. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 02:48, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
- {{no redirect|1 = File:C I D.jpg }} → :File:C I D. (1956 movie poster).jpg (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:C_I_D.jpg&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-01-18&end=2020-02-16&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=File%3AC_I_D.jpg stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:File:C I D.jpg|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#File:C I D.jpg closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:File:C I D.jpg|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#File:C I D.jpg closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:File:C I D.jpg|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#File:C I D.jpg closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
This is essentially a procedural nomination for {{u|Kailash29792}} who had nominated this file redirect at MfD in this discussion, and then at FfD in this discussion as vague and ambiguous. I personally happen to agree; thus, per WP:R#D2 and WP:XY, I'm recommending we delete this useless file redirect. As well, it's unclear whether :File:C I D. (1956 movie poster).jpg will also be nominated by the nominator, but I do note it's tagged as non-qualifying non-free image tagging. So, if that is deleted before this, then this can be speedy deleted per G8. Doug Mehus T·C 15:42, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:FILEREDIRECT, considering this redirect is a {{Tl|R from move}}. Steel1943 (talk) 15:47, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
- Comment With the greatest of respect to Steel1943, I do note that there's no indication WP:FILEREDIRECT supercedes WP:R. Moreover, even if it did, there's no history to preserve, so this can be deleted per WP:COMMONSENSE, which I note is a suprapolicy in that it is said to be above all other policies and guidelines. This is just housekeeping. Doug Mehus T·C 15:52, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
- ...WP:FILEREDIRECT exists for none of the reasons you just stated; it exists to prevent linkrot in external webpages from happening ... which has a rather high potential to happen with this redirect if it is deleted since this redirect has existed for [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:C_I_D._(1956_movie_poster).jpg&diff=511640206&oldid=448434384 over 7 years]. Steel1943 (talk) 15:56, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Since :File:C I D.jpg does not have any mainspace incoming links, and is a rather unacceptable file name, let's just delete it. Don't ask why, ask why not. Kailash29792 (talk) 16:02, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
::::Great job there completely ignoring my comment, and making no effort whatsoever to dispute it. Steel1943 (talk) 16:08, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::I think that's a bad policy, to be honest. Other websites don't concern themselves with link rot in Wikipedia articles, so we have to have things like the Internet Archive bot to attempt to rescue such links. Moreover, Google does a very good job of updating the links in search results. Doug Mehus T·C 16:10, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
::::{{Edit conflict}} Seriously Kailash29792, if you are going to keep making or supporting nominations like these ... as you have been for a few years now ... why don't you just go to Wikipedia talk:File mover (the talk page of the page WP:FILEREDIRECT targets) and start an WP:RFC to get the section Wikipedia:File mover#File redirects removed or rewritten? Since WP:FILEREDIRECT exists in its current form, every time I see a nomination like this, I'm going to vote for "keep" per this existing policy ... because, for one, it exists, and for two, because I'm not convinced that it's wrong. Steel1943 (talk) 16:15, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::Comment Oh, it looks like Steel1943 already knows Kailash29792, and there's some history here. I do note that Kailash29792 has file mover permissions, so why not just move the file without leaving a redirect? For what it's worth, I do note that a Google site search for the URL returns only 1 URL, and using [https://ahrefs.com/backlink-checker this backlink URL checker], the only inlink is from Indian Wikipedia. So, I don't see any linkrotting here. I think we can make an exception here to WP:FILEREDIRECT, per WP:COMMONSENSE, since no other websites link to this file. This would solve the ambiguity issue here in the URL. Doug Mehus T·C 16:20, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per Steel1943. In fact, I find the redirect title is easier to digest than the current title. -- Tavix (talk) 17:54, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
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::I agree with you there, Tavix, in that the current title is improperly punctuated and not that well named, but my concern is that would this redirect pass our naming conventions for the file? That is, can filenames be ambiguous and it's essentially "first kick at the can"? If so, then I'm wondering if maybe we should't rename the target file back to this file name redirect, suppressing the trailing redirect for the convoluted long filename? Doug Mehus T·C 17:57, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
:::File naming conventions is not something I care about, and is tangential to deciding whether or not to keep the redirect. I please ask that you at least attempt to do your required research before firing off a bunch of questions unrelated to the subject at hand and muddying the waters even further. -- Tavix (talk) 18:07, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
::::Fair enough. Let's collapse this discussion as it isn't helpful. Doug Mehus T·C 18:20, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
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