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:The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
:The result of the discussion was delete.
--BDD (talk) 17:57, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- {{no redirect|1 = DQw4w9WgXcQ }} → :Rickrolling (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=DQw4w9WgXcQ&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-09-01&end=2019-09-30&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=DQw4w9WgXcQ stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:DQw4w9WgXcQ|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#DQw4w9WgXcQ closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:DQw4w9WgXcQ|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#DQw4w9WgXcQ closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:DQw4w9WgXcQ|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#DQw4w9WgXcQ closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
This is a procedural nomination. The redirect was tagged for WP:G1 and WP:G3 by {{u|Rosguill}} and deleted by {{u|RHaworth}} but challenged by {{u|RoySmith}} on the grounds that the title is a YouTube ID, specifically https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ - which takes you to the official Never Gonna Give You Up video that has been the target of Rickrolls for years. I am neutral. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 18:10, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
- Delete – no usage history here on Wikipedia, and an internet search would suggest that other than an Urban Dictionary entry (and matches for articles literally linking the whole URL) this isn't used as a way to refer to rickrolling. signed, Rosguill talk 18:25, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I'd categorize my objection as strongly as challenged, but I did observe that as something that has a subreddit devoted to it, and an entry in Urban Dictionary, it's probably not that unlikely a search term. And it's not really WP:G1 or WP:G3 either. The current redirect to Rickrolling is a little confusing because the string isn't mentioned in the target article, but that can be fixed. So, since we're here, Keep per WP:CHEAP, with the proviso that a (very short) mention of the string be included in the target article. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:27, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
::I do agree that the speedy criteria don't apply in hindsight. At the time, I thought this was a totally random string itself intended as a rickroll. signed, Rosguill talk 18:29, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
:::PS, [https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=DQw4w9WgXcQ,rickroll google trends] shows this is used as a search term about 10% as often as rickroll. Not huge, but not nothing either. I'm totally mystified (and somewhat amused) at the fact that only people in New York and California seem to search for it. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:32, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. Per point 8 of WP:RFD#DELETE, this is a rather obscure search string even though its target is unambiguous, and it will not help anyone except those who search by copying and pasting. I find no evidence that this ID is particularly significant—these IDs are not commonly known or referred to—and I will note that even the most viewed YouTube videos don't have such redirects. ComplexRational (talk) 20:45, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
- Comment: {{no redirect|jNQXAC9IVRw}} apparently exists for Me at the zoo. Should that be nominated? Geolodus (talk) 06:47, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
::Interesting. Do we have some way to access the wikipedia search history to see how often that's actually used? My own googling turns up less for that than for DQw4w9WgXcQ, but what really matters is how often people use it to search on wikipedia. On the other hand, WP:CHEAP. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:07, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
:::{{ping|RoySmith}} The only numerical evidence is [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2018-10-01&end=2019-10-01&pages=JNQXAC9IVRw pageviews], showing 17 in the past year and suggesting not-too-common usage of this redirect. ComplexRational (talk) 19:56, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. Of course, we don't want redirects for every YouTube code, but as RoySmith points out this one does have uses outside YouTube and I'd say therefore is a special case (as jNQXAC9IVRw might be too). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:24, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
{{resize|91%|Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943 (talk) 14:06, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
- Delete LOL! I had to chuckle at the nom's comment on the reason for why the PROD was challenged. Are there any Wikipedia articles for YouTube videos with associated redirects for the YouTube ID? If there are, perhaps we need to do some clean up... Doug Mehus (talk) 19:52, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
::{{re|Dmehus}}. I can find 3. There's this one, jNQXAC9IVRw mentioned above, and from redirects to members of :Category:2010s YouTube videos and :Category:2000s YouTube videos there's _OBlgSz8sSM. Even allowing for a lack of categorization, it's not really a problem. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:15, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
- Keep per RoySmith, who has provided evidence of usage. -- Tavix (talk) 22:06, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
- Delete: Did someone let the cat on the keyboard? Because that's what it looks like to me. As such, it is an unlikely search term. flowing dreams (talk page) 11:41, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. This is very close to being patent nonsense. While [https://youtube.com/watch?v=DQw4w9WgXcQ] does link to Never Gonna Give You Up on YouTube, the URL clearly isn't intended to be memorized by a human being, and looks like nonsense at first glance. InvalidOS (talk) 12:08, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. We aren't the YouTube Wikia. Steel1943 (talk) 22:46, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.
