Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Josh Axe

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This starts by telling us that "Joshua Lee Axe (born August 18 1981) is an American physician." His own website makes no such claim. He "also founded one of the most visited natural health website in the world at dr.axe.com [sic], which has over 15 million monthly visitors" -- a claim that's sourced to [can you guess?] draxe.com. This website isn't so notable that Wikipedia has any article about it.

Axe is a businessman in the "detoxing" and related industries. Dribs and drabs about him suggest that he's making a good living at this. But the sources don't seem to add up to notability. -- Hoary (talk) 13:41, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Health and fitness-related deletion discussions. Hoary (talk) 13:48, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Hoary (talk) 13:48, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

• Strong Keep I did not intent to praise Josh Axe nor to create a biased article. Also i can't call him in lines like: (Josh Axe is a pseudoscientific imbecile) Otherwise it will be a personal attack. I disagree. since it will be a clear violation of WP:BLP. Yes i know that some of them is not notable.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Newroderick895 (talk • contribs) 13:59, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

:*You misunderstand. You are very welcome to create an article listing his achievements as long as you provide independent, reliable sources for those achievements. -- Hoary (talk) 14:34, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

• Seems to be a naturopath. Article needs work but the news link above returns quite a bit of coverage. FloridaArmy (talk) 15:58, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
• weak Keep I'll try to remain neutral as I'm his adopter but the article is in a mess, probably the same length as a incomplete stub from Namma Metro green line station articles (example). Notability is questionable, but I think it should be kept. (the example above is still here and not at afd). 1.02 editor (C651 set 217/218) 07:46, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
• Delete - Non-notable, references are exceedingly weak. Beyond My Ken (talk) 13:34, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

:*Additional: It's also overly promotional, even after trimming. WP:FRINGEy, too. Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:06, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

• Note. An article about this individual was previously deleted per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joshua Axe. Deli nk (talk) 13:46, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

::Normally, this is displayed in a box at the top of the nomination, but I'm not sure how to put it there. If someone knows how to do it, that would be helpful. Deli nk (talk) 13:46, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

::Well spotted, Deli nk. I've added the link to that earlier discussion (which led to deletion). -- Hoary (talk) 22:32, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

• Delete. Although the Entrepreneur (magazine) article shows some promise (but it's just a blog-like article from a contributor to the website), the references currently in the article don't establish that there is significant coverage in independent reliable sources as required by WP:BIO. Searching for additional references, I see a lot of low quality sources only. Deli nk (talk) 13:46, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
• Update - I have improved the article and i have created additional sources. If you agree with me. go head reply to me, same goes for people who disagrees. Newroderick895 (talk) 20:42, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
• Comment: you have unnecessarily moved the page, Newroderick895; and your additions include He's a co-founder of BurstFit training program alongside with his wife, Chelsea. Dr. Axe is the visionary behind several cutting-edge and premium nutraceutical brands, including Ancient Nutrition, Axe Organics, NUMA Essentials and ProBiome Rx: What are his visions? Which edges are being cut? (The edge of ancientness, perhaps?) How are these "premium"? -- Hoary (talk) 22:44, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

:*The article was moved to Josh Axe (doctor), which is not only an unnecessary redirect -- since there is no other article "Josh Axe ()" to be disambiguated from -- but is also an attempt to create greater notability for the individual. I have therefore moved it back to the original title Josh Axe. Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:51, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

• Response- I have deleted sentences that is possibly not neutral. Unfortunately the article is not done yet and i am here to add text on the article. Newroderick895 (talk) 08:17, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

:*With [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Josh_Axe&diff=832236780&oldid=832236703 this edit], you removed a number of changes I made to the article which improved its accuracy, removed unsourced statements, Wikilinked terms, and improved the writing. DO NOT DO THIS AGAIN. You may have created the page, and written most of it, but YOU DO NOT WP:OWN IT, and do not have approval of edits to the article. If you disagree with a change that is made by another editor, do not revert it, discuss it on the article talk page. You also replaced a CN tag with a blog. Blogs are not considered to be reliable sources - see WP:SPS. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:42, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

• COPYVIO - Portions of this article appear to be a copyright violation from [https://www.palmer.edu/insights/issue.aspx?v=9&n=2&a=5 this web page]. I have marked it with a copyvio tag and will no longer work to improve it. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:48, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
• Delete - As per {{u|Beyond My Ken}} and {{u|Deli nk}}. He does gets some mentions in articles in the press, although those that I looked at were mainly lifestyle articles that appeared to be using his name as a means of backing up claims that were sometimes straying into :WP:FRINGE territory. Some coverage exists of his involvement in a company selling nutritional supplements. Copyright issues have plagued this article from the start. The bulk of the article at present is taken from promotional descriptions published by himself or organisations he has been associated with. Notability has not been established when judged against :WP:BASIC or :WP:AUTHOR. Drchriswilliams (talk) 08:53, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
• Delete: promotionalism only for an unremarkable individual. Does not meet WP:ANYBIO / WP:AUTHOR. Delete: non-notable, spam, copyvio - take your pick. K.e.coffman (talk) 18:26, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

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