Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sunshine Burger

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This is essentially an pure advertisement for a non-notable organic burger. The onlynon local RS is a short note in Esquire as part of an organic food issue; this is not significant coverage. of this story. DGG ( talk ) 09:37, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

• This page should be kept because the references are adequate (I agree the article still needs work) and the organization seems like it has enough notability to keep the page (it does need some work in dialing down the promotional tone, but I think deletion should be the very last resort). As noted by {{u|BissellStreetBill}} on the article's talk page; similar burgers and companies that produce them also have articles such as the Boca Burger, Amy's Kitchen, Gardein, Beyond Meat, and the Impossible Burger. Daylen (talk) 05:30, 2 January 2017 (UTC) See updated comment below

::Hi {{u|Daylen}}. The promotional tone is not really the issue at this venue. What we really need are examples of reliable, third-party sources that discuss this burger in a non-trivial way. This ideally means it is the topic of the source, or at least has a lot of coverage. A newspaper article discussing the burger would be fine. AIRcorn (talk) 08:07, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 03:42, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

:Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 03:42, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

• Delete Concur with nom. Insufficient coverage in independent RS to meets WP:NCORP. MB 05:06, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
• Delete as corporate spam; content belongs on the company web site not here. K.e.coffman (talk) 10:35, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

• Keep Here are references listed in the article (along with quotes from the Wikipedia article):

  1. Andrew Hickey, “Growing Organically from day one: Carol Debberman’s vegan, organic Sunshine Burgers are capturing the national market”, The Ulster County Press, February 20, 2008, retrieved May 17, 2016.
  2. To help expand the business, Debberman began taking the prebaked veggie burgers around nearby Manhattan, to various natural food stores and restaurants and moved to New York City.3 Joe Bevliacqua, “Notes from Napanoch”, Ellenville Journal, April 1, 2007, retrieved May 17, 2016.
  3. Debberman attributes the name of the business to sunflowers seeds, an ingredient in every Sunshine Burger. “It was the hippie times when I took the name Sunshine Burgers. Everybody was into that flowery type of thing.”5 Doug Blackburn, “Burgers to Veg On,” Times Union, January 21, 2005, retrieved May 17, 2016.

  Here are more sources:

  1. {{cite news |last=Rosenbaum |first=Ron |date=May 1984 |title=The Alternative Big Mac |url=http://www.sunshineburger.com/media/uploads/Esquire-article.pdf |newspaper=Esquire |accessdate=2017-01-08 |archiveurl=http://www.webcitation.org/6nMR2qdKz |archivedate=2017-01-08 }}

     This article provides substantial coverage of the subject.

  2. {{cite news |date=2009-11-01 |title=The truth about the great American veggie burger |url=http://www.sunshineburger.com/media/uploads/Cooking-Light-Nov-2009-Article.pdf |newspaper=Cooking Light |accessdate=2017-01-08 |archiveurl=http://www.webcitation.org/6nMRB9u1w |archivedate=2017-01-08 }}

     The article notes:

     Sunshine Southwest Organic Burger

     ...

     Verdict: This hefty burger has big flavor courtesy of cumin and jalapeño pepper, but still manages a low sodium count. Plus, it has plenty of healthy fiber. Spread frat-free refried beans on the bun to boost protein. For extra nutrition credit, top with a tablespoon or two of guacamole.

     This provides coverage about one of the company's burgers.
  3. {{cite news |date=2010-03-01 |title=Sunshine Burgers |url=http://www.sunshineburger.com/media/uploads/Exercise-for-Men-Only-3-10.pdf |newspaper=Exercise for Men Only |accessdate=2017-01-08 |archiveurl=http://www.webcitation.org/6nMRTzWap |archivedate=2017-01-08 }}

     The article provides substantial coverage about Sunshine Burger and its burgers.

  4. {{cite news |last=Billmaier |first=Britt |date=2010-09-12 |title=Veggie burgers with a pedigree |url=http://www.sfgate.com/food/article/Veggie-burgers-with-a-pedigree-3253444.php |newspaper=San Francisco Chronicle |accessdate=2017-01-08 |archiveurl=http://www.webcitation.org/6nMRcIT45 |archivedate=2017-01-08 }}

     The writer provides a short review of the subject:

     Veggie burgers may not be anything new, but Sunshine Burgers are particularly satisfying.

     They are made from whole grains, organic vegetables and ground raw sunflower seeds - an ingredient not usually found in other brands. The frozen patties are high in protein, fiber and vitamin E, and are free of gluten, soy and wheat.

  There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Sunshine Burgers to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

  Cunard (talk) 11:30, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

• Delete and I meant to comment sooner, and I'll note the sources above are simply clear PR with the worst (yet listed as "the best source of all"): {{tq|This hefty burger has big flavor courtesy of cumin and jalapeño pepper, but still manages a low sodium count. Plus, it has plenty of healthy fiber. Spread frat-free refried beans on the bun to boost protein. For extra nutrition credit, top with a tablespoon or two of guacamole}} Hence there's nothing to base a convincing article in our policies (considerably WP:NOT), since there's no actual sourcing about the company, something essential about these subjects hence delete. SwisterTwister talk 06:03, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
• Delete Hi {{ping|Aircorn}} I attempted to find a notable source for Sunshine Burger, but was unsuccessful. The only article I found was a one sentence mention of the black bean burger in the cooking section of The Globe and Mail (I added this citation to the article last week). Daylen (talk) 21:23, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

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