Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Sources#The Next Level old archived website

Find video game sources: [https://www.google.com/search?as_eq=wikipedia&q=%22Tech4Gamers%22 "Tech4Gamers"] – [https://www.google.com/search?tbm=nws&q=%22Tech4Gamers%22+-wikipedia&tbs=ar:1 news] · [https://www.google.com/search?&q=%22Tech4Gamers%22&tbs=bkt:s&tbm=bks newspapers] · [https://www.google.com/search?tbs=bks:1&q=%22Tech4Gamers%22+-wikipedia books] · [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22Tech4Gamers%22 scholar] · [https://www.jstor.org/action/doBasicSearch?Query=%22Tech4Gamers%22&acc=on&wc=on JSTOR] · [https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&tbs=sur:fmc&tbm=isch&q=%22Tech4Gamers%22+-site:wikipedia.org+-site:wikimedia.org free images] · [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Free_English_newspaper_sources free news sources] · [https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/search/?q=%22Tech4Gamers%22 TWL] · [https://www.nytimes.com/search/%22Tech4Gamers%22 NYT] · [https://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&cx=007734830908295939403%3Agalkqgoksq0&cof=FORID%3A13%3BAH%3Aleft%3BCX%3AWikipedia%2520Reference%2520Search&q=%22Tech4Gamers%22 WP reference] · [https://www.google.com/cse?cx=009782238053898643791%3A8naerdbd-oy&q=%22Tech4Gamers%22 VG/RS] · [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=%22Tech4Gamers%22&prefix=Wikipedia%3AWikiProject+Video+games%2FReference+library&fulltext=Search+reference+library&fulltext=Search VG/RL] · [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22Tech4Gamers%22+prefix%3AWikipedia+talk%3AWikiProject+Video+games&title=Special:Search&profile=default&fulltext=1 WPVG/Talk]{{int:dot-separator}}LinkSearch{{int:dot-separator}}[https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Atech4gamers.com LinkTo]

Tech4Gamers is a publication dedicated to gaming and PC hardware, backed by a team of professionals with years of experience in the field. [https://muckrack.com/media-outlet/tech4gamers] Details about their staff members: [https://tech4gamers.com/tech4gamers-staff/] and editorial policy: [https://tech4gamers.com/editorial-guidelines/] Kazama16 (talk) 07:43, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

: I'm inclinded to believe this to be a reliable source. They appear to have a qualified team and are open and clear with their editorial policies. Additionally, they are supported by WP:USEBYOTHERS as they have been used by websites such as IGN as seen [https://www.ign.com/articles/sony-just-patented-a-playstation-controller-with-a-dedicated-rewind-button here]. Looking through the articles on their main page, the quality of the articles appear relatively on-par with other sources we deem reliable here. CaptainGalaxy 03:08, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

: I would also consider them reliable per Galaxy's comment. I'm also satisfied by their staff team, about page, and editorial guidelines. I don't see how they don't meet the standards. λ NegativeMP1 20:19, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

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Although now defunct this source has been used many times throughout the years (I'm using it myself) so I'm surpised it hasn't been discussed here. I think it should be added reliable defunct sites. IGN [https://www.ign.com/articles/2001/03/01/pc-data-top-selling-console-games-021101-021701], Computer Games Magazine [https://web.archive.org/web/20021215101918/http://www.cdmag.com/az-pages/archive-16.html#P], etc have used this site before. Timur9008 (talk) 09:25, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Find video game sources: [https://www.google.com/search?as_eq=wikipedia&q=%22The+Next+Level%22 "The Next Level"] – [https://www.google.com/search?tbm=nws&q=%22The+Next+Level%22+-wikipedia&tbs=ar:1 news] · [https://www.google.com/search?&q=%22The+Next+Level%22&tbs=bkt:s&tbm=bks newspapers] · [https://www.google.com/search?tbs=bks:1&q=%22The+Next+Level%22+-wikipedia books] · [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22The+Next+Level%22 scholar] · [https://www.jstor.org/action/doBasicSearch?Query=%22The+Next+Level%22&acc=on&wc=on JSTOR] · [https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&tbs=sur:fmc&tbm=isch&q=%22The+Next+Level%22+-site:wikipedia.org+-site:wikimedia.org free images] · [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Free_English_newspaper_sources free news sources] · [https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/search/?q=%22The+Next+Level%22 TWL] · [https://www.nytimes.com/search/%22The+Next+Level%22 NYT] · [https://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&cx=007734830908295939403%3Agalkqgoksq0&cof=FORID%3A13%3BAH%3Aleft%3BCX%3AWikipedia%2520Reference%2520Search&q=%22The+Next+Level%22 WP reference] · [https://www.google.com/cse?cx=009782238053898643791%3A8naerdbd-oy&q=%22The+Next+Level%22 VG/RS] · [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=%22The+Next+Level%22&prefix=Wikipedia%3AWikiProject+Video+games%2FReference+library&fulltext=Search+reference+library&fulltext=Search VG/RL] · [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22The+Next+Level%22+prefix%3AWikipedia+talk%3AWikiProject+Video+games&title=Special:Search&profile=default&fulltext=1 WPVG/Talk]{{int:dot-separator}}LinkSearch{{int:dot-separator}}[https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Athe-nextlevel.com LinkTo]

While researching for the Williams Arcade's Greatest Hits, I stumbled across an [https://web.archive.org/web/20170719025002/http://www.the-nextlevel.com:80/feature/interview-jeff-vavasour interview that Ken Horowitz conducted with the compilation's lead programmer] on the Internet Archive. I also saw that Horowitz's work on Sega-16 is listed as reliable given his credentials. Would that apply to his interviews on The Next Level website as well? He has several more on [https://web.archive.org/web/20170722115816/http://www.the-nextlevel.com/feature/ interviews preserved on the Internet Archive] that might be useful to others if yes.

Also, in case it helps, several others from the [https://web.archive.org/web/20170703094302/http://www.the-nextlevel.com/blog/tnl-team/ website's staff] have written for other reliable gaming sites. Although, it appears they started here.

• Chris Scantleberry - [https://www.ign.com/person/bahnSRK IGN] and [https://otakuusamagazine.com/author/chrisscantleberry/ Otaku USA]
• James Cunningham - [https://muckrack.com/james-cunningham-1/articles Hardcore Gamer as well as newspaper and news outlets]
• Travis Fahs - [https://www.ign.com/person/Frogacuda IGN] and [https://www.gamedeveloper.com/author/travis-fahs Game Developer]

At the very least, I'm curious whether the interview with Vavasour is reliable. If the rest (or parts) of the archived site is useful for others, then great. Appreciate any and all input. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 03:11, 25 May 2025 (UTC))

:No opinion on the site in general, but note that interviews are typically permissible sources for statements from the interviewed party as a self-published source under the conditions of WP:ABOUTSELF, even if the source may not otherwise be authoritative, so long as there is no reason to doubt the interview's authenticity. ~ A412 ^talk! 08:32, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

::Thanks for the response. I added the content from the interview to the article. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 03:31, 31 May 2025 (UTC))

Tom Chick's website. Bruce Geryk (GameSpot, 1UP, CGW, Escapist) also occasionally [https://www.quartertothree.com/fp/author/bruce-geryk/ writes there], expert in wargaming. Cited by some reliable sources: [https://www.gamesindustry.biz/critical-consensus-diablo-iii], [https://www.ign.com/articles/2013/04/12/30-days-after-starcraft-ii-heart-of-the-swarm], [https://www.eurogamer.net/article-30386], [https://www.eurogamer.net/eagle-eyed-steam-users-rewarded-for-reading-small-print], [https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/todd-hollenshead-pc-makers-like-piracy-secretly]. Mika1h (talk) 19:15, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Find video game sources: [https://www.google.com/search?as_eq=wikipedia&q=%22Sources%22 "Sources"] – [https://www.google.com/search?tbm=nws&q=%22Sources%22+-wikipedia&tbs=ar:1 news] · [https://www.google.com/search?&q=%22Sources%22&tbs=bkt:s&tbm=bks newspapers] · [https://www.google.com/search?tbs=bks:1&q=%22Sources%22+-wikipedia books] · [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22Sources%22 scholar] · [https://www.jstor.org/action/doBasicSearch?Query=%22Sources%22&acc=on&wc=on JSTOR] · [https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&tbs=sur:fmc&tbm=isch&q=%22Sources%22+-site:wikipedia.org+-site:wikimedia.org free images] · [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Free_English_newspaper_sources free news sources] · [https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/search/?q=%22Sources%22 TWL] · [https://www.nytimes.com/search/%22Sources%22 NYT] · [https://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&cx=007734830908295939403%3Agalkqgoksq0&cof=FORID%3A13%3BAH%3Aleft%3BCX%3AWikipedia%2520Reference%2520Search&q=%22Sources%22 WP reference] · [https://www.google.com/cse?cx=009782238053898643791%3A8naerdbd-oy&q=%22Sources%22 VG/RS] · [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=%22Sources%22&prefix=Wikipedia%3AWikiProject+Video+games%2FReference+library&fulltext=Search+reference+library&fulltext=Search VG/RL] · [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22Sources%22+prefix%3AWikipedia+talk%3AWikiProject+Video+games&title=Special:Search&profile=default&fulltext=1 WPVG/Talk]{{int:dot-separator}}LinkSearch{{int:dot-separator}}[https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3souxdZjAE LinkTo]

i am desperately trying to understand why kotaku is a reliable source... when sophia narwitz is not? with her long and large body of work it seems that the dismissal of her is ideologically biased. i've had SUCH A TIME trying to try and give a contrary opinion and the context and dispel other misinformation and provide important context on how Carolyn Petit acted in bad faith and is little different than jack Thompson.

and how the censorship arguably hurts lgbt people like myself.

so i've compiled an internet archive repository of some relevant videos at least as much as it would allow.

i hope it is enough. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MisteOsoTruth (talk • contribs) 21:08, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:In general, individuals (by which I mean influencers, bloggers, social media users and the like, who aren't acting in a professional capacity or beholden to an editor) aren't considered reliable sources. There are exceptions, but a compelling case that they're a subject-matter expert must be made for consensus to be likely to swing in their favor.

:As such, we don't usually consider YouTubers as reliable sources. It doesn't have anything to do with censorship of LGBT content- Wikipedia has quite a lot of LGBT content. From what I can tell, Sophia Narwitz is a YouTuber, and a [https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/c11jia/im_sophia_narwitz_senior_writer_for_nichegamer/ "senior writer"] for Niche Gamer, which we do not consider to be a reliable source of information. (Latest discussion about that was here.)

:I wouldn't consider Jack Thompson a reliable source either. I don't know about Carolyn Petit, but she's apparently cited in some articles through her work on GameSpot. Post-2023 content from WP:KOTAKU is generally considered unreliable due to their editorial standards declining, though exceptions have been made on a case-by-case basis. silviaASH (inquire within) 22:51, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

::As a point about Jack Thompson, we don't cite him directly, but instead use reliable sources that discuss Thompson's issues with GTA, which further were sufficiently widespread to make them WP:DUE for inclusion. The only thing I see even close to reliable cover of Narwitz is run-ins with the "anti-woke" crowd, but that doesn't speak to any of her opinions on GTA V. Masem (t) 00:36, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

::I don't know who Sophie Narwitz is, but being Niche Gamer staff automatically makes me wary. To make sure it's clear for those who've not looked, they're not just not considered a reliable source of information, but explicitly considered unreliable repeatedly whenever raised due to 1, 2, 3, 4.

::I don't get the best impression looking through her Twitter either. Seems to spend more time attacking others than anything. DarkeruTomoe (talk) 18:03, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Agreed. The topic starter really hasn't advanced any sort of argument in favor of reliability anyways. This just feels like another "Why isn't my favorite Youtuber usable on Wikipedia" argument. It has nothing to do with social or political ideologies, its has to do with WP:RSPYOUTUBE. Sergecross73 msg me 18:47, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

:Errr have you seen our current stance on Kotaku? It's not even considered wholesale reliable... Sergecross73 msg me 00:27, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

A discussion about VentureBeat's reliability is taking place at WP:RS/N. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 18:50, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

:As an extension of the discussion, a reminder that [https://variety.com/2025/gaming/news/gamesbeat-spins-off-from-venturebeat-gina-joseph-dean-takahashi-1236373682/ GamesBeat is now independent from VentureBeat], which means we'll need to re-evaluate the two sites separately -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 19:28, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

::I'm shocked by how much crypto/blockchain coverage Gamesbeat is still putting out in 2025. Not a good look. Axem Titanium (talk) 07:02, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

There is a discussion on the reliability of CBR.com on RSN. It's listed as 'situational' per WP:VALNET, so subject knowledge of if it's reliable in this particular situation would be helpful. Anyone interested can find it here WP:RSN#CBR and Resident Evil mainline series. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 21:07, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

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Any opinions if this should be classified as reliable or unreliable? 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 18:39, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:There doesn't seem to be a special page for their staff nor editorial guidelines. Looking through their articles, I was able to find the authors but they do not seem to have any past experience in journalism. I see that, however, they have been mentioned in [https://www.ign.com/articles/gayming-awards-2021-all-the-winners IGN], [https://venturebeat.com/games/gayming-awards-2025-to-air-on-wow-presents-in-fifth-year/ VentureBeat], [https://www.pocketgamer.biz/gayming-magazine-founder-robin-gray-on-the-gayming-awards-and-lgbtq-representation-in-games/ PocketGamer], and [https://www.gamesindustry.biz/gayming-magazine-to-host-week-long-live-event GamesIndustry.biz], but all of these mentions seem to be related to the Gayming Awards, not their articles, so I'm unsure if WP:USEBYOTHERS would apply here (most likely not). Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 19:28, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

::I think there may be a USEBYOTHERS case here, though for scholarly citations that I can see more than the ones listed. I think it would be safe to say they should be usable for topics to do with LGBT topics in media. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 19:43, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:::That sounds good to me. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 19:45, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

::::Also, I just verified that at least one writer worked on Eurogamer: [https://muckrack.com/ed-nightingale] - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 19:48, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::Okay, that's great. I wish that they had a page for editorial guidelines, but from what we've gathered and from articles that I've taken a look at, I'd say that they could be considered reliable for LGBTQ+ topics in the gaming space. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 19:50, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:While I also cannot find any editorial policy indicated either directly on their website nor on that of their parent, [https://grayjonesmedia.com/ Gray Jones Media], I can't see any issues with the quality of their content. One of their writers, [https://gaymingmag.com/author/aimeehart/ Aimee Hart], states in their bio that they have written for The Verge and Polygon, so that's something. I'd say situationally usable unless any major disqualifying issues are found. silviaASH (inquire within) 19:49, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::: Find this one to be reliable as per above comments. Having a source that specifically focuses on LGBTQ+ content is very useful, particularly and obviously to related articles. Soulbust (talk) 04:10, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

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Anyone have any thoughts on if this is a reliable source? I've come across it in searches a few times but usually ignored it as it looked like a fairly mid-quality blog, but someone added it to the article on The Coffin of Andy and Leyley and that prompted me to investigate it a little more. The bylines of the writers don't indicate any meaningful credentials, but the site does indicate reasonable policies for [https://8bitdigi.com/ethics-and-correction-policy/ editorial standards] and [https://8bitdigi.com/about/ sponsored content] (at least in theory; I haven't closely scrutinized their output to see how well they follow it), so it's at least not got nothing. I guess if I had to say I'd classify it as situational, but I'm not sure. Would like to hear other opinions in any case. silviaASH (inquire within) 18:57, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:The founder and also the majority writer of the website is a former [https://venturebeat.com/author/soheilr/ GamesBeat writer] (VentureBeat is listed as a reliable source) and [https://www.gameskinny.com/author/stan-rezaee/ GameSkinny author] (listed as an unreliable source). Others include: Stephen Wilds ([https://x.com/stephenwilds a writer for Polyon and PC Gamer]), Andrew McMahon ([https://opencritic.com/critic/5488/andrew-mcmahon IGN, PCGamesN, GameSpot]), Abigail Shannon ([https://www.gamesradar.com/author/abigail-shannon/ GamesRadar+]), and James Bentley ([https://www.pcgamer.com/author/james-bentley/ PCGamer] and [https://www.gamesradar.com/author/james-bentley/ GamesRadar+]) - all of whom seem to be freelance writers. Considering that the site also has an editorial standars page, I'll lean reliable. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 13:18, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

Find video game sources: [https://www.google.com/search?as_eq=wikipedia&q=%22The+Nerd+Stash%22 "The Nerd Stash"] – [https://www.google.com/search?tbm=nws&q=%22The+Nerd+Stash%22+-wikipedia&tbs=ar:1 news] · [https://www.google.com/search?&q=%22The+Nerd+Stash%22&tbs=bkt:s&tbm=bks newspapers] · [https://www.google.com/search?tbs=bks:1&q=%22The+Nerd+Stash%22+-wikipedia books] · [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22The+Nerd+Stash%22 scholar] · [https://www.jstor.org/action/doBasicSearch?Query=%22The+Nerd+Stash%22&acc=on&wc=on JSTOR] · [https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&tbs=sur:fmc&tbm=isch&q=%22The+Nerd+Stash%22+-site:wikipedia.org+-site:wikimedia.org free images] · [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Free_English_newspaper_sources free news sources] · [https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/search/?q=%22The+Nerd+Stash%22 TWL] · [https://www.nytimes.com/search/%22The+Nerd+Stash%22 NYT] · [https://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&cx=007734830908295939403%3Agalkqgoksq0&cof=FORID%3A13%3BAH%3Aleft%3BCX%3AWikipedia%2520Reference%2520Search&q=%22The+Nerd+Stash%22 WP reference] · [https://www.google.com/cse?cx=009782238053898643791%3A8naerdbd-oy&q=%22The+Nerd+Stash%22 VG/RS] · [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=%22The+Nerd+Stash%22&prefix=Wikipedia%3AWikiProject+Video+games%2FReference+library&fulltext=Search+reference+library&fulltext=Search VG/RL] · [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22The+Nerd+Stash%22+prefix%3AWikipedia+talk%3AWikiProject+Video+games&title=Special:Search&profile=default&fulltext=1 WPVG/Talk]{{int:dot-separator}}LinkSearch{{int:dot-separator}}[https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Athenerdstash.com LinkTo]

I wrote :zh:瑪薇卡 (Mavuika in Genshin Impact) several days ago. During the source hunt, I found two articles written by Gabriela Jessica in this website: [https://thenerdstash.com/after-a-great-start-genshin-impacts-natlan-archon-quests-ends-up-being-underwhelming/] and [https://thenerdstash.com/why-mavuika-might-be-the-worst-archon-in-genshin-impact/], both are good critics. Looking at their website, they have [https://thenerdstash.com/about-us/ public profiles of their team], and a lengthy [https://thenerdstash.com/editorial-guidelines/ editorial policy]. Looks pretty reliable to me. SuperGrey (talk) 01:36, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

Find video game sources: [https://www.google.com/search?as_eq=wikipedia&q=%22Adventure+Gamers%22 "Adventure Gamers"] – [https://www.google.com/search?tbm=nws&q=%22Adventure+Gamers%22+-wikipedia&tbs=ar:1 news] · [https://www.google.com/search?&q=%22Adventure+Gamers%22&tbs=bkt:s&tbm=bks newspapers] · [https://www.google.com/search?tbs=bks:1&q=%22Adventure+Gamers%22+-wikipedia books] · [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22Adventure+Gamers%22 scholar] · [https://www.jstor.org/action/doBasicSearch?Query=%22Adventure+Gamers%22&acc=on&wc=on JSTOR] · [https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&tbs=sur:fmc&tbm=isch&q=%22Adventure+Gamers%22+-site:wikipedia.org+-site:wikimedia.org free images] · [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Free_English_newspaper_sources free news sources] · [https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/search/?q=%22Adventure+Gamers%22 TWL] · [https://www.nytimes.com/search/%22Adventure+Gamers%22 NYT] · [https://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&cx=007734830908295939403%3Agalkqgoksq0&cof=FORID%3A13%3BAH%3Aleft%3BCX%3AWikipedia%2520Reference%2520Search&q=%22Adventure+Gamers%22 WP reference] · [https://www.google.com/cse?cx=009782238053898643791%3A8naerdbd-oy&q=%22Adventure+Gamers%22 VG/RS] · [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=%22Adventure+Gamers%22&prefix=Wikipedia%3AWikiProject+Video+games%2FReference+library&fulltext=Search+reference+library&fulltext=Search VG/RL] · [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22Adventure+Gamers%22+prefix%3AWikipedia+talk%3AWikiProject+Video+games&title=Special:Search&profile=default&fulltext=1 WPVG/Talk]{{int:dot-separator}}LinkSearch{{int:dot-separator}}[https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aadventuregamers.com LinkTo]

Their About page changed recently ([http://web.archive.org/web/20250609141114/https://adventuregamers.com/about before] and [http://web.archive.org/web/20250613164833/https://adventuregamers.com/about after]). [https://old.reddit.com/r/adventuregames/comments/1lat2la/adventure_gamers_is_a_gambling_site_now/ Here's] a Reddit thread about it – apparently "Finixio/Clickout Media", a notorious SEO affiliate, is to blame. On the bright side, the old AG staff had already established [https://adventuregamehotspot.com Adventure Game Hotspot].--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 05:58, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

:"Expanding Into the Gambling Industry" 🤮 Well, unreliable as of the change. Home page is already filled with ads disguised as articles. Probably need to swap all current links with archived versions before all pages inevitably have gambling ads. —  HELLKNOWZ ∣ TALK 10:12, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

::Time to make a request at WP:URLREQ?--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 11:34, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Added a linkrot request for this website. Fortunately the Wiki impact seems small with only [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=50&offset=0&ns0=1&search=insource%3Aadventuregamer.com 33 pages using it as a source]. Sariel Xilo (talk) 15:21, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

::::The wrong URL was reported, the real one is used in 800+ articles.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 15:54, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::I [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ALink_rot%2FURL_change_requests&diff=1295741307&oldid=1295740641 updated the request] right after you flagged the issue. Sariel Xilo (talk) 15:58, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

:Support moving it to unreliable. I don't think it even had the strongest argument for reliability before all this happened. Sergecross73 msg me 13:54, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

::Seconded. I think we would benefit from revisiting some sources that haven't been discussed in a long time or had improper discussions that considered them "reliable" (e.g. 2 participants in 2006) - just to do a quick wellness check. I might make a list of sources which fall under that soon. λ NegativeMP1 14:45, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

::My impression is that (outside Wikipedia) it'd always been widely regarded as reputable and the go-to source on adventure games, with decades' worth of interviews with industry insiders, news, features and reviews.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 15:41, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

:Adventure Game Hotspot really should be considered to take Adventure Gamers spot on the reliable sources list. Founded by former editor-in-chief, many former writers from AG. Tons of interviews from adventure game developers. Solid [https://adventuregamehotspot.com/about about] & [https://adventuregamehotspot.com/policies policies] pages. --Mika1h (talk) 12:19, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

:I also support moving them to unreliable due to this recent change. As Mika1h said, maybe we should consider AGH to take over their spot? Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 12:57, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

:Their older material could be considered still valid, right? Apparently Jack Allin, the former editor-in-chief, was fired in 2022 which I hear led to a mass staff exodus and a rapid decline, and that date can serve as a cutoff point for reliability. That or when the current owners bought it, there [http://web.archive.org/web/20250609181233/adventuregamers.com/latest-news has been casino spam for a while already] before the explicit change in the About page.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 13:30, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

::It seems to have happened sometime after May 22, no spam before that date: [https://web.archive.org/web/20250601015752/https://adventuregamers.com/news/index]. --Mika1h (talk) 15:19, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

:This one hits hard. To focus on the constructive part, we can make it as unreliable, and preserve the content from before a certain date. With any luck, the writers at that site will be successful in future ventures. Shooterwalker (talk) 02:58, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

::I think the writers moved onto Adventure Game Hotspot Cukie Gherkin (talk) 07:02, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

:It goes farther back than I realized, found this article from December 2024: [https://adventuregamers.com/news/adventure-gaming-and-sports-betting-are-more-similar-than-you-think]. --Mika1h (talk) 15:28, 20 June 2025 (UTC)