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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 18:56, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Urdu-language women writers to :Category:Urdu-language writers

:Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between language, gender, and occupation, per WP:EGRS Mason (talk) 13:24, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support in principle but disperse the articles between :Category:Urdu-language writers from India and :Category:Urdu-language writers from Pakistan. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:06, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose being a woman writer is WP:DEF. NLeeuw (talk) 17:05, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

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::Yes, but that's the not question. The intersection is gender with language and occupation. I don't think this meets the criteria for EGRS, and there are no other categories at this intersection. @Nederlandse Leeuw do you have evidence to the contrary that Urdu-language women writers meet the criteria at the intersection? Aka is the "combination [] itself recognized as a defining topic that has already been established (in reliable sources showing substantial existing research specific to the topic), as academically or culturally significant in its own right"? Mason (talk) 02:08, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

:::[https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=women+urdu+writers&btnG=&oq=women+urdu+writers About 49.300 results for "women urdu writers" in Google Scholar]. Just to highlight a few:

:::* The Role of Female Writers in the Promotion of Popular Literature in Urdu.

:::* Women Reading/Women Writing: Anxiety and Āzādī in Twentieth Century Urdu Pulp Fiction

:::* Female Voices: Women Writers in Hyderabad at the Beginning of the Twentieth Century: {{tq|there has been a whole movement of female writers in Urdu, both of poetry and of prose}}

:::* Images of Women in Urdu Novels Written by Muslim Women: An Analysis from A Feminist Perspective

:::* Articulation, agency and embodiment in contemporary Pakistani Urdu poetry by women

:::* Urdu women's magazines in the early twentieth century

:::* Urban Women Rebels: Voices of Dissent in Urdu Popular Fiction

:::* Feminine or Patriarchal: Story of Adam and Eve in Urdu Novels by Women Writers

:::Etc.

:::Also plenty of [https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=e4cdc89e70fd8c3b&sxsrf=ADLYWIJKBaM8JlOz3PtcLxea-h7vd4Oltw:1728451913092&q=women+urdu+writers&tbm=bks&source=lnms&fbs=AEQNm0Aa4sjWe7Rqy32pFwRj0UkWd8nbOJfsBGGB5IQQO6L3J_86uWOeqwdnV0yaSF-x2jpV_A7Qlhyckt3jQ2x2e6anFT4tTunxKLhzsjU56Kcyv7OICjPOEJNFq9C7aIH4mnlUa4wn5pvhVtRFuhyve4-rM7SkGrXVH11Ooqvq5OC7V3cGVbG6ZQvmDrkbtJnUw6hPmdwY&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjU8amSyYCJAxXW3AIHHY5UD64Q0pQJegQIDxAB&biw=1280&bih=591&dpr=1.25 Google Books], e.g.

:::* The Language They Chose: Women's Writing in Urdu Vol I: Fiction

:::* The Language They Chose: Women's Writing in Urdu Vol II: Non-Fiction

:::* Women's Writings from India, Pakistan and Bangladesh: The Worlds of Bangla and Urdu

:::* Parwaaz: A Selection of Urdu Short Stories by Women

:::* Portrayals of Women in Pakistan: An Analysis of Fahmīdah Riyāẓ’s Urdu Poetry

:::Etc.

:::So yes @Smasongarrison, I think I might have some evidence. Arguably, it's high time that this topic received its own stand-alone article. NLeeuw (talk) 05:37, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep per NL Mach61 14:06, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 18:56, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:LGBTQ-related suicides to :Category:LGBTQ people who died by suicide

:Nominator's rationale: The current title may be misleading implying that all those people died due to LGBTQ issues. Some of them, however, committed suicide for other reasons, such as Alexander McQueen. Proposed title would also be consistent with the Foo who died by suicide scheme: :Category:College students who died by suicide‎, :Category:People who died by suicide in prison custody‎, etc. Brandmeister^talk 08:33, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

• Comment, it would not surprise me if the category was originally meant to be about suicides due to LGBTQ issues. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:01, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

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• To relister's comment: it is correct that I am not opposing the nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:35, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 19:21, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Louisville Black Caps}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Louisville White Sox}}

:Nominator's rationale: Only one category layer. Both are basically the same team but changed their names. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:57, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: I created these categories. The rationale for deletion may be sound but it would be useful to know what the post-deletion cleanup would look like. Is this an argument to have a single category name to cover both team names? Would this leave the players categories dangling? I just would like to know where this is going. Stefen 𝕋ower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 19:06, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
• :@StefenTower, the player categories are in :Category:Negro league baseball players and :Category:Baseball players in Kentucky by team. Omnis Scientia (talk) 17:20, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
• ::Thanks. I'm aware of that but deleting removes them from the structure that goes up to :Category:Baseball teams in Louisville, Kentucky which is under :Category:Baseball in Louisville, Kentucky. A user traversing that structure might not run into the player categories. Thus, my !vote to Combine below. Stefen 𝕋ower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 23:18, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
• Delete, having the subcat in :Category:Baseball players in Kentucky by team suffices in these cases. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:58, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
• Combine. As they are practically the same team, it would be useful to combine these into one category (e.g. :Category:Louisville Black Caps and White Sox), and continue as a child of :Category:Baseball teams in Louisville, Kentucky. Otherwise, the team articles would have to be added to that category, with the fallout of losing subcategories of the team's players under both names in that structure. A deletion wouldn't be catastrophic, but I think combining is more optimal. Stefen 𝕋ower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 23:12, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

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• I don't follow the combine proposal. If that is the way forward then the players categories should be combined too and we still do not need a parent category. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:33, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
• :@Marcocapelle, per WP:Baseball, if the team name changes then a new category is created for the new name. So player categories shouldn't be combined. Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:33, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
• :* Ok, but then parent categories should not be combined either I guess? Marcocapelle (talk) 21:20, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

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• Presumably the "combine" thread is entirely moot by now. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:13, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
• :@Marcocapelle, sorry for such a late response. No they shouldn't be and there certainly is no precedent for it. Its worth noting too that it was a team that was around for less than three years and there is little known about it. Even if its combined, it will still only have two categories and one article. Deletion is the best approach. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:28, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus. A merge nomination might find consensus. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 19:15, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Aviation accidents and incidents caused by fighter aircraft shootdowns to :Category:Aircraft shootdown incidents involving fighter aircraft

:Nominator's rationale: Category name seems self-contradictory or even oxymoronic, and inherently implies a cause. Shootdowns are typically intentional acts and not accidents; in the rare occurrences in which aircraft have been shot down under circumstances that may be truly accidental, considerable controversy typically exists, and blanket categorization implying a cause could be a violation of WP:NPOV. Proposed category name is less subjective. Carguychris (talk) 16:53, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

::Oppose rename. This is inconsistent with the rest of the category tree. Mason (talk) 21:32, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

:::This CFD and the aforementioned "missile shootdown" category effectively created a branch of :Category:Aviation accidents and incidents that duplicates :Category:Aircraft shootdown incidents. These incidents only need to be listed in one category tree, and the "shootdown incidents" tree existed first; these new "shootdowns" branches of the "accidents and incidents" tree are redundant and should be deleted. Pardon my failure to mention that in the initial proposal. Carguychris (talk) 23:35, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

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• Merge to :Category:Airliner shootdown incidents. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:46, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to :Category:Aircraft shootdown incidents. (non-admin closure) Cremastra (u — c) 22:57, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Aviation accidents and incidents caused by missile shootdowns}}

:Nominator's rationale: Category name seems self-contradictory or even oxymoronic, and inherently implies a cause. Shootdowns are typically intentional acts and not accidents; in the rare occurrences in which aircraft have been shot down under circumstances that may be truly accidental, considerable controversy typically exists, and blanket categorization implying a cause could be a violation of WP:NPOV. Carguychris (talk) 16:58, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

::Oppose. "accidents and incidents " includes non-accidents. Please suggest an alternative name if you dislike it. Mason (talk) 21:32, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

::::Category:Aircraft shootdown incidents already exists, so this branch of :Category:Aviation accidents and incidents seems redundant. Suggest :Category:Aircraft shootdown incidents involving surface-to-air missiles. (It is unclear whether the creator of this subcategory intended to restrict it to SAM shootdowns, but the only article currently in the category is a SAM shootdown, and I would argue that in air-to-air or fighter shootdowns, the weapon used is non-defining.) Carguychris (talk) 21:58, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

• {{ping|Carguychris}} shouldn't this category be merged to :Category:Aircraft shootdown incidents rather than deleted? Marcocapelle (talk) 02:56, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
• :Yes, I did not make that clear in the original post. This CFD and the similarly named "fighter aircraft shootdowns" category effectively created a branch of :Category:Aviation accidents and incidents that duplicates :Category:Aircraft shootdown incidents. These incidents only need to be listed in one category tree, and the "shootdown incidents" tree existed first; these new "shootdowns" branches of the "accidents and incidents" tree are redundant and should be deleted. Carguychris (talk) 11:54, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

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• Merge to :Category:Aircraft shootdown incidents. This is a single-entry small category. It's ridiculous that we've spent two relists bickering over what to name it. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:47, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
• Merge per Pppery. Unhelpful for navigation. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 19:17, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 19:20, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Airliner bombings in the United States}}

:Nominator's rationale: Violates WP:OCLOCATION and WP:NARROWCAT; the absolute number of airliner bombings is too small to warrant subdividing, it's unlikely to grow substantially in the future, and the country where a bombing took place is not a central defining characteristic. OCLOCATION dictates that countries of occurrence may be useful for dividing up huge and unwieldy categories, but this isn't one of them, and is unlikely to ever be. Carguychris (talk) 19:00, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

::keep Nomination does not consider the effect of this deletion on :Category:Improvised explosive device bombings in the United States where this will result in declining navigation abilities to get to quickly see those articles about IEDs involving aircraft in the United States. Hmains (talk) 19:20, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

:::I considered that. There are only about twenty listings in that category. Adding nine more should not make the category unwieldy, and since the articles are all named " ", it's obvious which ones are airliner bombings. Carguychris (talk) 19:40, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

• Presumably this is meant to merge :Category:Airliner bombings in the United States to :Category:Airliner bombings rather than delete. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:30, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
• :Yes. Carguychris (talk) 21:28, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
• Merge for now, with the very uneven distribution between countries, a diffusion by country currently does not make too much sense. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:48, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
• This is not a numbers game here. Categories are created to aid readers in their navigation to articles. Putting all the articles into :Category:Improvised explosive device bombings in the United States with no subcat showing these are airliner bombing is not helpful, is not an improvement, is not moving forward. Airliner bombings here should be kept on an equal footing in :Category:Improvised explosive device bombings in the United States with :Category:Building bombings in the United States and :Category:Car and truck bombings in the United States as they are without thinking about WP. :Category:Airliner bombings in the United States articles are all named, as stated above " ", it's obvious which ones are airliner bombings." Once merged, however, it is NOT at all obvious that these articles are about airliners being bombed. We only know this from the category name: :Category:Airliner bombings in the United States and categories and their names are another important component of WP, not something to be tossed around and deleted freely. Hmains (talk) 01:15, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: triple merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 19:01, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Defunct airlines of Réunion to :Category:Defunct airlines of France

:Nominator's rationale: Category contains a single page, unhelpful for navigation. Propose merge to :Category:Defunct airlines of France. AusLondonder (talk) 20:19, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

• What about the other parent :Category:Defunct airlines of Africa? Perspicax (talk) 23:30, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
• Dual triple merge per above discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:40, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Updated vote per Fayenatic london below. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:10, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

• Dual merge per above discussion. Suggest follow-up CfM for

:::Category:Defunct airlines of Mauritius (1P) and other underpopulated child cats of :Category:Defunct airlines of Africa like Eritrea, South Sudan and Somalia.

:::Category:Defunct airlines of Europe: Faroe Islands‎ (1 P); Guernsey‎ (1 P); Belarus‎ (2 P); Montenegro‎ (1 P)

:::Category:Defunct airlines of Asia by country: East Timor‎ (2 P); Kuwait‎ (2 P); Mongolia‎ (2 P); Oman‎ (1 P); Syria‎ (1 P)

NLeeuw (talk) 06:37, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

• Triple merge to :Category:Defunct airlines of France, :Category:Defunct airlines of Africa and :Category:Airlines of Overseas France. Consequently, delete :Category:Defunct airlines of Overseas France and :Category:Defunct companies of Overseas France as empty (see related Guadeloupe nomination below). – Fayenatic London 11:53, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
• Dual merge per discussion above. Ratnahastin (talk) 04:09, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
• {{ping|Ratnahastin}} What is your rationale for removing the contents from :Category:Airlines of Overseas France, please? – Fayenatic London 10:04, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: triple merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 19:05, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Defunct airlines of Guadeloupe to :Category:Defunct airlines of France

:Nominator's rationale: Category contains a single page, unhelpful for navigation. Propose merge to :Category:Defunct airlines of France and :Category:Defunct airlines of the Caribbean. AusLondonder (talk) 20:13, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

• Dual triple merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:41, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Updated vote per Fayenatic london below. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:34, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

• Triple merge to :Category:Defunct airlines of France, :Category:Defunct airlines of the Caribbean and :Category:Airlines of Overseas France. Consequently, delete :Category:Defunct airlines of Overseas France and :Category:Defunct companies of Overseas France as empty. – Fayenatic London 11:51, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
• Dual merge per discussion above. Ratnahastin (talk) 04:10, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
• {{ping|Ratnahastin}} What is your rationale for removing the contents from :Category:Airlines of Overseas France, please? – Fayenatic London 10:04, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 19:00, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:The Wild Thornberrys films to :Category:The Wild Thornberrys

:Nominator's rationale: Only contains two articles. Fails WP:NARROWCAT. (Oinkers42) (talk) 16:51, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

• Merge, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:35, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 19:00, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:People from Crigglestone to :Category:People from the City of Wakefield

:Nominator's rationale: Category containing a single article, unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 14:05, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:36, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 19:00, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:People from Bounds Green to :Category:People from the London Borough of Haringey

:Nominator's rationale: Category containing a single article, unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 12:47, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:36, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 19:00, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:People from Bamber Bridge to :Category:People from South Ribble (district)

:Nominator's rationale: Category containing a single article, unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 12:40, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:37, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 19:00, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:People from Anderton, Lancashire to :Category:People from the Borough of Chorley

:Nominator's rationale: Category containing a single article, unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 12:39, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:38, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 19:00, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:People from Polgooth to :Category:People from Cornwall

:Nominator's rationale: Category containing a single article, unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 12:34, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:38, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 19:00, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:People from Manaccan to :Category:People from Cornwall

:Nominator's rationale: Category containing a single article, unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 12:32, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:39, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 19:18, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:History of Yugoslavia to :Category:Yugoslavia

:Nominator's rationale: Because Yugoslavia is a historical topic as such, this title is redundant, all this should simply be upmerged into the parent category, there's no apparent benefit in having the readers do an extra click. Joy (talk) 06:59, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

::NB: if there's actual historiography topics that should be categorized, we should make a :Category:Historiography of Yugoslavia for that. --Joy (talk) 07:20, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

:*Disagree The "History of Yugoslavia" category is one of about 20 country categories in :Category:History of Europe by former country and there are more “Histories of former countries in the “other continent” countries. Hence it should not be deleted or upmerged. Hugo999 (talk) 08:50, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

:*:I mean look at the content of the category, it's a handful of vaguely appropriate articles and subcategories, the core historical content is meager. None of this would do worse if it was directly in :Category:Yugoslavia, and would save a click for whoever is browsing the category tree

:*:Other examples may or may not be similar: for example, the Soviet Union's category has at least some historiographical stuff under it, and in turn a main space article History of the Soviet Union. On the other hand, History of Yugoslavia was upmerged into Yugoslavia fifteen years ago and it's doubtful there's a need to split it out as a whole (individual periods already have separate articles).

:*:Surely the point of the category tree isn't just nice and orderly existence, rather it's to get people reading more of the encyclopedia. I don't quite see how this would be helping that, it seems more like a small obstacle. --Joy (talk) 15:13, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

• Merge, not all former countries have a history category so we should check this case by case. In this case, after applying WP:SUBCAT, the parent category will contain only two subcategories and two articles more than before the merge. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:54, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 18:57, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Articles on pre-1900 earthquakes}}

:Nominator's rationale: No longer used in Template:Infobox earthquake and was added in 2018 at Talk:List_of_historical_earthquakes#Proposal_to_redefine_as_"before_1900"_(not_1901) and was removed from the template in 2019. See more discussion. Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 01:50, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

• There is still an article AD 17 Lydia earthquake in the category, how did that happen? Marcocapelle (talk) 05:03, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
• Delete. It's supposed to be a tracking category but hasn't been tracked by anything since 2019. The only member AD 17 Lydia earthquake was added manually with Category:Articles on pre-1900 earthquakes. The article is already in the non-tracking :Category:1st-millennium earthquakes where it belongs. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:37, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
• Delete per PrimeHunter. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:48, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

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