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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Meralco Theater

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Discussion of a possible merger can continue on the talk page. Beeblebrox Beebletalks 23:03, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

=[[:Meralco Theater]]=

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Fails WP:GNG, no coverage on the theater itself save for the 40th anniversary Philippine Star article. Other citations are an OpEd, a tag page for Rappler only filled with press release articles of events happening. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 12:53, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Theatre and Philippines. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 12:53, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Merge and move relevant details (seating capacity, opening/inauguration date and so on) to the Meralco Building article. -Ian Lopez @ 15:18, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 20:36, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Keep A WP:BEFORE search shows this is a clearly notable theatre. [https://www.lionheartv.net/2024/02/eat-bulaga-meralco-theater/] and mentions in The Palgrave Handbook of Musical Theatre Producers, The Encyclopedia of World Ballet, Encyclopedia of Asian Theatre: O-Z, [https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-48084-8_18], has its own tag on Philstar for news about it [https://www.philstar.com/tags/meralco-theater]... should be easily notable, even if the article needs work. Notability isn't just about the citations in the article... SportingFlyer T·C 21:30, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
  • :Comment Similarly the Philstar tags are just PR release for events happening in the theatre (watch this play now, get your tickets now! at contact number type of articles). LionHeartTV's reliability is being contested. I cannot comment whether the Meralco Theatre is substantially mentioned on the aforementioned book though. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 07:21, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
  • :Comment - To clarify, having a tag on Philstar does not automatically make the theater notable. Tags, much like categories on Wikipedia, are intended to group news articles that may be related to the subject. While they can be a helpful starting point for finding related coverage, they do not necessarily indicate notability. Additionally, most, if not all, of the articles in that tag only talk about the events held in the theater, but they don’t talk about the theater itself, which I think does not establish WP:SIGCOV on Philstar’s end. Below are the first three articles from that tag that demonstrates the lack of significant coverage for the theater itself despite having a tag. Other articles with the tag are the same as these:
  • :* [https://www.philstar.com/lifestyle/arts-and-culture/2018/09/24/1854306/cocoy-laurel-leads-guadalupe-musical-september Cocoy Laurel leads 'Guadalupe: The Musical' in September] - Only talks about the event, the only mention of the theater is, {{tq|"Guadalupe: The Musical" will run at 8 p.m. from Sept. 28 to Oct. 14, 2018 at the Meralco Theater, with with Saturday and Sunday matinées at 3 p.m.}}
  • :* [https://www.philstar.com/entertainment/2015/12/19/1534120/halili-30th-year-concert Halili 30th-year concert] - Similar to the first one, this one only talks about the event and the only mention of the theater is, {{tq|The Halili-Cruz School of Ballet (HCSB) celebrates Christmas with a dance concert titled HCSB 30th Anniversary: Isang Pasasalamat at the Meralco Theater tomorrow at 6 p.m.}}
  • :* [https://www.philstar.com/entertainment/2015/11/06/1518749/horse-and-his-boy-opens-today-meralco-theater The Horse and His Boy opens today at Meralco Theater] - Literally the same as the first two, the only mention of the theater is, {{tq|If you haven’t told your kids a story recently, take them to Trumpet’s The Horse and His Boy. The journey begins today at the Meralco Theater.}}
  • :AstrooKai (Talk) 13:16, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
  • ::Of course not. At the same time, there are dozens of articles with that tag, only dating back about 15-20 years, and the "40 years" article is clearly SIGCOV. SportingFlyer T·C 20:33, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Keep. I agree that this is a notable theatre. Bduke (talk) 00:05, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Keep Per SportingFlyer's sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by D-Flo27 (talk • contribs) 12:05, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
  • :@D-Flo27 sources that can be questioned. LionhearTV, in particular, is going to be treated as a generally-unreliable source very soon. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 01:44, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Merge as suggested by a local editor. I might check it out when I'm in Manila for my partner's family reunion. Bearian (talk) 04:45, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Keep Meets WP:GNG with sources presented by SportingFlyer. They're reliable and in-depth enough IMV. SBKSPP (talk) 01:52, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanderwaalforces (talk) 21:39, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

  • Merge both articles would be better for it. Djflem (talk) 20:15, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

{{clear}}

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.