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==Sir winston hcurchill==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. — JJMC89 (T·C) 00:58, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Sir winston hcurchill }} → :Winston Churchill  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sir_winston_hcurchill&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-06-07&end=2019-07-06&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Sir_winston_hcurchill stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Sir winston hcurchill|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Sir winston hcurchill closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Sir winston hcurchill|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Sir winston hcurchill closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Sir winston hcurchill|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Sir winston hcurchill closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Unlikely misspelling. Steel1943 (talk) 23:06, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Not a normal typo, and certainly not a natural misspelling. — the Man in Question (in question) 00:27, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete This is not a normal typo and is probably vandalism. AmericanAir88(talk) 14:36, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 01:03, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

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==Fruity Loops Mobile==

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:The result of the discussion was keep

. Consensus was established that the name exists and is a plausible search term. (non-admin closure) ComplexRational (talk) 22:12, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Fruity Loops Mobile }} → :FL Studio Mobile  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fruity_Loops_Mobile&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-06-07&end=2019-07-06&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Fruity_Loops_Mobile stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Fruity Loops Mobile|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fruity Loops Mobile closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Fruity Loops Mobile|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fruity Loops Mobile closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Fruity Loops Mobile|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fruity Loops Mobile closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Name doesn't exist. Eurohunter (talk) 21:20, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

  • Keep "FL" stands for "FruityLoops" so this seems like a reasonable search for someone to make when searching for the mobile variant.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 22:37, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep It's not an official name, but even after all these years some people still call FL Studio "Fruity Loops" in conversation. I could foresee someone hearing that there's a mobile version of FL and typing the wrong name in search of it here. Chiafriend12 (talk) 00:45, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
  • {{re|Zxcvbnm}} {{re|Chiafriend12}} It's not official name or is not even used in media so there is no source for it. It's OR. Eurohunter (talk) 18:04, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
  • It's not WP:OR, that is patently incorrect. In the main FL Studio article, the very first line says that it was "formerly known as FruityLoops". This is a derivative article of that, so it's a perfectly believable search for somebody to make.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 20:28, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep per {{u|Zxcvbnm}} discussion above. ~Kvng (talk) 13:14, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

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==Финальная Фантазия: Легенда кристаллов==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. — JJMC89 (T·C) 00:58, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Финальная Фантазия: Легенда кристаллов }} → :Final Fantasy: Legend of the Crystals  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%A4%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B8%D1%8F:_%D0%9B%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%B0_%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-06-07&end=2019-07-06&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=%D0%A4%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B8%D1%8F%3A_%D0%9B%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%B0_%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Финальная Фантазия: Легенда кристаллов|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Финальная Фантазия: Легенда кристаллов closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Финальная Фантазия: Легенда кристаллов|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Финальная Фантазия: Легенда кристаллов closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Финальная Фантазия: Легенда кристаллов|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Финальная Фантазия: Легенда кристаллов closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Violates WP:FORRED. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 20:24, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

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==All-Atomic Comics==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. — JJMC89 (T·C) 00:58, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Not mentioned at target. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:10, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Unless I'm missing something there was no such section in that article when the redirect was created, it was merely referenced in an image caption. The only other reference I can find is another image caption at Peak uranium, but I don't think that justifies a redirect. PC78 (talk) 10:19, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

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== C6H14N2O4Pt ==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. — JJMC89 (T·C) 00:58, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = C6H14N2O4Pt }} → :Carboplatin  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=C6H14N2O4Pt&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-06-07&end=2019-07-06&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=C6H14N2O4Pt stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:C6H14N2O4Pt|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#C6H14N2O4Pt closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:C6H14N2O4Pt|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#C6H14N2O4Pt closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:C6H14N2O4Pt|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#C6H14N2O4Pt closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

C6H14N2O4Pt was created by mistake: formula of Carboplatin is …H12… not …H14…. There is no molecule in enWiki (more exactly: in my list of 15282 formulas extracted from chemical infoboxes of enWiki) with formula C6H14N2O4Pt2. I propose to delete it. Gyimhu (talk) 18:25, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

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==Strippergate (Israel)==

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:The result of the discussion was keep

. Sources provided justifying the redirect, withdrawing nomination. (non-admin closure) signed, Rosguill talk 01:04, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Strippergate (Israel) }} → :Yair Netanyahu  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Strippergate_(Israel)&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-06-07&end=2019-07-06&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Strippergate_%28Israel%29 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Strippergate (Israel)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Strippergate (Israel) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Strippergate (Israel)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Strippergate (Israel) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Strippergate (Israel)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Strippergate (Israel) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

The consensus at a previous AfD was that this should be deleted, not redirected to Yair Netanyahu. Converting to a redirect was explicitly suggested by a participant in that discussion but it did not win consensus. signed, Rosguill talk 18:06, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

  • Keep: the term "Strippergate" was used in several English news outlets to refer to the Netanyahu tape: [https://sputniknews.com/viral/201805221064698002-yair-netanyahu-scandals-history/ Sputnik News][https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-yair-netanyahu-strip-club-20180112-story.html Chicago Tribune][https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/167805-180216-netanyahu-s-family-s-long-history-of-scandals i24news][https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/strippergate-everything-you-need-to-know-1.5730348 Haaretz][http://www.palestinechronicle.com/israel-anti-netanyahu-strippergate-protesters-flood-tel-aviv/ Palestine Chronicle][https://www.timesofisrael.com/fathers-under-attack/ Times of Israel]. German wikipedia has an article on Strippergate as well: :de:Strippergate (Israel). Zerach (talk) 19:44, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

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==New Orleans Eagles==

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:The result of the discussion was speedy keep

. Sources were provided to justify the redirect and no delete votes remain standing, withdrawing nomination. (non-admin closure) signed, Rosguill talk 20:34, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = New Orleans Eagles }} → :Newark Eagles  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=New_Orleans_Eagles&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-06-07&end=2019-07-06&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=New_Orleans_Eagles stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:New Orleans Eagles|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#New Orleans Eagles closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:New Orleans Eagles|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#New Orleans Eagles closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:New Orleans Eagles|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#New Orleans Eagles closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

The team doesn't ever appear to have been based in New Orleans, nor was I able to find any evidence that this was otherwise used as a nickname for the team. signed, Rosguill talk 17:56, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete. This redirect may cause confusion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:48, 7 July 2019 (UTC) Keep per Bison X. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:05, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Sorry about that, I have a tendency to update things off line and only add them later. I guess the redirect was added too quick. Anyway, all sourced up now: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Newark_Eagles&action=historysubmit&type=revision&diff=905240515&oldid=874444082]. Rgrds. --Bison X (talk) 21:19, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep now that User:Bison X has updated the target and resolved the issue. - Eureka Lott 18:56, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

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==National Religious Affairs Administration==

File:Symbol move vote.svg Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 July 16%23National Religious Affairs Administration

==〷==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. — JJMC89 (T·C) 00:59, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = 〷 }} → :X  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E3%80%B7&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-06-07&end=2019-07-06&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=%E3%80%B7 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:〷|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#〷 closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:〷|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#〷 closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:〷|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#〷 closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

This would appear to be the [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E3%80%B7 Chinese character for a telegraph line feed]. It should not redirect to X. signed, Rosguill talk 17:44, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete As an unlikely redirect.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 22:39, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. --Lenticel (talk) 01:04, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

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== [[Module:Synthlisten]] ==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. — JJMC89 (T·C) 01:01, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

{{moved from|Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2019 July 7#Module:Synthlisten|* Pppery * ... ... ... 13:53, 7 July 2019 (UTC)}}

  • {{no redirect|1 = Module:Synthlisten }} → :Module:Listen  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module:Synthlisten&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-06-07&end=2019-07-06&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Module%3ASynthlisten stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Module:Synthlisten|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Module:Synthlisten closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Module:Synthlisten|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Module:Synthlisten closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Module:Synthlisten|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Module:Synthlisten closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

Unused module for deprecated (merged) template without any meaningful content (just an import). ~~Ebe123~~ → report 12:08, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

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  • {{ping|Ebe123}} Wrong venue Should be at RfD, as modules that do nothing but import another module are functionally redirects. * Pppery * ... ... ... 13:17, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Twinkle did not like my attempt :) RFD is much more focused on proper WM redirects, and not pages that act as one. As it is still a Module, I found this to be the better venue. ~~Ebe123~~ → report 13:33, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
  • {{ping|Ebe123}} Template redirects go to RfD, therefore module redirects like this one should also go to RfD. The fact that Twinkle doesn't understand this is indicative only of a bug in Twinkle; there are very few users working to clean up the module namespace, so bugs can go unnoticed. * Pppery * ... ... ... 13:39, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Be bold then! I don't much care where the discussion happens; just that it does, and this seemed suitable. Also, aren't template redirects just wikitext redirects in the Template namespace? That is the substance of my last comment (without response), showing that even as this is functionally a redirect, it is not a redirect in the WP sense of the word. ~~Ebe123~~ → report 13:47, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
  • :{{ping|Pppery}} Also, no need to ping me for each reply; I'll get to them :) ~~Ebe123~~ → report 13:48, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

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  • Delete - the module was merged and should have been deleted right after the merge completed as is common with modules. --Gonnym (talk) 13:26, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per Gonnym. * Pppery * ... ... ... 13:53, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

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==Calling All My Lovelies==

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:The result of the discussion was keep

. (non-admin closure) ComplexRational (talk) 21:48, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Calling All My Lovelies }} → :24K Magic (album)  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Calling_All_My_Lovelies&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-06-07&end=2019-07-06&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Calling_All_My_Lovelies stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Calling All My Lovelies|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Calling All My Lovelies closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Calling All My Lovelies|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Calling All My Lovelies closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Calling All My Lovelies|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Calling All My Lovelies closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Delation as it contains contain nontrivial edit history, being reasonably old, never released as a single or got promotion as such, not notable or used in other pages across wikipedia. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 09:49, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

  • Keep. It doesn't appear to refer to anything else so I don't see any basis for deletion. PC78 (talk) 10:41, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep - Redirects from album track names (that aren’t notable for standalone articles) are a thing. This is fine to exist.—NØ 14:56, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep. Perfectly valid {{Tl|R from song}}. Steel1943 (talk) 23:11, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

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==Wikipedia:CANSANFRANBANFRAM==

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:My bad. Shouldn’t have done it. Self closure keep

. (Oh, and I didn’t look at the previous discussion. Major screw-up.) (non-admin closure) Oshawott 12 ==()== Talk to me! 13:07, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Here we go again. Another semi-useless and kinda long redirect. Unneeded humour. Oshawott 12 ==()== Talk to me! 08:40, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

  • Keep. I can't think of an example of 'needed humour' - this isn't hurting anyone, and WP:R#KEEP 5 - if someone finds it useful, it probably is. GirthSummit (blether) 08:46, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep. When Oshawott says {{tq|Here we go again}}, I assume that to be an admission that, yeah, this could be seen as trolling, but what the hell. These things have already been argued to bits, and it was clearly established that redirects that did not name individuals are less than problematic. Making no comment on the necessity or otherwise for a humor police.——SerialNumber54129 08:49, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep For goodness’ sake. Since when do we delete things for being “semi-useless”? Triptothecottage (talk) 11:29, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

:{{ping|Serial Number 54129}} I assume it was not your intention to remove the notification at WT:FRAM of this RFD. Triptothecottage (talk) 11:29, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

::{{reply|Triptothecottage}} of course not, but thanks for pointing it out to me: now reversed. Cheers, ——SerialNumber54129 11:55, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

  • Keep, of course. No valid reason for deletion given, and this nomination appears somewhat pointy to me. In addition humour is sorely needed. --bonadea contributions talk 12:00, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep - "{{xt|Here we go again}}" - Indeed, Here we go again wasting our lives on trying to make this a much humourless project as possible. I'm sure your time could be better spent on 1 of the 5 million articles we have, Obvious keep. –Davey2010Talk 12:01, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Please let editors dissipate their angst with humor. Jehochman Talk 12:09, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

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==David Lieberman==

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:The result of the discussion was disambiguate -- JHunterJ (talk) 13:16, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = David Lieberman }} → :Liebermann  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_Lieberman&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-06-07&end=2019-07-06&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=David_Lieberman stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:David Lieberman|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#David Lieberman closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:David Lieberman|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#David Lieberman closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:David Lieberman|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#David Lieberman closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Redirects to a disambig page that doesn't mention "David Lieberman". I have never seen this type of redirect before on Wikipedia and can't see the use. Should be deleted. Zerach (talk) 06:08, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

  • Retarget to Dave Lieberman. [Or go with BD2412's proposed disambiguation.] — the Man in Question (in question) 13:00, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
  • There are several people with the name: the founder of David Lieberman Artists' Representatives, a co-founder of Ambassadors Group, as well as several other people/characters mentioned here and there in the encyclopedia. – Uanfala (talk) 21:34, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Note: I've reverted a WP:BADNAC by {{u|Serial Number 54129}} after a request on my talk page. As Uanfala's comment shows, this isn't an obvious decision and deserves discussion. -- Tavix (talk) 22:38, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Note {{u|Tavix}} you're behaving like one of the most pointless administrators on this project; any reason you think you have much to provide? Feel free to waste anyone's time that you like. ——SerialNumber54129 22:44, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
  • {{u|Serial Number 54129}} I also note that the only !vote to retarget to Dave Lieberman has no reason given. Is Dave Lieberman ever known as David? It may be the case that one of the Davids Uanfala mentioned is as likely or more likely to be the topic sought, so a full discussion is needed to figure out what to do. -- Tavix (talk) 23:03, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
  • If there are multiple possible targets with no likely primary topic, creating a disambiguation page at this title would be reasonable. We should never point a redirect to a disambiguation page for a topic not covered on the page. bd2412 T 22:46, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete Would cause confusion as there is no one on Wikipedia with that exact name, but others with similar names.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 22:47, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Note - I have disambiguated the page, but I have reverted my close of the discussion per request by Tavix, who notes the technically unresolved question of whether there is a primary topic of the term. bd2412 T 23:20, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
  • {{ping|The Man in Question|Zxcvbnm}} - please see my proposed disambiguation of the title. bd2412 T 23:39, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
  • I do not object to BD2412's disambiguation. — the Man in Question (in question) 23:45, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Runs down the aisle I object! In all seriousness though, I don't see the need for a disambiguation when everything in it is a partial title match. It should simply be deleted as disambiguations should only differentiate between conflicting duplicate titles. Wikipedia has a search function, let people use it.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 01:08, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
  • There are two direct title matches (though these are by WP:DABMENTION, not freestanding articles), one person whose first name is a variation of "David", one person who was formerly known as David Lieberman, and one fictional character whose fictional given name is "David Lieberman". These were the only five I could find after a thorough search, so I would tend to think that anyone looking for "David Lieberman" in the encyclopedia either intends to find one of those five, or some person for whom we have no article, and who will therefore not be found at all. bd2412 T 01:45, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Disambiguate. Thanks BD. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:02, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

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