Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jebamani Janata Party

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was soft delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?action=edit&preload=Wikipedia%3AXFDcloser%2FSoft_deletion_refund_preload&preloadparams%5b%5d={{urlencode:Jebamani Janata Party}}&preloadparams%5b%5d={{urlencode:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jebamani Janata Party}}&editintro=Wikipedia%3AXFDcloser%2FSoft_deletion_refund_intro&preloadtitle={{urlencode:Jebamani Janata Party}}§ion=new&title=Wikipedia%3ARequests_for_undeletion&create=Request request the article's undeletion].

I'll just note that it is not unheard of for an article to change its focus over the course of an AFD discussion. For example, we've had articles about a book change into an article about the author of the book. Liz Read! Talk! 03:16, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

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Non notable political party. The leader of this party gained some notoriety for filing a false affidavit. Has never won an election (never even come close), is not a recognised party with a permanent symbol and therefore should not remain. Fails WP:GNG Jupitus Smart 02:51, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|Jupitus Smart}} Yeah, I guess you might be right... I'm not from India, so I'm not really familiar with India's political system, but I'm trying to do my best to figure things out. (e.g. I have now realized that I should probably link "unrecognized" to {{sectionlink|Politics of India|Registered Unrecognized Political Party (RUPP)}}) I have now done some mostly-thorough searching through various public and licensed resources that I have access to, and here are the statistics of what I found (though keep in mind that my criteria for what to list and what to merge vs keep separate have been a bit inconsistent):

:* 83 articles/books/documents total

:** 12 were about Nellai R. Jebamani in the Janata Party

:** 25 were just lists of election candidates or results or similar

:** 37 were just about Mohanraj, the party leader

:** 9 actually have information about the party beyond Mohanraj and election participation and performance:

:**# A Hindi?-English bilingual government document: {{cite periodical |lang=hi |periodical=भारत को राजपत्र |series=असाधारण : भाग II—खण्ड ३—उप-खण्ड (iii) |issue=61 |publication-place=नई दिल्ली |title=भारत निर्वाचन आयो, अधिसूचना, आ.अ. 82( अ ) |date=July 12, 2002 |quote=निर्वाचन प्रतीक ( आरक्षण और आबंटन ) आदेश, 1968 के पैरा 17 के उप पैरा ( 2 ) के अनुसरण में, भारत निर्वाचन आयोग समय-समय पर यथा संशोधित तारीख 10 जनवरी, 2002 की अपनी अधिसूचना संख्या 56/2002/न्यायिक-III, में एतद्वारा निम्नलिखित संशोधन और करता है अर्थात् :— [...] II. उक्त अधिसूचना से संलग्न सारणी III ( रजिस्ट्रीकृत अमान्यता प्राप्त दलों ) में— (1) क्रम सं. 584 पर विधमान प्रविष्टियों के पश्चात् निम्नलिखित प्रविष्टियों स्तम्भ 1, 2 और 3 के नीचे क्रमश: रखी जाएं :— [...] 592.; जेबामणि जनता; नं. 33, सैंकड़ स्ट्रीट, पूर्व अबिरामपुरम, माइलापोर, चेन्नई-600004 तमिलनाडु । |id=रजिस्ट्री सं० डी० एल०-33004/99 : सं. 56/2002( iv )/न्यायिक-III |first=ए. के. |last=मजूमदार}} = {{cite periodical |lang=en |periodical=The Gazette of India |series=EXTRAORDINARY : PART II—Section 3—Sub-section (iii) |issue=61 |publication-place=New Delhi |title=ELECTION COMMISSION OF INDIA, NOTIFICATION, O.N. 82(E) |date=July 12, 2002 |quote=In pursuance of sub-paragraph (2) of paragraph 17 of the Election Symbols (Reservation and Allotment) Order, 1968, the Election Commission ot India hereby makes the following further amendments to its Notification No. 56/2002/Jud-III, dated 10th January, 2002, as amended from time to time, namely :— [...] II. In Table III (Registered unrecognised parties), appended to the said Notification— (i) After the existing entries at serial number 584, the following entries shall be inserted under columns 1, 2 and 3 respectively column . [...] 592.; Jebamani Janata; No. 33, Second Street, East Abiramapuram, Mylapore, Chennai-600004. (Tamil Nadu). |id=REGD. NO. D. L -33004/99 : No. 56/2002(iv)/Jud. III |first=A. K |last=MAJUMDAR }} @ Internet Archive [https://archive.org/details/in.gazette.central.e.2002-07-12.114616 in.gazette.central.e.2002-07-12.114616], [https://archive.org/details/in.gazette.e.2002.241 in.gazette.e.2002.241].

:**# That announcement is repeated in the following English-language document: {{cite periodical |date=1 August 2002 |series=SERIES I |issue=18 |pages=375-376 |periodical=OFFICIAL GAZETTE, GOVERNMENT OF GOA |title=GOVERNMENT OF GOA, Department of Elections, Office of the Chief Electoral Officer; from ELECTION COMMISSION OF INDIA: Notification, No. 56/2002/Jud.III |editor-first=R. P. |editor-last=Pal |first=A. K. |last=MAJUMDAR |id=Reg. No. GR/RNP/GOA/32; RNI NO. GOAENG/2002/6410. Internet Archive [https://archive.org/details/in.goa.egaz.0203-18.SI in.goa.egaz.0203-18.SI]. }}

:**#* These indicate that the party's name in Devanagari script is "जेबामणि जनता". I didn't find anything obviously useful from a quick Google search, but I don't speak/read Hindi (I've been relying on Google Translate, OCR, and visual clues), and I'm not sure what search engines might work best for Indian webpages in Hindi.

:**#* [https://archive.org/search?query=%22Jebamani+Janata%22&sin=TXT Internet Archive has 107 results for "Jebamani Janata"]; I haven't bothered to go through all of them yet, just the couple of oldest ones, and then skimmed through and saw that they all looked kinda similar.

:**# {{cite book |title=Political Parties and Election Symbols |date=2004 |publication-place=New Delhi |publisher=Publication Division, Election Commission of India |page=47 |id=HathiTrust [https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015061276674&q1=%22Jebamani+Janata%22&start=1 mdp.39015061276674]. Google Books [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Political_Parties_and_Election_Symbols/vI-KAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0 vI-KAAAAMAAJ]. }}

:**#* I don't seem to have access to this, but I did find [https://web.archive.org/web/20120111174305/http://eci.nic.in/eci_main/ElectoralLaws/HandBooks/HANDBOOK%20OF%20SYMBOLS.pdf another version online], and on p. 24, 47 it says: "TABLE — III: REGISTERED UNRECOGNISED PARTIES [...] S.No.: 323.; Name of the Registered Unrecognised Political Party: Jebamani Janata; Headquarters Address: No. 33, Second Street, East Abiramapuram, Mylapore, Chennai-600004, (Tamil Nadu)"

:**# {{cite book |title=General Elections in India: Electoral Politics, Electoral Reforms, and Political Parties |first=M. L. |last=Ahuja |date=2005 |chapter=Appendices |page=429 |id=Google Books [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Political_Parties_and_Election_Symbols/vI-KAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22Jebamani+Janata%22&pg=PA47&printsec=frontcover vI-KAAAAMAAJ]. HathiTrust [https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=inu.30000101132953&q1=%22Jebamani+Janata%22&start=1 inu.30000101132953]. |quote=Abbreviation: JJ; Party: Jebamani Janata }}

:**# {{cite news |work=New Indian Express |date=11 May 2009 |title='Richest' in fray faked it |id=Factiva [https://global.factiva.com/du/article.aspx/?accessionno=NIEXPR0020090512e55b00053&drn=drn:archive.newsarticle.NIEXPR0020090512e55b00053 NIEXPR0020090512e55b00053] |quote=Mohanraj is the son of late freedom fighter and a close associate of late leader K Kamaraj, R Jebamani. Mohanraj is heading the Jebamani Janata, a registered, but non-recognised political party. }}

:**# {{cite news |work=Indian Express |date=6 October 2011 |department=national |title='Spare 3 on death row': officer who probed Rajiv case is no longer angry |first=Gopu |last=Mohan |id=Factiva [https://global.factiva.com/du/article.aspx/?accessionno=AIWINE0020111006e7a60000z&drn=drn:archive.newsarticle.AIWINE0020111006e7a60000z AIWINE0020111006e7a60000z]. {{Gale|A268839491}}. NewsBank [https://infoweb.newsbank.com/apps/news/openurl?ctx_ver=z39.88-2004&rft_id=info%3Asid/infoweb.newsbank.com&svc_dat=AWNB&req_dat=8C87EBB2DB104CEAB04405DA52DA75FE&rft_val_format=info%3Aofi/fmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Actx&rft_dat=document_id%3Anews%252F14960F1FB68CD030 8C87EBB2DB104CEAB04405DA52DA75FE / 2F14960F1FB68CD030]. Nexis Uni [https://advance.lexis.com/api/document?collection=news&id=urn%3acontentItem%3a53YK-7GF1-JB35-147X-00000-00 53YK-7GF1-JB35-147X-00000-00]. PressReader [https://pressreader.com/article/281805690679459 281805690679459]. {{ProQuest|896368566}}. |quote=He floated the Jebamani Janata Party, named after his father, and has contested 15 elections to Parliament, the Assembly and the local body. }}

:**# {{cite news |work=New Indian Express |date=25–26 February 2013 |title=Health plagues Gandhian fasting against booze |agency=Express News Servcie |url= |id=Factiva [https://global.factiva.com/du/article.aspx/?accessionno=NIEXPR0020130228e92p0008k&drn=drn:archive.newsarticle.NIEXPR0020130228e92p0008k NIEXPR0020130228e92p0008k]. {{Gale|A320322825}}. Nexis Uni [https://advance.lexis.com/api/document?collection=news&id=urn%3acontentItem%3a57V4-SJT1-F12F-F3FK-00000-00 57V4-SJT1-F12F-F3FK-00000-00]. {{ProQuest|1312350565}}. |quote=The health condition of the 57-year-old Gandhian from Salem, Sasi Perumal, who had been on fast for the past 27 days demanding total prohibition in the State, began deteriorating on Monday. [...] Social service organisations working towards prohibition in the State — [...] and Jebamani Janata Party — expressed their solidarity with the Gandhian. }}

:**# {{cite news |agency=Indo-Asian News Service (IANS) English |date=4 April 2019 |department=India |title=TN candidate declares Rs 1.76 lakh cr cash, Rs 4 lakh cr loan |id=Factiva [https://global.factiva.com/du/article.aspx/?accessionno=HNIANS0020190404ef44003ju&drn=drn:archive.newsarticle.HNIANS0020190404ef44003ju HNIANS0020190404ef44003ju]. {{Gale|A581195420}}. The Tribune (India) [https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/archive/nation/tamil-nadu-candidate-declares-rs-1-76-lakh-cr-cash-rs-4-lakh-cr-loan-753246/ 753246]. {{ProQuest|2202720901}}. |quote=Candidate for the by-election to the Perambur assembly seat in Tamil Nadu, J. Mohanraj of the Jebamani Janata party, has declared loan dues to the World Bank of Rs 4 lakh crore and cash in hand of Rs 1. 76 lakh crore. Interestingly, the Election Commission has accepted Mohanraj's affidavit and has allotted him the 'Green Chilli' symbol. [...] Sixty seven-year old, Mohanraj is the son of late Nellai R. Jebamani who was elected to the Tamil Nadu assembly from the Sattankulam constituency in 1977 as a Janata Party candidate. Mohanraj also said the upcoming one will be his 13th election contest, and that he has unsuccessfully contested the Lok Sabha and Tamil Nadu assembly elections earlier. }}

:**# {{cite news |work=The Week |date=April 4, 2019 |title=Tamil Nadu’s "richest" candidate dares EC to prove him wrong |first=Lakshmi |last=Subramanian |url=https://www.theweek.in/news/india/2019/04/04/Tamil-Nadu-richest-candidate-dares-EC-to-prove-him-wrong.html |quote=Meet Mohanraj Jebamani, a retired police inspector and son of former MLA and freedom fighter Jebamani. [...] Mohanraj's father Jebamani was an MLA from the Sathankulam constituency in 1976, the election held immediately after the emergency was lifted. His father Jebamani was one of the detainees under the MISA during the emergency and was part of Morarji Desai's Janata party then. "I got voluntary retirement from the police service, because of corruption." He has named his party as Jebamani Janata Party after his father. }}

:The sources about Nellai R. Jebamani are not directly relevant. The lists and election results are routine coverage, if that doctrine applies to this kind of article. The sources about Mohanraj clearly do not have significant coverage of the party if their only mention is something like '[...] Mohanraj of the Jebamani Janata Party [...]'. These last nine sources have some coverage of the party, but I'm not sure if it rises to the level of being Significant Coverage... #1-4 are still routine coverage, and #5-9 have only very small amounts of information about the party. However, there are still some unexplored avenues for finding sources: in particular, I have not exhausted the Google Search or Internet Archive results, and I have not really tried searching in Devanagari script, just Latin script...

:However, given how much I found about Mohanraj / Mohan Raj, do you think he might be notable enough? If so, I might try to pivot this article into an article about him. The sources I've found are mostly about various litigation he's filed, the false affidavits you mentioned, and a little bit of biographical information. The article I cited from The Week gives the impression of being a short biography of him.

:Solomon Ucko (talk) 17:56, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 02:41, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|Sollyucko}} If you feel Mohanraj is notable, create an article for him. After looking at the final output, we can decide if that article gets to stay. This is about the party and we cannot arbitrarily change the article from the party to the person. Best. Jupitus Smart 03:21, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

::{{ping|Jupitus Smart}} Got it, makes sense. I've now created the article "Jebamani Mohanraj".

::I think the only non-neglible content that's in "Jebamani Janata Party" but not "Jebamani Mohanraj" is the last two sentences: "In an election on 16 May 2016, he received 60 votes, compared to 91,303 votes for the winner, representing the party in the elections for the Kolathur Assembly constituency's seat in the Tamil Nadu Assembly.[citation to United News of India (UNI)] In February 2013, the party expressed solidarity with Sasi Perumal, a 57-year-old Gandhian from Salem, for fasting in support of prohibition.[citation to New Indian Express]"

::I'm not sure there's much point in keeping "Jebamani Janata Party" around just for that, so as long as "Jebamani Mohanraj" has a decent chance of staying, I no longer have any objections to deleting "Jebamani Janata Party".

::Solomon Ucko (talk) 22:19, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

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