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:The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
:The result of the discussion was delete Phone computer. No consensus for Computer phone due to the split !votes. However, due to the unusually strong opposition to disambiguation, I'm choosing to retarget to One Per Desk as the WP:BARTENDER. That said, perhaps a fresh discussion on that one may generate a stronger consensus for...something? -- Tavix (talk) 02:18, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
This seems overly technical. Nobody would really refer to smartphones as a phone computer outside of drawing some comparisons between smartphones and computers. Okmrman (talk) 04:04, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. This is what a smartphone is, and I wouldn't be surprised if the terms were used before "smartphone" became the established term (I can't check as Google is refusing to show me results that are both verbatim and before a given time, and either one alone is overwhelmed by irrelevant results where the two words happen to be adjacent, especially in lists in adverts). Thryduulf (talk) 18:43, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Comment shouldn't this actually link to telco equipment? Such as a PBX or other phone computers -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 07:20, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. The phrasing of these redirects makes me believe they could also refer to Modem, thus making these redirects ambiguous. Steel1943 (talk) 04:59, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- :I reaffirm my "delete" per {{No ping|Ivanvector}}'s comment: A disambiguation page would not be the solution since none of the subjects mentioned so far are title matches. Let Wikipedia search do its job instead. Steel1943 (talk) 16:51, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 15:04, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 11:07, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. I think it is easy for English first speakers (or young people) to say they aren't needed, but they probably serve some utility and they perfectly describe what they are. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 11:31, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- Dabify. As Steel mentioned, a viable interpretation of this would be Modem, being "a phone used by a computer". However, I'd also think that VoIP phone-- a phone that uses the Internet instead of normal phone lines-- or softphone-- a software program that could call other people, which could be downloaded and installed on a PC-- would be valid interpretations of "Phone computer" or "Computer phone". Given I'm sure none of the above- including Smartphone (a phone which is a computer)-- would be a primary target, dabification is warranted. edited at 14:52, 16 April 2024 (UTC) 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 12:03, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- :Comment continuing off of my already existing vote post: The way I see it, we have the following links to disambig between:
::* Modem, a device that allows a computer to access the internet using telephone lines
::* Smartphone, a cell phone that also has features analogous to a personal computer
::* VoIP phone, a phone that uses the Internet in leiu of normal phone lines
::* Softphone, a program allowing the use of a desktop or laptop computer to call others
::* Computer telephony integration, technology that allows interactions between a telephone and computer to be coordinated
::* Computerphone, also known as One Per Desk, a hybrid telephone and computer sold by Sinclair QL
::{{pb}}Someone searching these two prompts could be looking for any of the above. (Feel free to use this as the basis for a disambig page :3) 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 04:34, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - disambiguation pages are for topics that have the same title, not for manually compiled search indexes of possibly related keywords. We have a search engine for that, let it do its job. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:08, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 09:56, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Disambig - The modern context is the smartphone. The historical context is a computer that you dialed through your phone, computer telephony integration. See {{jstor|43915583}}. GobsPint (talk) 22:56, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Vague, ambiguous guesswork. Also per Ivanvector. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:17, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget Computer phone to One Per Desk to match Computerphone. Delete Phone computer per all as ambiguous but not suitable for a dab page. Jay 💬 18:16, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Disambiguate - given Jay's find of Computerphone pointing to One Per Desk, deletion seems undesirable as it would leave a redirect to a niche usage that is nevertheless justifiable as a search term and redirect. signed, Rosguill talk 19:40, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete both; these phrases are incredibly ambiguous and not really common parlance for anything. Oppose disambiguation for the same reasons. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 03:02, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget Computer phone and delete Phone computer per Jay. Computer phone should be kept since a plausible target for it exists, and due to its similarities with Computerphone. CycloneYoris talk! 17:53, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I'm happy with disambiguation or with keeping. In addition to the points made above, "phone computer" is a very plausible search term for "computerphone" from someone who has misremembered the name of the old technology. Thryduulf (talk) 17:03, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete The low page views(low utility) on both of the redirects show that it is not a common search term. Since it is vague and potentially confusing, keeping is not an option. I oppose DABbing since the potiential targets are only vaguely related to either of the terms. Ca talk to me! 00:16, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Vague and ambiguous. Disambiguating is not the correct solution for the reasons given by Ivanvector. TarnishedPathtalk 01:32, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
:The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).
