Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kumar Mahabir

:{{la|Kumar Mahabir}} ([{{fullurl:Kumar Mahabir|wpReason={{urlencode: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kumar Mahabir}}&action=delete}} delete]) – (View AfD)(View log)

This has been speedy deleted twice as spam, and was marked db-spam again. I do not think it spam, but send it here for a decision of whether or not he is notable. Assistant professors rarely are, but I have not yet checked his books. DGG (talk) 03:02, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. —David Eppstein (talk) 03:15, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
• Speedy delete - According to this article, he has written seven books, and is CEO of "Chakra Publishing House". According to [http://www.geocities.com/chakrapub/ the Chakra Publishing House page] (on Geocities!), they have published seven books written or edited by Kumar Mahabir—which means that all of his books are self-published. Other than his books, he has no claim to notability. And while being an AUTOBIOGRAPHY isn't itself grounds for deletion, it's just bad practice to re-create it again after it's already been deleted twice. Dori ❦ (Talk ❖ Contribs ❖ Review) ❦ 04:12, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

::If was deleted twice as spam, which it might well have been considered to be because of the title: "Profile/Short biography of Kumar Mahabir". Spam is sometimes used when something is very likely not notable, but still doesn't fit in A7. that's what prod is for , or AfD. Speedy is not an optio at this point, because speedy was declined. The best course is sometime to AfD, because then re_creations can be removed as G4. DGG (talk) 04:42, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

• Comment. A couple of his books have had independent reviews - [http://www.newsday.co.tt/features/0,98791.html here] and [http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-79274642.html here]. According to [http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/888359741.html?dids=888359741:888359741&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&date=Aug+28%2C+2005&author=Carol+J.+Williams&pub=Los+Angeles+Times&desc=Caribbean+Court+Gives+Chickens+Time+of+Day&pqatl=google LA Times] he's the head of the Association of Caribbean Anthroplogists. There are a few articles by him in Caribbean papers too, his analysis on crime has been cited by [http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/jan/27/travel.trinidadandtobago?gusrc=rss&feed=travel The Guardian]. Not sure how all this works out, but a stub might be possible through these reliable source references. He probably won't pass WP:PROF or WP:AUTHOR, but might squeeze through WP:GNG. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SpacemanSpiff (talk • contribs) 5:59, 15 July 2009
• Reply - I could be convinced to agree with WP:GNG if someone is able to find any other members of the Association. So far, I haven't been able to, which leads me to believe that it's about as relevant to notability as his publishing company. Dori ❦ (Talk ❖ Contribs ❖ Review) ❦ 04:02, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

::* There's a stub possible from these sources, but I'm not sure that he's still notable, which is why I threw it up as a comment, and am not going to try convincing anyone. -SpacemanSpiff^{Calvin‡Hobbes} 17:09, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

• Delete. Does not yet seem to pass WP:PROF. If he were really curator of a major museum, that might be enough, but the museum site lists him only as a vice chairman and the low amount of press I can find for the Indian Caribbean Museum suggests it is not major. As for the Association of Caribbean Anthropologists, the only pages I can find on it are really about Mahabir and state only that he's president of it, so clearly its notability is less than his and can't be used to support this article. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:09, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

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