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== RD: Per Nørgård ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = Per Nørgård

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/musik-und-buehne/konzert/zum-tod-des-daenischen-komponisten-per-n-rgard-110503911.html FAZ]

| updated = yes

| nominator = Grimes2

| updaters = Grimes2

| nom cmt = Danish composer

| sign = Grimes2 12:18, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

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:*Support: Widely-known Danish classical composer. Article is fine and well-sourced. NeoGaze (talk) 13:53, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

== Ōnosato Daiki promotion to yokozuna ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = Ōnosato Daiki

| image = File:OonosatoR6.9.22.jpg

| blurb = Ōnosato Daiki (pictured) becomes sumo's 75th yokozuna.

| recent deaths = no

| ongoing = no

| ITNR = yes

| altblurb =

| altblurb2 =

| sources = [https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2025/05/68e4a493f74c-update1-sumo-onosato-becomes-yokozuna-at-record-pace-after-13-tournaments.html][https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20250528/k10014816971000.html]

| updated =

| nominator = KTC

| creator = OtharLuin

| updaters = JRHorse

| nom cmt =

| sign = KTC (talk) 07:42, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

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  • Strong oppose provincial sports trivia This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 13:14, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :Strong support As Hōshōryū Tomokatsu was posted on [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&oldid=1272583492 29 January 2025]. ArionStar (talk) 13:34, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Support - Promotion to yokozuna has for a long time been our standard story for sumo, and one of the only wrestling- or martial-arts related stories we regularly run. It provincial in a similar sense to the 'World' Series, but it's still highly significant. GenevieveDEon (talk) 13:41, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Support ITN/R item; quality is exemplary. GreatCaesarsGhost 14:06, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Support per above. The Kip (contribs) 16:44, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

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== RD: Freddie Aguilar ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = Freddie Aguilar

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://manilastandard.net/news/314594860/folk-singer-freddie-aguilar-dead-at-72-pfp-lawyer.html Manila Standard], [https://www.abs-cbn.com/entertainment/showbiz/celebrities/2025/5/27/ph-s-music-legend-freddie-aguilar-passes-away-1141 ABS-CBN News]

| updated =

| nominator = Royiswariii

| updaters =

| nom cmt =

| sign = ROY is WAR Talk! 03:44, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

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  • Oppose on article quality: one claim in Later life is unsourced, and not everything in the Discography table is sourced. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 05:10, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

== Royal Visit to Canada ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = 2025 royal tour of Canada

| image =

| blurb = Royal visit of King Charles to Canada, made in light of the American annexation threat.

| recent deaths = no

| ongoing = add

| ITNR = no

| altblurb = King Charles III visits Canada and delivers a speech from the throne to open the 45th Canadian Parliament.

| altblurb2 =

| sources = https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/king-charles-delivers-throne-speech-1.7544242

| updated =

| nominator = TimeEngineer

| creator =

| updaters =

| nom cmt =

| sign = TimeEngineer (talk) 08:31, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

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  • Oppose Routine and not notable. I think WP:NTRUMP probably applies here too, as I imagine that's what most coverage will focus on. –DMartin 08:35, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

:*I respect your view, but this is (a) not about Trump (and the coverage is mostly not about him), and (b) not routine. The last time the Monarch gave a speech from the Throne in Canada was 50 years ago, and the last time a King or Queen visited was 2010. Its not a frequent occurrence. TimeEngineer (talk) 09:00, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

::*I see what you mean about Trump, that's my fault as I mostly consume american news. I nevertheless think that the first clause is a reason enough to oppose. It seems more likely to fall under "huh, that's interesing" rather than "this will have long-term conseuqences". It might make a good DYK though. –DMartin 09:07, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

::*:Twice a century for the King of Canada to do this? I'd hardly call that routine. Heck, it's the first time a King has done it - the other two were by the Queen. Nfitz (talk) 22:31, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

  • Oppose notable? Like any visit by a Head of State to another country, especially if it is by a monarch. Routine? Also, it is one of the functions that HoS should perform. It's not ITN-worthy just because of the latter and if it has anything to do with Trump it's totally irrelevant and just another part of the political drama of his administration's bid to annex Canada. _-_Alsor (talk) 09:26, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Comment The visit is certainly in the news but it's still ongoing and the King opens the Canadian parliament today, which is the main event. Updates to the article are needed as the plans turn into history. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:39, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose per above. The Kip (contribs) 15:14, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Strong Support, but as blurb because it is basically already over. With respect, many of the oppose rationales are not policy-based, and likely come from editors who are simply associating the visit with Trump as opposed to fully appreciating the once in a lifetime nature of the event. In my view, it surpasses the notability threshold for two reasons: (a) even in spite of the Trump aspect, it is a historic, once in a lifetime type of thing (the last time this happened was in 1977, so claims above that it is 'routine' are objectively incorrect) and (b) it is getting objectively widespread, in depth coverage amongst global reliable sources: from publications in the [https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cn4gj32g32yo UK], [https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/king-charles-and-queen-camilla-arrive-in-canada-20250527-p5m2fo.html Australia], the [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/27/world/canada/king-charles-canada-parliament-speech.html USA], [https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/3312033/king-charles-hails-strong-and-free-canada-trump-threat-looms China], [https://www.lemonde.fr/international/article/2025/05/27/le-roi-charles-iii-defend-l-autodetermination-du-canada-face-aux-menaces-de-donald-trump%206608863%203210.html France], [https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/leute/koenig-charles-setzt-mit-kanadabesuch-zeichen-gegen-trump-a-7b6c5f24-29ca-4fd2-879a-c60517635a0c Germany], I could go on. Very little of this coverage is 100% focused on Trump, and he is not even involved in the event, so WP:NTRUMP does not apply. FlipandFlopped 18:28, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose WP:NTRUMP also applies to {{tq|any public figure or institution that is influential enough to the point that the press reports their every single movement}}. Completely non-notable visit. — EF5 18:31, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Above, I hyperlinked publications like the New York Times, the South China Morning Post, Le Monde, and Spiegel, who each have indepth reporting on this visit. Do you have evidence to back your claim that they "report on the every single movement" of King Charles III? The opposite seems true to me - many of those outlets rarely report on King Charles's goings-on, but this is so notable that they have made an exception. FlipandFlopped 18:49, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Flipandflopped, I'll formulate a response shortly, but I highly suggest you strike the {{tq|and likely come from Americans who are simply associating the visit with Trump as opposed to fully appreciating the once in a lifetime nature of the event}} part of your statement. It's completely inappropriate to discount votes because they are of a certain demographic and speculating on the nationality of editors can constitute WP:OUTING. — EF5 19:09, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Let's turn down the temperature a bit. In no conceivable way did I violate WP:OUTING, and I never said anyone's votes should be discounted. I respectfully stated an opinion that the WP:NTRUMP rationales were coming from an overly American perspective, which was not intended to be derogatory at all. FlipandFlopped 19:27, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • You did not say that {{tq|WP:NTRUMP rationales were coming from an overly American perspective}}, you said the editors themselves are {{tq|Americans who are simply associating the visit with Trump}}, which is assuming every oppose voter is American and is, as I stated, inappropriate. Thank you for changing it, though. — EF5 19:38, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Weak support, given that King Charles is quite ill, and any major foreign visit by him is quite unusual. Nsk92 (talk) 19:32, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Is it unusual? He's made eleven in the past two years, and has more planned. –DMartin 21:38, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :A visit of the King of Canada to Canada isn't a foreign visit. For the same reason that Canada doesn't have an embassy in the UK. Nfitz (talk) 22:34, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :: has a High Commission in London though which serves the same function. Abcmaxx (talk) 08:14, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Strong oppose as unimportant national-level address. If NTRUMP doesn't apply, then this was not notable to begin with. The relevant essay would be NCHARLES, correct? Departure– (talk) 19:40, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :I'm going to add that I don't see how this is notable in of itself. The real story here is the opening of the Canadian parliament, but that's not ITNR and a done deal given the election.
  • :To clarify my other reason, I take it that this is getting a lot of coverage due to the context that this is taking place during Trump's second coming, but a lot of the folks I see giving rationales on coverage also reject NTRUMP having any bearing. It's established that it's only an essay, but the underlying truth is still there, and that is that material can be substantially overreported on occasion, and given how this has to do with both the King of England and Donald Trump, this easily is covered by it. Simply put, if Trump was not involved, at least for context, then there would be substantially less coverage and this would likely not have been nominated, let alone posted.
  • :I can't see how this is any more notable than any other "rare" event. Just because something hasn't happened in a while doesn't automatically make it notable. I'm really not seeing how this is notable; Charles made a speech, and that was that. Departure– (talk) 23:10, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

:::There is no such person as the King of England, and there hasn't been since William III died. There is, however, such a person as the King of Canada, and this story is about him. GenevieveDEon (talk) 12:51, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

  • Support The visit has been completed, widely reported and the article updated. Essays are irrelevant per WP:ESSAY, "{{tq|Essays have no official status and do not speak for the Wikipedia community...}}" Andrew🐉(talk) 22:53, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :Is this a !vote on quality or notability? Departure– (talk) 23:04, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • ::ITN deals in quality and significance, not notability. My !vote follows on my earlier comment and addresses both and more besides. Andrew🐉(talk) 06:29, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Leaning oppose on importance. BD2412 T 22:59, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose I'm not seeing why this deserves a blurb. Heads of state visit other countries all the time, and we almost never post them, so what makes this one so much more important that it deserves to be posted? QuicoleJR (talk) 23:59, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose Maybe grounds for a future DYK, but ultimately it’s just a head of state visiting part of their realm. Not remotely newsworthy internationally any more so than if the Danish monarch visited Greenland, the Japanese emperor visited the Ryukyus, or the French President visited Guadeloupe. RPH (talk) 01:12, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Strong Support it is a momentous occasion for the country to have the monarch open Parliament as King of Canada - the first King (male sovereign) to do so and only the third time in the country's history; Canada has a long and complicated relationship with the monarchy, and this move is a clear and decisive statement that Canada will be taking a turn away from the "post-national state" towards embracing a nationalist model of "three founding peoples: indigenous, French, and British", as PM Carney indicated in his inaugural speech. Most people are surprised to learn that Canada is a kingdom, this was not the visit of a foreign head of state as some are saying. This is a deciding point in the country's national narrative and evolution, as the previous two throne speeches by Elizabeth were. There is a throne speech at every new Parliament - meaning there have been 45 throne speeches in the country's history, 42 of which were delivered by Governors General. This is not just another royal visit but rather notable because the King is filling a constitutional role rather than merely meeting and greeting. The country is at an inflection point with new separatist movements rising in the West, meanwhile there is a kind of realignment apparently happening in Quebec after decades of separatism there. It is a chance to shine a light on this pivotal moment in the country's history, and there will likely be a "before" and an "after" for this historic constitutional, identitarian, and political moment-Larineso (talk) 05:02, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose lack of a demonstrated long term impact. (t · c) buidhe 05:24, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose un-elected head of state with no de facto power flies over on a tax-funded private jet for a formality and is present only due to a historical anachronism. Abcmaxx (talk) 08:57, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose per above. IDB.S (talk) 12:12, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose simply a standard steps part of Canada's political system. Nothing unusual here. Masem (t) 12:27, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Neutral, leaning oppose - There's a lot of misleading commentary about this. It's significant, and I don't want to dismiss it out of hand, but we don't generally report on, say, the State of the Union address. GenevieveDEon (talk) 12:52, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :Oppose, do we post other monarchs on diplomatic missions? Don't think so. Angry Islander (talk) 13:04, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

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== 2025 Liverpool parade incident ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = 2025 Liverpool parade incident

| image = 2025 Liverpool car ramming.png

| blurb = Seventy-nine people are injured after a man drives into a crowd at a victory parade in Liverpool, England.

| recent deaths = no

| ongoing = no

| ITNR = no

| altblurb =

| altblurb2 =

| sources = [https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9wgvzyngn4o BBC News]

| updated = yes

| nominator = Harrz

| creator = Harrz

| updaters = Bloxzge 025, Bnwkr, Bondegezou, EEng, Einsof, Martinevans123, This is Paul

| nom cmt = Significant incident which has been reported on internationally.

| sign = harrz talk 17:19, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

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  • Support Well-cited, well-written article, and significant number of casualties despite (thankfully) no deaths. The Kip (contribs) 17:44, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

== RD: Rick Derringer ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = Rick Derringer

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://apnews.com/article/rick-derringer-dies-2b38685f4c97e7a9882f306628413924 AP]

| updated = yes

| nominator = The Kip

| updaters =

| nom cmt = American musician. Article is in rough shape, with a lot of uncited statements + a COI orange tag.

| sign = The Kip (contribs) 03:20, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

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==(Posted) RD: Charles Rangel ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = Charles Rangel

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://abc7ny.com/post/charlie-rangel-former-congressman-harlem-survivor-gang-dies-94/16553821/]

| updated =

| nominator = Muboshgu

| updaters =

| nom cmt = Article is GA

| sign = – Muboshgu (talk) 15:35, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

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  • Support Article is GA, no need to delay this. Mooonswimmer 16:04, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Support I wanted to highlight that the GA is form 2011. With special attention to sourcing/content from after 2011, I still think the article looks good and is fit for ITN Czarking0 (talk) 16:52, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Support Quality looks good to me. QuicoleJR (talk) 20:50, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Support Notable Congressman and the article looks good. The Vital One (talk) 22:35, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Support and marking as ready, article quality is good to go. Not much to add other than what has already been said. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 01:23, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Posted. Black Kite (talk) 19:35, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

== Liverpool win English Premier League title ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = 2024–25 Premier League

| image =

| blurb = In association football, Liverpool win the Premier League title.

| recent deaths = no

| ongoing = no

| ITNR = yes

| altblurb = In association football, Liverpool win the Premier League, a record-equalling 20th title.

| altblurb2 = A vehicle collision occurred after Liverpool won the Premier League, a record-equalling 20th title.

| sources = [https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/apr/27/liverpool-win-premier-league-title-by-beating-tottenham Guardian]

| updated = yes

| nominator = Yorkshiresky

| creator = Tedeff

| updaters = Black Kite

| nom cmt = Joint record 20th title with Manchester United. I posted this as a candidate on 26th April after they won the title, however some argued that it should be posted at conclusion of the season.

| sign = yorkshiresky (talk) 22:34, 26 May 2025 (UTC)}}

  • Comment If it were to be nominated, would we combine this with a blurb on the vehicle ramming? Kingsif (talk) 01:13, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :Is there an article about the vehicle ramming? --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 01:17, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • ::Yes. Left guide (talk) 01:51, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :::I've added an altblurb which mentions the ramming. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 05:50, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Conditionally support only if this original blurb also combined with recent incidents regarding Liverpool vehicle. Otherwise, it's a very good article. 182.1.232.170 (talk) 01:50, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Comment: I don't think we should attempt to shoehorn the collision article into the football blurb just because it happens to be related and has its own article; that could put undue emphasis on it. If the incident alone is significant enough to make it onto ITN on its own merits, then I think a combined blurb would be reasonable. FWIW, it seems that the vast majority of incidents at {{t|Road incidents in 2025}} and {{t|Road incidents in 2024}} haven't qualified for their own blurbs. Left guide (talk) 06:07, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Wait The nominated article has an orange cleanup tag and so needs work. And the parade incident needs time to establish the facts and correct language. Calling it a "vehicle collision" seems misleading and my impression is that it was more of a road rage incident. Andrew🐉(talk) 06:42, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Comment Liverpool won the title a month ago. As many times before, failing to post this when they clinched the title makes this outdated, and we shouldn't give it a second chance if the article wasn't of sufficient quality when the winner was determined. Furthermore, WP:ITNSPORTS states {{tq|In terms of timing, events are generally posted as soon as a winner is determined.}}, so the conclusion of the season isn't really an ITNR item. The incident during the trophy parade is a separate event. --Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 06:51, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

:* It's not clear why it wasn't posted as a result of the previous discussion but it was tagged for proseline back then and the tag is still there a month later. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:39, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

  • Comment. WP:ITNR states "events are generally posted as soon as a winner is determined"(emphasis mine), which isn't a hard and fast rule that we can't wait until the end of season to post the winner. –DMartin 08:56, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

:support altblurb2 though not notable on its own, since EPL is ITNR, it's a good addition to the blurb.Sportsnut24 (talk) 16:36, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

  • Support original blurb The orange tag has been addressed by {{u|Black Kite}}. I see no issue with posting about it now, as Liverpool's victory continues to be in the news. However, I disagree with both of the alt blurbs - alt1 sounds a little too promotional, and alt2 groups in an event that I don't think meets the ITN notability criteria (nobody died, seems like a fluke incident as opposed to political/terrorism, etc). FlipandFlopped 19:55, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Note Marked as ITNR. -- KTC (talk) 07:28, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :Premier League not the English Premier League. -- KTC (talk) 07:30, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose alt2 as written - I have no opinion on inclusion of the incident, but it needs to be in the correct context, i.e. that it occured around / to the crowd at the trophy parade, rather than merely it happened after Liverpool won. -- KTC (talk) 07:32, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Support the original blurb - the season has just ended, so the story is still ripe (if becoming a little over-ripe). Oppose alt-2, as the ramming incident, while tragic and significant, was not so severe that we would post it independently, and it lacks a clear semantic connection to the football title. GenevieveDEon (talk) 13:44, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose they won the title on 27 April and that's when it should have been posted. Abcmaxx (talk) 14:49, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

::I see nothing wrong with posting now, as the Premier League season has just ended. Technically Liverpool won on 4/27 but officially they won this past weekend, and that was also when their championship parade was. Natg 19 (talk) 17:07, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

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== 2025 Surinamese general election ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = 2025 Surinamese general election

| image = Jennifer_Geerlings-Simons.jpg

| blurb = In the Surinamese general election, the National Democratic Party (leader Jennifer Geerlings-Simons pictured) wins the most seats in the National Assembly.

| recent deaths = no

| ongoing = no

| ITNR = yes

| altblurb = In Suriname, the National Democratic Party (leader Jennifer Geerlings-Simons pictured) wins the most seats in the National Assembly.

| altblurb2 =

| sources = [https://www.reuters.com/world/surinames-ruling-party-opposition-nearly-tied-parliamentary-election-2025-05-26/ Reuters]

| updated =

| nominator = Moraljaya67

| creator =

| updaters =

| nom cmt = The target article is a little bit stubby.

| sign = 𝗠𝗼𝗿𝗮𝗹𝗷𝗮𝘆𝗮𝟲𝟳 (talk). 02:55, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

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== RD: Phil Robertson ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = Phil Robertson

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5318412-phil-robertson-died-duck-dynasty/ The Hill]

| updated =

| nominator = Ad Orientem

| updaters =

| nom cmt = Reality TV star (Duck Dynasty) and conservative religious figure. Article is not in dreadful shape, but needs a few cites.

| sign = Ad Orientem (talk) 03:19, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

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== (Ready) 2025 Indianapolis 500 ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = 2025 Indianapolis 500

| image = File:Alex Palou at 2024 Chevrolet Detroit Grand Prix.jpg

| blurb = In motor racing, Álex Palou wins the Indianapolis 500.

| recent deaths = no

| ongoing = no

| ITNR = yes

| sources = [https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6382013/2025/05/25/indianapolis-500-winner-alex-palou/ The Athletic – NYT]

| updated =

| nominator = Casablanca Rock

| creator = 45BearsFan

| updaters = Assadzadeh, Byboyd1, Waluigithewalrus, Buttons0603

| nom cmt = Article can use some work in expanding prose related to the race itself, but is otherwise solid.

| sign = Casablanca 🪨(T) 00:28, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

  • Oppose Not seeing any prose for the actual race. Palou's article likewise needs work too. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:53, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality Needs a race summary in prose and probably less of the pointless race stats. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:00, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Strong Support Article has been massively expanded since it was nominated, incredibly in depth. –DMartin 08:38, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

:*I did remove the wikilink to motor racing, don't think that's necessary. –DMartin 08:39, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

== RD: Peter David ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = Peter David

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://aiptcomics.com/2025/05/25/peter-david-dead-at-68/ AIPT]

| updated =

| nominator = Curbon7

| updaters =

| nom cmt = {{tqq|Legendary comic book writer}}.

| sign = Curbon7 (talk) 20:28, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

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:Support Article is of sufficient quality for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 08:38, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

:Comment A couple of the awards are not sourced. Masem (t) 12:09, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

:Support: Article seems fine Cambalachero (talk) 14:22, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

:Support Article is in good conditions. IDB.S (talk) 03:52, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

:Support - Ready to post. Jusdafax (talk) 09:27, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

  • Comment: Ready removed; as Masem mentioned above, a majority of the awards are not sourced. SpencerT•C 05:06, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

== (Review needed) 2024–25 Basketball Euro League Winner ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = 2025 EuroLeague Final Four

| image = Nigel Hayes 11 Fenerbahçe Basketbol Euroleague 20250325 (1).jpg

| blurb = In basketball, the 2024–25 EuroLeague concludes with Fenerbahçe winning the Final Four Playoff, and Nigel Hayes-Davis (pictured) awarded MVP.

| recent deaths = no

| ongoing = no

| ITNR = yes

| altblurb = In basketball, Fenerbahçe wins the EuroLeague Final Four, with Nigel Hayes-Davis (pictured) awarded MVP.

| altblurb2 =

| sources = https://www.euroleaguebasketball.net/en/euroleague/game-center/2024-25/as-monaco-fenerbahce-beko-istanbul/E2024/330/, https://www.euroleaguebasketball.net/en/euroleague/news/final-four-mvp-nigel-hayes-davis-fenerbahce-beko-istanbul/

| updated = yes

| nominator = Zafer

| creator =

| updaters = H001 2000

| nom cmt =

| sign = Zafer (talk) 19:10, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

:Comment, there needs to be a bolded article. History6042😊 (Contact me) 19:32, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

:: The article is 2025 EuroLeague Final Four, I've fixed the blurb. Black Kite (talk) 19:41, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

::: ... which hasn't even been updated, so Oppose. Black Kite (talk) 19:41, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

:Note that 2024–25 Basketball Champions League is different from this one, I would highly suggest that the section title be changed. Howard the Duck (talk) 19:37, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

:: Yes, done. Black Kite (talk) 19:42, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

  • Oppose The article seems quite poor with feeble sourcing, much of which seems to be self-published. Andrew🐉(talk) 22:16, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :Which specific sources are "feeble" or self-published? euroleaguebasketball.net is the official league website, so for the sake of argument, even if it is self-published, it's still suitable in an WP:ABOUTSELF manner. Left guide (talk) 23:00, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :The rest appear to be major news organizations, so I don't see how they can be unreliable in the context of basketball content, unless there is evidence of them knowingly having published uncorrected basketball-related falsehoods. Left guide (talk) 02:25, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
  • ::Not seeing the major news orgs. Al Jazeera, BBC, CNN, DW, France24 – none of them seem to have covered this even though they may have dedicated pages for basketball news. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:36, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :::[https://www.bbc.com/turkce/articles/cje7dlygj94o BBC], [https://www.france24.com/fr/sports/20250525-euroligue-de-basket-monaco-s-incline-en-finale-face-%C3%A0-fenerbah%C3%A7e France24], [https://rsport.ria.ru/20250525/basketbol-2019017708.html RIA], [https://www.antenna.gr/Sports/article/4/960968/final-four-protathlitria-eyropis-i-fenermpaxtse ANT], [https://sportdaten.sportbild.bild.de/basketball/basketball-euroleague/ma11102693/as-monaco_fenerbahce/liveticker/ Bild], [https://www.marca.com/baloncesto/euroliga/as-monaco-fenerbahce/2025/05/25/02_0203_20250525_13240_8113-directo.html Marca], [https://telegrafi.com/en/Fenerbahce-is-declared-Euroleague-champion--defeating-Monaco-in-the-final/ Telegrafi.com], [https://www.olympics.com/en/news/euroleague-final-four-2025-full-preview-stars-to-follow-schedule-how-to-watch Olympics.com] news links. Regards, Zafer (talk) 09:21, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
  • ::::Also, as it's an WP:ITNR event, the only consideration for posting is article quality, as notability of the event has been previously agreed. If you disagree, start a discussion at WT:ITN, but this should not inhibit this nomination (if article quality is addressed). Joseph2302 (talk) 16:20, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality a one paragraph match summary (plus one paragraph of stats and.post event things) is not enough to meet WP:ITNQUALITY. And half the matches covered on that target article have zero match summary either. Too many tables, not enough prose. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:46, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Support: ITNR item that meets WP:ITNQUALITY with plenty of well-referenced prose; significantly improved since [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2025_EuroLeague_Final_Four&oldid=1292243599 the version when the last oppose !vote was registered]. Left guide (talk) 00:09, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :I've also added an altblurb option for brevity. Left guide (talk) 06:01, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :Support, it has been expanded. History6042😊 (Contact me) 00:11, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

== RD: Alan Yentob ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = Alan Yentob

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy8dp75gw8lo], [https://www.theguardian.com/media/2025/may/25/alan-yentob-former-bbc-executive-tv-presenter-dies]

| updated = yes

| nominator = Pigsonthewing

| updaters = Rodericksilly

| nom cmt =

| sign = Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:51, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

:Not yet ready There are a few CN tags. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 13:08, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

  • Oppose Article's sourcing quality needs some work done on it. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 17:02, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Support Comprehensive and well-sourced. Further sources now added. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:00, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Support Looks ready. Pawnkingthree (talk) 22:43, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Is there anything now preventing this from being posted? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:59, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

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== RD: Marcel Ophuls ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = Marcel Ophuls

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://apnews.com/article/marcel-ophuls-obit-97-sorrow-pity-62b2980366b5e3327af7537f1d8129d9 AP News], [https://www.theguardian.com/film/2025/may/26/marcel-ophuls-dies-filmmaker-death-aged-97 The Guardian], [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/26/movies/marcel-ophuls-dead.html?unlocked_article_code=1.KU8.B1vl.Y0ICrXooYO1W NYT]]

| updated = yes

| nominator = Abebenjoe

| updaters = Abebenjoe, Kelisi

| nom cmt = Important documentary filmmaker, Academy Award winner. Decent start-level article

| sign = User:Abebenjoe talk 00:10, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

== RD: Andrew Shaw ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = Andrew Shaw (television executive)

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.1news.co.nz/2025/05/27/former-childrens-tv-presenter-media-executive-andrew-shaw-dies/ 1news]

| updated = yes

| nominator = Schwede66

| updaters =

| nom cmt = Needs some expansion. Article looks good after some recent expansion.

| sign = Schwede66 00:10, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

== RD: Susan Brownmiller ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = Susan Brownmiller

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/8975443/brownmiller-author-of-the-landmark-rape-book-dies/ Canberra Times][https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/24/books/susan-brownmiller-dead.html The New York Times]

| updated = 25 May 2025

| nominator = Hawkeye7

| updaters = Hawkeye7, TDKR Chicago 101, Zaslav

| nom cmt = Feisty feminist author. Article is in good shape.

| sign = Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:21, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

== (Posted) 2025 Cannes Film Festival ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = It Was Just an Accident

| image = Jafar cannes 2025 cropped.jpg

| blurb = It Was Just an Accident (director Jafar Panahi pictured) wins the Palme d'Or at the Cannes Film Festival.

| recent deaths = no

| ongoing = no

| ITNR = yes

| altblurb =

| altblurb2 =

| sources = [https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/movies/story/2025-05-24/jafar-panahi-it-was-just-an-accident-palme-dor-cannes-film-festival-awards LA Times]

| updated =

| nominator = Moraljaya67

| creator =

| updaters =

| nom cmt =

| sign = Moraljaya67 (talk) 03:17, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

  • Support Good media coverage. Jeeputer Talk 08:05, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Support Great! ArionStar (talk) 15:56, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Comment per ITNR, as this blurb has it correct, the winner of the award should be the bolded article. The Cannes article is nowhere close to being of quality for ITN as its pretty all much tables with little prose. Masem (t) 17:33, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

:*Note that I've updated the article parameter to make the winning film the target article. Schwede66 02:37, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

  • Support Nice. IDB.S (talk) 14:36, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Support The target article is of sufficient quality to post. FlipandFlopped 20:12, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

:Marked as ready. History6042😊 (Contact me) 02:01, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

  • PostedSchwede66 01:50, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

==Arsenal win the Women's Champions league==

{{ITN candidate

| article = 2025 UEFA Women's Champions League final

| image =

| blurb = Arsenal defeat FC Barcelona to win the UEFA Women's Champions League.

| recent deaths = no

| ongoing = no

| ITNR =

| altblurb2 =

| sources =

| updated =

| nominator = Sportsnut24

| creator =

| updaters =

| nom cmt = Biggest tournament in women's club soccer. If it is not ITNR, it should be. {{redacted|Comment that could plausibly be seen as transphobic.}}

| sign = Sportsnut24 (talk) 19:01, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

  • Comment, this is not ITNR. History6042😊 (Contact me) 19:31, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
  • OMG I though they upstaged Spurs! Howard the Duck (talk) 19:38, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Support while is not ITNR as its male counterpart, it's still significant enough for posting as a blurb. 103.111.102.118 (talk) 22:13, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose Needs a match summary. The last year's UEFA Women's Champions League final was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&oldid=1227192506 posted on June 2024]. Moraljaya67 (talk) 03:45, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :As The Guy Who Adds Match Summaries... I'm still aiming to improve last year's final article. But since the match was basically "both teams hoofed the ball back and forth until Arsenal scored", I'm sure anyone else could contribute a short match summary. Kingsif (talk) 14:08, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

:Oppose not ITNR Scuba 04:47, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

::Read directly above you. That is not a reason. Most of what is posted is NOT ITNR.Sportsnut24 (talk) 14:03, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

:Support on notability, article quality is poor though Kowal2701 (talk) 14:53, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

  • Oppose in quality, neutral on significance. Target article has not enough prose e.g. absolutely no match summary. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:49, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Support on notability, oppose on quality per Kowal and Kingsif above. FlipandFlopped 20:13, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

:@Moraljaya67, @Scu ba, @Kowal2701, @Joseph2302, and @Flipandflopped, I added a match summary and I support. History6042😊 (Contact me) 02:29, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

== RD: Malini Fonseka ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = Malini Fonseka

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.adaderana.lk/news.php?nid=108815 Ada Derana] [https://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/movies/sri-lankan-actor-malini-fonseka-dies/article69613974.ece The Hindu]

| updated =

| nominator = Titanciwiki

| updaters =

| nom cmt = One of the most prolific actresses in the history of Sri Lankan Cinema, also a former Member of Parliament (2010-2015)

| sign = Titanciwiki (talk) 20:23, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

:Not ready; body of the article is mostly cited, but awards and filmography are largely missing references. ForsythiaJo (talk) 21:49, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

== RD: Michael Roemer ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = Michael Roemer

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/24/movies/michael-roemer-dead.html The New York Times]

| updated = yes

| nominator = Judegr03

| nom cmt = Acclaimed independent filmmaker who left Nazi Germany as a Jewish child refugee, went on to win awards at the Venice Film Festival. Died May 20th but announced on May 25th, lengthy obituary in the NYT

| sign = Judegr03 (talk) 08:53, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

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== RD: Guy Klucevsek ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = Guy Klucevsek

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.washingtonpost.com/obituaries/2025/05/23/guy-klucevsek-accordion-dies/ Washington Post]

| updated =

| nominator = Thriley

| updaters = Vladimir.copic

| nom cmt = American accordionist and composer. Death announced 23 May.

| sign = Thriley (talk) 00:49, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

  • @Thriley I was just coming here to nominate this and you beat me to it! Support obviously. Vladimir.copic (talk) 00:55, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :I saw your additions and felt the need to nominate! Thank you for all the improvements. Thriley (talk) 00:56, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

== RD: Mary K. Gaillard ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = Mary K. Gaillard

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://physics.berkeley.edu/news/remembering-mary-k-gaillard-pioneering-theoretical-physicist-esteemed-educator-inspirational Berkeley]

| updated =

| nominator = Grimes2

| updaters =

| nom cmt = American theoretical physicist

| sign = Grimes2 22:00, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

:Support; long enough, and everything appears to be sourced. ForsythiaJo (talk) 21:45, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

==(Posted) RD: Sebastião Salgado ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = Sebastião Salgado

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/ilustrada/2025/05/morre-aos-81-anos-sebastiao-salgado-um-dos-maiores-fotografos-do-mundo.shtml Folha de S.Paulo], [https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250523-sebastiao-salgado-photojournalism-elevated-to-art France24], [https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2exym29pdo BBC], [https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2025/may/25/sebastiao-salgado-obituary Guardian], [https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/5/23/a-lens-on-poverty-and-the-environment-sebastiao-salgado-is-dead-at-age-81 Al Jazeera], [https://www.dw.com/en/sebastiao-salgado-monochrome-beauty/g-72660585 DW], [https://apnews.com/article/brazil-sebastiao-salgado-obituary-2dedc1ea2a8330288248a7cbd5a1095f AP]

| updated =

| nominator = ArionStar

| updaters = Borgenland

| nom cmt =

| sign = ArionStar (talk) 15:39, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

  • Support Sourced (also dob) and long enough. Dod not known, but announced on 23 May 2025 Grimes2 19:06, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :NYT obit states, that he "died on Friday (23 May 2025) in Paris. He was 81." Grimes2 19:13, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Support: well-sourced entry. -- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 19:24, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Support, article seems ready to me. Alexcalamaro (talk) 04:21, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
  • PostedSchwede66 01:31, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

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== (Posted) RD: Alfredo Palacio ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = Alfredo Palacio

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.eluniverso.com/noticias/politica/el-expresidente-alfredo-palacio-fallecio-a-los-86-anos-nota/ El Universo]

| updated = yes

| nominator = Alsoriano97

| updaters = Alsoriano97, Walffer, TDKR Chicago 101

| creator = AdobongPogi

| nom cmt = President of Ecuador between 2005 and 2007. I've been working on the article and I think it's ready, even though some touch-ups might be necessary.

| sign = _-_Alsor (talk) 18:36, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

  • Support Great work on expanding the article! I'm very appreciative that you expanded the article seeing as how we don't get a lot of RDs from Ecuadorians :) --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 18:42, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :Thanks you @TDKR Chicago 101! ;) _-_Alsor (talk) 10:33, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
  • PostedSchwede66 01:28, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

== RD: Daniel Williams ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = Daniel Williams (musician)

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/the-devil-wears-prada-daniel-williams-dead-plane-crash-1235979306/ Billboard]

| updated = yes

| nominator = 240F:7A:6253:1:3D98:364A:C7A6:20E8

| updaters = AdobongPogi

| creator = AdobongPogi

| nom cmt = Drummer for The Devil Wears Prada.

| sign = 240F:7A:6253:1:3D98:364A:C7A6:20E8 (talk) 03:57, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

== RD: Alasdair MacIntyre ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = Alasdair MacIntyre

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://dailynous.com/2025/05/22/alasdair-macintyre-1929-2025/ Daily Nous]

| updated =

| nominator = Thriley

| updaters =

| nom cmt = Scottish-American philosopher. Death announced 22 May.

| sign = Thriley (talk) 02:40, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

:Oppose Vast amounts of uncited material and little about the man versus his work. Bremps... 05:47, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

== RD: Mohammed Sinwar ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = Mohammed Sinwar

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/israeli-airstrike-that-killed-top-hamas-leader-in-gaza-hit-meeting-of-top-militants-1573fc00 The Wall Street Journal]

| updated =

| nominator = ElijahPepe

| updaters =

| nom cmt =

| sign = elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:48, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

  • Unclear confirmation of his death. So far, Israel claims it , but Hamas has not. Natg 19 (talk) 21:20, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

:The source is very clear that he was killed. "The airstrike killed Mohammed Sinwar, who was quietly buried days later, along with other top militants including Mohammad Shabana, the commander of the group's Rafah brigade, the officials said." elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:47, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

::The source you quoted says that it's an Israeli claim, which we should not treat as fact for obvious reasons. (t · c) buidhe 22:50, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

:::The "officials" in that quote are from Hamas and from Arabic countries. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:53, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

::::I do not have a subscription to the WSJ, but other news sources treat it as just an Israeli claim. We should wait for Hamas to release an official statement, confirming his death. Natg 19 (talk) 23:10, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

::::Just three days ago, a Hamas spokeman said he was still alive: [https://jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-854665?dicbo=v2-g9x5uo5] Natg 19 (talk) 23:18, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

:Oppose due to the uncertainty of whether he has actually died. Aydoh8[what have I done now?] 04:06, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

:Oppose Hamas denied his death and said that he is still alive 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 09:14, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

==Chagos Archipelago agreement==

{{ITN candidate

| article = Chagos Archipelago sovereignty dispute

| image =

| blurb = The United Kingdom transfers the Chagos Archipelago to Mauritius as part of a bilateral agreement resolving the islands' sovereignty dispute.

| recent deaths = no

| ongoing = no

| ITNR = no

| altblurb = The United Kingdom transfers sovereignty of the Chagos Archipelago to Mauritius as part of a bilateral agreement resolving the islands' sovereignty dispute.

| altblurb2 =

| sources = [https://www.bbc.com/news/live/clyvv04wk8zt BBC News]

| updated =

| nominator = Mr. Lechkar

| creator =

| updaters =

| nom cmt = The deal has now been allowed to go ahead by the courts, and it can be considered a case of territory handover, similar to Hong Kong.

| sign = Mr. Lechkar (talk) 16:00, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

  • A few issues here: 1) The nominated article hasn't changed since 15 May, so where is the updated content? 2) Didn't we post this story already, when the deal was announced last year? 3) It appears that what happened today was the formal signing, but I don't see any statement about when sovereignty will actually transfer. The BBC article linked above mentions that legislation will be required, so presumably it's a way off yet. When is the implementation due? Modest Genius talk 16:39, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

::This was nominated in Oct 2024 but not posted. It appears that this rolled off without a clear consensus, and with quality concerns. Natg 19 (talk) 17:35, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

  • Oppose The treaty is not yet in force. Would be worthy for ITN when it goes into force. GN22 (talk) 17:36, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

::I think this did go into effect today. [https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/22/uk/britain-chagos-islands-transfer-block-intl CNN] says "the British government has handed control of the strategically significant Chagos Islands to Mauritius". Natg 19 (talk) 17:41, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

:::The treaty clearly says that it does not go into effect today. GN22 (talk) 17:41, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

::::Where are you reading that it does not go into effect today? Natg 19 (talk) 17:44, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::This is the text of the [https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/682f25afc054883884bff42a/CS_Mauritius_1.2025_Agreement_Chagos_Diego_Garcia.pdf/ treaty]. It says it does not immediately go into force on page 11. GN22 (talk) 18:03, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

::::::Hmm, you may be right. The text says {{tq|This Agreement shall enter into force on the first day of the first month following the date of receipt of the later note by which the Parties notify each other that they have completed their respective internal requirements and procedures necessary for the entry into force of this Agreement, unless the Parties agree otherwise.}} (which would indicate June 1) However, this is in the news "today", so it is relevant now. Unfortunately, there are quality concerns (like usual). Natg 19 (talk) 18:12, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

  • Comment Both the Chagos Archipelago and Chagos Archipelago sovereignty dispute articles have orange tags. Natg 19 (talk) 17:39, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality orange tagged articles cannot be posted. Think it probably does meet significance requirements. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:22, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Support on notability, oppose on quality Orange tags are prohibitive, but a territory handover of this nature strikes me as somewhat inherently notable. Regardless of when it technically will go into effect, it is ITN now, which is what matters: it has extensive coverage across continents. Support posting once the tags are addressed. FlipandFlopped 23:58, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Shouldn't the dispute be the link that's bolded? Abductive (reasoning) 08:32, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

:Wait until June 1, when the agreement comes into force. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 03:48, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

::Yes, wait until whenever the treaty actually comes into force. GN22 (talk) 05:05, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

:wait makes sense to wait (although the counter-point is elections are posted before taking office). At any rate, [https://newsmoris.com/2025/05/22/chagos-archipelago-sovereignty-mauritius-and-uk-sign-historic-deal/ mauritius is celebrating]. Weird, since the new PM said he din't accept the previous agreement, especailly Diego Garcia.Sportsnut24 (talk) 18:11, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

==(Closed) 2025 killing of Israeli Embassy in Washington, D.C. workers==

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{{ITN candidate

| article = 2025 killing of Israeli Embassy in Washington, D.C. workers

| blurb = A shooting kills two employees of the Embassy of Israel, Washington, D.C. (pictured)

| image = Embassy of Israel in Washington, D.C.jpg

| sources = [https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/israeli-embassy-washington-dc-shooting-05-21-25 CNN],[https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9vgrkdje1ro BBC]

| nominator = Spworld2

| creator =

| updaters =

| nom cmt =A shooting that killed two employees of the Embassy of Israel, Washington, D.C.

| sign = Spworld2 (talk) 10:27, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

  • Oppose the last thing we need is more United States content without a demonstrated long term impact. (t · c) buidhe 06:39, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Note: As evidenced by the article protection and talk page tag, this topic falls under WP:ARBPIA which has an WP:ECR restriction, meaning only extended-confirmed users may participate here. Left guide (talk) 07:37, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Buidhe. This is a terrible crime for sure, but there's no predicted long-term impact right now and no evidence it is part of a wider terrorist plot.  — Amakuru (talk) 07:48, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

:Oppose for what Amakuru said. We currently have no information regarding this being part of a terrorist plot and we do not know yet what was the exact motivation of this horrible attack. WreeperPHX (talk) 10:08, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

  • Oppose. Unless this spirals out into something that either rises above the typical mass shooting in the US or something extraordinary in the ongoing conflict in the Middle East, this isn't ITN-level. It's possible it might turn out that way, but at this point it hasn't. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 10:45, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose. This is tragic for those involved, but unfortunately murders by gunshot are a common occurrence in the US. The impact here is likely to be similar to the Nantes stabbing a few weeks ago (which was rejected from ITN): a short burst of media coverage but no broad or long-term impact. Modest Genius talk 11:31, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose as per Modest. A tragedy for the families of those two individuals. But the context of this is: Gaza war. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:40, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
  • I can’t say much else (to avoid WP:NOTFORUM), other than this comment uncomfortably reads like a justification, and I’d recommend you strike it. The Kip (contribs) 13:15, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :You would dispute that this is the context, i.e. direct reason, why this has happened? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:18, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
  • ::I would dispute that an attack on a Jewish event hosted by a Jewish museum in which the seemingly randomly-chosen victims happened to be Israeli was “contextual,” yes. I might be more inclined to agree if it was at the embassy itself. The Kip (contribs) 13:22, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :::Then we have a different perspective of what the consequences of the continued Gaza War might be. Did you want me to strike my entire !vote, or just part of it? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:26, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
  • ::::The “context” remark is the problematic part in my view; it almost normalizes the idea that violence against American Jews should be expected due to the (horrifying) actions of a nation-state half the world away. I have no issue with your oppose vote, considering I also voted oppose. The Kip (contribs) 13:32, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :::::Given that the suspect, Elias Rodriguez, reportedly chanted "Free, free Palestine!", I don't really see how these two things can be unconnected. I'm sorry if this means my comment reads like "a justifcation". Perhaps "context" is the wrong word. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:37, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
  • ::::::Listing off the Palestinian death toll of the war as the context reads to me as if you’re at best slightly callously implying this attack was irrelevant/not encyclopedically notable, given the differing scales, or at worst implying it was justified entirely, given the nationality of the victims. That’s what makes me uncomfortable; if you’d simply mentioned the war might’ve motivated it/that it’s part of a greater pattern of violent incidents relating to the war, I’d feel less so. The Kip (contribs) 13:47, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :::::::I'd like to reiterate that I am not seeking to imply "it was justified entirely". I think it is surprising that there have been just two deaths of Jewish people like this in America when 67,877 Palestinians have reportedly been killed in Gaza. I'm sorry if that makes you feel uncomfortable. For the avoidance of any further accusations of WP:FORUM, if you would like me to change the link to simply read "Gaza war", then I will do that. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:55, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
  • ::::::::We shouldn't be politicizing in our supports or opposes at ITN or anywhere, that's the NOT FORUM issue. Trying to equate or compare these two deaths to what's happened in gaza has zero advancement of whether this should be posted at ITN, and instead drives this to be covered by arbcom sanctions if it continues that way. Masem (t) 14:01, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :::::::::The alleged perpetrator seems to have been trying to make a political point. It doesn't look like this was a completely random killing of people who were coincidentally Jewish, in a coincidentally Jewish location. I'm sorry if that means I am "politicizing my oppose at ITN." Martinevans123 (talk) 14:19, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
  • ::::::::{{tq| I think it is surprising that there have been just two deaths of Jewish people like this in America when 67,877 Palestinians have reportedly been killed in Gaza}}
  • ::::::::With all due respect, this reads similarly to the callousness I noted in the “at best” bit. There shouldn’t be a competition, we can have sympathy for both the war’s many Palestinian victims and two Jewish murder victims.
  • ::::::::Changing the link would make me feel less uncomfortable, yes. The Kip (contribs) 14:02, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :::::::::I'm not proposing a "minimum number of Jewish deaths" before any similar such incident can be posted at ITN. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:14, 22 May 2025 (UTC) p.s. perhaps Violent incidents in reaction to the Gaza war should be at ITN/Ongoing. Although the unanimous response to not post this one incident here may suggest not.
  • Oppose Absolutely tragic instance of antisemitic violence, but thankfully limited in scale; seconding Amakuru. The Kip (contribs) 13:15, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose - Welcome to the US. — EF5 13:18, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose not terrorism related, just one crazed gunman. Very unlikely to become an international incident. Masem (t) 13:21, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

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== (Posted) RD: Marthe Cohn ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = Marthe Cohn

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.washingtonpost.com/obituaries/2025/05/22/marthe-hoffnung-cohn-dead/ WaPo]

| updated =

| nominator = Nsk92

| updaters = Nsk92, Gerda Arendt

| nom cmt = A famous Jewish spy in Nazi Germany, died at the age of 105.

| sign = Nsk92 (talk) 00:23, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

:Oppose for now needs more citations. Aydoh8[what have I done now?] 00:38, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

  • Comment I cleaned up the article, added some sources and took care of all of the cn tags. I believe the article is in good enough shape now for RD posting. Nsk92 (talk) 16:01, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
  • : Thank you. I came to nominate after updating, - thank you for having done that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:20, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • ::Thank you. Marking the nomination as ready. The article is well updated by now. Nsk92 (talk) 15:32, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Support Unusual life story. Article ok. Grimes2 16:37, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
  • PostedSchwede66 01:20, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

== (Closed) 2025 Khuzdar school bus bombing ==

{{atop|Consensus will not develop to post. Stephen 05:41, 28 May 2025 (UTC)}}

{{ITN candidate

| article = 2025 Khuzdar school bus bombing

| image =

| blurb = A suicide school bus bombing in Khuzdar, Balochistan, Pakistan, leaves 9 people dead and 53 others injured.

| recent deaths = no

| ongoing = no

| ITNR = no

| altblurb =

| altblurb2 =

| sources = [https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/5/21/at-least-four-children-killed-in-southwest-pakistin-blast Al Jazeera]

| updated =

| nominator = ArionStar

| creator =

| updaters =

| nom cmt =

| sign = ArionStar (talk) 14:18, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

:Oppose as terrorist attacks happen all the time in Pakistan as there is an ongoing insurgency, and this one only killed seven. Also, the article could use some help. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 20:26, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

::Nine now. ArionStar (talk) 17:50, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

:::Still a low number for just one of the attacks that usually occur with higher fatalities. Also, the nine number is including the perpetrator. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 04:41, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

::::WP:MINIMUMDEATHS? ArionStar (talk) 22:01, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

::Agreed. Oppose 675930s (talk) 12:01, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

:Support Veritasphere (talk) 18:45, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

  • Strong Support There is enduring worldwide coverage and geopolitical ramifications: see e.g. [https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/05/23/pakistan-school-bus-bombing-india/90ba6caa-37d3-11f0-9c9e-0db2d748bea7%20story.html 1] [https://www.thestar.com/news/world/asia/3-girls-and-2-soldiers-killed-in-pakistan-school-bus-bombing-are-buried/article_b8f06fbb-e4ce-552c-a077-7217ce738541.html 2] [https://www.arabnews.com/node/2601873/pakistan 3]. The article is also in good shape. FlipandFlopped 22:14, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Bloxzge. Terrorist attacks are common in Pakistan and nine fatalities is not a high toll. Real impact on ongoing conflict between PK and India is still unknown. _-_Alsor (talk) 21:38, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :Eleven now. ArionStar (talk) 15:59, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Strong Oppose per Bloxzge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fahads1982 (talkcontribs)
  • Oppose per Bloxzge. IDB.S (talk) 14:34, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Oppose per above. The Balochistan conflict has been escalating over the past several years, this isn't a supremely unique occurrence. The Kip (contribs) 03:22, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

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==(Posted) RD: Jim Irsay ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = Jim Irsay

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45259729/indianapolis-colts-owner-ceo-jim-irsay-dies-65]

| updated =

| nominator = Jbvann05

| updaters =

| nom cmt =

| sign = Jbvann05 23:58, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

:Not yet ready There are some CN tags. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 04:03, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

:Oppose for now/Conditional Support once the CN tags are fixed. INeedSupport :3 04:50, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

  • Looks good now, support. Natg 19 (talk) 18:28, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
  • PostedSchwede66 02:28, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

== (READY) RD: Gerry Connolly ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = Gerry Connolly

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.washingtonpost.com/obituaries/2025/05/21/gerry-connolly-virginia-congressman-dead-obituary/]

| updated =

| nominator = Muboshgu

| updaters =

| nom cmt =

| sign = – Muboshgu (talk) 14:07, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

== RD: Andriy Portnov ==

{{ITN candidate

| article = Andriy Portnov

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://news.sky.com/story/aide-to-former-ukrainian-president-shot-dead-in-madrid-13372008 Sky News], [https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukrainian-ex-politician-shot-dead-outside-madrids-american-school-source-says-2025-05-21/ Reuters], [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/21/former-ukrainian-politician-andriy-portnov-shot-dead-outside-madrid-school The Guardian]

| updated = yes

| nominator = Abcmaxx

| updaters =

| nom cmt = Long article, well cited.

| sign = Abcmaxx (talk) 12:56, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

:Not Ready Death/Asassination section needs more info and citations. 2606:9400:98A0:92A0:984E:8CCC:55D8:2929 (talk) 19:17, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

::What more info would you expect given this looks like a criminal underworld assassination? Abcmaxx (talk) 19:33, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

  • I've placed six citation needed tags. Schwede66 02:19, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

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