Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Warren Cassell, Jr.
:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. j⚛e deckertalk 15:45, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
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sourcing dependent on WP:BLPPRIMARY WP:BLPSPS WP:BLPSELFPUB 2 books are self-published, sourcing is largely primary. (edited by SOCK of banned account User:Morning277, created by suspected SOCK/MEAT per Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#Bert_Martinez) Widefox; talk 10:35, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
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Thank you for the notice. I'll be happy to help resolve the issue - all unreliable and primary sources that you mentioned have been removed. With regard to publishing self-published books what exactly is the issue? Caribbeanbio (talk) 16:00, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
:Notability - he's not a published author, but a self-published one. That's an issue for notability. Widefox; talk 02:14, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
::Keep I don't think that the article's notability was based on him publishing a book. The young man should be given at least some credit for writing for Entrepreneur_(magazine) regularly and featured by The_Root_(magazine) as well as named Caribbean Entrepreneur of the Year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caribbeanbio (talk • contribs) 03:33, 9 November 2014 (UTC)Caribbeanbio (talk) 03:47, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
:::We agree on that. (I was thinking WP:RS). Current sources fall short of passing WP:AUTHOR / WP:JOURNALIST 1-4. We should both keep to notability guidelines, and far from WP:ILIKEIT / give credit. Widefox; talk 04:08, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
::::IMO he falls in the lines of being notable. Failing to see why he is not considered to be notable. I do agree with you in terms of some of the content and references in the article may not be along the lines of Wikipedia's guidelines. This does not mean that the entire article should be deleted. Caribbeanbio (talk) 22:09, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
::::: That pretty much describes WP:TOOSOON, a reason to delete, especially a BLP. Widefox; talk 14:03, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
- Delete This is a 15 year old kid in high school who started a small greeting card venture. With money provided by his parents, he dabbles in the stock market. He is ambitious and seems talented at generating local human interest stories in a few Carribean publications. However, he is not notable at this time. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 23:22, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
::Fully agree. He appears to be a local kid with potential, not notable at this point, irrespective of the sourcing issues. More WP:NOT#NEWS / LOCALNEWS than encyclopedic content. Widefox; talk 02:11, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
- Delete coverage is extremely local and writeup is highly promotional. Then there is the undeclared COI editing in violation of the TOU [https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use#4._Refraining_from_Certain_Activities]. Note I was asked to comment on this [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ALogical_Cowboy&diff=633046608&oldid=632846865]. Logical Cowboy (talk) 23:48, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
::Truly appreciate you fulfilling my request to add to the discussion. Caribbeanbio (talk) 00:04, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
:::Comment to closing admin: User:Morning277, and several other editors with either confirmed or suspected (with overwhelming behavioural evidence) have edited the article without declaring paid editing (which, if recent, violates the new TOU). Widefox; talk 14:08, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
- Delete The authorship is not significant; the entrepreneurship might conceivably be, but the award cannot be taken as a significant award without additional evidence--I cannot find that anyone else who has received the award has an article in WP. DGG ( talk ) 09:20, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
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