Wikipedia:Reference desk/Miscellaneous#Social Media Culture

U.S. stadiums

Hi. Why are American stadiums, unlike European ones, all without coverage? Thanks. 37.159.35.32 (talk) 09:08, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

: Your premise seems to be incorrect. See :Category:Covered stadiums in the United States. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 09:41, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

:American stadiums tend to be domed when the climate justifies it (too hot or too cold) and/or when they can afford it. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 11:53, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

::The only covered stadium I can think of in the UK (I stand to be corrected here) is the Centre Court at Wimbledon. Alansplodge (talk) 18:19, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

:::No 1 Court there does as well. Also, the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff has a retractable roof. --Antiquary (talk) 19:43, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

::::Okay, thanks. Three rooved stadia in a nation notorious for wet weather. Alansplodge (talk) 21:18, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

::Even in instances where a dome could in theory be afforded and the weather would seem to justify it, a stadium might eschew a dome specifically due to the inclement weather making for more interesting television and being part of the team's and region's identity. See: New Highmark Stadium. Amstrad00 (talk) 13:40, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

:::Similarly, Lambeau Field, though it hasn't always worked to the Packers' advantage. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:23, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

::A few more European covered stadia can be found in List of covered stadiums by capacity: note that of the 118 stadia worldwide that are listed, 42 are/were in the USA. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.2.101.226 (talk) 00:18, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

= May 12 =

No culture section on NFTs?

Hello there, after reading this article on non-fungible token, is there a reason on why there is no culture section about this page? Even though NFTs are a new technology, please explain on why the cultural impact is not included on this article? But for this, do NFTs have a culture, since art is considered culture? And is there a philosophy about NFTs and other cryptoart? 205.155.225.249 (talk) 18:43, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

:A section on the cultural aspects of Non-fungible tokens would have to have text based on published Reliable sources that discussed this specifically, at some length. Are there any such sources? Wikipedia cannot create or accept material that amounts to Original research or even synthesise material together from existing sources to reach new, previously unpublished conclusions.

:If you can indeed find appropriate sources, you are welcome to create a new section on the article's talk page and leave suggested text along with details of and/or links to the sources. (As an IP user [i.e. one without a Wikipedia Account] you won't be able to create a new article section and enter text etc. in it because the article is currently Semi-protected). {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.2.101.226 (talk) 19:18, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

:: It seems like a legitimate topic for a section; for reference, here are some potential sources:

::* {{cite web |title=NFTs in sport and culture: Artists, consumers and club reputations at risk from rise of crypo assets, MPs warn - Committees - UK Parliament |url=https://committees.parliament.uk/work/7038/nonfungible-tokens-nfts-and-the-blockchain/news/197847/nfts-in-sport-and-culture-artists-consumers-and-club-reputations-at-risk-from-rise-of-crypo-assets-mps-warn/ |website=committees.parliament.uk |publisher=UK Parliament |language=en |date=11 October 2023}}

::* {{cite web |last1=Kemp |first1=Joseph |title=The Gray Areas of NFT Culture |url=https://waysof.umbc.edu/the-gray-areas-of-nft-culture/ |website=waysof.umbc.edu |publisher=University of Maryland, Baltimore County}}

::* {{cite web |last1=Lin |first1=Zih-Ying |title=The effect of culture on global NFT investor attention |url=https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0927538X25000332 |website=Pacific-Basin Finance Journal |pages=102696 |doi=10.1016/j.pacfin.2025.102696 |date=1 April 2025}}

::* {{cite web |last1=Cole |first1=Jordan |title=The Impact of NFTs on the Digital Art World |url=https://blockapps.net/blog/the-impact-of-nfts-on-the-digital-art-world/ |website=blockapps.net |date=17 April 2024}}

::* {{cite web |last1=Behnam |first1=Tiffany |title=The Impact of NFTs on the Art Industry |url=https://pastel.network/the-impact-of-nfts-on-the-art-industry/ |website=Pastel Network |date=19 October 2023}}

::*{{cite web |last1=Omose |first1=Ikhalo |title=The Role of NFTs in Promoting Deaf Art and Culture: How Non-Fungible Tokens are Supporting the Preservation and Promotion of Sign Language |url=https://www.unspokenasl.com/aslblogs/the-role-of-nfts-in-promoting-deaf-art-and-culture-how-non-fungible-tokens-are-supporting-the-preservation-and-promotion-of-sign-language/ |website=Unspoken Language Services |date=16 October 2023}}

::* {{cite web |title=Impact of NFTs on Art & Culture |url=https://www.mishcon.com/news/impact-of-nfts-on-art-and-culture |website=Mishcon de Reya LLP |language=en |date=8 May 2025}}

::► There's plenty more

::--136.56.165.118 (talk) 06:55, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:::I still want more details about this culture of NFTs. What its like similar to Chinese, Japanese, or Korean culture? 205.155.225.249 (talk) 18:15, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

::::That sounds like a seriously flawed comparison. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:16, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::How can it be flawed? 205.155.225.249 (talk) 20:13, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

::::::Trying to compare national cultures with millions of adherents and which go back thousands of years. NFT's have been around for barely 10 years, and are probably of no interest to anyone except those who have invested in them. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:02, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::::I agree with you, NFTs are relatively new. 2600:1700:78EA:450:75E5:23D1:5B65:DBB4 (talk) 04:55, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

= May 14 =

Peach-colored sunsets

This is a weird one. I am a huge fan of peach-colored sunsets. And when I say huge, I mean, my two favorite things in life are San Francisco burritos and peach-colored sunsets. But they are somewhat rare, and even stranger, difficult to capture with photographs. We had one tonight where I live, and of course, I didn't get a photo. We maybe get a peach-colored sunset once a month, perhaps more, I don't know, but it's rare. I also noticed that the light doesn't last as long as other kinds of sunsets. As I was staring at the sunset, the peach seemed to fade immediately, which was odd. Not only can I not find an answer to this, but it's almost impossible to find a good photo. Are cameras not able to capture this color for some reason? Viriditas (talk) 10:49, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

:I google "peach colored sunset" and several examples turned up. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 11:32, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

: "Peach" as a color can be subjective, and sunset colors tend to transition among yellow/orange/pink, with "peach" being ephemeral. 136.56.165.118 (talk) 17:50, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

:: P.s.: You can make your own [https://www.freepik.com/premium-ai-image/photorealistic-image-peachcolored-sunset-serene-beach-captured-with-wideangle_85943077.htm (e.g.)] --18:06, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

:{{Edit conflict}} Color perception can be extremely subtle and somewhat subjective, and is still not fully understood. Matching directly perceived colours by indirect means, whether inks printed on paper, pixels on a screen or chemicals in a camera film, is difficult and rarely completely 'accurate' (whatever that would mean).

:It's particularly difficult to reproduce effects created in air by dust, water vapour and sunlight in a completely different medium. During a sunset, certain parameters like the exact angle of the sunlight through the atmosphere relative to the observer, the density, temperature and path length of the air it's passing through, and the presence, degree and nature of any water vapour and dust, will change from moment to moment. (See also Sunset#colors and Atmospheric optics.)

:A similarly fleeting sunset phenomenon you might like to look for is the Green flash. As someone with a lifelong (60 years) interest in astronomy and related subjects, I've seen this exactly three times, despite always looking for it when the conditions are right. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.170.37 (talk) 17:55, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

::Come to Hawaii, you'll see the green flash a lot. All you need is clear skies on the horizon and a bit of added elevation. None of the images up above depict the peachy sunset I'm talking about. It's more of a yellowish-greenish-pink, is the best I can describe it. Apparently, this is not classically peach, so part of the confusion is trying to find the right words. Looking elsewhere, I see it is known as minted peach or seafoam peach, but I still don't know if that's correct. Viriditas (talk) 21:44, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

:What colour is a peach? HiLo48 (talk) 23:49, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

::Yellow, pink, red, whites, orange, gold, etc. However, the kind of peachiness I'm seeing has touches of green, and this is apparently unusual. Most of the so-called peach sunsets are pinkish, and that's not what I'm talking about at all; we get those all the time. I'm getting the sense that I might be perceiving the world differently than most people. Viriditas (talk) 00:25, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

:Here on the outskirts of Melbourne, Australia our sunsets are often impacted by bushfire smoke and dust. The smoke can be from a serious fire nearby, or far away. (Up to several hundred kilometres) Today we have controlled burns nearby. (about 10 kms away). All these affect sunsets, in diverse ways, also depending on intensity of the smoke and wind direction. The dust can also be from a local source, or from hundreds of miles away. I could not count the range of colours we see in the sunsets. Some look peachy. HiLo48 (talk) 00:38, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

= May 15 =

Social Media Culture

Could anyone on Wikipedia describe on what is social media about and what their culture is like in modern times? How could social media be different than other subcultures in general? Can this have an effect on global world? Alternatively, would culture of social media include holidays, food, clothing, rituals, and media? Does this influence thinking? And for this, how can social media have an impact on national and local cultures, like India, Japan, Russia, South Africa, Sweden, Malaysia, China, and Mexico? Does culture have relavancy? 2600:1700:78EA:450:4537:9DB6:C80C:63DD (talk) 09:57, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

:Is this another of your homework questions? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 11:37, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

::No, this is not. 2600:1700:78EA:450:2406:5A80:A2E8:410D (talk) 16:37, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

:Yes, I'm sure there is someone on Wikipedia who could write a book of the necessary length to cover such diverse and complex questions. 207.11.240.2 (talk) 12:50, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

:I think this user was previously blocked. (Compare Special:Diff/1111211428 and Special:Diff/1290524651.)  ​‑‑Lambiam 14:17, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

::@Lambiam Hello there, that isn't me. It was someone else, this IP range changes periodically. Please take a look at there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2600:1010:B07E:C890:19BA:95A:4786:A68B

::And I never made these edits, it was from a mobile IP range. 2600:1700:78EA:450:2406:5A80:A2E8:410D (talk) 16:35, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

:::And this is shared by several users, I might be the one who added this [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1111211428]. But these range of IP address aren't me. And I never edited using this IP range in 2016-2019. And most of these edits from IP range do not belong to me. Here: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3A2600%3A1010%3AB000%3A0%3A0%3A0%3A0%3A0%2F40] 2600:1700:78EA:450:2406:5A80:A2E8:410D (talk) 16:46, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

::::So can you explain the fact that you added the exact same content today:

:::::{{color|darkred|In 2021, it was announced that the library named "Ocean Sea Public Library," the largest library in Asia, would open in Hong Kong with new variety of literary works and a museum connected.}}

::::as did another editor in the 2600:1010:... range, likewise geolocating to the Bay Area, with the same egregious separation of an existing reference from the referenced statement? Transtemporal channeling?  ​‑‑Lambiam 19:20, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::The same content was added in order to see if this content goes unnoticed and undetected for a while, and to see that if this kind of edit would last more than 2 years. That is it though. Transtemporal channeling would be a coincidence. 2600:1700:78EA:450:75E5:23D1:5B65:DBB4 (talk) 03:49, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

::::::It's refreshing to see trolling admitted to. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:38, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::::Again, the IP range blocked, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2600:1010:B000:0:0:0:0:0/40]

:::::::Was someone else from a different location, not me, because I stopped editing from this range after 2022. And all of these edits unrelated to libraries and Hong Kong, are not me. Since this shared range geolocated to various locations in this country, instead of the same location. 2600:1700:78EA:450:75E5:23D1:5B65:DBB4 (talk) 04:58, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

::::::::2600:1700:78EA:450:4537:9DB6:C80C:63DD (now blocked for block evasion) made edits yesterday, 15 May 2025, on these pages and sections (times in UTC):

::::::::* 09:45: Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language#No Navajo language classes? Why is this not visible on United States

::::::::* 09:46: History of libraries § 21st century

::::::::* 09:47: Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language#No Navajo language classes? Why is this not visible on United States?

::::::::* 09:48: Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language#No Navajo language classes? Why is this not visible on United States?

::::::::* 09:49: Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language#No Navajo language classes? Why is this not visible on United States?

::::::::* 09:51: Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language#How could a new technology shape the English language?

::::::::* 09:51: Wikipedia:Reference desk/Miscellaneous#Social Media Culture

::::::::* 09:57: Wikipedia:Reference desk/Miscellaneous#Social Media Culture

::::::::The one but last was the creation of this section. So you are claiming the edit at 09:46 was made by another editor than those at 09:45 and 09:47? It defies belief.  ​‑‑Lambiam 08:29, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

= May 16 =

How is Alaska different from rest of United States.

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Alaska, as an article, tells me about the facts and the history of Alaska. But this state Alaska has a culture very unique, which is Alaska Native culture, which is different from Native American cultures, due to climate and linguistic differences. Aside from native cultures and climate in ecology, how is Alaska still different from lower 48, in terms of modern culture? What are the brands and companies that are only found in Alaska, and not found in lower 48? Could Alaska be separate from Canada? 2600:1700:78EA:450:75E5:23D1:5B65:DBB4 (talk) 06:05, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

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= May 18 =

[[:n:Trainmen_and_engineers_go_on_statewide_strike_in_New_Jersey,_first_time_in_42_years]]

Requesting assistance with copyright. Is it acceptable to keep 2-3 sentences quote from external sources. (if not, you can edit and reword it) For a few years I have been at the site and collaborating, I have not understood what is a "safe" amount of quotes to shove on a page. Would appreciate a fresh cross-wiki perspective. Thanks. Gryllida (talk, e-mail) 12:30, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

:IMO, quoting several sentences verbatim from someone's public speech is less problematic than an extended quotation from a written work. Such quotations often need to several sentences to ensure the core message can be understood in its proper context, and any paraphrasing of spoken text needs to be done with extra care. Press statements and similar are even issued in the hope their content will be faithfully copied and their message thereby spread further.  ​‑‑Lambiam 19:22, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

::The Wikipedia rules on this are at Wikipedia:Quotations. To quote that page:

::{{xt|...quoting a brief excerpt from an original source can sometimes explain things better and less controversially than trying to explain them in one's own words.}}

::Alansplodge (talk) 21:51, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

= May 19 =

Explain on Print Encyclopedias

Why are there only few print encyclopedias being published today? And why isn’t Wikipedia making official and real print copies anytime soon? What is the purpose if they are going all digital? 107.115.29.138 (talk) 19:10, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

:Print media is right up-to-date the moment the contributors stop contributing and the editors stop editing. The manuscript then goes to the printers, and after printing in each language desired, the bulky, resource-intensive printed media is physically shipped hundreds and thousands of miles to warehouses. There, the bulk packages of books are broken down into smaller batches for distribution to wholesalers. After the books arrive at the wholesalers' warehouses, they they are distributed (usually by truck) to retailers. Once the books are on the retail shelves, customers -- some of whom may have pre-ordered, but most of whom will only see the edition after it is on the shelves -- purchase the book. It is then taken home (or to a library; adding additional delay) for use. This process takes months, during which time there is no updating. If one is lucky, the edition being consulted is only a year or so out-of-date. As for Wikipedia, the charm and beauty of it is that the last time the contributors stopped contributing and the editors stopped editing -- about five seconds ago -- is possibly the point at which it begins to go out-of-date. That process, however, stops when the next contributor / editor makes a change. DOR (ex-HK) (talk) 22:23, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

::More information about this print encyclopedia? 2600:387:F:4B16:0:0:0:9 (talk) 05:31, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

:Reading this thoroughly may help explain why Wikipedia isn't printed. More info on size here. And some ancient history relating to producing a version that could be printed. Btw, there was once a facility for producing books of Wikipedia articles that could be printed. That can still be done manually, with printing through specialized third parties, I believe -- but I've never had any interest in trying it. -- Avocado (talk) 12:44, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Farret's Head, Scotland

In a book on mental calculators, I read that George Parker Bidder as a young boy was asked by Queen Charlotte: "How many days would a Snail be creeping, at the rate of 8 feet per day, from the Land's End, in Cornwall, to Ferret's Head, in Scotland, the distance by admeasurement being 838 miles?" (He immediately gave the correct answer of 553,080).

I tried looking up "Ferret's Head", but I couldn't find any such named location in Scotland. I would assume it is another name for John o' Groats or perhaps Duncansby Head, and indeed the shortest route by car from Land's End to John o' Groats is 838 miles. Is anyone aware of such a location in Scotland named Ferret's Head? Dreykop (talk) 19:29, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

:After some further digging on the topic, I found that [https://web.archive.org/web/20220125012411/https://lionlocomotive.org.uk/lionsheart/LH10.pdf#page=4 some sources] actually spell it as "Farret's Head", but I still can't find any such place. Dreykop (talk) 19:53, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

::Possibly an egregious misreading of Dunnet Head, or a mishearing / alternative spelling of Faraid Head, or a confusion with Farr Point (no article)?

::[Edited to add] I favour Faraid Head myself. Depending on the source of the anecdote, it's possible that someone (perhaps unfamiliar with this remote Scottish location) misunderstood Queen Charlotte's strong German accent. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.170.37 (talk) 23:04, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

:::Yes, Faraid Head sounds best, though seems to me a rather unremarkable location to be used in such a question. Makes one wonder what's so interesting about it that Queen Charlotte would know that the distance to it is 838 miles. Also, just curious, how did you know all these places? Dreykop (talk) 04:56, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::Being an elderly Brit (who lived in Scotland for a while), I have general familiarity with the UK's geography, and I have various atlases and maps to hand. I just looked along the North Scottish coast for points and headlands with possibly relevant names. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.170.37 (talk) 13:26, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

::::Presumably, some published list of trivia that Charlotte had at her disposal contained an item like, "the longest distance between any two points on the island of Great Britain is between A and B, having been admeasured to be X miles". (Google Maps gives a walking distance of 804 miles.[https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Sennen,+United+Kingdom/58.603333,-4.775833/@54.3757284,-8.5348052,5z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m5!1m1!1s0x486ab84463e35c33:0x37e8d8c886a5ad5c!2m2!1d-5.6927695!2d50.0744458!1m0!3e2?hl=en])  ​‑‑Lambiam 07:19, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

:It looks like the speed of 8 feet per day was chosen to make the calculation easier and the distance of 838 miles (with the repeating digit 8) and the number of feet per furlong (with the repeating digit 6) also helps:

:\frac{838\,\mathrm{miles}\times 8\frac{\mathrm{furlongs}}{\mathrm{mile}}\times 660\frac{\mathrm{feet}}{\mathrm{furlong}}}{8\frac{\mathrm{feet}}{\mathrm{day}}}=838\times660\,\mathrm{days}=(11110\times(8\times6)+1100\times(3\times6))\,\mathrm{days}=553080\,\mathrm{days}

:There are only two multiplications, then some shift operations and addition of six numbers, each of which have only two non-zero digits. Although still impressive, not as impressive as it appears on first sight. Now I wonder, was this coincidence, was the queen a hobby mathematician who knew the tricks or is the story apocryphal? 8 feet per day is slow for a snail; most can cover that distance in less than half an hour. The number 838 could also be tuned. I doubt the distance was know to single mile accuracy and is was probably calculated by summing the lengths of many segments, with some intermediate rounding. PiusImpavidus (talk) 09:35, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

::Charlotte "assembl[ed] a significant library containing volumes on all kinds of intellectual pursuits, she collected natural history specimens and scientific instruments, and employed, funded or corresponded with both male and female scientists, often by means of intermediaries". See {{cite journal|last=Hansen|first=Mascha|date=6 July 2022|title=Queen Charlotte's scientific collections and natural history networks|journal=Notes and Records|publisher=The Royal Society|volume=77|issue=2|pages=323–336|doi=10.1098/rsnr.2021.0070|url=https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsnr.2021.0070}}. DuncanHill (talk) 09:48, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

selling car with above-water loan

Car is worth about $15K, outstanding loan is about $7K, owner is too cash-poor (and in other debt) to simply pay off the loan to get the title and sell the car. Is there a straightforward way to deal with that through the loan servicer? Find buyer and get some kind of document where the buyer pays the loan servicer and the seller? I have to think this is a standard type of transaction. I'm not the seller but just discussed it with her and am puzzled by the situation. Thanks. 2601:644:8581:75B0:8F01:9261:FCD:4BB9 (talk) 22:20, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

:Sell the car for the best price, then pay off the remainder of the debt. DOR (ex-HK) (talk) 22:26, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

::You can't sell the car without the title (official document saying you own the car), which is held by the loan servicer til the loan is paid off. This has to be a very common situation with a standard way to do the necessary juggling, something like escrow for a house sale. That's what I'm asking about. 2601:644:8581:75B0:8F01:9261:FCD:4BB9 (talk) 00:25, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

:Essential information for respondents: OP is based in the US (California).  ​‑‑Lambiam 06:40, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

:Here is a webpage on dealing with this issue: [https://www.lendingtree.com/auto/how-to-sell-a-car-when-you-still-have-a-loan/]. Some companies will buy a car with an outstanding loan; e.g. [https://www.carvana.com/sell-my-car], [https://www.autonation.com/sell-my-car]. For selling to a private party, perhaps some of the answers given [https://www.reddit.com/r/askcarsales/comments/r9scjr/how_do_i_sell_a_car_to_a_private_party_buyer_if_i/ here] are also helpful.  ​‑‑Lambiam 06:56, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

= May 20 =

Shopping malls opened in recent years

If you look at the categories of years shopping malls established, why are there very few malls opened and established in United States as of 2010s and 2020s, compared to Asia, where it opened in large numbers? Why is this a case? And why do malls in USA due so quickly while the other malls outside United States are much better thriving? Please use a mindset again please. 2600:387:F:4B16:0:0:0:9 (talk) 05:35, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

:What's the statistical basis for your premise? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 05:41, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

::The number of shopping malls in United States, compared to Asia. Also the malls are commonly seen opened in Asia and Europe other than United States. See it here: as of 2020s 2600:387:F:4B16:0:0:0:9 (talk) 07:35, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

:::No new malls have opened in England for at least ten years, and those we have are struggling to stay afloat. Shantavira|feed me 08:57, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

:::The categories of shopping centres/malls by year only lists shopping centres that have an article and have been categorised by year, which means the the authors of the article know the opening year and took the trouble of adding the right category. That makes the list far from complete. The shopping centre I grew up with, on the outskirts of a provincial town in Western Europe, has no article. Only if you know the biases in the list, you can use it for any statistics. PiusImpavidus (talk) 09:57, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

:::The USA pioneered shopping malls, so will have begun to approach its 'saturation level' (where enough are present and suitable sites have mostly been used) earlier than other countries. Further 'mall demand' will largely be driven only by the country's population (and prosperity) increase, but latterly this will have been countered by the steep rise in online purchases for home delivery, reducing the need for 'bricks and mortar' shopping facilities. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.170.37 (talk) 13:45, 20 May 2025 (UTC)