Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Forward in Faith North America

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Contested PROD. The article reads as a WP:PROMO of a religious organization. Any relevant information is already on the Forward in Faith article, although the relationship between the two is unclear to me. No reliable sources are provided on the page, and no assertion of notability has been made. Does not appear to meet the WP:GNG. FuriouslySerene (talk) 13:57, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

• Delete and redirect to main Forward in Faith article, these two appear to be synonymous or at least closely related. - SanAnMan (talk) 14:47, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
• Delete. Spam.TheLongTone (talk) 14:53, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
• Delete. Not notable. VanEman (talk) 16:37, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
• Delete per failure of WP:GNG and WP:ORG (as I could find no evidence of independent, third-party notability outside of that which is already dealt with under Forward in Faith), and for flagrant violation of WP:COI, WP:NPOV, WP:NOTADVERTISING, and WP:ADMASK. As SanAnMan stated above, a redirect to said less-POV article makes sense. Colonel Wilhelm Klink (^Complaints|_Mistakes) 21:22, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
• Keep - Sources available in [https://www.highbeam.com/Search?searchTerm=%22Forward+in+Faith+North+America%22 HignBeam search] to improve article. Otherwise merge or redirect to Forward in Faith. Redirects are cheap and deleting this article would unnecessarily create redlinks. ~Kvng (talk) 20:17, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

::From what I can tell, only two or three of those articles have any information at all about Forward in Faith in North America. They seem to both consist of a single sentence. Not sure that's substantial coverage. The redlinks you fear are two or three mainspace articles that have a "See also" at the end of the page. I don't see any article that actually uses this organization in the body of the article, so I do not see this as a required redirect. There anyways already is a Forward in Faith article. FuriouslySerene (talk) 13:27, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

:::Apparently we're not looking at the same [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatLinksHere&target=Forward+in+Faith+North+America&namespace=0 What links here] report. The more disruptive (potential) redlinks are in the biographies of people involved with the organization. ~Kvng (talk) 21:47, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:03, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:03, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

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• Comment. The promotional nature of the article content comes from it being a copy of the organization's [http://www.fifna.org/about-us/our-mission/ mission statement]. Use of the first person is a dead giveaway. • Gene93k (talk) 00:06, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
• Delete and redirect to Forward in Faith, while salvaging any usable content. The current page is a copyvio and improperly referenced, and I can't find (m)any reliable sources of which the North American branch is the primary topic (see description on WP:GNG for significance). Ajraddatz (talk) 00:10, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
• Delete and then Redirect as I also notice this seems closely linked to the other article, currently questionable for its own. SwisterTwister talk 06:45, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

::You mean Redirect: deletion does not leave a redirect. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:36, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

:::*Deleting the article and creating a redirect in its place make a valid option when the search term is plausible but the content should be nuked. The current article is copyvio and spam. A deletion or a revdel makes sense. • Gene93k (talk) 22:52, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

::::*Absolutely correct. I've changed mine accordingly. Ajraddatz (talk) 22:57, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

• Keep -- This is one of a number of movements within the American Episcopal Church seeking to oppose liberal tendencies, which are opposed by certain other churches within the Anglican Communion. AS such it is an emerging denomination. Forward in Faith appears essentially to be a party within the English Anglican Church, so that a redirect or merger is in appropriate. I would however be happier if some of the presidents listed here had linked articles. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:36, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
• Speedy delete and redirect to Forward in Faith. Copyright violation. Regards, James (^talk/_contribs) 17:56, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
• Merge or redirect per WP:CHEAP, as suggested. FWIW, I used to subscribe to FIF. Bearian (talk) 19:41, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

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