Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eric Kessler

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Of the five sources cited, only one is actually about Kessler, and it's an interview. A Google News search yielded some obituaries about other people with the same name, and [https://www.philanthropy.com/article/arabella-founder-eric-kessler-under-fire-as-dark-money-master-talks-about-the-line-between-philanthropy-and-politics this article], but that's all. This could be merged into Arabella Advisors but there's really nothing of value to merge. A redirect could work too. ~Anachronist (talk) 19:22, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

• Speedy Delete Per shit sources and the WP:TEA request. Babysharkboss2!! ^{(No Life 'Til Leather)} 19:32, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
• :{{ping|Babysharkboss2}} What criterion for speedy deletion do you think this meets? jlwoodwa (talk) 19:43, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
• Delete. Like nom, I come by way of the request at the Teahouse from someone claiming to be Kessler (I know this doesn't affect the discussion; just saying for transparency). And like nom, I have done my own search and failed to find WP:SIGCOV in RS. Because I can't decide which would be the better redirect target—Arabella Advisors or the Hopewell Fund that it manages—I am !voting for straightforward deletion. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 19:44, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople, Politics, and Washington, D.C.. Skynxnex (talk) 20:38, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
• Weak delete there's almost enough sourcing for article. Probably not right now and I weigh good faith requests for deletion in cases like this fairly highly. I would oppose a redirect since there are other Eric Kesslers mentioned in various articles as they're all dab mentions, a dab page would be questionable as well, for now. Skynxnex (talk) 20:43, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
• Strong Keep I found 25 good sources (at Talk:Eric Kessler), more than enough to expand the article. (P.S. subject is User:EJKessler) 69.181.17.113 (talk) 18:27, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
• :Mr. Kessler himself said on WP:TEAHOUSE that many of those sources aren't even about him. There are a lot of Eric Kesslers, some of them are dead, and some are evidently family members. I said basically the same thing in my deletion nomination. You can find a lot of sources, but which ones are actually significant coverage about this Eric Kessler? You have failed to identify any. And many of those in your list are merely trivial mentions. ~Anachronist (talk) 20:23, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
• :[https://hplibrary.org/hpnews-MCMLXXXIX "Teen, Eric Kessler, takes on grant in try to save whales]. Mar. 23, 1989, p. 16. Highland Park News'', Highland Park, Illinois 69.181.17.113 (talk) 18:58, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
• ::You have got to be kidding. That isn't even a source, that's a directory listing, and may not even be about him. You're grasping at straws. ~Anachronist (talk) 20:40, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
• :::from the card catalog of Highland Park Public Library 494 Laurel Avenue Highland Park, IL 60035 69.181.17.113 (talk) 01:50, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
• ::::"Kessler himself said on WP:TEAHOUSE that many of those sources aren't even about him"
• ::::::I checked them all, look for yourself, they are all related to him
• ::::69.181.17.113 (talk) 01:55, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
• :::::50 articles from WP:RS about source of family wealth, his activism in high school and college, his D.C. public life, his D.C. restaurants, his charity activities in Boulder, D.C., and Highland Park. ... 69.181.17.113 (talk) 02:17, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
• ::::::You listed trivial mentions as well as directory listings, you failed to verify they're the same person. So no, you didn't check them, you just provided a dump from a search. ~Anachronist (talk) 04:05, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
• Delete and optionally merge to Arabella article, all sources talk about him exclusively as its founder. He probably merits a sentence or two in there somewhere, but not his own article unless far more significant coverage about this Eric Kessler is found. (I likewise came here from the Teahouse discussion). Rusalkii (talk) 19:54, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect to Arabella Advisors, which appears to comprise the vast bulk of Kessler's notability in the past 20 years. Per WP:ATD, a redirect is more appropriate than outright deletion. --Animalparty! (talk) 22:30, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
• Delete or Redirect to Arabella Advisors – The subject does not have enough news coverage.Mysecretgarden (talk) 23:09, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect to Arabella Advisors. A sentence or two about him in Arabella Advisors would probably help contextualize his part, but there's not much "here" here for an article about him.

:CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 01:42, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

:Delete Delete or Redirect: I went through and checked every source added to the talk page: a total of two of them were significant mentions that were clearly about him. A [https://capitalresearch.org/article/excavating-arabellas-origin-part-3/ Capitol Research center article] and [https://worth.com/contributor/be-the-change/ Worth magazine interview]. The first is questionable as a source given it invites Heritage Foundation people to talk on things. The second is good, but is already used in the article. There appears to be, after a lot of searching by the person who added those articles to the talk page, one source that covers Kessler reliably, so there isn't a basis for an article. Mrfoogles (talk) 08:25, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

::Plus, he asked Wikipedia to delete it. Any reasonable Keep vote here will have to name secondary and reliable sources clearly about him that give significant coverage. I also think coverage of environmentalism in high school in 1989 (several sources listed on the talk page), whether it is about him or not, can be excluded from consideration. Mrfoogles (talk) 08:28, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

:::Outright deletion is absolutely not called for. I agree Kessler doesn't warrant a stand-alone article, but even if most of his notability stems from Arabella, he is by no means a low-profile individual or non-public figure. Inside Philanthropy named him one of the [https://www.insidephilanthropy.com/home/2021-7-21-the-inside-philanthropy-power-list 100 Most Powerful Players in Philanthropy] in 2021. He's written [https://www.huffpost.com/author/eric-kessler several articles for HuffPost], and here he is [https://www.politico.com/news/agenda/2020/05/13/how-to-crisis-proof-our-food-system-254798 writing in Politico]). Here is is interviewed on [https://www.npr.org/2005/11/25/5027695/prudent-philanthropy NPR in 2005]. He is an integral aspect of Arabella and various subsidiaries he founded and/or chaired (e.g. Hopewell Fund, Sixteen Thirty Fund, New Venture Fund) such that his name is a very plausible search term and wikilink target. Tablet Magazine gives significant background detail on Kessler in [https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/for-profit-dc-firm-staging-americas-grassroots-movements-arabella-advisors a 2022 article], as does, to a lesser extent, [https://www.insidephilanthropy.com/home/2019-1-14-big-builds-a-look-inside-arabella-advisors Inside Philanthropy in 2019]. A redirect with a few sentences on Kessler's background and role in Arabella make sense. --Animalparty! (talk) 20:42, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

::::Oh, I wasn't trying to say I opposed a redirect -- redirecting or merging works just as well for me. I think the Tablet Magazine article and the Worth Magazine article make 1.5-2 good sources, total. I don't understand what you mean by adding a few sentences to the redirect, though -- do you mean in the target article? Mrfoogles (talk) 22:00, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

• Redirect as a cheap alternative to deleting, or a very selective merge. Bearian (talk) 02:50, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

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