Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Greeks in Poland

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The result was Keep. Fram (talk) 10:47, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

=[[Greeks in Poland]]=

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The article fails to establish WP:NOTABILITY PMK1 (talk) 02:49, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Comment; Cab your sources seem to be mainly refering to non-ethnic Greeks. Possibly you may consider creating Macedonians in Poland and leaving Greeks in Poland the way it is? PMK1 (talk) 02:55, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

::Well, for example, the Radio Free Europe source says they were about 5,000 Macedonians and 5,000 Greeks. Also there's a mention in {{citation|url=http://src-home.slav.hokudai.ac.jp/publictn/acta/16/alfred/alfred.html|title=Minority Rights Abuse in Communist Poland and Inherited Issues|first=Alfred F.|last=Majewicz|first2=Tomasz|last2=Wicherkiewicz|year=1998|volume=16|journal=Acta Slavica Iaponica}}, "it can be noted here that Polish administration supported the Greek refugees in Poland in forcible Hellenization of personal names of Aegean Macedonians, representatives of whom came to Poland together with the Greeks", which seems like an issue worth looking into further. cab (talk) 03:00, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

::::Comment; fair enough. There is a section here which discusses the Aegean Macedonian refugees from Greece into Poland after the Civil War. There are many sources about it but at the moment I dont think that it warrants a seperate article. PMK1 (talk) 05:54, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Keep the article quite clearly establishes notability with multiple non-trivial, reliable sources cited in the References section (especially the Fleming paper) or the Further reading section (a variety of papers in Polish). The refugees weren't just composed of ethnic Macedonians but of ethnic Greeks as well, apparently about 50-50. cab (talk) 03:00, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. cab (talk) 03:00, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Greece-related deletion discussions. cab (talk) 03:00, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ethnic groups-related deletion discussions. cab (talk) 03:00, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

:Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –Juliancolton | ^Talk 00:25, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

DeleteWikipedia is not a directory listing articles with every bilateral combination of persons from country X who live in country Y. A few incidentals in newspapers does not establish that such article are encyclopedic, and the references do not satisfy WP:N. Edison (talk) 03:05, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
The sources covering this topic are hardly "a few incidentals in newspapers"; this article cites seven papers published in academic journals. It seems to me you have simply copy-pasted your above comment onto a bunch of related AfDs without bothering to look closely at the articles in question. cab (talk) 03:09, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Closing administrator please note that Edison has copy and pasted this argument in 4 AfDs.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Greeks_in_Cuba&diff=prev&oldid=287771657][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Greeks_in_Kyrgyzstan&diff=prev&oldid=287771542][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Greeks_in_Ireland&diff=prev&oldid=287771399][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Greeks_in_Poland&diff=prev&oldid=287771348] As I have copy and pasted this notice also. Ikip (talk) 02:29, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Keep the article establishes notability with multiple non-trivial, reliable sources cited in the References section (Fleming paper). The refugees weren't just composed of ethnic Macedonians but of ethnic Greeks as well (possible 50-50)--Alexikoua (talk) 09:04, 4 May 2009 (UTC).
Keep. There is a content of clear historical interest and a comprehensive encyclopedic topic in this article.--Yannismarou (talk) 10:35, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Keep. Better-than-average article on a clearly notable topic. This is not just "any random bilateral combination of persons from country X who live in county Y", it's a very special historical background with significant interesting historical details. Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:41, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Keep. Logical part of "Greek Diaspora" & article might be expanded with sources for why so few (<3000?) Greecian-born live in Poland. -Wikid77 (talk) 20:44, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Keep notable as per above, well referenced. Ikip (talk) 02:32, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Keep. It's notable per above and has is well sourced. Kyriakos (talk) 06:12, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

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