Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Albania–Tonga relations

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No evidence of any notability for these barely existing relations. Fram (talk) 10:47, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bilateral relations, Albania, and Oceania. Fram (talk) 10:47, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
• :*Delete Agree that these pages seem to be generic listings that simply state relations exist and there is no individual notability to each. Would be better kept under an list page of "Albania diplomatic relations" or similar. Will also note these would be a good candidate for WP:MULTIAFD given their similarity/desire to avoid causing a backlog on AfD.
• :Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 11:39, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
• ::@Anonrfjwhuikdzz You that agree to delete this article, why don't you improve the article yourself so the article could be kept and inform the English Wiki visitors regarding the relations of these 2 countries? Instead of moving this page to Foreign relations of Albania, I think is better to have a separate article. Thanks GeniVekaGV (talk) 13:19, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect to Foreign relations of Albania. There are references but this and the other articles are currently too short to stand on their own. Can always recreate them later when more information comes to light. Andykatib 20:12, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
• :@Andykatib Why to delete the articles instead of keeping them? You may keep them and later, when more information can be added regarding new relations between these countries, it is reflected on the article. There are also short articles on English Wiki. Please keep these articles. Thanks GeniVekaGV (talk) 02:20, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
• :Please don't suggest "merge" and claim "there are references" when they are this terrible.
• :*"Bilateral relations"[https://bilateralnavigator.com/Albania-Tonga] is a bot-generated commercial webscraper which doesn't even support the one thing it supposedly references
• :*"Imuna"[https://imuna.org/resources/country-profiles/tonga/] doesn't even mention Albania
• :*Which leaves us with [https://oec.world/en/profile/bilateral-country/alb/partner/ton this], which informs is that in 2009, Albania exported a value of $88 in pasta to Tonga. Not 88 million, not 88 thousand, $88. Fram (talk) 07:53, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
• ::@Andykatib @Fram I have corrected the political relations for Tonga too. Thanks GeniVekaGV (talk) 20:08, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
• :::{{Ping|GeniVekaGV}}, that source you cited would be acceptable since it mentions both Albania and Tonga, and supports what you are saying. However, the references need to be formatted properly. Andykatib (talk) 20:51, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
• ::::@Andykatib @Fram Now that the articles were improved can you remove the deletion template and keep them please? Thanks GeniVekaGV (talk) 06:30, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
• :::::The articles haven't been improved though. Albania and Tonga both being at the same event[https://www.saeima.lv/en/news/saeima-news/34012-speaker-of-the-saeima-daiga-mierina-welcomes-the-speakers-of-the-parliaments-of-albania-croatia-cyprus-portugal-and-tonga-emphasising-support-for-ukraine] gives them both some (minor) relation to Latvia, not to each other. Fram (talk) 07:49, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
• ::::::Have to agree @Fram. I tidied up the references in those four articles but most of them don't really talk about Albania and those countries. Have incorporated a couple of references into Foreign relations of Albania but it seems that GeniVeka is unable to see thing from our perspective. Hopefully we can reach an understanding with him or her. Andykatib (talk) 09:22, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
• Delete no meaningful relations, the relations is almost exclusively in a multilateral context. No significant trade ($88 is a joke), state visits or embassies. LibStar (talk) 06:43, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
• Redirect to Foreign relations of Albania. There are (nominal) diplomatic relations, but what we have is basically one word in one announcement, which is already covered in Foreign relations of Albania. MarioGom (talk) 22:50, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:NOPAGE. Geschichte (talk) 10:47, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

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