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==Internet Security Barrier X6==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. signed, Rosguill talk 21:13, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Internet Security Barrier X6 }} → :Intego#Products  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Internet_Security_Barrier_X6&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-05-21&end=2020-06-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Internet_Security_Barrier_X6 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Internet Security Barrier X6|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Internet Security Barrier X6 closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Internet Security Barrier X6|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Internet Security Barrier X6 closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Internet Security Barrier X6|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Internet Security Barrier X6 closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Not mentioned at the target 2pou (talk) 14:48, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 22:37, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

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==Tiny car==

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==Large city==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. signed, Rosguill talk 21:09, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Large city }} → :Megacity  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Large_city&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-05-28&end=2020-06-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Large_city stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Large city|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Large city closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Large city|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Large city closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Large city|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Large city closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

WP:OR. Settlement hierarchy, for example, says otherwise (but doesn't provide an alternate target). Clarityfiend (talk) 21:54, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Keep Megacities are large cities. Not seeing the problem. Andrew🐉(talk) 00:09, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Reply. Tom Cruise is a superstar. Should superstar redirect to him? (Denzel Washington and some others would be annoyed.) Clarityfiend (talk) 05:15, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • That's not a good analogy. Superstar is a general noun, while Tom Cruise is specific. Large city and Megacity are both general. Pandakekok9 (talk) 05:46, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • It's good enough. A is B does not imply B is A. Or a megacity is only an example of a large city. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:57, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete Megacity has an objective definition; "large city" does not. I'm sure people are going to apply this label to any sufficiently large city (e.g. Toronto, pop. 2.7M) that is not necessarily a megacity (metro area pop ≥ 10M). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:56, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete, too vague. —Xezbeth (talk) 06:00, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete as vague. No clear definition or quantity that defines "large". ComplexRational (talk) 01:48, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete, too colloquial --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:42, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

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==Ecological burial/funeral==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to Natural burial. signed, Rosguill talk 19:54, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Ecological burial }} → :Promession  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ecological_burial&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-05-28&end=2020-06-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ecological_burial stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Ecological burial|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ecological burial closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ecological burial|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ecological burial closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Ecological burial|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ecological burial closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Ecological funeral }} → :Promession  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ecological_funeral&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-05-28&end=2020-06-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ecological_funeral stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Ecological funeral|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ecological funeral closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ecological funeral|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ecological funeral closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Ecological funeral|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ecological funeral closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Ecological Funeral }} → :Promession  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ecological_Funeral&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-05-28&end=2020-06-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ecological_Funeral stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Ecological Funeral|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ecological Funeral closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ecological Funeral|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ecological Funeral closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Ecological Funeral|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ecological Funeral closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Promession is only one of the many body disposition ways that are called "ecological burial/funeral" (like Alkaline hydrolysis (body disposal)), thus these redirects are incorrect. Wikisaurus (talk) 21:17, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

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==Draft:Wuhan Coronavirus 2019==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. signed, Rosguill talk 19:54, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Draft:Wuhan Coronavirus 2019 }} → :COVID-19 pandemic  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Wuhan_Coronavirus_2019&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-05-28&end=2020-06-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Draft%3AWuhan_Coronavirus_2019 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Draft:Wuhan Coronavirus 2019|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Draft:Wuhan Coronavirus 2019 closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Draft:Wuhan Coronavirus 2019|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Draft:Wuhan Coronavirus 2019 closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Draft:Wuhan Coronavirus 2019|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Draft:Wuhan Coronavirus 2019 closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Another cross-namespace redirect that likely should not exist. Zoozaz1 20:59, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete. This is an abandoned draft. Not sure why {{u|MarkZusab}} chose to redirect instead of letting it WP:G13 delete as it expired. Technicaly it has history, but since it's in the draft space and would qualify for G13 if it were restored, I think just deleing it now is fine. −2pou (talk) 03:15, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

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==Draft:Corona Chasers==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. signed, Rosguill talk 19:53, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Draft:Corona Chasers }} → :COVID-19 pandemic  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Corona_Chasers&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-05-28&end=2020-06-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Draft%3ACorona_Chasers stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Draft:Corona Chasers|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Draft:Corona Chasers closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Draft:Corona Chasers|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Draft:Corona Chasers closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Draft:Corona Chasers|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Draft:Corona Chasers closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

I really don't know why this cross-namespace redirect exists, and I don't think this is an appropriate or common redirect. Zoozaz1 20:58, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete, I guess. They are WP:CHEAP, and this WP:NEOLOGISM is in the draft space, so it's not going to pop up in any standard searches to mislead anyone, but we're already here now, so might as well finish it. As to why, the history shows that it was a single edit account trying to create a brand new term, and it eventually was redirected, presumably as a valid WP:ATD. —2pou (talk) 02:26, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete. After being exposed to the term "bugchaser", I am guessing that this refers to people who either want to get infected by COVID-19 or just really, really want to crack open a cool refreshing can of Corona beer. The current target (not a section redirect either) doesn't have the word "chaser" or mention a group of people who want to be infected. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:16, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

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==Korona pandemic==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. signed, Rosguill talk 19:53, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Korona pandemic }} → :COVID-19 pandemic  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Korona_pandemic&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-05-28&end=2020-06-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Korona_pandemic stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Korona pandemic|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Korona pandemic closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Korona pandemic|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Korona pandemic closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Korona pandemic|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Korona pandemic closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

This is an uncommon misspelling of Corona pandemic, which itself is an uncommon phrasing. Over the past 30 days, there have been 7 pageviews. Zoozaz1 20:55, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Weak keep It does get some uses, but for news sources I only got [https://www.google.com/search?q=%22korona+pandemic%22&tbm=nws three]. I'm not sure whether it's enough for it to be kept. --Pandakekok9 (talk) 05:54, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete, rare misspelling. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:42, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Clearly an uncommon misspelling. CycloneYoris talk! 22:05, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

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==List of Famous Lies==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. signed, Rosguill talk 19:53, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = List of Famous Lies }} → :List of common misconceptions  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Famous_Lies&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-05-28&end=2020-06-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=List_of_Famous_Lies stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:List of Famous Lies|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#List of Famous Lies closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:List of Famous Lies|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#List of Famous Lies closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:List of Famous Lies|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#List of Famous Lies closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Not sure if "lies" should redirect to "misconceptions". 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 19:13, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Famous doesn't mean common either. The average reader would probably expect something like [https://www.topteny.com/top-10-most-famous-lies-in-history/ this], except without the top 10 part. --Pandakekok9 (talk) 05:59, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

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==Gun Girl==

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:The result of the discussion was keep

. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 22:14, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Gun Girl }} → :Kaitlin Bennett  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gun_Girl&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-05-28&end=2020-06-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Gun_Girl stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Gun Girl|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Gun Girl closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Gun Girl|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Gun Girl closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Gun Girl|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Gun Girl closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Could also be used for the many other female shooters or gun owners with articles 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk) 19:00, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

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==Liberty Hangout==

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:The result of the discussion was keep

. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 22:08, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Liberty Hangout }} → :Kaitlin Bennett  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Liberty_Hangout&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-05-28&end=2020-06-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Liberty_Hangout stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Liberty Hangout|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Liberty Hangout closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Liberty Hangout|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Liberty Hangout closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Liberty Hangout|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Liberty Hangout closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Redirects to a reporter for the website not sure why 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk) 18:46, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Keep. I'm going in depth because {{u|1.Ayana}} asked {{tq|not sure why}}. Ms. Bennett is the only notable person associated with this website. One can learn a lot about Liberty Hangout from her article, including: 1) it is a far-right organization that she reports for, 2) that it was founded by her husband, 3) the website published interviews that Bennett conducted called "College Students Have No Morals" that received some attention, 4) the website "received criticism for statements on Twitter supporting Holocaust denial, monarchy, and disfranchisement". No other article has this kind of content, all other mentions are in references for articles associated with Darrell Castle and the Libertarian Party (US). -- Tavix (talk) 19:39, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep per the research done by {{u|Tavix}}. —2pou (talk) 01:33, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

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==William Gliesa==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. signed, Rosguill talk 19:53, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = William Gliesa }} → :Wilhelm Gliese  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=William_Gliesa&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-05-28&end=2020-06-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=William_Gliesa stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:William Gliesa|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#William Gliesa closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:William Gliesa|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#William Gliesa closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:William Gliesa|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#William Gliesa closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Seems unlikely. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 18:18, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Weak delete this redirect. While the {{Key|A}} and {{Key|E}} keys are really close to each other on a QWERTY keyboard (and adjacent to the {{Key|S}} key), thus creating potential plausibility, it doesn't seem to be used that much, having attained [https://pageviews.toolforge.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&range=all-time&pages=William_Gliesa 35 pageviews since July 2015]. Regards, SONIC678 20:06, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

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==Los diez fugitivos más buscados por el FBI==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. — Wug·a·po·des​ 02:46, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

No specific association with Spanish, delete per WP:RLOTE signed, Rosguill talk 18:06, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom and WP:RFOREIGN, these fugitives (past, present, and future) originate from a variety of countries, not all of which have Spanish as an official or widely spoken language. Regards, SONIC678 20:11, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:RFFL. Narky Blert (talk) 02:02, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

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==List of famous engineers==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to Lists of engineers. (non-admin closure) Mdaniels5757 (talk) 01:45, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = List of famous engineer }} → :Engineer  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_famous_engineer&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-05-28&end=2020-06-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=List_of_famous_engineer stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:List of famous engineer|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#List of famous engineer closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:List of famous engineer|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#List of famous engineer closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:List of famous engineer|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#List of famous engineer closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = List of famous engineers }} → :Engineer  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_famous_engineers&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-05-28&end=2020-06-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=List_of_famous_engineers stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:List of famous engineers|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#List of famous engineers closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:List of famous engineers|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#List of famous engineers closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:List of famous engineers|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#List of famous engineers closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Retarget to Lists of engineers or delete. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 16:20, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Comment: Adding the plural form List of famous engineers to the discussion, for which I'm thinking similar action might need to be taken. Working on it...done. Regards, SONIC678 16:42, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete List of famous engineer, there are more than one famous engineers. Neutral regarding List of famous engineers per my response on another "famous" redirect below. -- Tavix (talk) 17:06, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Retarget per nom. They have to be famous/notable enough to be noted on the list anyway. Ed6767 talk! 17:29, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Retarget per nomination, the poor grammar in the first is not a big enough issue to make it worth deleting. Thryduulf (talk) 19:58, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Both of these redirects are very old, so don't delete. Both of them were redirects to List of engineers, though they were retargeted to Engineer by DanMS and Timwi respectively, because at that time underscores weren't supported in redirect targets. At least, that's what I thought. Retargeting them back to List of engineers is the best option per above. --Pandakekok9 (talk) 06:03, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Retarget both per nom and I agree with Pandakekok9's comment above in that they're both quite old. No need for deletion. CycloneYoris talk! 22:13, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

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==Silas (football manager)==

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==Technical Black Films==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. signed, Rosguill talk 19:51, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Technical Black Films }} → :Jerry Bruckheimer  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Technical_Black_Films&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-05-28&end=2020-06-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Technical_Black_Films stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Technical Black Films|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Technical Black Films closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Technical Black Films|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Technical Black Films closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Technical Black Films|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Technical Black Films closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

No mention of the company at target. Delete to encourage article creation. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 15:45, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

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==101st Street Entertainment==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

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  • {{no redirect|1 = 101st Street Entertainment }} → :Peter M. Lenkov  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=101st_Street_Entertainment&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-05-28&end=2020-06-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=101st_Street_Entertainment stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:101st Street Entertainment|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#101st Street Entertainment closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:101st Street Entertainment|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#101st Street Entertainment closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:101st Street Entertainment|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#101st Street Entertainment closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

No mention of the company at target. Delete to encourage article creation. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 15:42, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

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==IOS 3.0==

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:The result of the discussion was keep

. — Wug·a·po·des​ 02:47, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = IOS 3.0 }} → :IPhone OS 3  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=IOS_3.0&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-05-28&end=2020-06-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=IOS_3.0 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:IOS 3.0|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#IOS 3.0 closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:IOS 3.0|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#IOS 3.0 closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:IOS 3.0|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#IOS 3.0 closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = IPhone OS 3.0 }} → :IPhone OS 3  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=IPhone_OS_3.0&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-05-28&end=2020-06-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=IPhone_OS_3.0 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:IPhone OS 3.0|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#IPhone OS 3.0 closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:IPhone OS 3.0|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#IPhone OS 3.0 closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:IPhone OS 3.0|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#IPhone OS 3.0 closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Not really described at target; retarget to IOS version history#iPhone OS 3. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 13:51, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Keep as it is because readers looking for those early versions of iOS will not necessarily know that it was called “iPhone OS” back in those days. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 15:10, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  • {{ping|Prahlad balaji}} I did never suggest deletion. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 15:44, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

:::{{ping|1234qwer1234qwer4}} Nono, I said let’s just keep it the way it is. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 15:45, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

:::: {{ping|Prahlad balaji}} Then I don't understand your argument. The suggested new target describes this exact version of iPhone OS 3, while the current article hardly mentions it. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 15:51, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

:::::{{ping|1234qwer1234qwer4}} I see your argument, now I have changed mine to retarget. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 17:19, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

:::::: {{ping|Prahlad balaji}} Thanks; could you do it in the discussion below as well for consistency, please? 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 17:34, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

{{od|::::::}} {{ping|1234qwer1234qwer4}} {{done}} ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 17:59, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Retarget per above. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 17:59, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep - the first sentence of the first paragraph starts with "iPhone OS 3 is the third major release of the iOS mobile operating system developed by Apple Inc.", and then mentions the "iPhone OS" -> "iOS" rename. If that's not sufficient to explain why "iOS 3.0" goes there, explain further, as per my suggestion in the discussion of the iOS 1.0 redirect. As for "iPhone OS 3.0", yes, there's currently no short release history in iPhone OS 3, although iOS 4 has one, but only has release-numbered subsections for update releases, so iOS 4.0 redirects to iOS 4, so I don't see the issue. Guy Harris (talk) 19:04, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  • {{ping|Guy Harris}} Do you understand my argument? It's not about the incorrect name, it's about the specific version 3.0, which is not described at the target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 10:36, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • {{ping| 1234qwer1234qwer4}} I understand it, I just don't agree with it. And iPhone OS 3#History now does mention iOS 3.0, just as iPhone OS 1#History mentions iOS 1.0. Guy Harris (talk) 01:44, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep. Like {{u|Guy Harris}} and the IOS1 nom below, I'm not really seeing the problem here. The content at the current target is fine. I guess the proposed retarget is as well, but why go to a subsection vice an article? Unless there is a desire to merge into the IOS version history (and i could potentially see that as a possibility) since it falls WP:WITHIN the scope, and there isnt a whole lot more at the target, but that's not for RfD. —2pou (talk) 02:07, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • {{ping|2pou}} There is almost no information specific to version 3.0 at the current target, while there is in the list. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 10:36, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • {{re|1234qwer1234qwer4}} In the infobox, I am seeing a big 3.0 in the image, and the archived website specifies 3.0. Then in the two sources for the initial release, 3.0 is in the title. I guess thats not necessarily in the base text... I imagine because the version info once lived here before being merged to the version history.
    I suppose that I'm somewhat neutral overall, though. Like i said, both are valid targets. I just feel like the current target gets you to the same info via the {{Tl|main}} link in what used to be a version history. If I were a page watcher, and this were boldly retargeted, I would not revert it. However, we should be consistent. Why is 3.0 being singled out? The same arguement can be made for all versions except the latest, 3.2.2 (and even that is only in the infobox). [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/IPhone_OS_3&hidelinks=1&hidetrans=1 Every redirect to this page] outside IOS 3 calls out a version number. —2pou (talk) 13:51, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • {{ping|2pou}} Oh wow, I didn't notice them; thank you. Apparently I only used the search suggestions. Yeah, I suggest they also be retargeted (as long as the version history exists separately from the major version articles). 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 17:29, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep per Guy Harris and 2pou. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. --Pandakekok9 (talk) 06:05, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

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==IOS 1.0==

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:The result of the discussion was keep

. signed, Rosguill talk 19:50, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = IOS 1.0 }} → :IPhone OS 1  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=IOS_1.0&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-05-28&end=2020-06-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=IOS_1.0 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:IOS 1.0|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#IOS 1.0 closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:IOS 1.0|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#IOS 1.0 closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:IOS 1.0|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#IOS 1.0 closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Not mentioned at target; retarget to IOS version history#iPhone OS 1. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 13:49, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Retarget per nom. Thryduulf (talk) 15:03, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep as it is because people looking for those early versions of iOS will not necessarily know that it was called “iPhone OS” back in those days. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 15:13, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  • {{ping|Prahlad balaji}} I did never suggest deletion. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 15:44, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

:::{{ping|1234qwer1234qwer4}} Nono, I said let’s not change it and let it be the way it is. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 15:48, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Retarget per 1234qwer1234qwer4. ◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 17:59, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep - the target says "iPhone OS 1 is the first major release of iOS"; if that's not sufficient, perhaps it should explain that "first major release of iOS" means "it'd have been iOS 1, but they didn't call it iOS yet". Guy Harris (talk) 18:58, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  • {{ping|Guy Harris}} Do you understand my argument? It's not about the incorrect name, it's about the specific version 1.0, which is not described at the target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 10:35, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • {{ping|1234qwer1234qwer4}} I understand it, I just think it's not a good argument; I don't see any problem with "iOS 1.0" going to an article about it-would-be-iOS-but-they-hadn't-renamed-it-yet 1. If somebody's ambitious, they could put a version history into the article and make it link there. Guy Harris (talk) 10:37, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • {{ping|Guy Harris}} I don't understand why you are referring to the fact the redirect says "iOS" instead of "iPhone OS" then. This is absolutely not the point. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 10:42, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • {{ping|1234qwer1234qwer4}} Just to ward off arguments that "I typed "iOS 1.0" but this page says "iPhoneOS 1", not "iOS 1"." would matter. Guy Harris (talk) 10:51, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • {{ping|Guy Harris}} What is your argument for not retargeting to a list where, as opposed to the article, the exact topic is mentioned? 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 10:54, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • {{ping|1234qwer1234qwer4}} 1) I'm not convinced that people looking for "iOS 1.0" are necessarily curious about that particular minor version - they may well just want information about the major release - so I'm not convinced the change adds much, and 2) for those who do want information about the minor release, that information should be put into the "{iPhoneOS,iOS} N" articles (and maybe iOS version history should be carved up and the pieces dropped into the "{iPhoneOS,iOS} N" articles) - that'd solve the "this article is too big" problem). Guy Harris (talk) 11:04, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • iPhone OS 1#History now has an "Introduction and initial release" subsection for iPhone OS 1.0, as well as an "Updates" subsection for subsequent releases. Guy Harris (talk) 22:16, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep. Like {{u|Guy Harris}}, I'm not really seeing the problem here. The content at the current target is fine. I guess the proposed retarget is as well, but why go to a subsection vice an article? Unless there is a desire to merge into the IOS version history (and i could potentially see that as a possibility) since it falls WP:WITHIN the scope, and there isnt a whole lot more at the target, but that's not for RfD. —2pou (talk) 02:04, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep per my !vote at the 3.0 RfD. --Pandakekok9 (talk) 06:07, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

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==South Mexico==

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==List of famous Ahmadis of Ahmadiyya Muslim Community==

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Section removed from target. Retarget to List of Ahmadis? 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 13:29, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

::Robert Southey savaged the misuse of the adjective "famous" in "After Blenheim" (1796). Narky Blert (talk) 03:05, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

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==IOS 15==

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  • {{no redirect|1 = IOS 15 }} → :IOS  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=IOS_15&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-05-28&end=2020-06-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=IOS_15 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:IOS 15|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#IOS 15 closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:IOS 15|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#IOS 15 closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:IOS 15|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#IOS 15 closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

This is a misleading redirect in that the target article provides no information about this topic. If I wanted to find specific information on iOS 15, I would be disappointed to end up at an article that doesn't have what I'm looking for. -- Tavix (talk) 01:32, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

:{{ping|Tavix}} Well, iOS 14 was created well before there was any content. Thanks, Thanoscar21talk, contribs 17:55, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

::If iOS 14 was created before there was any content, it should have been deleted at that time. If it wasn't, then that's an oversight, not an excuse to create another misleading redirect. -- Tavix (talk) 18:06, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

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