Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abdul Hannan (singer) (2nd nomination)

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This appears to be a WP:UPE. I [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Abdul_Hannan_(singer)&diff=prev&oldid=1243973044 draftified] it last week, but the same editor re-created it at Draft:Abdul Hannan (Pakistani singer) which I also draftified and despite my request for them to submit draft for review. New users should ideally follow the WP:AFC procedure if they believe the BLP meets WP:N, but this wasn't done.

The draft has now been reverted to the main namespace. After reviewing this BLP, I don't think it meets the criteria for either WP:NSINGER or GNG. The creator of the BLP is actively participating in AFD discussions, even though they are relatively new to WP which suggests they are WP:BE. And I wouldn't be surprised if some IPs vote to keep this BLP in an effort to influence the outcome.

Additionally, the creator of this BLP brought their own creation to AFD to ensure it was rescued through the AfD process and the BLP remains - a practice commonly used by UPEs and socks. Also, Alon9393 , the creator had previously been warned by {{u|Davey2010}} not to canvass editors in AFDs, but it appears Alon9393 have no [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ADclemens1971&diff=1245736361&oldid=1245722793 intention of stopping]. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 19:08, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 19:08, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:43, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

:*Comment I added {{tl|undisclosed paid}}, largely to see how Alon9393 reacts to it (do {{they|Alon9393}} continue to show signs of being a UPE?)I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 21:01, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

::*Comment, I dream of horses, Saqib I declared myself unable to respond to these accusations. I am not a paying user. I voluntarily collaborated here. If you see me editing the article, it is because I want it to maintain the required relevance and notoriety and comply with the standards of musical notability. I have also collaborated on various articles such as Richard Jones (British diplomat), Hannah Bat Shahar, Cyprus–Saudi Arabia relations, Juancho De la Espriella, Ercan Aydogmus, Tiger Tyson. All those articles with serious deficiencies and lacks of notable sources. Now the point is about Abdul Hannan's article, I absolutely leave this to the community so as not to misinterpret or, as they say, have influence in this vote, in this debate consensus. Thank you Alon9393 (talk) 21:17, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nomination. Rolling Stone India is a brief mention and most of Pakistani sources briefly mention him or are tabloid-style stories without any proper byline. WP:SIGCOV requires high quality references with proper bylines. His songs has been included on Spotify charts but they doesn't meet WP:GOODCHARTS criteria. An enforced AFC review is another option as this is likely edited for payment. 202.47.50.250 (talk) 04:21, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
• Delete. After reviewing all the sources, it's clear they do not support notability under either WP:GNG or WP:NMUSIC. The WP:SIGCOV of the subject is in unreliable sources (non-bylined articles in sources considered dodgy per WP:RSN), and what coverage the subject has had in reliable sources is not WP:SIGCOV. (FWIW, I moved this page back to mainspace per creator request under WP:DRAFTOBJECT and not because I thought it was a notable topic.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:30, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
• Comment: The creator of this BLP {{u| Alon9393}} is now blocked and wanted the [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Abdul_Hannan_%28singer%29&diff=1245886554&oldid=1245748430 BLP deleted] as well. However, I believe the AFD process should be allowed to run it course. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 19:52, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
• Delete per nom fails WP:GNG and WP:NMUSIC.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 00:24, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

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