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:The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} 18:47, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Russian amputees}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:EGRS/I: this intersection is not defining. Edward-Woodrow • talk 22:35, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose, this is part of the tree of :Category:Amputees by nationality. Admittedly nationality is trivial too here, but nationality is the main intersection criterion for the entire tree of :Category:People. Most certainly WP:EGRS/I does not apply: nationality is not ethnicity. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:39, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
• Keep, as par of established trees {{Cl|Amputees by nationality}} and {{Cl|Russian people with disabilities}}. WP:CATDEF explicitly cite {{tq|the nationality of a person or the geographic location of a place}} as defining characteristics. Large categories are routinely diffused by such obviously defining characteristics. If you disagree with such categorization, I suggest two possible roads :
• # If you consider for an individual article that amputation is anecdotal and not a defining characteristic worth a category, or otherwise not sufficiently supported by reliable sources, you may be bold and immediately remove the category for that article. Present your concise rationale in an edit summary, and be prepared to discuss the matter in the article's talk page if another editor objects.
• # If you consider that amputation is never defining for any article, then you need to nominate {{Cl|Amputees}} and all of its categories for discussion, not just the Russian one. Place Clichy (talk) 08:23, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose deletion. Amputee is defining, and the intersection with nationality makes the entire category manageable. Mason (talk) 23:47, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} 18:47, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Recipients of the Jubilee Medal "Ashig Alasgar – 200"}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:OCAWARD. An anniversary medal rather than that for achievements. Brandmeister^talk 21:24, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:43, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:OCAWARD. Place Clichy (talk) 08:29, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
• Delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:27, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} 18:47, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Recipients of the Azerbaijan Democratic Republic 100th anniversary medal}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:OCAWARD, with all due respect to the Azerbaijan Democratic Republic. An anniversary medal rather than that for achievements. Partial list of recipients is at Azerbaijan Democratic Republic 100th anniversary medal#Recipients and could be expanded there. Brandmeister^talk 21:13, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:44, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:OCAWARD. Place Clichy (talk) 08:29, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
• Delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:27, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} 18:52, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Culture of Hokkaido to :Category:Culture in Hokkaido

:Nominator's rationale: All the other categories for culture in prefectures such as :Category:Culture in Gunma Prefecture use in rather than of Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 18:25, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

• Mild keep. Then again, Japanese culture by region, another parent, consistently uses of, such as {{C|Culture of the Kantō region}}. Place Clichy (talk) 08:34, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
• Keep It is the others that should be renamed, as non-Japanese counterparts such as :Category:Culture of Ireland use of as well. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:41, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} 18:52, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Wikipedians who like the SCP Foundation}}

:Nominator's rationale: Unencyclopedic social networking. We already have the properly named (but IMO still of questionably value) :Category:Wikipedians who contribute to the SCP Foundation, and definitely don't need two categories. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 14:57, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Questions? four OLIfanofmrtennant (she/her) 04:58, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:16, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
• Delete per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:22, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster^talk 13:46, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Wikipedians who made mentions of Among Us prohibited on pages about Greek mythology}}

:Nominator's rationale: Patent nonsense. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 14:57, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:18, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Questions? four OLIfanofmrtennant (she/her) 04:59, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
• Eh... While this is patent nonsense, this was a redlink on the userpage of a somewhat-established user. CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} 18:55, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
• Comments - So I went to try to figure this out. I "think", it's referring to Among Us. But didn't see anything in their contribs around the time of its creation to indicate what it's about. And it's on the userpage of someone who apparently made more than a few redlinked cats, which were then made blue. See [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Pinoccappuccino&diff=prev&oldid=1178119053 this edit] for the mass addition of cats like as :Category:Wikipedians who enjoy cracking wise with categories, and the nominated one as well. - jc37 09:04, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} 18:55, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Kingdom of Serbia people to :Category:People from the Kingdom of Serbia

:* Propose merging :Category:Kingdom of Serbia expatriates to :Category:Expatriates from the Kingdom of Serbia

:Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category Mason (talk) 12:53, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

• Merge, very obviously. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:20, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: option A. (non-admin closure) CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} 18:57, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Option A: Propose renaming: {{Cl|Puerto Rican television presenters}} to {{Cl|Puerto Rican television hosts}}

:* Option B: Propose renaming: {{Cl|Puerto Rican television hosts}} to {{Cl|Puerto Rican television presenters}}

: Nominator's rationale: From the introduction of article Television presenter (redirected from {{noredirect|Television host}}), it seems that these terms are used one for the other. I guess this is an WP:ENGVAR issue. Out of {{Cl|Television presenters by nationality}}, the majority use presenters but some use hosts, including {{Cl|American television hosts}}. Puerto Rico seems to be the only place with two concurrent categories. I would bend towards option A per the parent American category, and hosts is an older category where most of the content actually is, which is IMHO that this is a usage compatible with Puerto Rico. Place Clichy (talk) 10:42, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

• Option A per nom. This is indeed an ENGVAR issue: what much of the world would call a television "presenter", North American English speakers call a television "host", so they're just different words for the same job rather than different things. So there's no pressing need for two separate categories here — and although Puerto Rico isn't a principally English-speaking area, it is a territory of the United States rather than a fully independent country in its own right, and should thus remain in line with the American "hosts". But "presenters" should remain in place as a redirect to catch any future mistakes around this, as the parent {{cl|American television hosts}} also already has. Bearcat (talk) 14:05, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
• Option A per nom and also how Bearcat explained. Keep "presenter" as a redirect... --The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 04:19, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} 18:58, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sinhalese dentists}} to {{Cl|Sinhalese people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan dentists}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sri Lankan Moor engineers}} to {{Cl|Sri Lankan Moors}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan engineers}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sinhalese engineers}} to {{Cl|Sinhalese people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan engineers}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Indian Tamil engineers of Sri Lanka}} to {{Cl|Indian Tamils of Sri Lanka}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan engineers}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil engineers}} to {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan engineers}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil civil engineers}} to {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan civil engineers}}

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:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil electrical engineers}} to {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan electrical engineers}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil mechanical engineers}} to {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan mechanical engineers}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sri Lankan Moor physicians}} to {{Cl|Sri Lankan Moors}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan medical doctors}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sinhalese physicians}} to {{Cl|Sinhalese people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan medical doctors}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil physicians}} to {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan medical doctors}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Burgher judges}} to {{Cl|Burgher people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan judges}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sri Lankan Chetty judges}} to {{Cl|Sri Lankan Chetties }} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan judges}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sinhalese judges}} to {{Cl|Sinhalese people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan judges}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Indian Tamil judges of Sri Lanka}} to {{Cl|Indian Tamils of Sri Lanka}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan judges}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil judges}} to {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan judges}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Burgher lawyers}} to {{Cl|Burgher people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan lawyers}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sri Lankan Chetty lawyers}} to {{Cl|Sri Lankan Chetties }} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan lawyers}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sri Lankan Moor lawyers}} to {{Cl|Sri Lankan Moors}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan lawyers}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sinhalese lawyers}} to {{Cl|Sinhalese people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan lawyers}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Indian Tamil lawyers of Sri Lanka}} to {{Cl|Indian Tamils of Sri Lanka}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan lawyers}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil lawyers}} to {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan lawyers}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sri Lankan Moor scientists}} to {{Cl|Sri Lankan Moors}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan scientists}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sinhalese scientists}} to {{Cl|Sinhalese people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan scientists}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil scientists}} to {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan scientists}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil anthropologists}} to {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan anthropologists}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sinhalese archaeologists}} to {{Cl|Sinhalese people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan archaeologists}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil astronomers}} to {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan astronomers}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sinhalese biologists}} to {{Cl|Sinhalese people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan biologists}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil biologists}} to {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan biologists}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil biochemists}} to {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan biochemists}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sinhalese zoologists}} to {{Cl|Sinhalese people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan zoologists}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil zoologists}} to {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan zoologists}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sinhalese chemists}} to {{Cl|Sinhalese people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan chemists}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil chemists}} to {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan chemists}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sinhalese physicists}} to {{Cl|Sinhalese people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan physicists}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil physicists}} to {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan physicists}}

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:Nominator's rationale: Following previous discussions (1 and 2) and the discussion below, here is another set of occupations for which I do not see any obvious merit in ethnic-based categorization, per WP:EGRS/I. {{Re|LaundryPizza03|Qwerfjkl|Marcocapelle|RevelationDirect|William Allen Simpson}} pinging participants to previous discussion. Place Clichy (talk) 09:39, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

::@Place Clichy no need to ping me in any of these, I just closed the discussion. Qwerfjkltalk 09:45, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

:::Support. per nom Mason (talk) 11:59, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

• Merge, I can't see why any of these occupations would be related to ethnicity. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:58, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
• Merge all per WP:OCEGRS. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:36, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} 19:00, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Indian Tamil film producers of Sri Lanka}} to {{Cl|Indian Tamils of Sri Lanka}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan film producers}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil film producers}} to {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan film producers}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil film directors}} to {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan film directors}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil broadcasters}} to {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan broadcasters}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil radio personalities}} to {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan radio personalities}}

:* Propose merging {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil publishers (people)}} to {{Cl|Sri Lankan Tamil people}} and {{Cl|Sri Lankan publishers (people)}}

:Nominator's rationale: Follow-up to this discussion and this discussion. Trivial intersections per WP:EGRS/I Place Clichy (talk) 00:14, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

:: {{Re|LaundryPizza03|Qwerfjkl|Marcocapelle|RevelationDirect|William Allen Simpson}} pinging participants to previous discussion. Place Clichy (talk) 01:42, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

::Support per WP:OCEGRS. Some are also WP:NARROWCAT by nature of being a triple intersection (Tamils + Sri Lankans + occupation). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:15, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:38, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
• :Merge/support per nom. Mason (talk) 11:55, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

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