Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard#ADDgrammar

• {{pagelinks|Lisa Feret}}
• {{userlinks|165.127.14.3}}

There was a previous discussion about this in 2021, and it seems the same thing is still happening four years later. 165.127.14.3 is an IP registered to the "State of Colorado General Government", and despite several warnings and apparent knowledge of how to use talk pages, is still editing COI pages: Colorado State Capitol, Alex Valdez (removing information critical of him), and Lisa Feret (adding several thousand bytes of promotional and badly sourced information).

Is there a reason this IP wasn't blocked the first time? Almost all of its edits have been to politics-related pages, and IP seems to have no intention of stopping or responding to warnings. Iiii I I I (talk) 04:58, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

:(Pinging previously involved editors in case you're interested: {{ping|Mathmitch7|Melcous|Jon698|Seraphimblade|p=}}.) Iiii I I I (talk) 05:02, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

:diff review:

:* 16 April 2025: uncited claims

:* 18 February 2025: promotional puffery and over-reliance on primary sources

:* 30 January 2024: {{tq|"... are you working on a page for our new state rep Chad Clifford we want to know more about him ..."}} coi implication

:* 4 May 2023: unexplained removal of cited information that reflects poorly on subject

:* 11 May 2021: addition of uncited information about multiple living persons

:* 23 April 2019: addition of uncited, and possibly undue, information

:near all of their edits are in the stated political space, many are minor uncontroversial changes; however, when issues do arise a coi appears to be a contributing factor and attempts to communicate these problems are unsuccessful. might be worth considering ani, but since this is an ip and the problematic edits are sparse i'm not sure what kind of outcome that'd bring. fifteen thousand two hundred twenty four (talk) 02:50, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you very much for tagging me here, I'm glad to continue the discussion. I highly recommend editors look at the previous discussion as I had previously identified over 40 affected articles and 5 IP addresses, all of which belong to Colorado government computers. I think further investigation of similar addresses would also be a good idea, eg, anything in the 165.127.14.X range.

::I am in favor of blocking particularly bad individual addresses like the one in this report. This is surely preferable to a range block.

::I am considering filing a report with the Colorado Office of Legislative Workplace Relations, as per the leg's [https://leg.colorado.gov/workplace-expectations Workplace Expectations Policy]. I do not know what the legislature's IT department's abuse policy is like, or how to contact them. However, it seems filing a complaint with the organization directly is a good idea, as they surely have more ability to stop this than we do. This is one of the courses of action advised on Wikipedia:Blocking IP addresses. - - mathmitch7 ^{(talk/contribs)} 16:44, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

:::I have now sent an email to the Colorado Office of Legislative Workplace Relations (OWLR). You can find a copy of that email here: User:Mathmitch7/2025-04-29 Complaint to Colorado OLWR. - - mathmitch7 ^{(talk/contribs)} 22:49, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

::::Update: my complaint has been forwarded to the CO Legislature's IT department leadership. I've updated the post in my userspace (User:Mathmitch7/2025-04-29 Complaint to Colorado OLWR) with our conversation. Other editors, please feel free to continue to update this COIN entry with related instances of vandalism should you find it. - - mathmitch7 ^{(talk/contribs)} 23:55, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::User:165.127.14.3 at Lisa Feret again.

:::::18:56, 2 May 2025 - 20:05, 2 May 2025: removed sourced paragraphs about how {{tq|"feret has advocated for a comprehensive approach to crime prevention"}} and {{tq|"she supports a wide range of policies to address housing shortages including expanding supportive housing"}}, while adding in a couple small primary-sourced reputational boosters like {{tq|"Feret worked on several bills promoting child safety and protection"}} and {{tq|"Feret passed a bill to add protections for veterans seeking benefits."}}

:::::Looks like political reputation management to me, especially with the coi concerns: The people no longer agree with the "mental health co-response model" and sending officers in response to "individuals experiencing homelessness"? Just snip it out. fifteen thousand two hundred twenty four (talk) 08:13, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

• {{pagelinks|Palm cooling}}
• {{userlinks|Performance science}}

As can be seen in this diff link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Palm_cooling&diff=prev&oldid=1287084651 this article has been edited to include a link to the company website as a reference, and the nature of the edits use language that suggest a lack of neutrality. These links go against Wikipedia's suggestions of links that should be avoided, and the author of these edits appears to be acting in an advertising self-interest not in an unbiased capacity. For instance, the mention of a successful crowdfunding campaign seems promotional in nature and not relevant to the article. I have raised these concerns on the user's talk page and waited a reasonable time for a rectification or response, but with no response. Strict1y (talk) 16:49, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

: I've corrected the heading and added the page and user links above. There was an issue with this page a year and a half ago, but apparently with a different user. -- Pemilligan (talk) 19:35, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you for making those corrections! Strict1y (talk) 22:07, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

:::Pretty standard drive-by advertising. I've cleaned a bunch of it out of the article. If you see anything like this again feel free to just remove the offending material. MrOllie (talk) 22:43, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

• {{pagelinks|J-P Conte}}
• {{userlinks|MadelaineHS}}
• {{userlinks|MadelaineHanson}}
• {{userlinks|Thelmoine}}

Looks like a textbook COI situation but it would be good to get other eyes on this. Amigao (talk) 22:32, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

:If you Google the names, you can see a clear trail. Trying to do some cleanup but would be better to strip it to a stub and rebuild in my opinion. --CNMall41 (talk) 23:34, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

::Was just trying to clear up some sources, apologies. Definitely went into full resume territory. Please don't delete it, I'll stand back and won't make any edits. Didn't realize I was being so impartial, seems obvious now. Thanks! Thelmoine (talk) 01:41, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

:* {{userlinks|Socialio86}}

:Anyone looking into this might be interested to see this user, who coincidentally uses the same words on Talk:J-P Conte as the other account in the edit summary of {{diff|oldid=1287885136|label=this diff}} despite claiming to be another user. They have entered the AfD discussion regarding the mentioned article. MediaKyle (talk) 02:10, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

::I do not want to be involved in WP:OUTING so I will not post the link, but this is 100% WP:UPE. Some of the references are also going to be paid for. --CNMall41 (talk) 02:38, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

:::Yes, I just saw that. This is really bad. This should be brought to someone's attention. MediaKyle (talk) 02:39, 29 April 2025 (UTC)t

::::: I used checkuser and {{np|Socialio86}}, {{np|MadelaineHS}}, and {{np|Thelmoine}} are {{confirmed}} to each other. {{np|MadelaineHanson}} is {{IPstale}} but also a WP:DUCK. All of them blocked. PhilKnight (talk) 03:41, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

::::If anything, the company name and editor name found in Google search should be added to Wikipedia:List of paid editing companies. --CNMall41 (talk) 16:10, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

:An update on this situation: Following some investigation based on the above, I have identified the following articles which have a high likelihood of being linked to this UPE effort:

{{collapsed|

:* {{pagelinks|Tim Kane}} (cut this one back myself already)

:* {{pagelinks|Balance (2013 book)}}

:* {{pagelinks|WilkinsonEyre}}

:* {{pagelinks|Berwin Leighton Paisner}}

:* {{pagelinks|APCOA Parking}}

:* {{pagelinks|Young Enterprise}}

:* {{pagelinks|Vubiquity}}

:* {{pagelinks|John Mills Limited}}

:* {{pagelinks|JML Direct TV}}

:* {{pagelinks|Bluefin Labs}}

:* {{pagelinks|2 Sisters Food Group}}

:* {{pagelinks|Novo Nordisk}}

:* {{pagelinks|GreenPalm}}

:* {{pagelinks|Boston Consulting Group}}

:* {{pagelinks|Chrysalis Records}}

:* {{pagelinks|Compassion in World Farming}}

:* {{pagelinks|The Deal (magazine)}}

:* {{pagelinks|Association of Chartered Certified Accountants}}

:* {{pagelinks|Maritime UK}}

|List of articles}}

:I've omitted some articles which have already been fixed since I tagged them. These remaining articles will require greater scrutiny, and a few of them can likely be sent to AfD. MediaKyle (talk) 22:34, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

• {{pagelinks|NordVPN}}
• {{userlinks|SpaghetticodeV}}
• {{userlinks|Putongpengyou}}
• {{userlinks|BettinoD}}
• {{userlinks|KnownStormChaser}}

The NordVPN article has recently received a string of promotional edits that I suspect may be undisclosed paid editing:

• 4 April: SpaghetticodeV cited [https://insider-gaming.com/vpn-gaming/nord/browser-extensions/ a highly promotional post] with affiliate links to NordVPN and a call to action on the blog "Insider Gaming"
• 9 April: Putongpengyou cited [https://www.comparitech.com/blog/vpn-privacy/nordvpn-threat-protection/ a highly promotional review] with affiliate links to NordVPN and a call to action on the product comparison site "Comparitech". The content included the ad-like text {{xt|"boosting its claim to be the most advanced VPN app on the market"}} and text with the trademark symbol, i.e. {{xt|"Threat Protection Pro™"}}.
• 28 April: BettinoD added a list of "awards" from sites containing affiliate links to NordVPN and cited NordVPN marketing pages such as {{xt|"Get our Emergency VPN Assistance for FREE"}}.
• 29 April: KnownStormChaser obscured NordVPN's Lithuanian origins to claim that NordVPN is Panamanian, citing [https://support.nordvpn.com/hc/en-us/articles/19441152966161-Where-is-NordVPN-based a NordVPN support page] that presents the Panama jurisdiction as a security benefit.

This editing pattern from newly registered accounts gives me the impression that the promotional article changes are coordinated. I've tagged the article as {{tl|Promotional}} and {{tl|Undisclosed paid}} while this article is being cleaned up. — Newslinger talk 09:54, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

: {{Ping|Newslinger}} At the top of this page is the requirement:

: {{Blockquote|This page should only be used when ordinary talk page discussion has been attempted and failed to resolve the issue, such as when an editor has repeatedly added problematic material over an extended period.}}

: Did you do that? A cursory look at each of the relevant user talk pages shows no such discussion. Did it occur elsewhere? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:41, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

::Sorry, I should have opened the sockpuppet investigation before this discussion; I have since opened one and the investigation is now at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SpaghetticodeV. All of the above editors were notified and warned against conflict-of-interest editing when this noticeboard discussion was created, and the only acknowledgement came from KnownStormChaser, who blanked their user talk page in Special:Diff/1288149632 as their second edit on Wikipedia. — Newslinger talk 10:18, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

• {{pagelinks|Paul Bilzerian}}
• {{userlinks|Junekramer1}}

User:Junekramer1 appears to both have a COI with Paul Bilzerian ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Junekramer1 edit history since March], and took [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Paul_Bilzerian_2008.jpg the 2018 photo of subject]).

And has now repeatedly [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paul_Bilzerian&diff=prev&oldid=1288606172 deleted large amounts of cited material] from the Paul Bilzerian article.

And in an effort to keep the cited material deleted from that article - since their latest large deletion - [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection/Increase&diff=prev&oldid=1288720505 has asked for page protection].

I would suggest that we handle the editor the way WP addresses COI editors who edit in this manner. And that the deleted material be restored. Thank you.--184.153.21.19 (talk) 21:30, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

• This is convincing to me. I have blocked Junekramer1 indefinitely. Bishonen | tålk 22:12, 4 May 2025 (UTC).

• {{pagelinks|Ahmed Mater}}
• {{userlinks|Arif11}}
• {{userlinks|Profarthist}}
• {{userlinks|AhmedMater}}

Would be helpful to additional eyes on this WP:SPA situation. Amigao (talk) 22:35, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

:Article is at AfD and user says they have no COI. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:39, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

:@Amigao, I think you have a point. I also noticed something unusual between the two accounts, {{u|Arif11}} and {{u|AhmedMater}}. Netherzone (talk) 17:58, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

::AhemedMater has created a draft, Draft:Arif Alnomay, which is the same name as Arif11's [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Arif11&oldid=1284828053 original user page]: And now a brand new editor, {{u|Profarthist}}, is adding back unsourced or poorly sourced content that was removed from Ahmed Mater during article clean up. Very interesting coincidences. Netherzone (talk) 20:09, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

::User {{u|AhmedMater}} had previously disclosed that they had a conflict of interest on Draft:Arif Alnomay, then removed both the AfC template and their statement that {{tq|I disclose that I have a conflict of interest regarding the subject of this article.}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft%3AArif_Alnomay&diff=1288557271&oldid=1288477833] Whether or not this is UPE, it is clear that there are COI's between the accounts and the articles they edit in coordination with one another. Netherzone (talk) 23:58, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

:::@Arif11, may I ask if you have edited with any other user names, such as {{u|AhmedMater}} or {{u|Profarthist}}? Netherzone (talk) 13:42, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

::::Dear editors,

::::I am Arif11, and I would like to offer a final and clear clarification:

::::I have never used the “AhmedMater” account to make any edits. That account was used only for reading, following discussions, or training to understand how Wikipedia works. All of my contributions were made solely through my personal account (Arif11) and with completely sincere intent.

::::I also affirm that I have absolutely no connection to the account Profarthist, and I have not coordinated with any other users.

::::Unfortunately, the responses I received — including replies to earlier messages written in good faith — were filled with suspicion and accusations, and lacked a spirit of collaboration or respect. This kind of treatment discourages serious contributors and undermines the core purpose of Wikipedia as a free and cooperative encyclopedia.

::::My contributions were aimed at improving content related to respected cultural figures. One of the removed sources — published by The London Publisher Edward Booth-Clibborn — is a reliable, high-quality art monograph, and it was unjustly dismissed without proper review.

::::Therefore, I no longer wish to continue. I respectfully request that the current article and all related drafts be deleted. I will advise the artist’s studio to contact Wikipedia directly through official and neutral channels to ensure appropriate documentation in the future.

::::— Arif11 Arif11 (talk) 16:12, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::Except, as noted above, and as anyone here can see, User:AhmedMater created Draft:Arif Alnomay. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:54, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

::::::Arif11 has continued to edit the Ahmed Mater article despite strong evidence that they have been a close associate of Ahmed Mater, (or are Ahmed Mater). They first claimed they were not a close associate, and were just "doing research" on him. However there is very strong off-wiki evidence (in addition to the on-wiki evidence) that they have been closely connected with one another for years. Now Arif11 has re-uploaded a photograph of Mater (that was previously deleted as copyvio), claiming that they took the photo back in 2004. In 2011 they created the article on him, and continued to add unambiguous promotional content (see the article page history and the AfD). As to the off-wiki evidence, there is evidence that Arif Al-Nomay (Alnomay) has worked for Ahmed Mater, been in exhibitions with them, and has been associated with him for years. They recently claimed that Commons has accepted the copyright claim for the image, yet there is no evidence of a ticket being submitted or approved. I am not exactly sure what is going on, whether this is a "simple" COI or if UPE, meat or sock is applicable. I've tried explaining these problems to the editor several times in multiple venues including their talk page and other talk pages, however things are just not adding up. I can provide diffs upon an administrator's request. Netherzone (talk) 21:13, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

• {{pagelinks|Jarlath Regan}}
• {{userlinks|JBRProductions}}

I noticed that the infobox image in this article was contributed by this user. The username made me suspicious that this might be Regan or his production team, had a look at the contrib history and noticed that they contributed significantly to the article ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jarlath_Regan&diff=prev&oldid=1214419567 diff]) back in March 2024. Am I crazy here? Ahuman00 (talk) 23:48, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

:Not crazy. I trimmed some of the most promotional elements. BubbaJoe123456 (talk) 14:26, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

• {{userlinks|Webmastertsd}}

There's evidence that this user engages in undisclosed paid editing. His last edits were on a promotional sandbox, User:Webmastertsd/sandbox. On one older userpage version (Special:PermaLink/585085621), there's a link to a commercial webpage (https://animalhospital.com.my/meet-the-team/). This page fits well to his editing contents (promoting Malaysian veterinarians), furthermore, the webmaster/maintainer responsible for the upkeep of this pages is apparently a company using the same initials as the reported user, "TSD". I happened to encounter this individual while looking through recent files on Commons some hours ago. Regards, Grand-Duc (talk) 02:13, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

:User has not edited since 2013, and has only two extant mainspace edits, one of which corrects a typo in the other. Both were reverted a long time ago. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:18, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

::That's not true, there were the sandbox edits from 2025-05-03 and 2025-05-04, see: Special:Log/Webmastertsd. Regards, Grand-Duc (talk) 14:09, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

• {{pagelinks|International School of France}}
• {{userlinks|Danenriquezor}}

This editor has added promotional text, {{tq|focusing on innovative and engaging learning experiences}}, to this school article. Sourcing is poor - the school website and https://star.fandom.com. I have asked them if they work for or represent the school, and they have replied {{tq|i will not disclose if i work with them or not}}. Not come across this response before, so bringing it here. Thanks. Tacyarg (talk) 08:08, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

Tacyarg (talk) 08:08, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

:hello, i am still not seeing where on the page i put « focusing on innovative and engaging learning experiences » if you can help me indicate where on the page this is i will be glad to remove it. Danenriquezor (talk) 08:34, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

::You can see it in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=International_School_of_France&diff=1288901363&oldid=1288893136 this diff]. Tacyarg (talk) 09:45, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

:::i will re-update this page, i will rephrase some sentences since my goal is not to promote in any way this school, rather to give the satistics, it's history, a layout of the school and how it interagtes into the town like a university wich gives it it's uniqueness, again sorry for the mis-understanding i am only trying to preserve the towns history since there isn't as much accsseible information on the internet about it. Danenriquezor (talk) 10:43, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

::::{{Ping|Danenriquezor}} If you refuse to disclose whether or not you have a COI, editors will reasonably assume that you do have. Therefore, please comply with WP:COI and refrain from editing the article except in the very limited circumstances described there. You may request more substantive changes on the article's talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:11, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::Student, perhaps?   –Skywatcher68 (talk) 18:28, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

• {{pagelinks|International Game Technology}}
• {{userlinks|192.156.111.202}}

192.156.111.202 is registered to an IGT subsidiary and has been removing well-sourced lawsuit information, latest edit removed half of the section and replaced the other half with unsourced info.   –Skywatcher68 (talk) 15:08, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

:Recently returned to remove the entire section again.   –Skywatcher68 (talk) 20:06, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

• I have partially blocked the IP address from the article. JBW (talk) 21:01, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

• {{pagelinks|Mohammad A. Arafat}}
• {{pagelinks|Suchinta Foundation}}
• {{userlinks| TahiHasan}}

I think this user is connected with Mohammad A. Arafat; this user's maximum contribution is in the Mohammad Arafat article, and also this user added his photo to Commons. I think he or she should reveal COI. And Mohammad Arafat is the chairman of the Suchinta Foundation; the user uploaded a non-free logo with an own work status, so he or she is connected with both of the subjects.

Niasoh ❯❯❯ Wanna chat? 03:47, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

:This page should only be used when ordinary talk page discussion has been attempted and failed to resolve the issue. It doesn't appear that anyone has raised the issue of COI in discussion with this user. Also, they're supposed to be told when a discussion is started here. -- Pemilligan (talk) 05:14, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

{{userlinks|Timbudds1}}.

Edit of their user page. See this [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Timbudds1&oldid=1290006221 revision] Pibx (talk) 06:25, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

: What of it? Where is the prior discussion? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:37, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

::{{ping|Pibx}} Wikipedia:User pages says {{tq|You are also welcome to include a simple link to your personal home page, although you should not surround it with any promotional language. However, if a link to your home page is the only thing on your userpage, this may be seen as an attempt at self-promotion.}} and {{tq|Users believed to be in violation of these policies should first be advised on their talk page using {{subst:uw-userpage}} when immediate action is not otherwise necessary.}} TSventon (talk) 20:05, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

• {{al|Scopely}}
• {{userlinks|Yoyoma129!}}

User Yoyoma129! has been exclusively editing the Scopely article for four years, and in revision [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Scopely&diff=prev&oldid=1287106312 01:27, 24 April 2025], Yoyoma129! clearly obfuscates that the company is a subsidiary of Savvy Games Group, deletes the company’s cited valuation in October 2021, and unnecessarily simplifies language relating to the company’s IP partnerships. 2600:4041:454F:6E00:89D6:334D:FF63:96DD (talk) 16:35, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

:Per the banner at the top of this page, you need to notify the user on their talk page about this discussion. DoubleCross (‡) 16:53, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

• {{pagelinks|O. P. Singh}}
• {{userlinks|NoorM2}}

User has said [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=O._P._Singh&diff=prev&oldid=1288560299 The changes were made per the requirements of Mr OP Singh. He has informed me to make the changes in education and career]. User has added peacock language ("eventful tenure ... successfully led ... global recognition"). I have added a CoI template to the user's Talk page and followed it up, but not had a reply, and the user has continued to edit the article. Tacyarg (talk) 09:39, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:Other issues notwithstanding, it should be noted that in one edit NoorM2 removed a false claim that the subject had died. Such edits are welcome, from even the most conflicted editors. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:42, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

• {{pagelinks|Hestia Tobacco}}
• {{userlinks|Davidsley}}

I semiprotected the article after seeing reports of disruption but I'm unsure how to respond to the most recent edits by {{user|Davidsley}} who added (diff) a lot of market-speak. I don't have time to persuade someone that Wikipedia should not be used for promotion so a block of some kind seems desirable although unkind for someone with 17 edits. Suggestions? Johnuniq (talk) 00:20, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

:Okay, I understand. If you feel the recent addition might be seen as promotional and doesn't align with Wikipedia's guidelines, it's definitely the right step to consider removing and improving it. What is the purpose of editing Hestia Tobacco I have discussed it on my talk page. I will be thoroughly reviewing the Hestia Tobacco article to ensure it adheres to Wikipedia's guidelines. I will definitely review the Hestia Tobacco in depth , I want to keep the information exactly according to the Wikipedia criteria, remove all promotional content and I need to understand that not all information is promotion, I only requested here that the vandalism of the article be stopped. As the owner of Hestia Tobacco I am being threatened and harassed on by the editor by sending messages to my number. Davidsley (talk) 04:42, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

::Could you clarify what you mean by 'sending messages to my personal number'? What sort of number are you referring to? AndyTheGrump (talk) 04:59, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

:::someone has threatened me with personal number, off-wiki harassment I am unable to understand how a wiki editor can take my personal number.

:::{{tq2|Threats: Number: {{redacted}},{{pb}}Controlling Wikipedia articles about your company doesn't work. A Wise IP said that to me once.{{pb}}That Wise IP who you were arguing with? That was my friend, DACartman. I apologize for their actions.{{pb}}I told them to stay off the page. So how do you make your smokes}} Davidsley (talk) 05:09, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

::::If you can provide verifiable evidence that an identifiable Wikipedia contributor has been harassing you off-Wikipedia, it can of course be acted on. Given the circumstances described, you would be best advised to contact the Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee by email (arbcom-en@wikimedia.org), rather than making further disclosures here. I'd recommend keeping the email on-point, only concerning the alleged harassment, as ArbCom isn't going to involve itself in a content dispute.

::::As for the disputed content, I have reverted your recent edit. It is clearly promotional, and with some questionable sourcing. Note that per WP:CoI guidelines, {{tq|you are strongly discouraged from editing affected articles directly... you may propose changes on talk pages (by using the {{tlx|edit COI}} template)...}}. I suggest you do so, after first reading Wikipedia:Reliable sources and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. AndyTheGrump (talk) 05:26, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

::@Davidsley: If it was you on that IP, can you please explain why you, an American businessman, are using a Pakistani IP address that appears to do undisclosed paid editing for a variety of clients? Or has someone been editing on your behalf? -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 10:39, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

::As the owner of Hestia Tobacco you have a conflict of interest and shouldn't be editing the article. Secretlondon (talk) 10:44, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

: The user has helpfully disclosed that he's the company founder with [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hestia_Tobacco&diff=prev&oldid=1290273879 this edit summary] and his name in the article. I've added a more direct comment on his talk page. We'll see. -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pemilligan (talk • contribs) 03:04, 14 May 2025 (UTC)