (talk) 17:15, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

If a song is described as having an “arena-ready chorus”, should I cite the song as arena rock -- 209.96.222.67 (talk) 15:20, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:You would need to use what the source says. So if the source says it's actually electropop but has an "arena-ready chorus" it would still be electropop. If the source provides no input on the genre at all then you would not use it to cite the genre. aquarium substrate^talk 16:35, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::in particular you may wish to slow down or use the talk pages to discuss changes before adjusting the genre. perhaps check out wikiproject music for some advice. aquarium substrate^talk 16:40, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

I am attempting to submit a page Draft:David Evans Shaw as a biography. I have made two attempts. The first editors critique I understood and I removed issues related to "puffery" and this seems to have been resolved. On the second submission, I have received a rejection based on the comment that it needs to be written in a more neutral voice eg "encyclopaedic" there is also a mention of more varied references. I believe I have cited significant verifiable references, but have added more, and I have gone through and further tried to make the tone more neutral but am struggling to understand what about the article is problematic. Could someone take a look and give me some assistance to get this over the "neutral" hurdle? Draft:David Evans Shaw. Thanks in advance

{{Reflist}} Profberger (talk) 15:25, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:If you haven't checked the notices at the top of your draft I would suggest you do so. The links there do provide the best advice to improve the article, which anyone is likely to repeat here.

:I personally would suggest reading the article aloud to yourself to see how it sounds. Or to check out various featured article biographies as those are well-made articles that can serve as an idea of what you should aim for in your writing.

:The teahouse isn't really for pre-reviews but you should check out the reliable sources page in particular along with the notability page. I glanced over this and most of the references seem to be press releases from companies directly connected to Shaw. aquarium substrate^talk 16:24, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{u|Profberger}}: here's something that will be easy to fix. Section headers should be in sentence case, not headline case or all-caps. Maproom (talk) 07:33, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

HI, I have gone through WP:Disambiguation, but it does not say how to create such a page? We need one for:

Hazel Smith - Wikipedia and Hazel Smith (writer) - Wikipedia? Thanks! LoveElectronicLiterature (talk) 17:33, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:Just create a page titled "Hazel Smith (disambiguation)", and then link the two separate articles with a short blurb about each. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 17:38, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::I have added a hatnote to Hazel Smith. As there is a primary topic with one other topic, I don't think a disambig page is necessary. JuniperChill (talk) 18:23, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

What is the policy on warning registered and unregistered users for vandalism? Sabrabi 📬 20:58, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, {{u|Sabrabi}}. Please read WP:Vandalism#How to respond to vandalism. Speaking as an administrator, my response depends on the severity of the vandalism. I will give a level 1 warning for one instance of childish vandalism on an article of interest to children. I will indefinitely block without warning in a case of malicious vandalism involving a threat of violence. Cullen328 (talk) 22:25, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thanks. Sabrabi 📬 13:23, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi, I have a question. An editor tried to add content to a BLP article, but I reverted it due to the lack of a reliable source. He later messaged me and admitted that he couldn't find a reliable source for the information, but still wanted to include it with a citation needed tag added to his own edit.

From what I understand, the citation needed tag is generally used for existing unsourced content, not for adding new information that can't be verified. Is it acceptable for an editor to add content they know can't be sourced and just tag it with citation needed? - Arcrev1 (talk) 00:44, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @Arcrev1, and welcome to the Teahouse. That is not acceptable, as the editor is intentionally introducing original research.

:Ideally, {{tl|cn}} would never be used, because anybody finding uncited information would either find a source or remove the information, but in practice that often doesn't happen. I would call it disruptive editing to add the template when the information is first inserted. ColinFine (talk) 09:00, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello all! I have recently come across an article with what I perceived to be of low quality and want to fix it. I have outlined the problems in its talk page, and would like some help on judging the extent of modification and approach, thank you all very much for your time! 3turtl (talk) 01:01, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @3turtl, and welcome to the Teahouse.

:Your comment has only been there a few hours: wait a couple of days more to see if anybody else comments.

:Then either be bold and start editing the article (I recommend a number of separate edits rather than one huge change); or raise the matter at WP:TAIWAN ColinFine (talk) 09:07, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

why is there no option to send draft for review?? BurningB (talk) 01:25, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:please tell me BurningB (talk) 01:56, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::@BurningB If you are talking about Draft:Goldmines Telefilms, then you have successfully submitted it for review. Adding {{subst:submit}} did the trick and added the article into the queue of drafts waiting for review. You will now need to wait for someone to get to your draft and review it, so please be patient. However, the draft was started by @Tushar3011, so I pinged them. Generally, it is good practice to let the creator of the draft know if you are contributing to it. Justjourney (talk | contribs) 03:22, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Yes, I was waiting for a response, but no one responded, so I checked the Draft article on Wikipedia and got there.BurningB (talk) 03:31, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::::So, I have to let them know when editing or submitting?@Justjourney BurningB (talk) 03:34, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::@BurningB The reason why I said that is because I encountered this idea before, and asked the teahouse here. @Jéské Couriano (pinging) told me that editors often get annoyed when they step in and help. However, according to WP:DRAFTMOVE, it says that any editor can jump in and help out with a draft, as the editing policy applies to drafts as well. I said it is good practice to ask the editor, but you're not required to do so. Justjourney (talk | contribs) 03:40, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::but why Wikipedia Not your own apply here??? BurningB (talk) 03:57, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::::I'm talking about a page i read BurningB (talk) 03:57, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::::Sorry, but I don't understand your question, please write it again. Justjourney (talk | contribs) 04:00, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::::::WP:NOT OWN or something idk, says not your property or something BurningB (talk) 04:05, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::::::Wikipedia:Ownership of content this BurningB (talk) 04:06, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::::::::That's exactly what WP:DRAFTMOVE says, that you don't own drafts, and other editors can take action on it. I was just saying what my experience was with the Teahouse question (I asked back in February 2025) that I mentioned earlier. See Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive_1248#Helping_with_a_draft. That was what [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive_1248#c-J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano-20250217174200-Justjourney-20250217174000 another editor said] (@Jéské Couriano). Justjourney (talk | contribs) 04:12, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::::::::So you should decide whether to notify the draft's creator or not. Justjourney (talk | contribs) 04:13, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::::::::Thank you @Justjourney. do you know how many days it needs to be reviewed? BurningB (talk) 05:30, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::::::::::BurningB, near the top of Draft:Goldmines Telefilms we read "Review waiting, please be patient. This may take 2–3 weeks or more..." -- Hoary (talk)

I was looking at the history section of "7075 Aluminium Alloy" and noticed that the page claims that the alloy was made in secret in 1935. However, the source cited states that, "by 1935 (Showa 10), the Super Duralumin alloy had already been developed" and says nothing about it being made in secrecy. I then decided to check the citations of the article cited in the Wikipedia citation. Through this, I verified that the inventor of aluminium 7075 started working on the project in 1935, published a paper about it in July of that year, and filed for a patent in 1936. However, there was still no claim of all this being done in secret.

Would this be an incorrect citation? Can someone find out whether or not the secrecy claim is true? Am I overreacting to an incredibly mundane problem? What should people do when they come across citations that only verify part of a claim?

Thanks! Woodenturnip (talk) 02:15, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:If theres no source stating that the alloy was secretly developed, then the best course of action is to remove that claim. If a source can be found, then add another citation to the claim, verifying the statement about secrecy. Anyways, this would be better discussed on that article's talk page. TheDowningStreetCat (talk) 02:21, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::Gotcha. Thank you! Woodenturnip (talk) 02:25, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

This subject is closed to me,i've already added news references on that page,help to make that page permanent Ranjeetsharmajournalist (talk) 03:35, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:What's your question? -- D'n'B-📞 -- 04:14, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:Perhaps this is somehow related to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Real Khabar. -- Hoary (talk) 07:06, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

The Thirty Days of Christmas is a English Christmas carol, folksong, parody song, counting out, and nursery rhyme. it has a Roud Folk Song Index of 1178. 2604:F6C0:5054:A800:CD9E:49B5:D03B:1101 (talk) 05:00, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:Do you have a question about editing or using Wikipedia? -- Hoary (talk) 06:39, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello there fellow Wikipedians, I'm very new. But, please explain why do few Roblox games, that are Dress to Impress, Grow a Garden, and Sonic Speed Simulator have their own Wikipedia articles, while others games, such as Natural Disaster Survival, and Forsaken, have not? Are there still drafts related to separate Roblox games? NoteTaking3690 (talk) 05:20, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello @NoteTaking3690. Notability on Wikipedia can be a strange concept. Articles are not created based on popularity, but the amount of reliable, secondary sourcing that prove the subject is notable on its own right.

:Perhaps those articles don't exist simply because no one tried yet. You can attempt to create your own/improve someone else's drafts and submit them to WP:AFC for publication, but success is unlikely. Tarlby ^{(t) (c)} 05:31, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::@Tarlby Ok, I took a look at the reference section in all of these three articles and I'm extremely surprised that all of these games are covered in significant media coverage, especially on the game journalism. I tried searching on Google, but would all of these games, (Dress to Impress, Grow a Garden, and Sonic Speed Simulator) be featured in news also?

::I found a link that featured Roblox games: [https://www.thegamer.com/roblox-best-restaurant-cafe-management-games/] NoteTaking3690 (talk) 05:38, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Recently, I had looked up "The race to win Staten Island" to find the generally-regarded-as-false story of Captain Christopher Billopp winning Staten Island by sailing around it in less than 24 hours. I arrived at the article after looking through the search results, but realized a redirect page might be helpful, as many people might be introduced to the topic by the GCP Grey YouTube video of the same title. However, I realized that this topic was also covered in the article on Staten Island itself, specifically in the Richmond County subsection. My question is thus, when creating a redirect page for a subtopic covered in multiple articles, which article should be selected? Should it be the largest article? The one with the seemingly most in-depth explanation? The article with a more general focus? NormalSpider (talk) 06:25, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:NormalSpider, if I want to read up on a matter, and if no article is devoted to the matter, then I'd like to be shown, or taken, to an article that is nevertheless informative about the matter. Your options seem to be to redirect to Captain Christopher Billopp or Staten Island#Richmond_County. Which of this pair is more likely to satisfy the reader's curiosity? -- Hoary (talk) 07:15, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::{{ping|NormalSpider}} For what it's worth, Captain Christopher Billopp#Staten Island Legend seems to me the better redirect target. Deor (talk) 14:30, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Thank you everyone for the input. I decided to redirect to the article on Captain Christopher Billopp, as it has a section fully dedicated to the story.

:::The race to win Staten Island NormalSpider (talk) 21:42, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

It is based in humour, but is it? Apologies if it is. I will change it if it is considered. StopLookingAtMe1 (talk) 07:53, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:yes BurningB (talk) 09:19, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::{{Ping|BurningB}} Your account is two days old. Maybe you should avoid answering questions here until you understand more about Wikipedia and its policies and practices. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:22, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:::sorry BurningB (talk) 11:28, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:It doesn't even slightly offend me. (I don't understand why it might do so.) -- Hoary (talk) 09:56, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:No. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:21, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:Welcome to the Teahouse, {{u|StopLookingAtMe1}}. I don't think it's offensive, no. Cordless Larry (talk) 12:32, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

==Is it too destructive??? One editor gives me a notice==

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Coolie_(2025_film)&diff=prev&oldid=1297442878 -- BurningB (talk) 09:25, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:The place to discuss this is Talk:Coolie (2025 film). -- Hoary (talk) 09:57, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

I just updated an article named ''Kingdom of Northern Lusitania" and i wanted to know if i did a good job. This is my first and i want join the community and i want to learn from others and improve on my mistakes. I am sorry if i waste your time with more important madders but it would mean a lot. Historyguy4111 (talk) 09:27, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:Historyguy4111, which part of this article is derived from which of the (very vaguely described) sources listed at its foot? Please use references to indicate this. -- Hoary (talk) 10:06, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:WP:Referencing for beginners may help. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:20, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

{{courtesy link|Draft:Matthew Tree Project }}

Hello, I am seeking help and guidance with the draft article The Matthew Tree Project, which was recently declined. The article was carefully written to comply with Wikipedia’s tone, neutrality, and notability guidelines. I removed all citations that did not offer in-depth coverage of the subject and focused only on reliable, independent, secondary sources. I also ensured the tone was factual and not promotional. Despite this, the draft was rejected again with a standard comment stating that the sources “do not show the subject qualifies” and that it “reads more like an advertisement,” which I respectfully do not believe reflects the latest revision. I would appreciate the input of more experienced editors to: Review whether the current sources do, in fact, support notability Suggest improvements I may not be seeing Advise whether this article has a realistic path toward approval Any advice or assistance would be very much appreciated. Thank you. Mark180378 (talk) 09:40, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @Mark180378, and welcome to the Teahouse. The draft reads like what the Charity wants people to know about itself.

:{{HD/WINI}}

:I haven't looked at all your sources, but the ones I have looked at are either not independent of the Project (interviews etc), or do not contain significant coverage of them. (The Mayor of London source doesn't seem even to mention the project).

:You need to evaluate all your sources against WP:42, make sure that you have several which do meet all the criteria there, and then make sure that your draft says only what those sources say.

:One of the things that makes writing with a COI difficult (thank you for disclosing your COI!) is that what you know about the subject is irrelevant, except where it is verified by a reliable and in most cases independent, published source. ColinFine (talk) 10:11, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::Hi ColinFine, thank you for your time you have spent reviewing this and for positing this helpful comment. Your reference to the London Assembly report sums up the challenge in writing the article as per the guidelines, in this case it seems the guideline to only use in-depth citations is at odds with referencing points of interest, i.e. in The Guardian editorial (link provided in article) Patrick Butler states "The MTP's work was cited as "possible model for the capital" in a recent London assembly investigation into food poverty. Labour member Fiona Twycross, who led the investigation, said she was struck by its long-term approach to finding a route out of poverty for clients. "Food banks are not things we should expect in our society. But I liked the Matthew Tree ethos. It was substantially less disempowering than others we saw." This statement from the Mayor of London has a prominent place in the final report and therefore is considered of notable value given the significance of the statement. It is very hard for a Wikipedia novice, like myself, to know how to write about, and link to, notable external information such as this within the guidelines, which is why I am asking for some experienced, independent assistance. Mark180378 (talk) 10:48, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Mark180378, you write about "the guideline to only use in-depth citations". There is no such guideline. Yes, you need to cite sources that deal with the subject in depth and are independent of it. But this doesn't exhaust the possibilities. You can additionally make a very limited use of sources that aren't independent of the subject (simply, in order to back up what can't be described as achievements); and, as long as they are reliable and independent of the subject you can additionally make considerable use of sources that don't go into depth about the subject. -- Hoary (talk) 11:37, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:::PS "WP:42" isn't a list of what's acceptable as source material for an article. It's instead a list of what's acceptable as material "To establish notabiity [sic]". Once notabi(l)ity is established, you may not add shovelfuls of stuff gleaned from corporate brochures, interview transcripts, PR puffs and the like. (Indeed, you'd be wise to add none.) You may, however, add material backed up by rather fleeting descriptions within articles that are mostly about other matters, if these articles are from reliable sources. -- Hoary (talk) 11:52, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

is anyone able to edit an article and translate it and publish the translation 213.204.67.101 (talk) 09:44, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:Edit an article where? Translate it and publish it where? -- Hoary (talk) 09:59, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Hey. I am now again getting problems in showing the area of Faculty of Law, University of Delhi. I am not able to figure out the problem. Is there a place where I can read of common problems since I get issues in displaying map a lot. KhubsuratInsaan (talk) 09:56, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:You're using mapframe, so Help:Mapframe. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:40, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thanks for the article. I can see I have already read it, but unfortunately I am not able to find the problem in this particular case. KhubsuratInsaan (talk) 11:37, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Try asking on its talk page, or at WP:VPT (but not both!), for more specialised help. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:56, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

I created a page for the television and magazine star Siobhan Wykes, who is very popular at the moment with her work at Best and on Vanessa.

The page can be found here. Draft:Siobhan Wykes

Basically, the person who seems to work for Wikipedia said this, followed by a couple of passive-aggressive remarks. "This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). "

I've cited several references that were not created by the subject, such as the Hearst page which outlines her work and also Vanessa's YouTube page.

I've kept the article relevant, factual and backed it up with reliable sources e.g. not just hear say on gossip forums. The subject has a notable online profile and career both in front and behind the camera/microphone in broadcasting.

Has anyone else had such difficulty in getting their pages approved? At-least I tried! Thanks all. Mort22 (talk) 11:30, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{u|Mort22}} Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Writing a new article is the most difficult task to attempt on Wikipedia, and we usually advise that new users first gain experience and knowledge by editing existing articles, and using the new user tutorial first, before attempting it.

:YouTube is not an acceptable source as it is user-generated, unless the video is from a reputable news outlet on their verified channel.

:The other source is a very brief biography by her employer, which is not an independent source. A Wikipedia article must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the person, showing how they are a notable person. 331dot (talk) 11:36, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{tq|I've cited several references that were not created by the subject, such as the Hearst page which outlines her work and also Vanessa's YouTube page.}} Neither Hearst nor Vanessa are independent of Wykes, as they both employ her. See WP:INDEPENDENT for more information about what an independent source is and why we require them.

:Creating new articles, especially about living people, is one of the most difficult things for new users to learn on Wikipedia. It might be helpful to gain more experience editing before trying to create an article. Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 11:39, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{Tq|1="the person who seems to work for Wikipedia"}} They are here as a volunteer, as are we all. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:55, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:And those "passive aggressive remarks" are standard templates – around 100,000 different people edit on Wikipedia every month, making many millions of edits between them – replies to standard problems have to be standardised "boilerplate", or the workload of the 'regular' editors (all volunteers) would be impossible. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195) 94.6.41.216 (talk) 17:04, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:It would be useful to read Wikipedia:Referencing for Beginners, so as to include usefully formatted references rather than bare links which really aren't much help to anyone. -- D'n'B-📞 -- 19:40, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Hey, if a friend takes a photo and gives it to me, can I upload it to Commons? But how do you credit them when he is not on Wikipedia? And how do I explain that he gave me permission?BurningB (talk) 11:33, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Questions about Commons should be asked on Commons- but I can say it is much, much easier for the photographer to upload a picture they took themselves, rather than someone else doing so. If you didn't take the photo, then you will need to provide a clear disclosure from the photographer that they are releasing their photo under a license compatible with Commons'- allowing for reuse by anyone for any purpose with attribution. The editors on Commons may be able to give you better guidance. 331dot (talk) 11:38, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you 331dot.

::Is there a tea house on commons?? BurningB (talk) 11:40, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::::c:Commons:Help desk. 331dot (talk) 11:52, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:::You probably don't need a help desk. Most likely all you need to do is to look through the FAQ and digest the bits that seem relevant. Concretely: Look in :c:Commons:FAQ for its answer to the frequently asked "I am not the author, but I have permission". -- Hoary (talk) 11:59, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:See :c:COM:THIRD. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:52, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you, Andy Mabett, Hoary, and 331dot BurningB (talk) 13:57, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi to the admins and community,

I think it would be helpful to voters and activists, and consistent with Wikipedia's mission to add a congressional district map page. The idea being that a reader could search by their zip code or click on their state and subsequently their district. The current pages for congressional districts are heavily (admirably) info laden. I think it would be helpful for the proposed map to bring the reader to a concise page that lists the current representatives, candidates in upcoming elections and their key positions, votes needed to flip the seat, and Dem/Rep vote breakdown in last election.

Thank you for your consideration! 2601:201:8E84:9640:CDCD:A59A:B47B:F2F2 (talk) 19:04, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:Are you familiar with [https://ballotpedia.org/Main_Page Ballotpedia]? _signed, Rosguill ^talk 19:21, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

The page :Category:Wikipedia conflict of interest edit requests has dozens of requests for pages and contain nothing but a corporate logo, the stock price, and a list of other companies they have swallowed up (merged with). Many of the requests have extensive comments from editors, but nobody has referred them for deletion as not notable under WP:COMPANY#Primary criteria. Am I missing something?

It says: A company, corporation, organization, group, product, or service is presumed notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject ... If the individual organization has received no or very little notice from independent sources, then it is not notable ... Julian in LA (talk) 19:40, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:@Julian in LA: I guess very few people want to do the work outlined in WP:BEFORE that is needed to establish whether the article should be deleted. Per WP:NEXIST, notability is based on the existence of suitable sources, regardless of whether they are currently in the article. You are welcome to send them to WP:Articles for deletion if you are unable to find sources to add to the articles, but keep in mind that lots of good sources are hard to find. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 19:52, 26 June 2025 (UTC)