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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Boston Collaborative Encyclopedia of Western Theology

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. There is continuing opposition to merging this material, but a clear consensus that this is not an appropriate article subject. Seraphimblade Talk to me 06:34, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

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There are no secondary sources that meaningfully discuss this website. This article has lacked sources for over a decade. The edit that reverted the proposed deletion contained an {{Diff2|1170508493|admission}} that the reverter was not aware of any relevant secondary sources. The fact that a source is cited does not make it notable. The only potential target for a redirect does not mention this article's subject, so a redirect is unwarrented. ―Susmuffin Talk 17:04, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

:Oppose: I agree that secondary sources about the actual encyclopedia are not easily found (I have not encountered any). But secondary sources citing articles within the encyclopedia are easily found (any search on Google Books demonstrates this). Besides, the notability criteria for this should for WP:NB (which is "instructive by analogy"), and is therefore deemed a reliable source as a widely cited academic work. —Caorongjin 💬 18:33, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

  • Delete: The proper answer to a lack of secondary sources isn't to come up with some other justification. It's that an article on this subject cannot be sustained, and I'm somewhat startled at hearing the article creator admit that there never were any valid secondary sources. A citation to an article within this encyclopedia is a WP:NOTINHERITED issue. Ravenswing 06:20, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
  • :And as that section reads: "four of the notability guidelines, for creative professions, books, films and music, do allow for inherited notability in certain circumstances". What I am suggesting is inherited notability as a book, that is highly cited, per WP:TEXTBOOK (as suggested below by @A. B.. —Caorongjin 💬 16:27, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
  • Question: might this book qualify under WP:TEXTBOOK?

:—A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 13:07, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

  • Delete: Couldn't find any mentions in RSes and doesn't meet any of the criteria at WP:NBOOK. It also doesn't appear to meet WP:TEXTBOOKS as it hasn't been published by a university press or gone through the associated peer review, I haven't seen any evidence that the website is widely cited in academia or the media, there are no sources to establish how influential it has been, and it has not been the subject of study in any educational institutions. Shapeyness (talk) 13:37, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
  • Merge to Modern Theology (journal), which is the primary source of writers for this work. Not notable, but quite possibly noteworthy. BD2412 T 04:00, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
  • :It seems like that link was made in error, as I could not find any evidence of a relationship between the project and the journal. ―Susmuffin Talk 03:42, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
  • Merge to Wesley J. Wildman, rather Wesley Wildman. Oppose merge to Modern Theology (journal), which I don't think is actually connected, rather a set of seminars at Boston University of a similar name is connected to the journal. I've deleted the wikilink to Modern Theology (journal) from the article. --Jahaza (talk) 21:07, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

::corrected as per Liz's note that Wesley J. Wildman is a redirect.--Jahaza (talk) 19:45, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

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{{resize|91%|Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}
Relisting comment: No consensus and two different Merge targets suggested (although Wesley J. Wildman isn't a viable one because it is a redirect)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 19:16, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

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{{resize|91%|Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}
Relisting comment: Relisting to see whether there is support for a Merge or Redirect to Wesley Wildman as there is opposition to a Merge to Modern Theology.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:17, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

:Delete - per Ravenswing. A lack of secondary sources is and should always be a hard stop. - car chasm (talk) 07:19, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

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:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.