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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 15:16, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Buildings Downtown Portland, Oregon to :Category:Buildings and structures in Portland, Oregon

:Nominator's rationale: --Another Believer _(Talk) 14:06, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

::Hi. It's the "Downtown" that distinguishes this category. Portland is a major city with many distinct neighborhoods. It would be helpful to look up buildings by neighborhood, rather than lumping every building in the city together. Thanks. Pickwiki (talk) 15:44, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

:::{{Ping|Pickwiki}} If you're going to create subcategories, then I'd suggest :Category:Buildings and structures in North Portland, Oregon, :Category:Buildings and structures in Northeast Portland, Oregon, :Category:Buildings and structures in Northwest Portland, Oregon, :Category:Buildings and structures in South Portland, Oregon, :Category:Buildings and structures in Southeast Portland, Oregon, and :Category:Buildings and structures in Southwest Portland, Oregon, based on :Category:North Portland, Oregon, :Category:Northeast Portland, Oregon, :Category:Northwest Portland, Oregon, :Category:South Portland, Oregon, :Category:Southeast Portland, Oregon, and :Category:Southwest Portland, Oregon. --Another Believer _(Talk) 22:21, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

: If kept, rename to :Category:Buildings and structures in Downtown Portland, Oregon. No opinion on whether than warrants a category. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:47, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

::@Pppery I've proposed a different way to subcategorize above, if you are interested in revisiting this discussion. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:22, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

• Merge, no other neighborhoods in Portland have their own subcategory while that would be more interesting. It is too obvious that many notable buildings are in downtown. If not merged, rename to :Category:Buildings and structures in Downtown Portland, Oregon for better grammar. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:52, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

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::Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:52, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:50, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Art awards by country to :Category:Visual arts awards by country

:* Propose renaming :Category:Australian art awards‎ to :Category:Australian visual arts awards

:* Propose renaming :Category:Bangladeshi art awards‎‎ to :Category:Bangladeshi visual arts awards

:* Propose renaming :Category:British art awards‎‎ to :Category:British visual arts awards

:* Propose renaming :Category:Canadian art awards‎ to :Category:Canadian visual arts awards

:* Propose renaming :Category:Danish art awards‎ to :Category:Danish visual arts awards

:* Propose renaming :Category:Dutch art awards‎ to :Category:Dutch visual arts awards

:* Propose renaming :Category:French art awards‎ to :Category:French visual arts awards

:* Propose renaming :Category:German art awards‎‎ to :Category:German visual arts awards

:* Propose renaming :Category:Indian art awards‎ to :Category:Indian visual arts awards

:* Propose renaming :Category:Italian art awards‎ to :Category:Italian visual arts awards

:* Propose renaming :Category:Japanese art awards‎ to :Category:Japanese visual arts awards

:* Propose renaming :Category:New Zealand art awards‎ to :Category:New Zealand visual arts awards

:* Propose renaming :Category:Pakistani art awards‎ to :Category:Pakistani visual arts awards

:* Propose renaming :Category:Russian art awards‎ to :Category:Russian visual arts awards

:* Propose renaming :Category:Slovenian art awards‎‎ to :Category:Slovenian visual arts awards

:* Propose renaming :Category:South African art awards‎ to :Category:South African visual arts awards

:* Propose renaming :Category:Ukrainian art awards‎‎ to :Category:Ukrainian visual arts awards

:* Propose renaming :Category:European art awards‎ to :Category:European visual arts awards

:Nominator's rationale: There's a bit of an inconsistency issue in this category tree that's causing some confusion. All of the subcategories here are named "X art awards" except the American one, which is {{cl|American visual arts awards}} -- but the parent category is {{cl|Visual arts awards}} rather than "Art awards", which resulted in me having to do a major cleanup run to move a whole lot of articles that had been left in the parent instead of being moved to any of these subcategories, potentially because these are named differently than the parent and thus people didn't realize they existed. Bearcat (talk) 21:18, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose, this old chestnut keeps rearing it's ugly head, Art is not a sub-category of Visual arts and :Category:Art awards by country has been incorrectly categorised subsequently to its creation. :Category:Arts awards by country etc would be a better parent category. "Art" includes more than just the 'visual'. Sionk (talk) 21:35, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
• :{{xt|"Art" includes more than just the 'visual'.}} Indeed. The recent CfR on art festivals (see below) established that music / dance festivals and literary festivals are not considered "visual arts" festivals, but they are "art festivals". If musical/dance and literary artists are suddenly excluded and disqualified from membership in this tree, that has a lot of consequences. We need to work out the semantics first, and then assess the consequences any changes would have for the category tree. NLeeuw (talk) 06:28, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
• Rename per nom and if there are any articles about awards that are not for visual arts then move them to a new :Category:Art awards. Sionk has a point but by just opposing we don't solve the problem that Bearcat put on the table. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:51, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

:::That is basically recommending renaming these categories then recreating them again. The sensible approach would be to extend the "Visual arts" tree, if that is what Bearcat thinks is needed. Sionk (talk) 12:28, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

• :Rename per nom and also support Marco's proposal. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:48, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Sionk's commentary is worth examining. I'll add that Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 14#Category:Art festivals in the United States was recently withdrawn by nom who couldn't justify renaming "art" to "visual arts" on second consideration. We need to consider the semantics and consequences for the tree. (Not voting on this proposal yet myself). NLeeuw (talk) 05:36, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
• Rename all per nom and also support Marco's proposal. We have "considered the semantics and consequences for the tree" many times, and they would be very extensive, not worth the trouble, and introduce large numbers of clashes between article and category names. So don't let's do that. We know that there are senses of "Art" that include literature etc, but the restriction in many if not most contexts of "art" to visual art, and Arts for the wider sense is normative in English, and Sionk should learn to live with that. In category names, with no immediate accompanying text, more precision may be needed, hence my support. Johnbod (talk) 15:28, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
• Rename per nom. In places where "art" proves to be a confusing term for some (I myself don't have any trouble with it) we should remove the ambiguity by having only "arts" or "visual arts", as appropriate. Ham II (talk) 15:47, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:55, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Turkic Sufi saints to :Category:Sufi saints

:Nominator's rationale: There have been several cfds that found that Turkic foos aren't defining. It looks like this category was missed. Mason (talk) 21:17, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

• Delete and move Taptuk Emre and Ahmad Yasawi and the subcategory to :Category:Sufi saints. The other articles are already in :Category:Bengali Sufi saints or :Category:Sufi saints from the Ottoman Empire. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:58, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
• {{ping|Smasongarrison}} thoughts on Marcocapelle's proposal? HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:33, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
• :Fine with me, sounds like a good solution Mason (talk) 00:49, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 20:17, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Singles by decade by record label, :Category:2000s Atlantic Records singles, :Category:2010s Atlantic Records singles, :Category:2020s Atlantic Records singles, :Category:2000s Island Records singles, :Category:2010s Island Records singles, :Category:2020s Island Records singles, :Category:Atlantic Records singles by decade, and :Category:Island Records singles by decade to :Category:Atlantic Records singles, :Category:Island Records singles, various singles-by-year categories as appropriate and delete the main container cat.

:Nominator's rationale: No need to break them up by decade--that would be better handled with a discography anyway--and no need to have the scheme :Category:Singles by decade (in the 21st century only) and record label. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:52, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

:*Comment, there was already a discussion about [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_6#Categorization_of_singles_by_record_label_by_decade this]. Sahaib (talk) 05:40, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Merge per nomination and my reasoning in the previous nomination linked by Sahaib. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 00:12, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
• {{ping| koavf}} would you be able to detail exactly which categories you want merged where? Ideally in the form

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• :Category:Foo to :Category:X1 and :Category:X2 and :Category:X3
• :Category:Bar to :Category:X1 and :Category:X2 and :Category:X4
• Deleting :Category:Baz

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:*[Decades Atlantic Records singles] -> :Category:Atlantic Records singles

:*[Decades Island Records singles] -> :Category:Island Records singles.

:This will make :Category:Atlantic Records singles by decade, :Category:Island Records singles by decade, and :Category:Singles by decade by record label empty, so they should be deleted. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:17, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge :Category:Officers of Ipswich Corporation and :Category:Ipswich Corporation to :Category:History of Ipswich. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:03, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Officers of Ipswich Corporation to :Category:Ipswich Corporation

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. There is only one page here, which isn't helpful for navigation. I strongly encourage the category creator not to create categories with only one page in them. Mason (talk) 00:53, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

• Merge with :Category:Ipswich Corporation to :Category:History of Ipswich. It is very unhelpful to create a separate category for every article. I will tag :Category:Ipswich Corporation too. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:47, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

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::Even better! Mason (talk) 21:33, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

:::Merge per Marco. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:56, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:05, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Romanian people by ethnic or national origin and occupation to :Category:Romanian people by occupation

:Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:53, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

• Keep. I don't see anything inherently wrong with the category. It could get larger if we made categories for other numerous minorities in Romania like Germans or Roma. I also see we already have an American equivalent, :Category:American people by ethnic or national origin and occupation. Super Ψ Dro 21:43, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

• Keep — nothing wrong with having only two subcategories, and as noted by Super Dromaeosaurus, there is potential for at least two more. — Biruitorul ^Talk 21:58, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

• Delete — Except for politicians (as Romania posits itself as a nation state, ethnic politicians often represent the interests of ethnic minorities), such association in entirely irrelevant and should not exists, per WP:EGRS. If somebody wants a random category intersection, there are tools out there that can create it using existing categories. Anonimu (talk) 15:32, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

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::Delete per nom. The two keep votes are both implicitly referencing SMALLCAT with mention of potential for growth. SMALLCAT is not longer a a criteria to keep a category. If ether of the keeps want to make more well populated categories that's great, but until then, the category is unhelpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 02:13, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. --Aldij (talk) 08:11, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:05, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Conspiracist media}}

:Nominator's rationale: This category contains medias that are mainstream, and most of these are from certain countries. Coddlebean (talk) 06:09, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

• Weak delete; perhaps upmerge A lot of these are indeed conspiracist media, like InfoWars. But categories are not a place where we can verify their status as conspiracist. That's a job for reliable sources in articles. WP:RSP can help. But verification of membership is probably a time-consuming effort. If we don't do that verification regularly, this risks becoming a WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. But perhaps we should upmerge the category to its parents? NLeeuw (talk) 06:34, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

:* Upmerging does not solve the problem, it just moves the problem to another place. Besides :Category:Alternative media is certainly not a proper merge target. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:50, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

:*:Fair points. NLeeuw (talk) 08:24, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

• Lean to delete, considering the fact that many articles are already in a more specific subcategory of :Category:Conspiracy theories I don't think this category adds much value in itself. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:06, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
• keep These are not mainstream media; they are something else. Whether or not they are mostly from certain countries is beside the point; they are from wherever they are from. Specific media outlets are quite different from specific theories and, as such, are not (and should not be) in the random set of articles I looked at in :Category:Conspiracy theories. Hmains (talk) 18:16, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
• Keep, to distinguish between media promoting conspiracy theories and those merely investigating them. Paleontologist99 (talk) 16:28, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
• Keep per {{u|Paleontologist99}}. - Amigao (talk) 19:31, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
• :Keep per above AHI-3000 (talk) 19:47, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete but manually add some places for which it is defining to the main category. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:07, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Populated places on the Underground Railroad}}

:Nominator's rationale: Specific buildings which served as stations on the Underground Railroad are absolutely defined by it but an entire town, city or county is usually not. In some cases, certain locales like New Bedford, Massachusetts were such hubs of the Underground Railroad that they should be kept in the main category but that can be done on a case by case basis. User:Namiba 15:30, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:07, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
• keep These are historically related places. They were certainly defining for these places during the historical period involved here: 1840s and 1850s in the United States. These illegal activities were something that many people in a place were at least silently aware of and did not bring to the attention of law enforcement. In many cases, the articles do not point to a specific building(s) so there is no use in thinking that will keep tying these together, as they should be. Hmains (talk) 18:51, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

::Is it defining though? In most cases, no. Neither Portland, Maine nor most other cities are not defined by the fact that they had a stop in the Underground Railroad. For cities which are defined as such, they can and should be categorized within the tree. If you can show otherwise, I will withdraw the nomination.--User:Namiba 17:07, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

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::Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:52, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus. No prejudice against speedy renomination, seems like there's potential for a different rename target. {{bcc|Marcocapelle|Johnbod}} (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:04, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Religious buildings and structures destroyed in the Muslim period in the Indian subcontinent to :Category:Hindu temples destroyed during the Muslim period in the Indian subcontinent

:Nominator's rationale: rename per actual content. They are all Hindu temples. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:37, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

• Rename per nom. 08:23, 10 May 2024 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nederlandse Leeuw (talk • contribs)
• Rename perhaps as :Category:Religious structures destroyed during the Muslim period in the Indian subcontinent. The structures destroyed during that period include not just Hindu temples but also Jain and Buddhist ones (i.e., all idol-worshiping Indian religions). Rasnaboy (talk) 13:19, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

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• User:Rasnaboy has just added Jain temples, Halebidu to the category. I suggest to move this article to :Category:Destroyed temples and have the rename pursued as nominated. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:55, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Oppose nom. If they ever were "all Hindu temples", they are not now. More Buddhist structures could be added. But this is an unsatifactory category, on a highly sensitive issue. Many of the buildings have not really been "destroyed", though the generally rather chaotic articles are not good at clarifying the dates of remaining parts - Hoysaleswara Temple for example. Probably this is often unclear to historians - as is who did the damage. Hmmm. Johnbod (talk) 01:17, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
• Keep per Johnbod. --Aldij (talk) 09:04, 10 June 2024 (UTC) (blocked sock)

:* {{ping|Johnbod}} the fact that a number of the buildings have not really been destroyed is an interesting observation too. But what should we do about it? (Rename differently, purge, delete?) Marcocapelle (talk) 18:09, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

::Rename to :Category:Religious buildings and structures in the Indian subcontinent damaged in the Muslim period - sounds a bit lame I know> Is "sacked" any better? Johnbod (talk) 22:41, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

::* Yes, I like "sacked", it does mean something serious happened. "Damaged" is a bit lame indeed. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:24, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

• Keep per Johnbod - there's no need to make this category more specific when the applicability both parts of the new name is apparently disputed. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:54, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:05, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose splitting :Category:Palestinian American activists for Palestinian solidarity to :Category:American people of Palestinian descent and :Category:American activists for Palestinian solidarity

:Nominator's rationale: Dual merge. This is an extremely narrow intersection of activists for a specific cause, intersecting with nationality and ethnicity. Mason (talk) 19:30, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

::Dual merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:48, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

• Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:28, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:05, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Middle Eastern anti-racism activists to :Category:Anti-racism activists by nationality

:Nominator's rationale: Redundant category lawyer with only three middle eastern nationalities in it. Mason (talk) 19:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

::Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:49, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:29, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:55, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Yoruba Muslim leaders to :Category:Yoruba Muslim religious leaders

:Nominator's rationale: rename per :Category:Yoruba religious leaders. This category was at WP:CFDS for a different rename proposal. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:58, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

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• :Category:Yoruba Muslim leaders to :Category:Yoruba Muslim clergy – C2C: parent is Muslim clergy Mason (talk) 00:59, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

:* Oppose, not all articles in the category are about clergy. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:52, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

:*:Move to full? Mason (talk) 12:35, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

:*:* {{ping|Smasongarrison}} fair enough, but I would advocate "religious leaders" rather than "clergy" per the other parent category. Religious leaders is broader than clergy. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:17, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

:*:*:I'd be fine with religious leaders. Mason (talk) 22:26, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

:*:*::Do not we have consensus here? Ymblanter (talk) 21:05, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

:*:*::* {{ping|Ymblanter}} consensus yes, but C2C does not apply because the two parent categories have different formats (clergy vs religious leaders). If this were to be speedied, it could be done per WP:IAR. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:15, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

:*:*::*:I see, someone should take it to the full discussion. Ymblanter (talk) 06:22, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

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::Support per nom. Mason (talk) 19:01, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:54, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose splitting :Category:Terrorist incidents in Venezuela to :Category:Terrorist incidents in South America and :Category:Terrorism in Venezuela

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category only has one page in it and it's also not clear cut if the one page Attack on Fort Paramacay is terrorism. Mason (talk) 18:13, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

• Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:29, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:05, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Male bacteriologists to :Category:Bacteriologists

:Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between being male and a specific kind of biologist, under per WP:EGRS Mason (talk) 18:08, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

• Just delete, the only article is already in :Category:British bacteriologists. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:31, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
• :Sounds good to me. Mason (talk) 19:46, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:52, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Women speculative fiction editors to :Category:Speculative fiction editors and :Category:Women editors

:* Propose merging :Category:Male speculative fiction editors to :Category:Speculative fiction editors

:Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between editor, genre of editing, and gender. There's no male editor category in general. Mason (talk) 18:04, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per WP:OCEGRS, trivial intersection. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:08, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
• Question At which upward level will gender become WP:DEFINING? Or: At which downward level will gender become WP:NONDEFINING? Would parent :Category:Women editors and potential parent :Category:Women print editors also fail WP:OCEGRS as a trivial intersection? If so, then Merge and follow-up nomination. If not, then Keep and Re-parent :Category:Women speculative fiction editors from :Category:Women editors to :Category:Women print editors. The current proposal seems a bit piecemeal, and not based on precedents of similar cases. {{xt|There's no male X category in general}} is an argument that can be made for countless trees for which the female/women category (tree) has been found to be WP:DEFINING. NLeeuw (talk) 05:24, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
• :I agree that my nom was piecemeal, quite literally (if you look at the edit history). To answer @Nederlandse Leeuw , my point about male editors was that :Category:Male speculative fiction editors did not have a gendered parent category, not that we should do away with the gendered editor category. In general, I think that the subject matter of the content that the editor is editing is not a defining intersection with gender, whereas the fact that one is female and an editor is defining given that the vocation has been described as a "gentleman's career" [https://press.princeton.edu/ideas/women-in-the-gentlemans-career-of-publishing][https://lithub.com/women-in-publishing-100-years-ago-a-historical-vida-count/]. In terms of the specific kind of publishing, film, magazine, etc that probably is worth keeping because most people are described as a film editor, magazine editor etc, rather than just as an editor.Mason (talk) 20:01, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:51, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Michigan-Ontario Collegiate Conference football seasons}}

:Nominator's rationale: Only one subcategory. Let'srun (talk) 01:49, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

:Keep; part of well-established tree. Jweiss11 (talk) 01:50, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom, categorization by year suffices in this case. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:27, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Comment Category is now empty. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:09, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
• {{ping|Jweiss11}} are you okay with deletion considering that it has been empty for a week? (It would be scheduled for WP:C1 deletion soon, but being listed at CFD preempts C1.) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:20, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
• :Well, I guess we can delete this now. This category wasn’t empty when I commented above. It had a child category that was nominated separately. We can file this as another time-wasting, obstructionist XfD by Let’srun, the sort of behavior of his that is currently being discussed at ANI. The 1940 Lawrence Tech football article is now missing a needed 1940 season category. Someone should fix that. I’m mobile-only with limited editing ability for the next few days. Jweiss11 (talk) 00:38, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:54, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:Template Large category TOC on category with up to 200 pages}} to :Category:Template Large category TOC on category with up to 1200 pages

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:Template Large category TOC on category with 201–600 pages}} to :Category:Template Large category TOC on category with up to 1200 pages

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:Template Large category TOC on category with 601–900 pages}} to :Category:Template Large category TOC on category with up to 1200 pages

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:Template Large category TOC on category with 901–1200 pages}} to :Category:Template Large category TOC on category with up to 1200 pages

:Nominator's rationale: We have sub-tracking categories either to avoid a massive parent category or because different situations require different fixes. The category tree is currently empty, so it is not the first one. And they all require the same fix (swapping to {{t|Automatic category TOC}}; you don't need a large TOC for categories which have fewer than 1200 members). Therefore, there is no need for this amount of granular detail; one tracking category is plenty. (See also Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 23#Category:Categories without CatAutoTOC and friends.) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 15:50, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

::Merge all as empty maintenance categories with little likelihood of use. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:54, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. --Aldij (talk) 09:03, 10 June 2024 (UTC) (blocked sock)

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:The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:54, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Template Category TOC on category with 101–200 pages}} to :Category:Template Category TOC tracking categories

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Template Category TOC on category with 201–300 pages}} to :Category:Template Category TOC tracking categories

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Template Category TOC on category with 301–600 pages}} to :Category:Template Category TOC tracking categories

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Template Category TOC on category with 601–900 pages}} to :Category:Template Category TOC tracking categories

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Template Category TOC on category with 901–1200 pages}} to :Category:Template Category TOC tracking categories

:Nominator's rationale: After Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 23#Category:Categories without CatAutoTOC and friends, these are all redundant category layers with one subcategory. Merge all to :Category:Template Category TOC tracking categories. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 15:38, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

::Merge per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:53, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. --Aldij (talk) 13:07, 4 June 2024 (UTC) (blocked sock * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 04:05, 28 June 2024 (UTC))

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:The result of the discussion was: speedy keep. (Withdrawn.) (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 15:43, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Template Category TOC on category with over 1200 pages to :Category:Categories which use Category TOC without Automatic category TOC

:Nominator's rationale: Following up on Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 23#Category:Categories without CatAutoTOC and friends, I think that this category makes the most sense as part of :Category:Categories which use Category TOC without Automatic category TOC. (If a category does use {{t|Automatic category TOC}} and has more than 1200 pages, it will automatically use {{t|Large category TOC}}. Therefore, any category with more than 1200 pages with {{t|Category TOC}} does not use {{t|Automatic category TOC}}.) This merge will also allow for a massive simplification to the code of Template:Category TOC/tracking. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 15:24, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:04, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:American Roman Catholic poets to :Category:American Catholic poets

:Nominator's rationale: I think we should broaden this category because there's no Roman Catholic poets parent category and all the siblings under :category:Catholic poets by nationality are FOOian Catholic poets. Mason (talk) 15:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

::Rename per nom. I honestly had no idea there were types of Catholics until today but I agree, this should match other similar categories to this. Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:14, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

• Rename, diffusion by church body within the Catholic Church is only useful if there are a significant number of Eastern Catholics too, but that does not seem to be the case here. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:12, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:03, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Southeast Asian people of Brazilian descent}}

:Nominator's rationale: We do not categorize descent categories by regions; we only group them by continents and countries. I do not see any valid reason to make an exception for Southeast Asia. Aldij (talk) 13:41, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

::Delete per nom Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:46, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:19, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Southeast Asian people of Chinese descent}}

:Nominator's rationale: We do not categorize descent categories by regions; we only group them by continents and countries. I do not see any valid reason to make an exception for Southeast Asia. Aldij (talk) 13:41, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:52, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
• :Delete per nom Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:46, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose splitting :Category:Academic libraries in Algeria to :Category:Libraries in Algeria and :Category:University and college buildings in Algeria

:Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge for now. There are only two redirects in this category, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 13:24, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

• Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:20, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Works by Sidi Boushaki to :Category:Arabic poetry

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one poem in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 13:21, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

• Just delete, the article is already in :Category:Poems in Arabic. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:21, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
• :Even better! Mason (talk) 18:22, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Algerian inventions}}

:Nominator's rationale: Redudant category layer (merge for now). The lone child category is already in all the parent categories it needs Mason (talk) 13:19, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:22, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 05:14, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename as nominated, except for merging :Category:Early Modern history of the United Kingdom to the newly renamed :Category:Early modern history of Britain (it was formerly :Category:Early Modern Britain). (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 15:21, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern history of Algeria to :Category:Early modern history of Algeria

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early modern Angola to :Category:Early modern history of Angola

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern history of Armenia to :Category:Early modern history of Armenia

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern Austria to :Category:Early modern history of Austria

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern history of Azerbaijan to :Category:Early modern history of Azerbaijan

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern history of Belarus to :Category:Early modern history of Belarus

:* Propose renaming :Category: Early Modern history of Bengal to :Category:Early modern history of Bengal

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern Britain to :Category:Early modern history of Britain

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern England to :Category:Early modern history of England

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern France to :Category:Early modern history of France

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern history of Georgia (country) to :Category:Early modern history of Georgia (country)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern history of Germany to :Category:Early modern history of Germany

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern Holy Roman Empire to :Category:Early modern history of the Holy Roman Empire

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern history of Hungary to :Category:Early modern history of Hungary

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern history of India to :Category:Early modern history of India

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern history of Iran to :Category:Early modern history of Iran

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern history of Iraq to :Category:Early modern history of Iraq

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern Ireland to :Category:Early modern history of Ireland

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern Italy to :Category:Early modern history of Italy

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern history of Lithuania to :Category:Early modern history of Lithuania

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern Luxembourg to :Category:Early modern history of Luxembourg

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern Morocco to :Category:Early modern history of Morocco

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern Netherlands to :Category:Early modern history of the Netherlands

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern history of Poland to :Category:Early modern history of Poland

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern history of Portugal to :Category:Early modern history of Portugal

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern history of Russia to :Category:Early modern history of Russia

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern Scotland to :Category:Early modern history of Scotland

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern history of Serbia to :Category:Early modern history of Serbia

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern Sicily to :Category:Early modern history of Sicily

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern history of Somalia to :Category:Early modern history of Somalia

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern history of Somaliland to :Category:Early modern history of Somaliland

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern history of Spain to :Category:Early modern history of Spain

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern history of Sweden to :Category:Early modern history of Sweden

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern history of Switzerland to :Category:Early modern history of Switzerland

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern Thailand to :Category:Early modern history of Thailand

:* Propose renaming :Category:Early Modern history of the United Kingdom to :Category:Early modern history of the United Kingdom

:Nominator's rationale: rename. First, a capital M is not needed, per Early modern period, :Category:Early modern period and :Category:Early modern period by country. Next to that, we may harmonize the categories further to either "Early modern country" or "Early modern history of country". I will add targets to the nomination when the latter becomes a bit more clear in the discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:51, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

::Good job, by the way! This must have been quite an effort to set up and work out. NLeeuw (talk) 20:30, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

:::Interesting how little consistency there is in the parent articles' titles: Early modern Britain; France in the early modern period; Germany in the early modern period; History of early modern Italy; History of Poland in the early modern period (1569–1795); Scotland in the early modern period; Early modern history of Serbia; Early Modern history of Spain (a redirect); Early modern Switzerland; Early modern history of Ukraine (another redirect) – and Pomerania during the Early Modern Age, Early Modern Romania and Early modern period in Wales for good measure. Do we need to look at these first? Ham II (talk) 13:04, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

• Rename all to {{xt|Early modern history of Fooland}}, lowercase "m" (following several recent precedents), and "history of" to prevent any anachronisms about countries that didn't yet exist, or didn't yet have their modern names (at least not in contemporary sources, or historiographical convention / common parlance), e.g. the Netherlands (most but not all was the Dutch Republic), the United Kingdom (most but not all was the Kingdom of Great Britain), Ukraine (most but not all was the Cossack Hetmanate or Hetmanshchyna), Germany (HRE, you know the drill), Belarus, India, etc. NLeeuw (talk) 12:14, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
• Support per nom and Nleeuw. Excellent points! Mason (talk) 13:21, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
• Support per nom and Nleeuw. I concur with Mason. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:49, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
• Support per nom, but merge the United Kingdom category into :Category:Early modern history of Britain, which serves any purpose the UK one would have and is less anachronistic. Ham II (talk) 12:46, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

:* Fair enough to merge, but then Irish redirect should presumably be purged? Marcocapelle (talk) 07:08, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

::* Yes; Early Modern Ireland, 1536-1690 – a redirect to History of Ireland (1536–1691), which has an almost identical date range – sits very strangely in :Category:Early Modern history of the United Kingdom, and it's also the only page there! The target page History of Ireland (1536–1691) wouldn't belong in :Category:Early modern history of Britain, and again would sit strangely in the existing UK category if that were kept. Ham II (talk) 09:40, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

::**Rather than attempt to relist this behemoth of a discussion (probably would get ratelimited if I tried...) I am going to ping {{yo|Omnis Scientia|Smasongarrison|Nederlandse Leeuw|p=}} for comments on the merge proposal. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:32, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

::**:Merge proposal seems fine to me. Mason (talk) 00:35, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

::**:Could we please exclude Ireland, Britain, UK and whatever from this discussion and create a separate discussion about that, and rename the rest as nominated? We really shouldn't get sidetracked by details on such a big nom. NLeeuw (talk) 00:37, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

::**:I support the merger as well. Omnis Scientia (talk) 08:38, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:59, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Water polo players by city or town to :Category:Water polo players by populated place

:* Propose renaming :Category:Volleyball players by city or town to :Category:Volleyball players by populated place

:* Propose renaming :Category:Sport wrestlers by city or town to :Category:Sport wrestlers by populated place

:* Propose renaming :Category:Speed skaters by city or town to :Category:Speed skaters by populated place

:* Propose renaming :Category:Skiers by city or town to :Category:Skiers by populated place

:* Propose renaming :Category:Sport shooters by city or town to :Category:Sport shooters by populated place

:* Propose renaming :Category:Sailors (sport) by city or town to :Category:Sailors (sport) by populated place

:* Propose renaming :Category:Rugby union players by city or town to :Category:Rugby union players by populated place

:* Propose renaming :Category:Rugby league players by city or town to :Category:Rugby league players by populated place

:* Propose renaming :Category:Racing drivers by city or town to :Category:Racing drivers by populated place

:* Propose renaming :Category:Ice hockey people by city or town to :Category:Ice hockey people by populated place

:* Propose renaming :Category:Field hockey players by city or town to :Category:Field hockey players by populated place

:* Propose renaming :Category:Handball players by city or town to :Category:Handball players by populated place

:* Propose renaming :Category:Gymnasts by city or town to :Category:Gymnasts by populated place

:* Propose renaming :Category:Golfers by city or town to :Category:Golfers by populated place

:* Propose renaming :Category:Figure skaters by city or town to :Category:Figure skaters by populated place

:* Propose renaming :Category:Fencers by city or town to :Category:Fencers by populated place

:* Propose renaming :Category:Cyclists by city or town to :Category:Cyclists by populated place

:* Propose renaming :Category:Curlers by city or town to :Category:Curlers by populated place

:* Propose renaming :Category:Cricketers by city or town to :Category:Cricketers by populated place

:* Propose renaming :Category:Canoeists by city or town to :Category:Canoeists by populated place

:* Propose renaming :Category:Boxers by city or town to :Category:Boxers by populated place

:* Propose renaming :Category:Basketball players by city or town to :Category:Basketball players by populated place

:Nominator's rationale: Per a discussion in speedy. We should first change "city or town" to "populated place" before proceeding with nationality categories. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:58, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

::Pinging @Marcocapelle, @Smasongarrison, and @Armbrust from the speedy discussion. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:10, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

• Support all. When these were made, "city or town" was the standard for WP categories, but the more inclusive "populated place" is now the norm and makes perfect sense. Grutness...wha? 10:31, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
• :Support per nom. And thanks Omnis for doing the legwork on getting these cats in line with the populated place norm. Mason (talk) 12:17, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
• Support all per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 12:17, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
• Rename per several recent cases in which we renamed this way. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:19, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
• Happy to see them renamed accordingly, less clumsy than the current names. Sionk (talk) 19:07, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
• Note: If these are renamed as proposed, therare a lot of by-country subcats of these which will also need renaming. Grutness...wha? 02:15, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
• :@Grutness, if this gets through, those will be done in the next one or via speedy. Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:19, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
• ::Good - thanks. Grutness...wha? 15:47, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:58, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Basketball people by city or town to :Category:Sportspeople by sport and populated place and :Category:Basketball players

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge to parent categories. Only one category layer. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:50, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:21, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
• :Merge per nom Mason (talk) 18:22, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
• Comment: Basketball people (players, coaches, referees, team owners, journalists etc) are not just players.--User:Namiba 18:48, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
• :@Namiba, the category only has :Category:Basketball players by city or town though. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:54, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

::I see now, thanks for clarifying.--User:Namiba 14:11, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

:::No worries. :) Omnis Scientia (talk) 00:46, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. As a WP:BARTENDER action, I will add Massachusetts General Hospital to :Category:Heliports in the United States and purge Camp Edwards Heliport, and direct further discussions on their categorization to their respective talk pages. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:26, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Heliports in Massachusetts to :Category:Heliports in the United States

:Nominator's rationale: Category lacks subjects. Let'srun (talk) 19:41, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

::Upmerge for now without prejudice per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 06:19, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

• Delete, one article is already in :Category:Military heliports in the United States and the other article does not belong in a Heliports category. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:04, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
• {{ping|Let'srun|Nederlandse Leeuw}} thoughts on straight-up deletion? HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:52, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
• :Massachusetts General Hospital has a helipad. Helipad is in :Category:Heliports, so I've got to disagree with Marcocapelle on that one. What we could do is Purge Camp Edwards Heliport first, and then Upmerge the hospital as proposed. NLeeuw (talk) 06:21, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

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::I agree with the proposal from NLeeuw. Let'srun (talk) 01:17, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:56, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Administrative divisions of the United States by state to :Category:Administrative divisions of the United States by state and territory

:Nominator's rationale: It contains pages and subcategories for US territories, and there is no :Category:Administrative divisions of the United States by territory or :Category:Administrative divisions in United States insular areas or similar that I could find. Which would contain only a small number of pages and subcategories. -- Beland (talk) 02:52, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

::Support per nom. This rename is consistent with the gradually shift from states to states or territories. Mason (talk) 23:29, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:56, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose splitting :Category:Women portrait painters to :Category:Women painters and :Category:Portrait painters

:Nominator's rationale: Dual merge for non-defining intersection of gender+type of artist+subject matter of the artist under WP:EGRS Mason (talk) 01:45, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

• Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:55, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:56, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Plurisexual people to :Category:LGBT people

:Nominator's rationale: I hate to be that person, but... neither of the two people added to the category have the word plurisexual mentioned anywhere on their pages. Is this really a defining category for individuals, under WP:EGRS? Because it effectively seems like its extremely similar to this CFD for Polysexuality Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_February_26#Polysexuality. I've always thought of it as an umbrella term to allow for the grouping of queer, bi, and pansexual people, rather than a term that is used to describe individual people. [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33999781/] [https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2022-47096-001] If the category is kept, I think it should be containerized. Mason (talk) 00:23, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

::Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:55, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. The two articles can be purged if only because they are already in the tree of :Category:LGBT people by nationality. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:58, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 17:29, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

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