Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Laurie Paul

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Subject fails WP:GNG. Cannot locate reliable, significant sources in support of the player's notability per Wikipedia's guidelines. Wikipedia is not a directory of Australian football players nor a historical document. -The Gnome (talk) 15:51, 22 February 2025 (UTC) -The Gnome (talk) 15:51, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Australia. Shellwood (talk) 16:42, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
• Are we really still doing this? Redirect it to the list of players. That's the agreed outcome. But I hope destruction of what's been built here makes you feel good inside. And given none of those guidelines apply in any way, try actually reading those irrelevant WP:NOT pages before you so diligently linked to them. Or even better, spend your time reading WP:PURPOSE to remind yourself what Wikipedia is, rather than what it is not. The-Pope (talk) 12:19, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

::Instead of engaging in such a foaming, often incoherent, personal attack, an action that, you should know, does not go unpunished here, you are kindly advised to focus on the heart of the matter. Where are the sources that support the article's subject as being independently notable? As to what "has been agreed", I have no idea what you're talking about and would speculate you are confusing me for someone else. -The Gnome (talk) 19:52, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

:::Can't wait to see what my punishment is. If you think that was "foaming, often incoherent" (that seems like a personal attack on me!), you should've seen the first draft before I toned it down. See Talk:Bill_Ockleshaw for an example of how other deletionists go about it. Have you read the Purpose document yet? Or are you too busy trying to delete articles that were legitimately created under previous guidelines? The-Pope (talk) 04:26, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

::::Why you are unable to simply acknowledge that you accused me of something I was not part of is no longer my concern. Sarcastic expressions such as "too busy" close down firmly all avenues of decent communication. Only this, self-evident truth: When the rules change, we change our actions accordingly. That's how it goes wherever there are rules, from society's laws to Wikipedia's policies. And now you're on your own. -The Gnome (talk) 09:17, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

• Speedy Keep. No valid argument has been given why this should be deleted when such an obvious valid alternative to deletion exists. The crusade against sports continues while others skate by with a free pass. When are we going to see the same standards applied to academics and artists or are they worthy pursuits unlike the undignified practice of grown men chasing around after a ball. Let's enforce rules for some while we ignore them for others. Incoherent foaming done for now. duffbeerforme (talk) 13:19, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

::This is the second comment attacking the nominator instead of addressing the points raised in the nomination. For what little it may be worth, and as it happens, I have no idea whatsoever what on Earth is that "crusade" you are talking about, and I do not want to know! But where do you get this notion of me dismissing sports as "undignified"? It would prevent you from posting up such nonsense if you knew more about my person but, of course, I will not go there. As to the "valid argument" for deletion which you claim is absent, it is already present in the nomination: The subject lacks notability as notability is defined in Wikipedia. Importantly, Wikipedia is not a directory of all sportsmen, for any sport, from Australian-rules football to Zorb football. -The Gnome (talk) 18:00, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

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• Redirect to List of Melbourne Football Club players, no reason to exist as a standalone article. Geschichte (talk) 18:07, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

• Redirect to List of Melbourne Football Club players if that's the agreed-upon outcome versus delete. I went through many pages of Australian newspaper archives with variations of his name from the time period he played and then the time period he lived. All I found was this governmental notice of his death[https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-age-lester-laurie-paul/167014076/]. Zzz plant (talk) 04:20, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

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