. signed, Rosguill talk 01:28, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- {{no redirect|1 = Hammersmith, Derbyshire }} → :Ripley, Derbyshire (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hammersmith,_Derbyshire&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2021-01-17&end=2021-02-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Hammersmith%2C_Derbyshire stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Hammersmith, Derbyshire|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Hammersmith, Derbyshire closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Hammersmith, Derbyshire|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Hammersmith, Derbyshire closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Hammersmith, Derbyshire|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Hammersmith, Derbyshire closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
Delete as confusing; started off as a 2008 Redirect, converted to a village description, then IP has edited (in 2013, deleting description/converting to a Redirect [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hammersmith%2C_Derbyshire&type=revision&diff=567649344&oldid=566276587 in this diff]) stating it is a street, not a place per se (see [https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Hammersmith,+Ripley/@53.0596037,-1.4128127,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x48798d607beb2a5f:0x4182a032599bda6f!8m2!3d53.0596005!4d-1.410624?hl=en Google maps search] and [https://www.google.com/maps/@53.0601539,-1.4104893,3a,75y,285.25h,69.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sK8cOA_1vBPztsRVYwRh-GQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en Google Streetview with Hammersmith metal street name-plaque]).
Hammersmith (disambiguation) has this redirect described from 2014 as ...a village in Derbyshire. Midland Railway – Butterley has piped links to Hammersmith and Hammersmith (station created as part of a steam railway tourist attraction) in consecutive sentences.
Confusing and unnecessary to have a redirect to a street name? Suggest deletion of Redirect, with Hammersmith railway station staying as it is a tangible place, of meaning to the heritage railway line. Rocknrollmancer (talk) 03:27, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- It is a settlement[https://www.geograph.org.uk/search.php?form=basic&q=%28anything%29&location=Hammersmith&go=Search...] not a street, it could perhaps have a separate article but otherwise the usual practice is to redirect to its parish and mention it. Crouch, Swale (talk) 22:12, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
:*Looking at :File:Hammersmith - geograph.org.uk - 1307521.jpg and photographer's description of what are asserted to be 'tied' accommodation, the only mention I've seen so far is at [https://www.rdht.org.uk/butterley-company/documentary-about-the-butterley-company/ the local history group]; being a very-recent Wordpress/WP:SPS non-RS, it's not really what WP wants, but if the assertions can be proven elsewhere then there should be some mention. Whether this is at Ripley or elsewhere is indeterminate, as Butterley seems just as vague as Hammersmith; I would be interested to learn just when this name was coined, historically. As a control I looked at Highoredish (Derbys) and Newton Town (Notts). I have a 120 OS map (probably 1970s) in the house with Ripley printed just off the left bottom corner in the margin, but no annotation for Hammersmith (insufficient space, really). rgds.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 18:46, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
::*Just wasted a lot more time trawling through the history to find {{U|Victuallers}} created several redirects/links to housing localities 22 April 2008 with no content at the target (Ripley), just a list of names ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ripley,_Derbyshire&diff=prev&oldid=207369165 example diff]); most were de-linked in 2012 [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/212.129.75.250 by an Irish IP] and then the whole list was removed in 2016 with the edit summary [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ripley%2C_Derbyshire&type=revision&diff=712152396&oldid=712152266 "removed - not recommended to have a list of hamlets/suburbs in the area"]. That's just a snippet; some redirects have been converted into articles since, but what a palaver. The upshot is no extant content for Hammersmith, Derbyshire in article space to link to. I'm done here.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 20:25, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
{{resize|91%|Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 17:53, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per Crouch, Swale above. Ordnance Survey have [https://getoutside.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/local/hammersmith-amber-valley Hammersmith, Amber Valley] listed as a placename. Wire723 (talk) 16:10, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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