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Fails the requirements of WP:ANYBIO / WP:MUSICBIO. Lacks significant coverage of the individual in multiple reliable sources. Apart from the Sunday Observer article, the others are just mentions in passing. It has also been extensively edited by, what appears to be, the individual the subject of the article - WP:SELFPROMOTION. Has been tagged as not meeting WP:GNG, since February 2016, without any substantive improvements to the referencing/sourcing. Dan arndt (talk) 07:39, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Bands and musicians, and Sri Lanka. Dan arndt (talk) 07:39, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
• Delete: In addition to the concerns about the possible autobiographical edits, 11 of the 16 sources appear to be dead links and bring up a 404 error when trying to access them. Based on the titles, these sources may follow a similar pattern described later. Most of the remaining ones are either plot summaries of a movie that lists the subject in the cast (source 8 for example) or articles discussing a movie and listing the subject as a music director (with no further mention or coverage of the subject), such as in sources 9 and 10. The first links that appear when doing a search of the subject include profiles on Facebook and YouTube, his official site, and a few other similar articles similarly providing a passing mention but not significant coverage of him (such as him performing at an event). ProClasher97 ~ Have A Question? 07:58, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
• :The article has since been updated with 36 reliable sources, most of which are now accessible and provide substantial coverage beyond passing mentions. Maduka Jayalath (talk) 06:06, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
• Delete even after rewrite. The sources provided are mostly IMDB. While there are newspapers, they appear to be excessively promotional and making outlandish statements. For these reasons I do not believe WP:GNG is met. Good day—RetroCosmos ^talk 13:25, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
• :The article has been revised with a stronger set of 36 sources, focusing on reliable newspaper coverage with less emphasis on IMDb or promotional tone. Maduka Jayalath (talk) 06:07, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
• Keep has won notable awards and these sources [https://archives.sundayobserver.lk/2015/04/05/spe-ha1.asp here] and [https://www.sundaytimes.lk/210228/education/sri-lanka-technological-campus-launches-countrys-first-extensive-research-complex-433754.html here] are significant coverage in reliable sources in my opinion Atlantic306 (talk) 21:56, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
• :First source looks ok (i believe this is the source mentioned in nom) but second source is a thinly disguised press release that is not significant coverage of the subject. Good day—RetroCosmos ^talk 05:22, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
• ::The updated article now includes 36 references, many of which provide substantial coverage of the subject from reliable, independent sources. I believe this demonstrates notability more clearly. Maduka Jayalath (talk) 06:03, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
• :::I do not believe any of the sources in the article demonstrate all 3 of significance, independence, or reliability. Good day—RetroCosmos ^talk 16:01, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
• ::::Thank you for your feedback.
• ::::*You mentioned that none of the sources in the article demonstrate all three criteria: significance, independence, and reliability. Could you please clarify which sources you reviewed and how they fall short in each of those specific areas? Without a detailed explanation, it’s difficult to understand the basis of your conclusion or to address any shortcomings effectively.
• ::::*Additionally, I would like to point out that the subject is referenced in over 140 existing Wikipedia articles, which indicates a degree of established notability. You can verify this using the following search link: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=500&offset=0&ns0=1&search=Nadeeka+Guruge
• ::::*A more specific breakdown of your concerns would be greatly appreciated so that we can improve the article accordingly.
• ::::Maduka Jayalath (talk) 00:02, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
• :::::That's not how notability works. Good day—RetroCosmos ^talk 18:08, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
• ::::::I just realized this, but some of Maduka Jayalath’s comments above appear to be AI-generated starting from the "Thank you for your feedback" one, as those comments and the one below this one from them scored 100% on GPTZero. ProClasher97 ~ Have A Question? 12:43, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

:The article has been thoroughly updated with a broader range of reliable sources, including citations from established Wikipedia articles and recognized newspapers. These additions aim to enhance the article’s credibility and depth. A fresh review would be appreciated. Maduka Jayalath (talk) 06:14, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

• Keep Nadeeka Guruge is an award winning artists in Sri Lanka with rare human qualities. I don't think it is fare for non Sri Lanka born or non Sri Lankan resident to propose deletion of this Article without even knowing our language + without knowing the contribution done to Sri Lankan Music by maestro Nadeeka Guruge.

:You may read articles at https://archives1.sundayobserver.lk/search/node/nadeeka%20guruge to know more about him and his works. Additionally please check https://sltc.ac.lk/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Music-Brochure-2023-OCT-10.pdf (SLTC Registration https://www.ugc.ac.lk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=101&Itemid=37&lang=enlook for SLT Campus) to know his contribution towards music education in Sri Lanka.

:I strongly disagree about Non Sri Lankan users requesting to delete a humble and non commercialized artists profiles without even doing a proper research. I hope MODS will take necessary actions to prevent this kind of things again. Thank You.

Damith Rushika Kothalawala (talk) 07:19, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

:...and what are the "rare human qualities"? I'm sure he is probably notable on Tamil Wikipedia but not here. GarethBaloney (talk) 22:32, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

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:Oh good lord a vote from an account whose last real edit was in 2016. Go read WP:CANVASS. 100.36.106.199 (talk) 11:49, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

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• Hi, can someone please give a detailed review of the Sinhalese references as I can't get Google Translate to work with them, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 22:08, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
• :Hi @Atlantic306,
• :If you're using the Google Chrome browser, it works perfectly for me without any issues.
• :Just right-click anywhere on the page and select "Translate to English"
• :Please see the [https://imgur.com/a/KVx1qFc screenshots] for reference.
• :Note: If you see an error message like “Could not translate this page” try refreshing the page and trying again.
• :Let me know if it still doesn't work on your end, happy to help further! Maduka Jayalath (talk) 01:23, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

• I have posted English translations of Sinhala-language sources on Talk:Nadeeka Guruge#English Translations of Sinhala References. Please review the translations or suggest priority claims for verification. Maduka Jayalath (talk) 06:20, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

::* These seem to be a collection of articles largely based on interviews or just passing mentions. I don't see anything in these sources to indicate notability per Wikipedia guidelines. --John B123 (talk) 07:02, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

::*:@John B123 please note that these translations cover only the non-English references, 15 in total while the subject article, Nadeeka Guruge, includes over 40 references in total. Maduka Jayalath (talk) 07:13, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

• Proposed removing the COI notice in response to the original proposer, as discussed at Talk:Nadeeka Guruge#COI. Maduka Jayalath (talk) 06:42, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

• {{re|Maduka Jayalath}} It's the quality of sources that count towards notability not the quantity. Please indicate what you consider the 3 best sources that meet the WP:GNG requirements of {{tq|significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject}}. --John B123 (talk) 07:13, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• :Here are three sources that offer significant, independent coverage of the subject, excluding interviews and passing mentions
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• :1. [https://archives.sundayobserver.lk/2015/04/05/spe-ha1.asp Reference #4]
• :2. [https://pulse.lk/everythingelse/sltc-launches-sri-lankas-first-school-of-music-in-a-non-state-university/ Reference #3]
• :3. [https://www.elanka.com.au/the-roots-of-music-in-sri-lanka-has-five-primary-influences-ancient-folk-nadeeka-guruge-guitaristcomposer-vocalist-award-winning-phenominal-music-director-at-the-helm-of-fame-by-sunilthenabadu/ Reference #2]
• :;
• :Apart from WP:GNG, a search for the subject on Wikipedia reveals over [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=500&offset=0&ns0=1&search=Nadeeka+Guruge 40 mentions across other articles], which highlights the subject’s relevance and further supports the case for the article’s existence. Maduka Jayalath (talk) 09:19, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• ::No immediate comment on 1 and 2 in your list, but I am calling WP:NEWSORGINDIA on the fawning coverage of number 3 (which you call, Reference #2. That is, [https://www.elanka.com.au/the-roots-of-music-in-sri-lanka-has-five-primary-influences-ancient-folk-nadeeka-guruge-guitaristcomposer-vocalist-award-winning-phenominal-music-director-at-the-helm-of-fame-by-sunilthenabadu/]). Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 09:49, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• :::Regarding the author of the mentioned article (Reference #2), Sunil Thenabadu, he is described as a recognized freelance journalist in the Sunday Times (1 October 2023, [https://www.sundaytimes.lk/231001/magazine/sunil-thenabadu-turned-to-book-writing-531021.html link]). He has also published work in the Daily News ([https://archives1.dailynews.lk/line/sunil-thenabadu link]), a well-established and reliable newspaper in Sri Lanka, along with other reliable newspapers, as can be confirmed with a quick online search. Maduka Jayalath (talk) 12:01, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• :::: As www.elanka.com.au states {{tq|eLanka’s main mission is to bring the Global Sri Lankan community together to spread Good News Stories about all Sri Lankans in Australia & Globally and assist the community via a digital (Internet) platform to help market their products and services}}, I'm not sure it qualifies as a reliable source. --John B123 (talk) 20:41, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• :::::Understood, Let’s evaluate the quality of the other two references. Do they meet WP:GNG by providing significant coverage in independent, reliable sources? Maduka Jayalath (talk) 01:14, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
• Comment - This article has been reference-bombed with sources of varying quality. Please specify the three sources that establish either musical notability or general notability . Robert McClenon (talk) 20:58, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• :1. [https://archives.sundayobserver.lk/2015/04/05/spe-ha1.asp This source is cited as Reference #4 in the article.]
• :2. [https://pulse.lk/everythingelse/sltc-launches-sri-lankas-first-school-of-music-in-a-non-state-university/ This source is cited as Reference #3 in the article.]
• :3. [https://www.elanka.com.au/the-roots-of-music-in-sri-lanka-has-five-primary-influences-ancient-folk-nadeeka-guruge-guitaristcomposer-vocalist-award-winning-phenominal-music-director-at-the-helm-of-fame-by-sunilthenabadu/ This source is cited as Reference #2 in the article.]
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• :Maduka Jayalath (talk) 01:26, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
• Keep: Notability is established by meeting WP:MUSICBIO or WP:ANYBIO based on several awards the subject has won.Darkm777 (talk) 02:12, 24 April 2025 (UTC)