Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beatrix Holéczy

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Biathlete who placed lowly in two Olympic Games. [https://www.biathlonworld.com/de/athlete/holeczy-beatrix/BTHUN21905197201?tab=results No World Cup results] of note either; 49th and 68th places tend not to get coverage. I did not find any coverage when searchnig either, apart from passing mentions (and I did search in the Hungarian name order. Therefore fails WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 21:01, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Women, Olympics, and Hungary. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 02:05, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
• Paywalled newspaper archive [https://adt.arcanum.com/en/search/results/?list=eyJxdWVyeSI6ICJcIkhvbFx1MDBlOWN6eSBCZWF0cml4XCIifQ&per_page=20 Arcanum] brings up ~300 matches for this person's name. {{ping|Nenea hartia}} Can you verify if any of the coverage is significant? Thanks, BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:42, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|BeanieFan11}} As you already mentioned, there are many references to her, most of them about the competitions she participated in. However, I also found some slightly more detailed articles, one of them in the "Yearbook of the Hungarian Olympic Academy 2016". Please see [https://filebin.net/3mperwiimmgu36il here]. --Nenea hartia (talk) 19:07, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

:: {{ping|Nenea hartia}} Thanks. Do you know if the "Yearbook of the Hungarian Olympic Academy" is independent of Holéczy? BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:07, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

:::{{ping|BeanieFan11}} Yes, it is an official annual publication of the Hungarian Olympic Committee. It is a very comprehensive work, with many pages (Holéczy is mentioned on page 214), and in the same link above I added the first pages, which include the editorial board and the publishing house. --Nenea hartia (talk) 20:27, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

::::If it has been published by the Olympic Committee it is primary, if it has been published by an unrelated publishing house it is secondary. More importantly: is it significant or a passing mention? (Same with the 300 hits. Many of them would be mentions) Geschichte (talk) 08:32, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

::::: I'd say it is significant coverage (~175 words focusing on Holeczy) – as for the publisher, looking at the first page and using Google Translate I get:

Edited and proofread by Dr. Pál Hencsei and Vilmos Horváth

Photos: Hungarian Olympic Committee

Hungarian Olympic Academy

Hungarian Olympic and Sports Museum

Judit Bódayné Blaha, József Erdélyi

István Fucskó, JochaPress, Tamás Róth

Domonkos Vígh and the authors

ISSN 0238-0412

Publisher: Hungarian Olympic Committee

Responsible for the publication: Zsolt Borkai, MOB president

Printing house: Pátria Nyomda Zrt., responsible manager: Katalin Orgován

Printing preparation: János Kerényi

::::: {{ping|Nenea hartia}} It looks like it was published by the Olympic committee? Or is this a mistranslation? BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:42, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

{{outdent}} {{ping|BeanieFan11}}: Unfortunately I don't speak Hungarian and I am not familiar with sports organizations in Hungary, but as far as I can tell, yes, it was published by the Hungarian Olympic Committee. Also, [https://olimpia.hu/mob/magyar-olimpiai-akademia the Hungarian Olympic Academy] (Magyar Olimpiai Akadémia) seems to be a structure within the Hungarian Olympic Committee (Magyar Olimpiai Bizottság = MOB). --Nenea hartia (talk) 18:50, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

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