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I have carried out WP:BEFORE for this article on a school, and added another piece of local news coverage about its establishment. I can find very little non-primary coverage, however, and don't think it meets WP:GNG or WP:NSCHOOL. It was established in 2018, so it may be WP:TOOSOON for it to have demonstrated notability.

Redirect to its multi-academy trust, Leigh Academies Trust, is a possibility, but I didn't want to go ahead and do this without consulting the community, partly because the Leigh Academy Blackheath article is well-developed for what sources there are, and partly because I'm not entirely convinced that the trust itself is notable (mostly primary sources or local coverage in that article too) - so didn't want to redirect from one article with weak notability to another. Tacyarg (talk) 19:30, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education, Schools, and United Kingdom. Tacyarg (talk) 19:30, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch 04:44, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Leigh Academies Trust. I agree with the nom. that I am not seeing what makes this a notable school. There is a reasonable amount of information on the page, although this is largely just put together from primary sources regarding or reporting its construction. That information could be pared back a bit, but actually would be useful in this article were the school shown to be notable for some other reason. It is a new school, and there is good reason to believe the situation will change at some point, so I would be unhappy with a result that saw the page history hidden by deletion, but the redirect will preserve what is here until such a time as notability is established. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:49, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
  • Keep. Enough coverage to meet WP:GNG, as with all secondary schools in the United Kingdom. -- Necrothesp (talk) 17:34, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
  • :Which sources meet GNG? (that is, they are independent, reliable and secondary, with significant coverage)? Thanks. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:27, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
  • Keep per Necrothesp. Stifle (talk) 08:15, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:48, 23 April 2025 (UTC)Leigh Academy Blackheath

  • Keep - The article passes WP:GNG and WP:ORG because the topic has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. The articles from [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22Greenwich+Wire%22&title=Special%3ASearch&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1 Greenwich Wire], News Shopper, and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22Charlton+Champion%22&title=Special%3ASearch&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1 Charlton Champion], which are cited in the WP Leigh Academy Blackheath article, are all WP:IS and WP:RS. - tucoxn\talk 18:28, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
  • Comment The article does not pass WP:GNG and certainly does not pass WP:ORG for which the sources must meet WP:ORGDEPTH, which says {{tqb|Deep or significant coverage provides an overview, description, commentary, survey, study, discussion, analysis, or evaluation of the product, company, or organization. Such coverage provides an organization with a level of attention that extends well beyond brief mentions and routine announcements, and makes it possible to write more than a very brief, incomplete stub about the organization.}}So the general observation I have, before getting into a review of the sources, is that, per the above, we need sources that talk about the notability of the school as an organisation, and not simply sources that describe the process of erecting a building. As all the sources suggested are simply about building the school, we clearly fall short of NORG, and we also fall short of GNG. My review:

:* Greenwich Wire [https://greenwichwire.co.uk/2020/05/27/pandemic-delays-work-on-new-leigh-academy-blackheath-school-buildings/] - News report of Plans to open new school buildings in Blackheath hit by the coronavirus. Per WP:PRIMARYNEWS this is news reporting, a primary source. It is local news, and run of the mill reporting. {{nay}}

:* Newsshopper. There are three articles. All articles from one outlet should be treated together as a single source for notability purposes (that is, even if all three meet IRS SIGCOV, then we only have one source, and if just one does, we have one source). The first (Dempsey, 2017)[https://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/15429497.leigh-academy-blackheath-announces-principal-before-new-secondary-school-opens-in-2018/] is an announcement of the principal for the new school All News Shopper articles are local news, and there is no SIGCOV of the school. The source is primary news reporting. {{nay}} The other two sources (Bull, 2018a)[https://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/16386451.leigh-academy-blackheath-plans-for-new-school-submitted-to-council/] and (Bull, 2018b)[https://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/17189130.leigh-academy-blackheath-plans-set-to-be-approved/] are about the submission fo plans for the school building and subsequent approval. Primary news reporting in a local paper. Some information about the proposed size of the school, but again, it is primary. Reporting the submission of a planning application does not make a building notable.{{nay}}

:* Charlton Champion [https://charltonchampion.co.uk/2018/11/07/leigh-academy-gets-go-ahead-to-build-new-school-on-blackheath-bluecoat-site/] has the same author as two of the Newsshopper pieces, and is similarly primary sourced local news simply about the green light to go ahead and build the school. {{nay}}

:I asked above if we have secondary sources that show notability of the school. I haven't found any. This is likely to be because the school is new and ordinary. I would expect and hope teh situation would change in the future, but we are not there yet. To preserve the page history until such a time as it becomes notable, I continue to propose we redirect the page. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 19:07, 24 April 2025 (UTC)