Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tom McDonnell

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Non-notable local politician. As raised at Talk:Tom McDonnell, in terms of:

• WP:NPOL, subject has not held national or international office (Despite [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tom_McDonnell&oldid=1240693980 initial author's claims] about subject being elected to "parliament", he is a local councillor who was elected to Newbridge LEA of Kildare County Council, on 11th count, with 548 first pref votes). While, as a local election candidate, the subject received perhaps slightly more coverage than some others, that coverage is mainly about the unusual nature of the subject's electioneering statements. Rather than coverage of the subject as a person/candidate.
• WP:NBIO, and as above, the coverage available does not provide enough biographical detail to expand the article. To the extent that basic biographical facts (place of birth, early life, education, etc, etc) are not established/supported. (In fact, we only seem to know the subject's age because it was read into court records as part of a criminal damage conviction).
• WP:NCRIMINAL, breaking another man's windows is not of "historic significance" to the extent that the subject gains notability for being convicted to such an offence.

TLDR: While the subject's name appears in slightly more news articles than we might expect for any other (otherwise non-notable) local councillor, the margins involved are small. And caused by the subject's unusual electioneering statements (and apparent petty criminality), rather than notability under WP:SIGCOV, WP:NPOL or WP:NCRIMINAL.

(Note: If the subject was a member of a political party, I'd propose redirection to the "election history" section of that party's article. Or similar. As an independent, I cannot conceive of an appropriate WP:ATD-R target.) Guliolopez (talk) 17:09, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Guliolopez (talk) 17:12, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Guliolopez (talk) 17:12, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
• Delete - Non notable local councillor. Fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. Some coverage in local media due to his "colourful remarks" does not make him notable. Spleodrach (talk) 19:24, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
• Delete Controversy doesn’t grant notability. (I’m not sure we need always even consider ATD, otherwise every local election article could end up full of linked names just redirecting to party electoral history). Iveagh Gardens (talk) 19:36, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
• :Comment. To confirm, while I would sometimes propose an ATD (and had considered but then discounted it here) I'm not saying one always should be considered/proposed. As you say, we do not need "blue link" titles for all such subjects. Redirects or otherwise. I note, with some interest, that this councillor is THE ONLY ONE with a blue link in the "councillors" section of the Kildare County Council article. Which is kinda telling. As there is no way that this subject is "standout" above all others. Notability-wise. Anyway, definitely not advocating for ATD-R here.... Guliolopez (talk) 19:45, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
• Delete: Being a local/county councillor does not qualify for WP:NPOL. Azarctic (talk) 15:56, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
• Delete Breaking someone's windows and making bizarre comments does not make a councillor notable, as noted a proper BLP cannot be built from the coverage present. AusLondonder (talk) 02:20, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
• Delete per {{U|AusLondonder}}. Even his alleged crimes are not notable. Bearian (talk) 01:32, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

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