Wikipedia talk:WikiProject LGBTQ+ studies

[https://apnews.com/article/dei-purge-images-pentagon-diversity-women-black-8efcfaec909954f4a24bad0d49c78074 AP] reported the deletion of 26 000 pictures on different websites of US Army. With a colleague, we are categorizing those pictures here: :c:Category:Images removed from DVIDS. Pyb en résidence (talk) 22:52, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

:Thank you for taking that initiative! Is there anything other folks can do to help? I'll admit I haven't done much with Wikimedia Commons. ForsythiaJo (talk) 00:14, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

:I'm not sure how helpful it is, but I yanked the AP's dataset and compiled it into a [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vT80dJXeMTAqcs3vyjxtvHldizRXlz9GzMtQG0054Zprbg-kZJX5Ae-7lASrvPHluzuW5SMhwvPKOSi/pubhtml?gid=1262640119&single=true Google Sheet] ([https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vT80dJXeMTAqcs3vyjxtvHldizRXlz9GzMtQG0054Zprbg-kZJX5Ae-7lASrvPHluzuW5SMhwvPKOSi/pubhtml?gid=1262640119&single=true&output=csv CSV]) to make it marginally more explorable. –RoxySaunders 🏳️‍⚧️ (talk • stalk) 00:39, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

:@Pyb en résidence Perhaps you know, but U.S. Department of Defense censorship of DEI-connected material is now an article. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:41, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

File:Information.svg There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Army of Lovers#Requested move 14 March 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPath^talk 09:27, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

Attention at Gardnerian Wicca and the RfC on Open Letter would be appreciated. Nosferattus (talk) 19:28, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

:Does anybody read this page? Nosferattus (talk) 19:37, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Whether or not Tramell Tillman (star of Severance) is gay has been the subject of a slow motion edit war. Editors welcome to weigh in on the talk page. Funcrunch (talk) 22:55, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

• Lineysha Sparx
• Vivienne Pinay

---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:31, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

:The first article was kept, the second has been relisted. Feedback welcome! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 12:50, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

Collaboration welcome:

• Draft:Transgender representation in the Drag Race franchise

---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:53, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

For the interested. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:39, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

Input is invited at Draft:LGBTQ people. This is intended as a WP:BROADCONCEPT article covering the culture, rights, and history of LGBTQ people, with sections written in WP:SUMMARYSTYLE and linking to the more specific subtopics. It also links to geographically based broad-concept articles like LGBTQ people in Mexico.--Trystan (talk) 23:57, 11 April 2025 (UTC)

File:Information.svg There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Alastor (Hazbin Hotel)#Requested move 5 April 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPath^talk 10:04, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi all

Please could I have some help with an article I just published. I think its likely that the article may be vandalised and nominated for deletion etc given the political climate in the US, especially in Florida. Marcy Rheintgen was the first person to be arrested and jailed under an anti-trans law for washing her hands in a women's bathroom in the Florida State Capitol building.

Many thanks

John Cummings (talk) 16:30, 13 April 2025 (UTC)

:I think the subject is also likely to be challenged as only being notable for this single event, but the article could be moved to Arrest of Marcy Rheintgen or something like that. Funcrunch (talk) 16:42, 13 April 2025 (UTC)

File:Information.svg There is a requested move discussion at Talk:LGBTQ rights opposition#Requested move 6 April 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPath^talk 00:43, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

Hello everyone. I am hoping someone on this project might be able to help.

Talk:sj Miller, there is a thread Reinstatement of pronouns started by myself. The article explaines in the personal life section about sj Millers choice to use sj Millers name and not any pronouns. This is well referenced in the article. I think this part of the discussion is sorted now.

I'm looking for advice on how we write about people who do not use any pronouns. Writing isn't one of my strong points at the best of times. Is anyone willing to take a look at the article to see if the flow can be improved?

I wondered if there was any advice in the form of policy, essays etc about how we approach writing about agendered people. {{ping|Gaismagorm}} made what I thought was a good suggestion, {{tq|maybe it would make sense to update the rules for pronouns in articles, and get an overall consensus on how wikipedia should approach agender folks in general}}. Many thanks for any responses. Knitsey (talk) 12:48, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

:Personally...All sympathy and apologies, but I'm not going to break English over a personal preference. Be accommodating in as much as is practical, but the point at which that makes things more difficult for readers then it's counterproductive to our purpose. Something like {{tq|Miller was disowned by Miller's family}} is getting into territory where it becomes difficult to read. I'm fine with singular they, but that's widely understood by readers and speakers. GMG^talk 13:17, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

::This is why I wanted to ask for advice. Some things could be edited yo read better, but I would struggle with some of the edits such as Miller is also a cat trainer and has Miller's own cat parkour training business as it doesn't read right. I proposed, Miller is also a cat trainer and owns a catparkour training business but I am stuck with other edits, such as you mention above @GreenMeansGo. I've tried reading the article using (in my head) 'sjmiller' as a pronoun, which makes a little more sense but it isn't a suitable way to look at it as a Wikipedia article.

::Full disclosure, I have dyslexia which isn't making any of this easier for me to solve on my own. Knitsey (talk) 13:29, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

:::The problem is that something like {{tq|Miller was disowned by Miller's family}} makes your brain twitch for a second and wonder if there's two Miller's we're talking about. We would always use a pronoun if spoken aloud candidly. Have to keep in mind that we're shooting for about a college freshman level, or someone who speaks English as a second language. We don't have to be a jerk about it, but it remains that our primary purpose is to be understood. GMG^talk 21:49, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

:Just a note that I started that article and regret doing so, as it has been plagued by obvious WP:COI edits ever since. Funcrunch (talk) 13:58, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

• I agree with {{u|GreenMeansGo}} on this. We can prefer Miller's name wherever possible, but when it begins to break the rules of English grammar, we should probably rely on the singular they, as the closest we can get to respecting Miller's preferred pronouns, in order to facilitate understanding by the reader.

:I do like your proposal as outlined in the discussion, and I think we should probably strive for that route whenever possible. I'll hop into the discussion with suggestions where I could see improvements. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 14:54, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

Input is invited at here. I have added a few characters to the page, but I'm hoping to get more thoughts before adding any more to the List of animated series with LGBTQ characters: 2000–2004 page, since many of these characters, in this Class S & yuri series, are in "sisterly" relationships (i.e. soeurs) so I don't know if that would fall under a lesbian relationship or not. As such, I look forward to your comments. Historyday01 (talk) 19:04, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

There's a discussion at Talk:Hannah Clover#COIs about LGBT-related categories when it is not a WP:DEFINING attribute of the subject. I'd be surprised if similar discussions have not happened before and I'd be interested to learn about the final outcome if anyone here is aware of any. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 22:22, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

Forspoken has a RfC at Talk:Forspoken#RfC_on_Square_Enix's_comments_on_sales_in_the_article's_lead. Note: the protagonist of Forspoken is portrayed by the narrative as a gay woman[https://www.pride.com/reviews/forespoken-review#rebelltitem1] which has drawn it into the GENSEX/gamer intersection. BMWF (talk) 03:24, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

File:Information.svg There is a requested move discussion at Talk:LGBTQ#Requested move 17 April 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. LIrala (talk) 23:32, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi, I noticed asexuality has a personal essay tag in the research section while also being currently accessed as a GA. The religion section also has an unreliable source tag and reads a bit awkwardly. Is there anyone who'd be interested in working on this article to address any possible issues? I recently added a few sentences from a book I read recently but that's not the same as looking at the article as a whole. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 02:29, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

:I made a few changes to the first subsection of the research section, but honestly, skimming the rest of it, I don't see much that justifies that personal essay tag. Of course, it's entirely possible I'm missing things. I'll raise the issue on the article's talk page. MidnightAlarm (talk) 15:19, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

:Oops, didn't mean to ignore the stuff about the religion section. I'll try to tackle that later today, though if someone else wants to give it a go instead, have at it! MidnightAlarm (talk) 15:31, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

::The discrimination section could also be more fleshed out too, if you're interested in working on that. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 15:32, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

:::Noted! MidnightAlarm (talk) 17:29, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

I have a draft pending AfC review at Draft:Rick Bébout and would greatly appreciate if someone was willing to review it. (Bébout was a prominent Toronto-based gay rights and AIDS activist.) Full disclosure: it's my first draft article. MidnightAlarm (talk) 12:18, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

New stub at LGBTQ representation in country music, if any project members are interested in helping to expand. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:07, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

:Sounds like a really good article and an important one. Ethel Cain might fall into country too? There's also former bands like Lavender Country (also see [https://www.eriereader.com/article/the-reissuing-of-lavender-country-the-first-openly-gay-country-album---- here]). Anyway, just doing a quick search, some articles about LGBTQ+ country singers and allies from Wide Open Country (see [https://www.wideopencountry.com/5-gay-country-singer/ here] and [https://www.wideopencountry.com/country-stars-lgbtq-allies/ here]), and similar articles from Out Magazine (see [https://www.out.com/gay-music/gay-country-singer here]), Pride.com (see [https://www.pride.com/gay-music/pro-lgbt-country-singers here]), Queerty (see [https://www.queerty.com/queering-country-10-lgbtq-musicians-who-have-changed-the-genre-from-lavender-country-to-orville-peck-20230608/ here]), Diva (magazine) (see [https://diva-magazine.com/2024/04/08/lgbtqia-country-artists/ here]), SGN (see [https://www.sgn.org/story/319187/redirect here]) and The Boot (see [https://theboot.com/queer-country-artists/ here]) along with...

:* [https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/05/entertainment/lgbtq-country-music-orville-peck-patrick-haggerty-lavender-cec/index.html Meet the queer vanguard of country music] by CNN

:* [https://www.grammy.com/news/queer-country-artists-songs-music-lgbqtia-pride-month How Queer Country Artists Are Creating Space For Inclusive Stories In The Genre] by The Grammys

:* [https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/gay-in-country-music-pride-2023-1234733004/ Country Music Has Never Been More Gay] in Rolling Stone

:* [https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/gay-country-music-1212415/ Why Country Music Was (Finally) Ready to Come Out] in Rolling Stone

:* [https://www.advocate.com/exclusives/2022/9/28/how-be-queer-country-music-story-mya-byrne How to Be Queer in Country Music: The Story of Mya Byrne] in The Advocate (magazine)

:* [https://variety.com/2022/music/news/orville-peck-country-music-gay-lgbtq-1235283119/ Masked Singer Orville Peck on Being Openly Gay in Country Music: ‘We’ve Always Been There’] in Variety (magazine)

:* [https://www.advocate.com/arts-entertainment/music/2015/03/18/lgbt-earthquake-happening-country-music An LGBT Earthquake Is Happening in Country Music] in The Advocate (magazine)

:* [https://www.billboard.com/culture/pride/country-music-openly-embracing-lgbtq-community-pride-8461015/ A New Frontier: How Country Music Is Openly Embracing the LGBTQ Community in the Modern Age] in Billboard (magazine)

:* [https://www.advocate.com/arts-entertainment/2016/4/14/lesbian-country-singer-chely-wright-begs-genre-condemn-bigoted-laws Lesbian Country Singer Chely Wright Begs Genre to 'Condemn Bigoted Laws'] in The Advocate (magazine)

:* [https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/music-news/country-artists-lgbt-laws-labels-silent-884002/ Country Artists Condemn LGBT Laws, But Labels Remain Silent] in The Hollywood Reporter

:* [https://ew.com/music/gay-country-singer-adam-mac-cancels-show-kelsea-ballerini-maren-morris-voice-support/ Gay country star cancels show amid anti-LGBTQ protests, Kelsea Ballerini and Maren Morris voice support] in Entertainment Weekly

:* [https://www.cbsnews.com/news/country-music-response-anti-gay-lgbt-bathroom-laws/ Country music has uneven response to anti-gay laws] in CBS News

:* [https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-pop-culture/meet-four-queer-artists-helping-shake-country-music-rcna93658 Meet four queer artists helping to shake up country music] in NBC News

:* [https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Culture/lgbtq-country-singers-breaking-system-increasing-visibility-genre/story?id=111194727 LGBTQ+ country singers on 'breaking down the system,' increasing visibility in genre] in ABC News

:* [https://www.mic.com/articles/105016/2014-will-be-remembered-as-the-year-of-lgbt-rights-in-country-music 2014 Will Be Remembered as the Year of LGBT Rights in Country Music] in Mic.com

:* [https://www.advocate.com/music/dixon-dallas-gay-country-song Dixon Dallas Talks About His Viral Gay Country Song That You Have to Hear to Believe] in The Advocate (magazine)

:* [https://www.npr.org/2020/06/11/865541958/a-not-at-all-exhaustive-lgbtqia-country-playlist A Not-At-All Exhaustive LGBTQIA+ Country Playlist] by NPR News

:* [https://www.altpress.com/orville-peck-interview-country-influences/ Orville Peck proves that country and punk are more alike than you think] in Alternative Press

:* [https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/gay-country-singers-it-was-time-face-the-music-msna464206 For gay country singers, it was time to face the music] in NBC News

:* [https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/music/a35423605/tj-osborne-morgan-wallen-country-music/ T.J. Osborne Made People Proud This Week. I Worry Morgan Wallen Did, Too.] in Esquire (magazine)

:* [https://variety.com/2018/music/features/county-music-gun-control-gay-rights-1202742941/ Country Music’s New Leaders Struggle to Get on Right Side of History] in Variety (magazine)

:* [https://www.them.us/story/kacey-musgraves-queer-icon-lgbt-ally Kacey Musgraves Is A Queer Country Fan's Dream] in Them (website)

:* [https://people.com/country/kacey-musgraves-talks-country-radio-backlash-gay-positive-songs/ Kacey Musgraves on Her 'Fight' for the LGBTQ+ Community to 'Be Included' in Country Music] in People (magazine)

:* [https://popculture.com/country-music/news/kacey-musgraves-country-music-include-lgbt-fans/ Kacey Musgraves Wants Country Music to Include LGBT Fans] in Popculture.com

:* [https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20200611-the-story-of-queer-country-music-and-its-message-of-hope The story of queer country music – and its message of hope] in BBC News

:* [https://www.etonline.com/gallery/154159_country_music_lgbt_allies Country Music's LGBT Allies] in Entertainment Tonight

:* [https://www.advocate.com/arts-entertainment/music/2012/06/21/country-entertainers-who-support-lgbt-equality Country Entertainers Who Support LGBT Equality] in The Advocate (magazine)

:* [https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/29/entertainment/luke-combs-jason-aldean-country-crossroads-cec/index.html Country music is at a crossroads. Two of its most viral songs show why] in CNN

:* [https://www.tennessean.com/story/entertainment/music/cma-music-festival/2018/06/04/country-music-lgbt-cmt-cody-alan-ty-herndon-concert-love-and-acceptance-nashville/588704002/ CMT's Cody Alan: It's OK to be gay in the country music world] in The Tennessean

:* [https://illustratemagazine.com/meet-the-country-musics-lgbt-avant-garde/ Meet the country music’s LGBT avant-garde] in Illustrate Magazine

:* [https://www.mic.com/p/the-gay-songwriters-who-secretly-ruled-the-country-charts-are-ready-for-the-spotlight-82589639 The gay songwriters who secretly ruled the country charts are ready for the spotlight] in Mic.com

:* [https://www.thepinknews.com/2025/04/01/tanner-adell-comes-out-as-pansexual/ Beyoncé’s Cowboy Carter collaborator Tanner Adell comes out as pansexual] in PinkNews (possibly relevant)

:* [https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/02/06/late-country-music-singer-toby-keith-expressed-support-for-gay-marriage/ Late country music singer Toby Keith expressed support for gay marriage] in PinkNews (possibly relevant)

:* [https://go.gale.com/ps/i.do?id=GALE%7CA742388129&sid=googleScholar&v=2.1&it=r&linkaccess=abs&issn=01908286&p=AONE&sw=w&userGroupName=anon%7E426be226&aty=open-web-entry Nashville singers band together in support of LGBTQ rights.] in Washington Post

:* A [https://www.out.com/gay-country-singer whole section] of Out Magazine on "gay country singer[s]" (there may be some good articles there)

:* a site called "Country Queer" which [https://countryqueer.com/?s=%22country%22 has many articles] about queerness in country music

:There's also academic articles too...

:* [https://www.gayoleopry.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/jpms_32_2_011_Pittelman.pdf You’re My Country Music] in Journal of Popular Music Studies

:* [https://egrove.olemiss.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1873&context=etd Object Of Your Rejection: The Symbolic Annihilation And Recuperation Of Queer Identities In Country Music] an entire [https://egrove.olemiss.edu/etd/874/ thesis]!

:* [https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/yearbook-for-traditional-music/article/abs/politely-different-queer-presence-in-country-dancing-and-music/D6C870FE607027FD3EF85616FBFCBEBB Politely Different: Queer Presence in Country Dancing and Music] within a book by Cambridge University Press

:* [https://online.ucpress.edu/jpms/article/36/3/135/203261 Review: Queer Country, by Shana Goldin-Perschbacher] in Journal of Popular Music Studies

:* [https://online.ucpress.edu/jpms/article/32/2/1/110764/IntroductionUncharted-Country-New-Voices-and Introduction: Uncharted Country: New Voices and Perspectives in Country Music Studies] (small mention) in Journal of Popular Music Studies

:* [https://search.informit.org/doi/pdf/10.3316/informit.641657963654951 Dolly Parton's Mythologised Persona, Collective Life Writing, and Building a Home for LGBTQ+ Listeners in Country Music] in Persona

:* [https://www.jstor.org/stable/43940358 Queering Country Music Autobiography: Chely Wright's "Like Me" and the Performance of Authenticity] in Studies in Popular Culture

:* [https://muse.jhu.edu/article/592118/pdf?casa_token=wozDlclirZ8AAAAA:Gclp0oexY5zd7xnSLSTxDNF1TsLwjCMy41F08OM9_VLmtnvEx9hMpG4IpvdPDlK67ACymeP8Rg “Jolene,” Genre, and the Everyday Homoerotics of Country Music: Dolly Parton’s Loving Address of the Other Woman] in Women & Music Volume 19

:And books entitled

:* "[https://www.ucpress.edu/books/rednecks-queers-and-country-music/paper Rednecks, Queers, and Country Music]", some of which can be read [https://books.google.com/books?id=cTglDQAAQBAJ&dq=country+music+lgbt&lr=&source=gbs_navlinks_s on Google Books] [this book is also partially analyzed in [https://libres.uncg.edu/ir/asu/f/Alexander_Jade_May%202021_Thesis.pdf this thesis] ]

:* "[https://www.press.uillinois.edu/books/?id=56gqd2yk9780252044267 Queer Country]", which can be [https://books.google.com/books?id=Z6VjEAAAQBAJ&dq=country+music+lgbt&lr=&source=gbs_navlinks_s partially read] on Google Books

:I hope this all helps! Historyday01 (talk) 21:39, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

:: Thank you! I will copy this over to the talk page. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:49, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

:::Related: Reba McEntire as a gay icon ---Another Believer _(Talk) 12:31, 22 April 2025 (UTC)