Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shag Musa Medani

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Declined prod with reason "subject meets WP:NATH as a cross country national champion". I'm not sure if this relates to WP:NATH #4 "Have won their country's senior national championship, with the exception of those who have never been ranked in the top 60 on the IAAF world leading list at the end of a given calendar year". There isn't enough evidence that he is in the top 60 IAAF for cross country. All sources are databases and fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. LibStar (talk) 23:21, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Olympics, Sport of athletics, and Sudan. LibStar (talk) 23:21, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
• Keep. I disagree with citing NATH in general in AfDs, but if you're going to bring it up, yes, subject clearly meets NATH prong 4 as an XC national champion and was in fact ranked 55th (top 60) in the world by the IAAF in cross country in 1977: [https://web.archive.org/web/20071016110427/http://mypage.bluewin.ch/tomtytom/iccu/wxc_iaaf/wxc_SM1977S.html].

: What's always been more important was the general notability guideline, which can be met in a variety of ways including by WP:NEXIST. The case for NEXIST for this subject is strong, as the top Sudanese representative around the world in several disciplines over a multi-year period in the 1970s. I've looked and couldn't find prose-based coverage yet, but I would expect to find articles in physical Sudanese newspapers of the era, which could be accessible to us via a Wikipedian in Sudan. --Habst (talk) 12:58, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

• Redirect to Sudan at the 1972 Summer Olympics: Like the nom, I could not find any WP:SIGCOV for this BLP to meet the notability guidelines. WP:SPORTSBASIC requires at least one piece of significant coverage to be included in the article, which has never been the case here. We also can't assume who the local media would and would not have covered when determining whether to keep any WP:BLP. Redirect as a suitable WP:ATD, while also preserving the page history in the event better sourcing is found in the future. Let'srun (talk) 03:24, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

• Keep The relevant guideline, which the article subject easily meets, is WP:SPORT, not WP:WEB, and just looking at the page shows more than enough WP:SIGCOV in WP:RS to meet WP:GNG. 190.219.103.171 (talk) 17:57, 6 April 2025 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE. Geschichte (talk) 16:51, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
• :All the supplied sources are databases. as per WP:SPORTBASIC "All sports biographies, including those of subjects meeting any criteria listed below, must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources." LibStar (talk) 23:28, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

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• Redirect to Sudan at the 1972 Summer Olympics#Athletics – As WP:ATD. The arguments in favor of keep did not present any kind of sources. Svartner (talk) 10:38, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

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