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= February 2 =

== Category:Geography of the United States by populated place ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster (talk · he/him) 00:08, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Geography of the United States by city}} to :Category:Geography of the United States by populated place

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Geography of the United States by town}} to :Category:Geography of the United States by populated place

:Nominator's rationale: Not a useful way to divide geography of populated places in the US. Geography is not affected by the legal definition (city, town, village, etc.) of a place. Merge both to :Category:Geography of the United States by populated place –Aidan721 (talk) 23:20, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Merge per nom, and per recent precedent to move cities, towns and villages to populated places. There are only a few towns subcategories anyway. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:49, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
:Support per nom Mason (talk) 06:03, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

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==Category:University of Pennsylvania Graduate Division School of Arts & Sciences alumni==

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== Category:Armorials of Russia ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster (talk · he/him) 00:08, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Armorials of Russia to :Category:Russian coats of arms

:Nominator's rationale: Per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 25#Category:Armorials of the Netherlands, in which this was listed but never tagged or processed. . * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:46, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Merge per previous discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:50, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Armorials of Finland ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) House Blaster (talk · he/him) 00:08, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Armorials of Finland}}

:Nominator's rationale: Per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 25#Category:Armorials of the Netherlands, in which this was listed but never tagged or processed. The sole entry is already in all relevant parents so a merge is not needed. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:46, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Delete per previous discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:50, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
Delete per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:34, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Franklin Athletic Club football seasons ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:09, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Franklin Athletic Club football seasons to :Category:Athletic Club football teams and seasons

:Nominator's rationale: Only one page in category Let'srun (talk) 02:58, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

{{ping|Let'srun}} which Athletic Club does the target refer to? We only have Athletic club as a disambiguation page. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:01, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
:Franklin Athletic Club Let'srun (talk) 00:37, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
:* {{ping|Let'srun}} you may have misunderstood my question. Obviously :Category:Franklin Athletic Club football seasons refers to Franklin Athletic Club, but which Athletic Club does :Category:Athletic Club football teams and seasons refer to? Did it exist at all? Marcocapelle (talk) 07:46, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
::I share the same skepticism as Marcocapelle. :Category:Athletic Club football teams and seasons seems to be a miscellaneous category of teams. What is Athletic Club football? –Aidan721 (talk) 17:29, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
::: {{Cl|Athletic Club football teams and seasons}} is indeed weird, and the capitalization is confusing. Parent {{Cl|Athletics clubs in the United States}} (uncapitalized) seems to indicate that this is just synonymous with sports club, in which case the former category seems to have been created with the intent of gathering clubs named Athletic Club but who have nothing in common (WP:SHAREDNAME). I suggest splitting {{Cl|Athletic Club football teams and seasons}} between {{Cl|American football team seasons}}/{{Cl|College football seasons by team}} and {{Cl|Athletic clubs in the United States}}/{{Cl|Sports clubs and teams in the United States}}. Some of the Athletic Clubs in this category don't apparently have anything to do with football, e.g. {{diff2|959275712|Detroit Athletic Club}}. Place Clichy (talk) 02:16, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
:::: :Category:Athletic Club football teams and seasons is definitely a messy category. The C in club should certainly not be capitalized. Also it's a messy grouping of articles about athletic clubs that played football and articles about specific seasons played by such clubs. Jweiss11 (talk) 17:58, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
::::: Maybe Deleting with WP:TNT is an option, then, unless a good Samaritan volunteers to review the football- and non-football-related content and spread them among the possible target categories, of which I already listed 4. We can assume that articles are already somewhere under {{Cl|Sports clubs and teams in the United States by state}}. Place Clichy (talk) 21:49, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

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The target is now discussed at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_February_1#Category:Athletic_Club_football_teams_and_seasons. If it is deleted then this discussion changes from merge to delete. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:52, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
Delete unless the target is kept. If so, merge as nominated. –Aidan721 (talk) 02:25, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Noblesville Athletic Club football seasons ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:09, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Noblesville Athletic Club football seasons to :Category:Athletic Club football teams and seasons

:Nominator's rationale: Only one page in category Let'srun (talk) 02:58, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Which Athletic Club does the target refer to? We only have Athletic club as a disambiguation page. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:45, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
:It doesn't to any specific one, from my understanding. Let'srun (talk) 21:31, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

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The target is now discussed at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_February_1#Category:Athletic_Club_football_teams_and_seasons. If it is deleted then this discussion changes from merge to delete. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:52, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
Delete unless the target is kept. If so, merge as nominated. –Aidan721 (talk) 02:26, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Partial satellite launch failures ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename to :Category:Satellite launch anomalies. (non-admin closure) House Blaster (talk · he/him) 00:44, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Partial satellite launch failures to :Category:Satellite launch partial failures

:Nominator's rationale: This is for partial failures among satellite launches. Parent is :Category:Satellite launch failures. I am open to other suggestions. – Fayenatic London 21:52, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

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{{ping|Fayenatic london}} a few articles refer to a launch "anomaly" so we might rename the category to :Category:Satellite launch anomalies. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:44, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
No objection to this alternative. In that case we should use "see also" links in both directions rather than parenting in :Category:Satellite launch failures. – Fayenatic London 11:48, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
support either :Category:Satellite launch anomalies Or :Category:Satellite launch partial successes. (sdsds - talk) 02:22, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

::See also the list of 262 transclusions at Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Partial_failure. These are potential candidates for this category. (sdsds - talk) 02:36, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Medieval European scribes ==

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:The result of the discussion was: No consensus * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:26, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Medieval European scribes to :Category:Medieval scribes

:Nominator's rationale: There's no need to narrow this category to only European scribes. The sibling category, ":Category:Ancient scribes" doesn't constrain themselves to a single continent. Mason (talk) 01:47, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

:::::In fact :Category:Ancient scribes contains only Egyptian, Greek and Near-Eastern subcats, so is "constrained" to the Mediterranean. Johnbod (talk) 18:15, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

::::::It isn't constrained, someone could still be added to the main category of Ancient scribe if they were from somewhere outside the mediterranean. But "Medieval European scribe", does not allow someone from medieval egypt to be added. Mason (talk) 02:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

:Oppose They are in fact all European, & there is no harm in helping the reader by saying so. Other traditions are in the extensive tree under :Category:Medieval calligraphers. Btw, the Irish ones (nearly all authors who wrote out their own books) represent about 50% of 80-odd in the category, & should have their own sub-cat. Johnbod (talk) 03:55, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

::But is european+medieval scribe a meaningful intersection? I don't see how it helps readers to exclude non-european medieval scribes. Mason (talk) 19:43, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

:::One might drop the "medieval", as there are no "scribes" in Europe after the Renaissance, and "medieval" is not a term that works or is used for eg East Asia. Or one might drop "European" for that reason, but hoiw does that help anyone? The current category is a useful definition of a distinct tradition & function. Johnbod (talk) 18:12, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

:::Which scribes are being excluded? I see :Category:Calligraphers of the medieval Islamic world, which could possibly contain articles that would fit "Medieval scribes". Those ones, at least, seem pretty discoverable where they are. Are there others? -- asilvering (talk) 01:35, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Just delete, per WP:OVERLAPCAT, articles are already in a more specific branch of the tree of :Category:Medieval writers or in :Category:Medieval calligraphers. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:27, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
Nonsense - scribes should not be in a "writers" category at all, unless they clearly did both (as authors or translators), which very many did not. I don't think you actually looked at :Category:Medieval calligraphers; it consists entirely of by-century subcats, each containing only a Chinese, Japanese and Korean sub-cat. So there is no OVERLAP at all with this category! Johnbod (talk) 18:12, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
{{ping|Johnbod}} I am not sure why writers should be limited to authors and translators. According to whom? The articles of this category just factually are in another writers subcategory, so apparently there is consensus that scribes is also a subset of writers. With respect to calligraphers, I found David Aubert in :Category:Medieval European scribes but he was not yet in the :Category:Medieval calligraphers tree, I added this article there just now. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:01, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
And I reverted you! You didn't even put him in a century sub-cat! He was left as the only entry outside one, and the only European in that whole tree. What RS do you have that call him a calligrapher? It is not a term used of Medieval European scribes, hence the diffferent categories. The aim of medieval scribing was to produce a clear and accurate text in a variety of very tightly-defined scripts; once printed type could do this more reliably the scribing industry mostly vanished at the top end, just leaving scriveners for legal work etc. This is very different from other cultures where artistic calligraphy was and is pursued. It is clear from the cats above that the "writers" tree is for authors, to which the many translators can be added - Aubert was a translator and adapter of texts, so he is rightly there. Johnbod (talk) 19:47, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
Comment. Speaking as a topic expert here, I find little to disagree with in Johnbod's comments. Scribes are not necessarily calligraphers, and they are certainly not usefully categorized as "writers". We could change the category to "Medieval scribes" broadly; this is how many works in the field describe them. But these works omit "European" typically because it is assumed, not because they mean to include scribes who were not European. We could use the term most often used in palaeography ("Latin"), but I believe this will be unhelpfully confusing to the typical Wikipedia user. -- asilvering (talk) 01:31, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

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Why relist this? There are no supports at all, apart from the nom, and he seems less sure of his case now. Johnbod (talk) 04:46, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

:* {{ping|Johnbod}} when I wrote "I am not sure" I said I was not sure about your response. And you haven't answered my question why scribes need to be excluded from writers. "It is clear from the cats above that the "writers" tree is for authors," -> No that is not clear, in fact categories above have nothing to do with the question. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

::*I didn't mean you - you are not the nom and not supporting the proposal anyway. Authoring and copying are two very different activities - you might as well categorize scriveners and court reporters as judges. I have explained why your suggestion to delete (also with no other support) is based on more than one misunderstanding. Imo too many discussions are being rolled-over ad infinitum.asilvering, are you actually a "Keep"? Johnbod (talk) 14:56, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

::*:@Johnbod I don't particularly care either way, but I guess that's a weak keep. -- asilvering (talk) 15:44, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

::::I guess you are - thanks! Caring is optional at Cfd. Johnbod (talk) 15:50, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

:::::Please don't misgender me. @Johnbod. And I don't understand what your opposition is to making the category broader.Mason (talk) 20:50, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

::Delete per Marco. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:19, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

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::What, again! @Qwerfjkl - why? 16 days and not a single support. 2 keeps and 2 deletes. That's a very clear no consensus. Johnbod (talk) 04:36, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:19th-century Kazakhstani people ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Merge to :Category:Kazakh people from the Russian Empire * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:13, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:19th-century Kazakhstani people to :Category:Ethnic Kazakh people from the Russian Empire

:Nominator's rationale: merge, largely overlapping categories, and Khazakstan did not exist yet. The category does not contain articles about Kazakh people before the Russian Empire ruled the area. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:08, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Alt rename/merge to :Category:Kazakh people from the Russian Empire, as for siblings in :Category:People from the Russian Empire by ethnic or national origin. Note that Kazakh refers to the ethnicity, while Kazakhstani refers to people from Kazakhstan regardless of ethnicity. Place Clichy (talk) 01:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

:* For renaming the target (which I agree with) see follow-up nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:39, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

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Comment: the discussion about the target category closed. The decision was: rename to :Category:Kazakh people from the Russian Empire. Hence it seems that we converge towards a merge there. Place Clichy (talk) 19:40, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Firelighting using electricity ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Merge all to :Category:Firelighting (which was renamed to :Category:Fire making while this discussion was open) * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:13, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Firelighting using electricity}}

:Nominator's rationale: best to treat these as an article. And I am usually pro-categories!!n. 121.98.204.148 (talk) 23:48, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Merge this category in addition to :Category:Firelighting using friction and :Category:Firelighting using percussion to :Category:Firelighting. They seem like WP:NARROWCATs for an otherwise small topic. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:28, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
:@Zxcvbnm, could you tag those cats and and them here? Qwerfjkl talk 21:40, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:19th-century mayors of places in Oklahoma ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename as nominated, no consensus to delete :Category:19th-century Oklahoma politicians (without prejudice to a new nomination focusing solely on deleting it). * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:13, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:19th-century mayors of places in Oklahoma to :Category:19th-century mayors of places in Indian Territory

:Nominator's rationale: Oklahoma did not exist before 1907 so there are no 19th century mayors of places in Oklahoma. There are 19th-century mayors of places in Oklahoma Territory and Indian Territory TulsaPoliticsFan (talk) 00:06, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

:Support, and its parent category :Category:19th-century Oklahoma politicians should be considered for renaming for the same rationale.--TommyBoy (talk) 22:16, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Support per nom. And tagging :Category:19th-century Oklahoma politicians below per TommyBoy.

:* Propose renaming :Category:19th-century Oklahoma politicians to :Category:19th-century Indian Territory politicians –Aidan721 (talk) 14:28, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

:** Support original nom, keeping a redirect, but delete :Category:19th-century Oklahoma politicians and its parent :Category:19th-century American politicians by state or territory as unnecessary layers. The mayors category has two other suitable parents about mayors. – Fayenatic London 16:06, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

:** I note that :Category:Republic of Hawaii politicians has been added – they were C19, but not (yet) American. So still delete that parent. – Fayenatic London 11:03, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_January_29#Category:19th-century_people_from_Oklahoma. – Fayenatic London 15:20, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

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::Comment. I oppose deleting the 19th-century American politicians by state or territory helps. It has enough categories in it. I am neutral on the rest of it. Mason (talk) 02:45, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Phytogeographers ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Manual merge ({{ping|Smasongarrison}}) * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:13, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:British phytogeographers}} to :Category:Phytogeographers and :Category:British botanists and :Category:British geographers

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:French phytogeographers}} to :Category:Phytogeographers and :Category:French geographers and :Category:French botanists

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:Chilean phytogeographers}} to :Category:Phytogeographers and :Category:Chilean botanists and :Category:Chilean geographers

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:Russian phytogeographers}} to :Category:Phytogeographers and :Category:Russian geographers and :Category:Russian botanists

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:Dutch phytogeographers}} to :Category:Phytogeographers and :Category:Dutch botanists and :Category:Dutch geographers

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:Swiss phytogeographers}} to :Category:Phytogeographers and :Category:Swiss geographers and :Category:Swiss botanists

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:Brazilian phytogeographers}} to :Category:Phytogeographers and :Category:Brazilian geographers and :Category:Brazilian botanists

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. These are small categories that doesn't need to be diffused by nationality, yet. Mason (talk) 02:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Merge per nom, to the first two targets. "Geographer" does not seem very applicable to many articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:13, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
:From what I understand, this category is a grandchild of Geographers by specialty, so perhaps manual merge to geographers, when appriopriate? Mason (talk) 23:12, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

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:* {{ping|Smasongarrison}} I don't have an objection to a manual merge. When the discussion is closed would you be willing to check to which articles "geographers" is applicable? Marcocapelle (talk) 17:05, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
:*:I can do that. (Can whoever closes ping me to remind me to do it?) Mason (talk) 17:10, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Establishment category Indian state ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename Uncontested for two weeks * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:13, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:EstcatIndiastate tracking categories}} to :Category:Establishment category Indian state tracking categories

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:EstcatIndiastate where PAGESINCATEGORY returns zero}} to :Category:Establishment category Indian state where PAGESINCATEGORY returns zero

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:EstcatIndiastate with 1 page}} to :Category:Establishment category Indian state with 1 page

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:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:EstcatIndiastate with more than 50 pages}} to :Category:Establishment category Indian state with more than 50 pages

:Nominator's rationale: To match {{t|establishment category Indian state}} (which for transparency I WP:BOLDMOVE'd to its current location from {{tl-r|estcatIndiastate}} per WP:TPN; that is also why I am avoiding WP:C2D). House Blaster (talk · he/him) 02:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:French Quebecers ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:28, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|French Quebecers}}

:Nominator's rationale: French Quebecers constitute the vast majority of Quebec residents and have since the first settlers arrived in the 17th-century. As such, this category fails WP:EGRS. Moreover, most of those in this category have no claim to French ancestry in their biography and have been placed in it without evidence, making it a major problem for WP:BLPCAT. User:Namiba 16:45, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Delete per nom. Probably the same applies to parent :Category:Francophone Quebec people. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:08, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
Comment French Quebecers are Quebecers who are not Quebecois, but originate more recently from France, thus are not ethnic Quebecois. It should be so scoped, and cleared of pure-laine[https://ici.radio-canada.ca/ohdio/premiere/emissions/la-nature-selon-boucar/segments/chronique/34169/expression-pure-laine-serge-bouchard][https://www.rodmcqueen.com/2022/06/the-real-meaning-of-pur-laine/], de-souche[https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/11/13/un-quebecois-de-souche-cest-quoi][https://montrealgazette.com/opinion/columnists/lise-ravary-quebecois-de-souche-is-not-a-racist-term][https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/french-english/de-souche], who are desceneded from the pre-British conquest with roots in Quebec prior to 1760. Any person descended from France that arrived after 1760 would appear in this category, those who have roots older that this would be removed -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 07:51, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Keep and change according to IP above JM (talk) 23:53, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

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I may have misunderstood the purpose of the category but then I would like to see sources that support this specific meaning of the term. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:37, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Comment: I note that there is no {{cl|Québécois people}} or similar, so if they are not intended for this category, I don't know where they're meant to be... Grutness...wha? 10:42, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

:::Note, we already have :Category:Quebecers of French descent. Anyone with demonstrably French descent can be placed there. There is no purpose for this category otherwise.--User:Namiba 14:44, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

::::This whole tree is problematic. This is the (incorrect, IMO) description of :Category:Quebecers of French descent: "This category lists Quebecers of French descent who are not francophone or whose first language is unclear. For Quebecers who known to be francophone see :Category:French Quebecers."--User:Namiba 14:47, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Delete per nom. It is useless to categorize members of the dominant ethnicity in a place. The difference cited above for recent arrivals from France is reflected by :Category:French emigrants to Quebec. Place Clichy (talk) 14:19, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
: That's not the same, since it doesn't include the descendants of the immigrants to Quebec that would be in that indicated category -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 19:19, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
:: I'm sorry, I just don't get this comment. Note that {{noredirect|French Quebecer}} redirects to disambiguation page Québécois. So either term can refer to, depending on context, any of the following:
::* all people of all Québec
::* people of Québec City
::* the dominant ethnic group associated with descent from the early French settlers
::* 20th- or 21st-century moves from France
::* descendants of the former
:: The IP wrote above that {{tq|French Quebecers are Quebecers who are not Quebecois, but originate more recently from France, thus are not ethnic Quebecois}}. This contradicts the current 3,500+ articles in the category, which are mostly Québécois people with no recent link to immigration from France. Descendants of recent migrants from France who were born and grew up in Québec are not distinguishable from the Québec majority.
:: There's no logic to any of it, and as a result people from that group are scattered inconsistently between several categories. Québec people clearly would benefit more from other categorization schemes such as {{C|People by populated place in Quebec}} or {{C|People from Quebec by occupation}} that this pseudo-ethnic category. Place Clichy (talk) 14:01, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Education by city or town ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) House Blaster (talk · he/him) 00:53, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Education by city or town}} to :Category:Education by populated place

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Education by country and city}} to :Category:Education by country and populated place

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Schools by country and city}} to :Category:Schools by country and populated place

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Universities and colleges by country and city}} to :Category:Universities and colleges by country and populated place

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Universities by country and city}} to :Category:Universities by country and populated place

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Educational buildings by city}} to :Category:Educational buildings by populated place

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Educational organizations by city}} to :Category:Educational organizations by populated place

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Educational institutions by city}} to :Category:Educational institutions by populated place

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Academic institutions by city}} to :Category:Academic institutions by populated place

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Research institutes by city}} to :Category:Research institutes by populated place

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Universities and colleges by city}} to :Category:Universities and colleges by populated place

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Colleges by city}} to :Category:Colleges by populated place

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Universities by city}} to :Category:Universities by populated place

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Lists of universities and colleges by city}} to :Category:Lists of universities and colleges by populated place

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Schools by city}} to :Category:Schools by populated place

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:High schools by city}} to :Category:High schools by populated place

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:International schools by city}} to :Category:International schools by populated place

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Libraries by city}} to :Category:Libraries by populated place

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Museums by city}} to :Category:Museums by populated place

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Museums by country and city}} to :Category:Museums by country and populated place

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Art museums and galleries by city}} to :Category:Art museums and galleries by populated place

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:History museums by city}} to :Category:History museums by populated place

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Lists of museums by city}} to :Category:Lists of museums by populated place

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Zoos by city}} to :Category:Zoos by populated place

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Educators by city}} to :Category:Educators by populated place

:Nominator's rationale: "Populated place" is more consistent and inclusive. I intend the applicable sub-categories to be speedied if renamed. Here are some precedents that support this rename:

Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_January_18#Category:Educators_by_nationality_and_city
Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_16#Category:Categories_by_town_or_city –Aidan721 (talk) 17:51, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
Rename per precedent. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:06, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
:Support per nom :) Mason (talk) 17:10, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Sears ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename to :Category:Sears (department store) * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:13, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Sears to :Category:Sears Holdings

:Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category, where the only two pages in the newer category could be linked instead of siloed. Mason (talk) 05:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose as Sears and Sears Holdings are not the same thing. Sears is a chain of retail stores (+catalogs +e-commerce), as is/was Kmart. Sears Holdings was a corporate structure that held the two chains. Sears stores are now mostly operated by either Grupo Sanborns (90+ stores in Mexico), Transformco (US) and Sears de Guatemala. Kmart stores are now entirely under Transformco. We need to distinguish between Sears as a brand and chain, which should hold most of the content, versus Sears Holdings, which should be limited to holding Sears, Kmart, and any holding company-related articles. Keizers (talk) 14:10, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
:Ok... so how would you feel about renaming Category:Sears to Category:Sears (brand) to help make that distinction clearer? I also think that a concise description in the category page would be extremely helpful. Mason (talk) 23:10, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
::I'm not crazy about it, because really, it's about the Sears stores and catalog, not so much the brand (I mean, I understand that it's a brand that is franchised to Transformco, Grupo Sanborns and Homemart, S.A. for Guatemala), but people might understand to be consumer brands like Kenmore, Craftsman, etc. Maybe Sears (department store)? Keizers (talk) 00:15, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
:::Sears (department store) sounds like a good suggestion to me. Then the categories would be more clearly distinguished, and that should help make it clear that the categories are distinct. Mason (talk) 17:14, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Development of individual fictional characters ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename to :Category:Development of specific works * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:30, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Development of individual fictional characters}}

:Nominator's rationale: Not sure how many articles used to be here, but a single article does not a category make. This should probably be removed as it is no longer relevant. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:45, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

::Merge into :Category:Development of specific works - I found one additional article for this category (Development of Bugs Bunny). However, that would still be too small of a category. Creating this category, however, would allow it to contain other articles such as Development of the DC Extended Universe, as well as allow it to be a parent to both :Category:Production of specific films and :Category:Development of specific video games. (Oinkers42) (talk) 18:47, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Countesses of Barcelona ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Purge * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:30, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose splitting :Category:Countesses of Barcelona to :Category:Spanish countesses and :Category:People from the County of Barcelona

:Nominator's rationale: Non-defining. This category "lists the Countess consorts of the County of Barcelona, for the regnant Countess of Barcelona see: Category:Counts of Barcelona." Mason (talk) 01:28, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

At least purge. Most articles are about queens of Aragon. Just keep the articles from the earlier period when Barcelona was fully independent. If merged, only to :Category:People from the County of Barcelona, the other target would be anachronistic. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:09, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

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Keep, but purge of Queens of Aragon and Spain. An explanatory head-note is enough for these. When Catalonia was independent, the title was highly defining. Note that they are not usually :Category:People from the County of Barcelona anyway. I suppose Princess María de las Mercedes of Bourbon-Two Sicilies is ok. Johnbod (talk) 18:14, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

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== LGBT people by sexual orientation and nationality ==

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:The result of the discussion was: implement the alt merge proposal. (non-admin closure) House Blaster (talk · he/him) 00:51, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

::* Propose renaming:

:* :Category:American LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:American LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Argentine LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Argentine LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Australian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Australian LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Austrian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Austrian LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Belgian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Belgian LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Bolivian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Bolivian LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Brazilian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Brazilian LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:British LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:British LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Bulgarian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Bulgarian LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Burmese LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Burmese LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Canadian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Canadian LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Chilean LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Chilean LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Chinese LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Chinese LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Colombian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Colombian LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Croatian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Croatian LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Cuban LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Cuban LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Danish LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Danish LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Dominican Republic LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Dominican Republic LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Dutch LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Dutch LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:English LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:English LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Estonian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Estonian LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Filipino LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Filipino LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Finnish LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Finnish LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:French LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:French LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:German LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:German LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Hong Kong LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Hong Kong LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Hungarian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Hungarian LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Indian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Indian LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Iranian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Iranian LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Irish LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Irish LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Israeli LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Israeli LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Italian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Italian LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Jamaican LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Jamaican LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Japanese LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Japanese LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Mexican LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Mexican LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:New Zealand LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:New Zealand LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Nigerian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Nigerian LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:LGBT people from Northern Ireland by sexual orientation to :Category:LGBT people from Northern Ireland by identity

:* :Category:Norwegian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Norwegian LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Peruvian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Peruvian LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Polish LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Polish LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Portuguese LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Portuguese LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Puerto Rican LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Puerto Rican LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Romanian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Romanian LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Russian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Russian LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Scottish LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Scottish LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Singaporean LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Singaporean LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:South African LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:South African LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:South Korean LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:South Korean LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Spanish LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Spanish LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Sri Lankan LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Sri Lankan LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Swedish LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Swedish LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Swiss LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Swiss LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Taiwanese LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Taiwanese LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Turkish LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Turkish LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Ukrainian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Ukrainian LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Uruguayan LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Uruguayan LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Venezuelan LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Venezuelan LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Vietnamese LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Vietnamese LGBT people by identity

:* :Category:Welsh LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Welsh LGBT people by identity

:Nominator's rationale: rename, I am proposing changing this category name to include transgender, non-binary and intersex people in this category. Giovanni 0331 (talk) 19:22, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose. Merge and delete instead. Several recent CfDs have reached the consensus that these interleaving “by identity”, “by gender identity”, or “by sexual orientation” category layers are unhelpful, and we have been in the process of getting rid of them. It is much simpler and clearer to have all the LGBTQ+ identity subcategories directly in the parent category, grouped under a sort key. (See :Category:LGBT people by religion for an example.)--Trystan (talk) 22:37, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

:*Just to clarify, the alt merge proposal below is exactly what I had in mind.--Trystan (talk) 17:37, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Upmerge all, "by identity" is too vague and one would expect the subcategories to be in the parent category anyway. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
:Upmerge all per above replies. Omnis Scientia (talk) 07:44, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

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Below is the alt merge proposal. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:02, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

:* :Category:American LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:American LGBT people

:* :Category:Argentine LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Argentine LGBT people

:* :Category:Australian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Australian LGBT people

:* :Category:Austrian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Austrian LGBT people

:* :Category:Belgian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Belgian LGBT people

:* :Category:Bolivian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Bolivian LGBT people

:* :Category:Brazilian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Brazilian LGBT people

:* :Category:British LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:British LGBT people

:* :Category:Bulgarian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Bulgarian LGBT people

:* :Category:Burmese LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Burmese LGBT people

:* :Category:Canadian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Canadian LGBT people

:* :Category:Chilean LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Chilean LGBT people

:* :Category:Chinese LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Chinese LGBT people

:* :Category:Colombian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Colombian LGBT people

:* :Category:Croatian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Croatian LGBT people

:* :Category:Cuban LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Cuban LGBT people

:* :Category:Danish LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Danish LGBT people

:* :Category:Dominican Republic LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Dominican Republic LGBT people

:* :Category:Dutch LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Dutch LGBT people

:* :Category:English LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:English LGBT people

:* :Category:Estonian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Estonian LGBT people

:* :Category:Filipino LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Filipino LGBT people

:* :Category:Finnish LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Finnish LGBT people

:* :Category:French LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:French LGBT people

:* :Category:German LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:German LGBT people

:* :Category:Hong Kong LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Hong Kong LGBT people

:* :Category:Hungarian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Hungarian LGBT people

:* :Category:Indian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Indian LGBT people

:* :Category:Iranian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Iranian LGBT people

:* :Category:Irish LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Irish LGBT people

:* :Category:Israeli LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Israeli LGBT people

:* :Category:Italian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Italian LGBT people

:* :Category:Jamaican LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Jamaican LGBT people

:* :Category:Japanese LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Japanese LGBT people

:* :Category:Mexican LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Mexican LGBT people

:* :Category:New Zealand LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:New Zealand LGBT people

:* :Category:Nigerian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Nigerian LGBT people

:* :Category:LGBT people from Northern Ireland by sexual orientation to :Category:LGBT people from Northern Ireland

:* :Category:Norwegian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Norwegian LGBT people

:* :Category:Peruvian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Peruvian LGBT people

:* :Category:Polish LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Polish LGBT people

:* :Category:Portuguese LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Portuguese LGBT people

:* :Category:Puerto Rican LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Puerto Rican LGBT people

:* :Category:Romanian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Romanian LGBT people

:* :Category:Russian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Russian LGBT people

:* :Category:Scottish LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Scottish LGBT people

:* :Category:Singaporean LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Singaporean LGBT people

:* :Category:South African LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:South African LGBT people

:* :Category:South Korean LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:South Korean LGBT people

:* :Category:Spanish LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Spanish LGBT people

:* :Category:Sri Lankan LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Sri Lankan LGBT people

:* :Category:Swedish LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Swedish LGBT people

:* :Category:Swiss LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Swiss LGBT people

:* :Category:Taiwanese LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Taiwanese LGBT people

:* :Category:Turkish LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Turkish LGBT people

:* :Category:Ukrainian LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Ukrainian LGBT people

:* :Category:Uruguayan LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Uruguayan LGBT people

:* :Category:Venezuelan LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Venezuelan LGBT people

:* :Category:Vietnamese LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Vietnamese LGBT people

:* :Category:Welsh LGBT people by sexual orientation to :Category:Welsh LGBT people

Support alt merge. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:51, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
:I'd support the alt merge. I think that using identity has some potential problematic implications, such as identity implying that orientation is a choice among other things. Mason (talk) 17:17, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Kirksville Osteopaths football seasons ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Keep * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:13, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Kirksville Osteopaths football seasons}}

:Nominator's rationale: Only 1 page in category. Let'srun (talk) 20:36, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

:: Keep. This was a 30-year college football program; there will be more seasons that are notable and will be created in the future; there is also an accepted categorization scheme that all college football teams with seasons should have categories. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:51, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

:::"potential for growth" is no longer a valid reason to keep. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:09, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

:::And WP:CFB does not make the rules of WP:Categorization. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:10, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

:::: What part of that page, specifically, does this violate? BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:25, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

::Delete for now. Omnis Scientia (talk) 08:53, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Delete for now per nom, without objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:35, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
{{strikethrough|Delete}} Merge for now {{strikethrough|per nom}} to :Category:Kirksville Osteopaths football. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

:* Amended my response to a merger. –Aidan721 (talk) 05:43, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Keep per BeanieFan11. If "potential for growth" is no longer a valid, then that policy needs to change. Jweiss11 (talk) 00:00, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
:No. WP:SMALLCAT is no longer backed by community consensus. The category can be recreated when a sufficient number of articles exist. For now, it must be merged (see my revision above). –Aidan721 (talk) 05:45, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
Note this category now contains two articles. Jweiss11 (talk) 02:00, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

:* This category now contains three articles. Is that enough to withdraw the nomination? Jweiss11 (talk) 16:21, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

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I am also ok with the merge as proposed by Aidan721. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:09, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
How many articles do you think are necessary for a category? BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:23, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
Traditionally editors here mention a minimum of five. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:31, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
{{ping|Jweiss11}} and {{ping|Cbl62}} Would either of you be willing to do one or two more articles on notable Kirksville seasons? BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:27, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

::::: Did they have any perfect seasons or seasons with some other extraordinary feature. For smaller programs like the Osteopaths, I've been limiting my season creation work of late to seasons of clear, lasting sigificance. Cbl62 (talk) 20:31, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

:::::: {{ping|Cbl62}} [https://web.archive.org/web/20150906081641/http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/incomplete_data/year_by_year_discontinued.php?teamid=1645 Seems] they had two undefeated years, albeit a 4–0 1912 and 1–0 1913 – they also had 6–1 seasons in 1916, 1921 and 1927. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:23, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

::::::: I created 1900 Kirksville Osteopaths football team (played Missouri) and 1921 Kirksville Osteopaths football team (played TCU). We now have five articles in the category. {{u|Let'srun}}, will you withdraw the nomination? Jweiss11 (talk) 18:54, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

:Keep as it is now appropriately populated. House Blaster (talk · he/him) 00:12, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Kirksville Osteopaths football coaches ==

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:The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) House Blaster (talk · he/him) 00:11, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Kirksville Osteopaths football coaches}}

:Nominator's rationale: Only 1 page in category Let'srun (talk) 20:37, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Shouldn't it be merged to :Category:College football coaches in the United States? Marcocapelle (talk) 22:33, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
That category is only for categories of teams' coaches. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:53, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
:That's just how it's currently used. That would be a valid reason if it were :Category:College football coaches in the United States by team. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:08, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
::Merge to :Category:College football coaches in the United States per Marco. Omnis Scientia (talk) 08:51, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
:: That wouldn't make sense; then we'd have 10,000 coach articles sorted by team, and then a random one in the container cat. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:55, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
:::That is no reason to oppose. The other categories are actively being discussed and can be discussed for merging in the future. However, I think a mass nomination would be beneficial to discussion. –Aidan721 (talk) 01:59, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
:::: Sense is absolutely a valid reason to oppose. Each of these coaches also coached other teams as well, so they'd be listed in the container cat randomly with like ten others while being one of 10,000 others in subcats. It simply makes no sense. Deletion would be more beneficial than disorder, but I still think three is enough to keep this category. BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:50, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
Merge per Marcocapelle. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:08, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Keep. Category now has 2 articles in it; part of a standard categorization scheme. Jweiss11 (talk) 00:14, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

:* Category now has 3 articles. Jweiss11 (talk) 21:25, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Keep, per Jweiss. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:55, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

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Keep Has multiple articles now. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 19:03, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Fictional tubers ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename to :Category:Fictional potatoes. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 20:55, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Fictional tubers}}

:Nominator's rationale: Only one article/subcategory here that is actually properly categorized, and they're also in another category within the same group. Unnecessarily specific category. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:58, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

::*Move to :Category:Tubers in popular culture - that should be a better name for the category. (Oinkers42) (talk) 18:48, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

::*:There is not even a :Category:Vegetables in popular culture, only a :Category:Works about plants; making one specifically for tubers would seem a little overspecific. I'd support a merge to "works about plants" though. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:51, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

::*::I mean, there is enough for a category, I just only chose that title to make it clear with Mr. Potato Head being in there. (Oinkers42) (talk) 20:09, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

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Five articles is enough to keep this as worthwhile for navigation. But "tubers" is unnecessarily wide in scope, as the contents are all about potatoes in fiction, not other tubers e.g. yam. List of fictional plants has an entry identifying Tree-of-Life as like yam, also stated in that series' main article Known Space, although the detailed section Pak_Protector#Tree-of-Life does not mention yam. Rename to :Category:Fictional potatoes. – Fayenatic London 10:47, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

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Rename to :Category:Fictional potatoes per Fayenatic london. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:31, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
Rename to :Category:Fictional potatoes per FL. House Blaster (talk · he/him) 22:08, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Druze people by nationality ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) House Blaster (talk · he/him) 00:10, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming {{Cl|American Druze}} to {{Cl|American Druze people}}

:* Propose renaming {{Cl|Argentine Druze}} to {{Cl|Argentine Druze people}}

:* Propose renaming {{Cl|Egyptian Druze}} to {{Cl|Egyptian Druze people}}

:* Propose renaming {{Cl|Israeli Druze}} to {{Cl|Israeli Druze people}}

:* Propose renaming {{Cl|Jordanian Druze}} to {{Cl|Jordanian Druze people}}

:* Propose renaming {{Cl|Lebanese Druze}} to {{Cl|Lebanese Druze people}}

:* Propose renaming {{Cl|Syrian Druze}} to {{Cl|Syrian Druze people}}

:* Propose renaming {{Cl|Venezuelan Druze}} to {{Cl|Venezuelan Druze people}}

: Nominator's rationale: the intent is to make it clearer that these categories are for individual people, and not topic categories, per WP:SEPARATE. Categories named with adjectives are always ambiguous. Place Clichy (talk) 15:08, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Rename per nom, they are clearly used as biography categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:03, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
:Support per nom and Marco Mason (talk) 02:17, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Energy industry in North Rhine-Westphalia ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) House Blaster (talk · he/him) 14:25, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting :Category:Energy industry in North Rhine-Westphalia

:* Propose deleting :Category:Power stations in North Rhine-Westphalia

:Nominator's rationale: merge, neither of the parent categories are diffused by state level. Merging is not needed, the articles already are in appropriate subcategories of :Category:Energy industry in Germany and :Category:Power stations in Germany respectively. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:22, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Delete per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 15:34, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Interdenominational Churches ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) House Blaster (talk · he/him) 14:25, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Interdenominational Churches to :Category:Christian ecumenical churches

:Nominator's rationale: As per parent category :Category:Christian ecumenical organizations Gjs238 (talk) 13:53, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Just delete, ecumenical organizations are a thing (they advocate unity or cooperation between denominations), but ecumenical churches do not exist. The two articles are about parishes which are affiliated with two denominations, they can be categorized by these two denominations. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:29, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
Delete. As I've read once on the dedicated article, interdenominational is an Evangelical Protestant denomination. Place Clichy (talk) 15:10, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
Delete as suggested above. Gjs238 (talk) 14:43, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Formula 1 (board game) ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) House Blaster (talk · he/him) 14:24, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Formula 1 (board game)}}

:Nominator's rationale: Only contains the epon page and 4 images that are used on the page. It's not helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 13:45, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:41, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Coaster games ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster (talk · he/him) 14:24, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Coaster games to :Category:Tabletop games

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one category in here which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 13:20, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Merge for now, without objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:39, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:South African people of Hispanic descent ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) House Blaster (talk · he/him) 00:10, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|South African people of Hispanic descent}}

:Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only two quite unrelated categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:57, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

~~Merge~~ Delete. Good catch! Place Clichy (talk) 10:13, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
:Support per nom Mason (talk) 13:06, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Place Clichy}} I assume you mean delete? House Blaster (talk · he/him) 14:25, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
:: {{Re|HouseBlaster}} Yes, that's probably what I meant. Place Clichy (talk) 14:50, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:South African people of West Indian descent ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to :Category:South African people of Caribbean descent. There is no consensus on Mason's additional proposal, with no prejudice against speedy renomination. (non-admin closure) House Blaster (talk · he/him) 00:49, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:South African people of West Indian descent to :Category:South African people of Caribbean descent

:Nominator's rationale: Duplicate of an older, better parented, category. Place Clichy (talk) 09:27, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:00, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
:Support per nom. And I propose renaming the following per parent Category:European people of Caribbean descent Mason (talk) 13:52, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Welsh people of West Indian descent to :Category:Welsh people of Caribbean descent

:* Propose renaming :Category:English people of West Indian descent to :Category:English people of Caribbean descent

:* Propose renaming :Category:British people of West Indian descent to :Category:British people of Caribbean descent

:** I had noticed these three too. They might be a matter of WP:ENGVAR though, I am not sure about it. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:45, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

:**: {{Re|Marcocapelle}} I believe indeed that West Indies has a specific meaning in the British context, which does not equate with the entire Caribbean region. See: British West Indies, West Indies Federation, West Indies cricket team etc. Place Clichy (talk) 15:13, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Leaning towards Oppose the rename of the latter three. West Indies is a commonly used description of the island nations of the Caribbean. I'm unaware of any sub-categories of Caribbean nations that aren't in the West Indies. Sionk (talk) 00:36, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

:*:The West Indies has serious colonial undertones, and is derived from the misconception that these were islands off the coast of India. It isn't a neutral descriptive. Per British West Indies's lead paragraph: "Before the decolonisation period in the later 1950s and 1960s, 'British West Indies' was regularly used to include all British colonies in the region as part of the British Empire. Following the independence of most of the territories from the United Kingdom, the term Commonwealth Caribbean is now used." Mason (talk) 02:19, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Names by culture ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Split * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:31, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Names by culture to :Category:Names by country

:Nominator's rationale: Based on the content these are categorized by country, not culture Mason (talk) 05:50, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Not all content is by country though. Create :Category:Names by country next to :Category:Names by culture, and possibly rename :Category:Names by culture to :Category:Names by language for the remnants. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:23, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
:Find by me, although I suspect that the subcategories by culture have similar problems Mason (talk) 13:40, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
Support. I support moving categories about names, given names and surnames to a structure based on 1°) continent/country and 2°) language, with the very few categories that cannot be associated with either (like Jewish names or Sikh names) directly in the root category. Place Clichy (talk) 19:47, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
{{ping|Place Clichy}} for clarity, which proposal do you support? (please ping on reply)House Blaster (talk · he/him) 00:36, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
: I support User:Marcocapelle's proposition above to split the current :Category:Names by culture into :Category:Names by country and :Category:Names by language. Note that this is closely associated with the ongoing discussion over :Category:Surnames by culture. Place Clichy (talk) 01:02, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Animorphs books ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) House Blaster (talk · he/him) 14:23, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Animorphs books}}

:Nominator's rationale: Almost all redirects following Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Individual articles in the Animorphs series * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 05:47, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Delete per nom, but manually add article Animorphs Chronicles to :Category:Animorphs. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:26, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:East Asian fashion ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster (talk · he/him) 14:23, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:East Asian fashion to :Category:Asian fashion

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There are only categories by country in here, (and the parent category Asian fashion by region only contains this category). It's not helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 05:42, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:28, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
Merge per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 09:48, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
Merge per nom. --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:35, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Love in Arabic literature ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) House Blaster (talk · he/him) 00:47, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Love in Arabic literature to :Category:Arabic literature

:Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection. I couldn't find any other language/literature that had a category like this Mason (talk) 04:36, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Just delete and manually move sub:Category:Arabic erotic literature under :Category:Arabic literature. The articles are already in the tree of :Category:Arabic literature. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:35, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Zoos established in 1752 ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. House Blaster (talk · he/him) 00:46, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1752}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1752 and :Category:Zoos established in the 18th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1828}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1828 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1830}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1830 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1836}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1836 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1838}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1838 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1840}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1840 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1844}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1844 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1847}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1847 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1854}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1854 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1855}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1855 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1857}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1857 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1858}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1858 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1860}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1860 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1861}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1861 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1862}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1862 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1863}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1863 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1865}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1865 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1866}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1866 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1868}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1868 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1869}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1869 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1872}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1872 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1874}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1874 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1875}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1875 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1876}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1876 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1877}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1877 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1878}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1878 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1879}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1879 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1882}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1882 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1883}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1883 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1884}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1884 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1885}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1885 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1888}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1888 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1889}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1889 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1891}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1891 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1892}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1892 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1893}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1893 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1895}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1895 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1896}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1896 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1898}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1898 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1899}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1899 and :Category:Zoos established in the 19th century

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1900}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1900 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1900s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1902}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1902 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1900s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1903}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1903 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1900s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1904}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1904 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1900s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1905}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1905 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1900s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1906}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1906 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1900s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1907}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1907 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1900s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1908}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1908 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1900s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1909}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1909 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1900s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1910}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1910 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1910s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1911}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1911 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1910s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1912}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1912 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1910s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1913}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1913 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1910s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1914}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1914 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1910s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1915}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1915 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1910s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1916}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1916 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1910s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1918}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1918 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1910s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1919}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1919 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1910s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1921}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1921 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1920s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1922}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1922 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1920s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1923}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1923 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1920s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1924}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1924 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1920s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1925}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1925 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1920s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1926}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1926 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1920s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1927}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1927 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1920s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1928}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1928 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1920s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1929}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1929 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1920s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1930}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1930 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1930s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1931}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1931 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1930s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1932}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1932 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1930s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1933}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1933 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1930s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1934}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1934 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1930s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1935}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1935 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1930s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1936}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1936 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1930s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1937}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1937 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1930s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1938}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1938 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1930s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1939}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1939 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1930s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1940}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1940 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1940s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1942}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1942 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1940s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1946}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1946 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1940s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1947}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1947 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1940s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1948}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1948 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1940s

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Zoos established in 1949}} to :Category:Educational organizations established in 1949 and :Category:Zoos established in the 1940s

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Zoos established in the 1750s}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Zoos established in the 1820s}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Zoos established in the 1830s}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Zoos established in the 1840s}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Zoos established in the 1850s}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Zoos established in the 1860s}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Zoos established in the 1870s}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Zoos established in the 1880s}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Zoos established in the 1890s}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:OCYEAR: {{tq|avoid creating a category tree of individual by year categories with very few members}}, {{tq|So for example, instead of grouping by year, group by decade. And then diffuse the by decade categories by year only when necessary}}. This tree doesn't need to be diffused by year for the nominated categories. Upmerge. –Aidan721 (talk) 01:55, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

::Support per nom Mason (talk) 04:37, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Merge per nom. "Tourist attractions established in" might have been a better merge target but that category tree does not exist at all. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:41, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
Merge as described in Nominator's rationale - chris_j_wood (talk) 10:00, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
Merge the nominated individual year categories but keep the nominated decades categories. The latter decades of the 1800s have a sufficient number of articles.--User:Namiba 15:03, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Viz Media children's picture books ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster (talk · he/him) 14:23, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Viz Media children's picture books to :Category:Viz Media

:Nominator's rationale: Only page in here is a list of books. No need for a category. I was leaning towards delete. Mason (talk) 01:51, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Merge, picture books are not diffused this way. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:48, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
Merge per nomination. Link20XX (talk) 05:58, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Senegalese books by writer ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster (talk · he/him) 14:22, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:Senegalese books by writer}} to :Category:Works by Senegalese writers and :Category:Senegalese books

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:Romanian books by writer}} to :Category:Romanian books and :Category:Works by Romanian writers

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:Moroccan books by writer}} to :Category:Moroccan books and :Category:Works by Moroccan writers

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:Libyan books by writer}} to :Category:Works by Libyan writers and :Category:Libyan books

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:Latvian books by writer}} to :Category:Works by Latvian writers and :Category:Latvian books

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:Guatemalan books by writer}} to :Category:Works by Guatemalan people and :Category:Guatemalan books

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:Dominica books by writer}} to :Category:Works by Dominica writers and :Category:Dominica books

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:Colombian books by writer}} to :Category:Works by Colombian writers and :Category:Colombian books

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:Chilean books by writer}} to :Category:Works by Chilean writers (but not :Category:Colombian books, because the category is already deeper in the tree)

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:Yemeni books by writer}} to :Category:Works by Yemeni writers and :Category:Yemeni books

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one category in each, which is unhelpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 01:05, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory each. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:50, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

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==Category:Books by Indian authors==

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== Category:Kiss of Life members ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster (talk · he/him) 14:22, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Kiss of Life members to :Category:Kiss of Life (group)

:Nominator's rationale: Per long-standing precedent for subcategories of :Category:Musicians by band when only one band/group member has an article. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 00:28, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

::Merge per nom. toobigtokale (talk) 00:24, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:56, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Nightclubs in Belfast ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:13, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Nightclubs in Belfast to :Category:Nightclubs in Northern Ireland, :Category:Music venues in Belfast, and :Category:Drinking establishments in Belfast

:* Propose merging :Category:Nightclubs in Dublin (city) to :Category:Nightclubs in the Republic of Ireland, :Category:Music venues in Dublin (city), :Category:Drinking establishments in Dublin (city)

:Nominator's rationale: Only 3 entries each. Merge for now until it can be sufficiently populated. –Aidan721 (talk) 20:54, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:31, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Oppose. Night clubs are very much a feature of city life, probably more so that most other topics, and more so than national culture. So if there are a handful of articles for which we should avoid the troublesome, unofficial and contemptuous moniker of [Republic of] Ireland, it should be these ones. {{Cl|Nightclubs by city}} is a coherent tree, well-established, defining for nightclubs, and the present nomination would remove valid content from that category. Place Clichy (talk) 12:39, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

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::Upmerge for now. I don't really understand Place Clichy's argument, categories are to help navigation, this category isn't large enough to help navigation. It doesn't really matter that Nightclubs by city is a coherent tree. Mason (talk) 01:10, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

::: The argument is that these categories, and the articles in them, won't be any more in {{Cl|Nightclubs by city}} under the proposal, and that doesn't help navigation IMHO. Place Clichy (talk) 09:50, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

:::: But :Category:Nightclubs by city consists of large enough cities anyway, not every city. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:03, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

::::: Presumably cities associated with nightlife, and there's no reason to remove Belfast and Dublin from that. Alright, I don't feel strongly enough about that one to fight over it, but I wished to record this opinion. Place Clichy (talk) 10:12, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Categories: By-elections to the Parliament of the United Kingdom in Suffolk constituencies by century ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster (talk · he/him) 14:22, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:21st century by-elections to the Parliament of the United Kingdom in Suffolk constituencies to :Category:By-elections to the Parliament of the United Kingdom in Suffolk constituencies

:* Propose merging :Category:20th century by-elections to the Parliament of the United Kingdom in Suffolk constituencies to :Category:By-elections to the Parliament of the United Kingdom in Suffolk constituencies

:* Propose merging :Category:19th century by-elections to the Parliament of the United Kingdom in Suffolk constituencies to :Category:By-elections to the Parliament of the United Kingdom in Suffolk constituencies

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. No compelling reason to exceptionally subdivide this category by century. LukeSurl^t c 15:03, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

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::Support in principle per nom. But the categories should also be manually merged to :Category:19th-century elections in the United Kingdom, etc Mason (talk) 01:10, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

::* No need for this extra merge target, the articles are already in a year category under :Category:19th-century elections in the United Kingdom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:58, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:By-elections to the Parliament of the United Kingdom in Hackney constituencies ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) House Blaster (talk · he/him) 00:10, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:By-elections to the Parliament of the United Kingdom in Hackney constituencies to :Category:By-elections to the Parliament of the United Kingdom in London constituencies

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. No compelling reason this area of London is given a sub-category. LukeSurl^t c 14:56, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

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Merge for now, the target is currently not diffused this way. I have no opinion on whether it should be diffused this way, but it does not make sense to have just this single subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:04, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

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==Category:GA-Class Nazi Germany articles==

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