User talk:Bbb23/Archive 61#Re: Block
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Sock Puppet Concerns
If I have concerns that some editors are sock puppets, whats the best way to proceed if my evidence is only circumstantial?? MaskedSinger (talk) 11:28, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
:Most evidence of socking is "circumstantial", i.e., behavioral. If you have sufficient evidence to warrant an investigation, you should file a report at WP:SPI. For a better understanding of what you need before filing and how the process works, read the top of the SPI page beginning with "Before opening an investigation, you need good reason to suspect sockpuppetry."--Bbb23 (talk) 13:51, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
::Thanks for getting back to me. Is it possible for me to DM you my concerns and you determine if it's worth filing a report? In which case, I will so. I don't want to make trouble if I'm chasing shadows. MaskedSinger (talk) 13:55, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
:::I'd rather not handle things by e-mail (if that's what you mean by DM). How many registered users are involved? Are there also IPs that you suspect?--Bbb23 (talk) 14:00, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
::::That is indeed what I meant. 4 users. Countless IPs. I'll just write about it here. Nick McKenzie was being vandalised in connection with Peter Schiff. McKenzie did a story on Schiff, Schiff sued and the case was just settled. This saw a rash of vandalism to McKenzie's page all in a rush to defend Schiff and pile shame on McKenzie. I requested edit protection for McKenzie's page yesterday and suddenly, dormant editors who hadn't edited in a while (in one case 5 years) edited his page, his talk page and my talk page. There was no protection on Schiff's page but there's the same issue there. To me, it seems strange that editors who could have edited the page before the protection was in place, suddenly did so when it was there. I wouldn't bet my house on sock puppetry, but I'd pretty certain of at least meat puppetry. MaskedSinger (talk) 14:08, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
:::::Who are the four users?--Bbb23 (talk) 14:13, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
::::::Kgelner edited McKenzie's page after a 5 year break
::::::JDWalston edited McKenzie's talk page after only making ever one previous edit
::::::JimH44 dormant since January 2019, but now made 3 Schiff related edits, two of which were today
::::::Akyrimos is different from the other 3. I was just looking at editors of Schiff's page who were dormant until Schiff caused them to become active again. MaskedSinger (talk) 14:20, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
:::::::Sorry, but it's too difficult for me to analyze, partly because there are so few edits. My instinct is that editors are coming out of the woodwork because of the recent news, not because they are related accounts, but that's just a gut reaction.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:52, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
::::::::Ok cool. For me, it seems a tad coincidental but I'm keeping my eye on it. MaskedSinger (talk) 16:11, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
User talk:Ponyo
Clam down, this particular instance is not a felony :P - FlightTime (open channel) 14:32, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
:In Canada it might be. Actually, the comment should be moved to the bottom of {{U|Ponyo}}'s Talk page, but I'll let her sort it out now that you've tried to "fix" it and I've unfixed it.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:36, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
::...and Ponyo has now sorted it. It is indeed a felony in Canada to mess with someone's talk page. You are sentenced to life without parole, which is immediately commuted with a million "sorry, eh"'s and then I go to your place and cook you dinner.-- Ponyobons mots 17:22, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
:::As long as what you cook meets my specifications AND you cook enough for the other members of my household AND all of us like the food AND the meal has multiple courses, including dessert AND all of it is homemade AND you clean up afterward. I'll have my lawyer send your lawyer a contract for you to sign. American law governs. The instructions you left for the user are pretty damned good. I doubt the user will appreciate them, but I'm impressed.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:31, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
::::You found my weakness: make a bunch of unreasonable demands but leave off with a compliment. Sigh; I'm off to source some lemongrass and lime leaves for dinner, I guess.-- Ponyobons mots 17:55, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
:::::My experience is that most demands are inherently unreasonable; else, one wouldn't have to make them, or one could call them "requests" instead. Lemongrass and lime leaves sound good to me. If those are some of the ingredients you're going to use for our dinner, perhaps I could trim/tone down some of my demands. I'll speak to my lawyer and get back to you on it. I have one of the three lawyers in the US who is competent AND (you must be getting sick of these "AND"s) charges nothing for legal advice. I think you know him.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:26, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
CSD G11
Dear User:Bbb23,
I hope this message finds you well. I am reaching out to request a reconsideration of the draft article -> [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Julius_Cleyn]] which is about "Julius Cleyn" for speedy deletion under Criteria for Speedy Deletion (CSD) G11. This criterion pertains to articles primarily serving promotional purposes without encyclopedic value.
Upon a thorough examination, the draft raises significant concerns. Firstly, it appears to be a case of self-promotion, despite its seemingly non-promotional tone. This is partly indicated by the author's username, JCleyn, mirroring the subject's name, which points towards a possible conflict of interest as outlined in WP:COI.
The draft's content is unsupported by reliable, independent sources. The only related findings were a YouTube channel with limited activity and a LinkedIn profile with minimal content. Neither platform is deemed a reliable source for Wikipedia's purposes (but that's the only thing I could find about the subject). This scarcity of independent coverage strongly suggests that the article's creation might not be from a neutral third party, further questioning its purpose and neutrality.
Considering these factors, the draft appears to predominantly serve promotional aims and falls short of meeting Wikipedia's standards for neutral, verifiable content. Therefore, I respectfully suggest that CSD G11 may indeed be applicable in this instance. Your consideration and review of this matter would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for your dedication to maintaining the integrity of Wikipedia.
QuantumRealm (meow • pawtrack) 21:11, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
:The draft is an obvious autobiography, but autobiographies are not automatically deletable per WP:G11. In this instance, the language of the draft is not a bit promotional. It just says Cleyn is a rapper and a songwriter, nothing more. Your interpretation of G11 is not quite right. The key part of G11 says "This applies to pages that are exclusively promotional and would need to be fundamentally rewritten to serve as encyclopedia articles, rather than advertisements."--Bbb23 (talk) 22:49, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
::Appreciate your response dear User:Bbb23 I'll keep that in mind. Have an amazing weekend ahead! <3 QuantumRealm (meow • pawtrack) 06:21, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
ANI thread that may be of interest
Just letting you know about this thread Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Thailand’s Universal Health Care since the block the OP seems to be referring to, or at least the only one I found and linked to, was yours. Nil Einne (talk) 09:56, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
Well now
I'm glad you're at work, even though you're probably still shaking with excitement after Alabama's SEC victory and its selection for the play-offs. So, User talk:ZahraHeidari2 is confirmed with AliLotfian3, of course, and they are also, as far as I can tell from the technical data, identical with User:JacksonPB5 (and I blocked them and two socks). Whether they are all five instances of the same spammer can, I suppose, be decided on their grammar and style. Have a great day, Drmies (talk) 17:30, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
:I'm having trouble "working" from the shaking/quivering. Only two of the three accounts made any substantive edits, but everyone is advertising university profs (and we all know what university profs are like, don't we?). Your little farm is advertising an Iranian prof, whereas "mine" is advertising a Pakistani prof at a Maryland university. One of "your" accounts, though, edited another article related to the same Iranian, but it was an article about an American heart surgeon/professor (terrible article) who was apparently involved with a Maryland medical school. I'd be inclined to combine them as one farm. Is that okay with you? If so, can I tag them all as confirmed to each other? Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:36, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
::Go for it, Bbb. And I'll tell you, I have seen cross-cultural and cross-cultural overlap I wouldn't have believed a few years ago: Nigeria and Pakistan are working together, for example. Drmies (talk) 02:26, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
:::{{U|Drmies}}, I don't know if you noticed, but yesterday I blocked another account, {{noping|Samawatt}}. Can you confirm that one as well? Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:33, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
::::I cannot confirm that, no. Brand new IP and very different location--there's no other socks there either. Drmies (talk) 16:00, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
:::::Ah. I've retagged the others as confirmed and removed the suspected tag from Samawatt's userpage. Sam's reaction to my block, though, is mildly interesting. First, they bitched, and a minute later they removed their bitch and my block notice. They did not request an unblock. Thanks for your help.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:10, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
::::::Well, we might have another connection across the seas and the continents there. In one case I strongly suspect that accounts were made in one country that were then sent off to another country, another user, in order to make edits. An expert of sorts starting an article and then passing on the information and the account(s) to an end user, a much less experienced one. I can't tell if that is the case here--the case I remember was with prolific socking and an abundance of edits. Compared to that, this is amateurish. Drmies (talk) 16:14, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
:::::::The only thing worse than sly socks is clever sly socks.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:16, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
Self-admitted sock?
Hi Bbb23. User:KTerPalmers recently posted [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&diff=prev&oldid=1187409996 this nomination] at ITN, putting "User:BSrap" in the nominator field. Is this not them basically admitting they are BSrap? I can't think of a good faith explanation. Pawnkingthree (talk) 00:32, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
:Whoa, that's a sockmaster from the past. Behaviorally obvious, now blocked and tagged. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:49, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
U sure about which account is older?
:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Abayan leo I may be barking, of course! 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 15:49, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
:Not that it matters in the great scheme of socks 👍 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 15:50, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
:Yes, account creation date rules, not first-edit date.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:57, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
::Ah! Thank you. Guess who got it wrong! 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 16:54, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
Undeletion
Regarding undeletion of Egor Burkin, I don't exactly know how the undeletion process works. Maybe you can undelete it to User:Thinker78/Undeletion/Egor Burkin. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 17:02, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
:See User:Thinker78/Egor Burkin.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:02, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
::Thank you. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 19:36, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
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2023-2024 Perth Scorchers Season page
Hey I realised you deleted this page and I would like to ask permission to be able to recreate the page if possible.
There is already a link on another page to it and I feel the page is necessary to have because as of day the Perth Scorchers Season actually started.
Flipstatic Energy (talk) 13:47, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
Number of reverts on [[Kochari]]
Hi Bbb23,
Here, you have mentioned that there were three reverts. One of the edits listed by ArmenianSniper is literally me [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kochari&diff=prev&oldid=1189337222 adding a page needed tag]. All three of my edits listed there (discounting the one from August) were right after each other. So, I don't get how I have made three reverts. The same can be said for ArmenianSniper, I think, if we take each consecutive edit as one, they have reverted for two times at most but accused me of edit-warring after their first edit following mine (or my first revert). Aintabli (talk) 14:42, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
:Putting aside the fact that the reverts were not listed correctly, I see 3 reverts by you:
:*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kochari&diff=prev&oldid=1189335092 first]
:*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kochari&diff=1189337222&oldid=1189336660&direction=prev second]
:*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kochari&diff=prev&oldid=1189342898 third]
:--Bbb23 (talk) 14:56, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
::The [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kochari&diff=1189337222&oldid=1189336660&direction=prev second] one is where I added a page needed tag, which has nothing to do with the dispute. I don't understand how that is a revert. And it was also following an edit by AnomieBOT, which was right after my [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kochari&diff=prev&oldid=1189335092 first] revert. Aintabli (talk) 15:00, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
::Well, hmmm... I think there is a technical issue. When I clicked on the link you've left here, it says "(One intermediate revision by the same user not shown)", which shows that the system merged two of my intermediate edits. Compare [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kochari&diff=1189337222&oldid=1189336660&direction=prev this] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kochari&diff=prev&oldid=1189337222 that]. When I look for that edit separately, it is clear that I added the page needed tag in a separate edit. Aintabli (talk) 15:09, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
::[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kochari&diff=prev&oldid=1189336513 AnomieBOT edited] following my first and second edits you've listed above. They were still consecutive. And by the same token, ArmenianSniper separately undid each of my edits, so they would have way more reverts than I do. Aintabli (talk) 15:11, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
::Sorry for another comment. AnomieBot's edit in between was what led you to believe they were different reverts, but rather they were all a series of related edits and not back and forth reverts. I could have tackled all in a single edit. Aintabli (talk) 15:33, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
:::I'm not going to address all of your comments, but the one about AnomieBot is correct, meaning you reverted twice, not three times. I will correct the record at ANEW and withdraw the warning.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:41, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
::::Thank you for clarifying that there and sorry again for the large amount of edits I made you to your talk page. One last question (but for advice): Would it be disruptive if I seek a 3rd opinion for the dispute “now” because I doubt anything would come out of the discussion on the article’s talkpage, or should I wait? Aintabli (talk) 16:10, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
:::::I don't see how seeking a WP:3O would be disruptive, provided you've not done it previously for the same dispute.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:21, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
::::::Thought posting it right after the ANEW thread could further the dispute, but I guess waiting doesn’t really make sense. Anyways, good day. Aintabli (talk) 17:43, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
[[User:Amitbir]]
Hello, Bbb23,
I don't see how this editor was disruptive enough to warrant an indefinite block. They wrote some crappy draft articles but lots of new editors do that. I don't see that they committed any vandalism. Do you think they were a block-evading editor? Thanks for any insight you can provide. Liz Read! Talk! 01:28, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
:I didn't see any evidence of block evasion. I didn't block them as a VOA but for disruption. One piece of crap I don't block; two I usually do. It's true that a lot of new editors write "crappy" drafts, but, forgive me for repeatedly using the word, there's crap and there's crap. This editor's crap was far worse than the poorly written drafts other new editors create. Hope that illuminates my thinking, even if you don't necessarily agree with me. :-) --Bbb23 (talk) 01:32, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
Request
Please [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAnother_Believer&diff=1189573817&oldid=1189550419 block] ASAP, or let me know where I can submit a formal request. Thanks ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:10, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
If you have time
Hi Bbb23,
Can you have a look at this user again, I am quite convinced he/she is engaging in UPE, as some of his articles are mostly deleted articles. The most recent one that has my attention is this article where it has been previously recreated more than 3 times and was salted [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sola_Oyebade&action=edit&redlink=1 here]. If you follow the [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Olusola_Oyebade&action=history history] you will see that it was created as Sola Oyebade in draftspace and when they probably tried moving it to mainspace and noticed it was salted they decided to use Olusola Oyebade instead.
I had also filed an SPI here earlier but was inconclusive. Jamiebuba (talk) 08:40, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
[[Draft:The True Face of Israel]]
Is it just me, or is this still here? NotAGenious (talk) 16:40, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
:Heh, I'm not going to figure it out, but for some reason the bot recreated it. It's gone now. Let me know if anything else comes back from the dead.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:43, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
Please take a look at this user.
Hello, Bbb23.
You blocked User:Denosio a few days ago.
However, a new user presumed to be his successor appeared.
He's a user named User:ErurFerury, and i'm worried he might be setting a similar precedent to his predecessor.
Dear, I would appreciate it if you could take a look around. Freevisa1234 (talk) 16:41, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
:As you obviously know, blocked and tagged. Thanks for alerting me to it.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:52, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
Obvious sock
Hi Bbb23. Can you please check on User:Tarun Joga 38? Seems like a obvious sock of User:Tarun Joga 38 TJ who was blocked by you. There is no SPI for the master so bringing this here. [https://interaction-timeline.toolforge.org/?wiki=enwiki&user=%E0%AA%95%E0%AB%8B%E0%AA%AE%E0%AB%81%E0%AA%B0%E0%AA%AE%20%E0%AA%AD%E0%AB%80%E0%AA%AE&user=Tarun%20Joga%2038 Interaction Timeline] and both Draft:NTR30 from User talk:કોમુરમ ભીમ and Draft:Devara (2024 film) created by Tarun Joga 38 are the same. Jeraxmoira (talk) 16:41, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
:Soooo messy, blocked and tagged...and thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:59, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
::Happy to help <3 Jeraxmoira (talk) 20:27, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
Happy holidays!
Hello Bbb23: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Cremastra (talk) 22:00, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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Question
How do I report?
This edit [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:QuantumRealm&diff=prev&oldid=1190359871 over here] QuantumRealm (meow🦁 • pawtrack🐾) 13:53, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
:I've already blocked and pulled tpa. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:16, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
Advice for handling block evasion?
About 10 days ago, you closed Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Solomon The Magnifico/Archive#01 December 2023 without action because "The IP edits are old". Indeed, they had stopped editing the day after I reported them. However, they resumed ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bengal_Presidency&diff=prev&oldid=1189713280][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bengal_Presidency&diff=next&oldid=1190818186]) just days after the investigation was closed. (In the second case using another IP address, 175.29.187.29, whose past edits also fit the pattern of Solomon The Magnifico editing while logged out.) What is the best way to address their attempts at block evasion? --Worldbruce (talk) 12:05, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
:Mostly the same way you deal with any edits you believe are unconstructive: you undo them with an edit summary as to why. If you wish to mention block evasion in your edit summary, you can. If the IP edits are persistent and occurring "now", then you can file another report, but I can't promise swift action at SPI.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:02, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
Block
Didn't mean to step on your toes with that block. I wasn't redoing your block because I thought you did wrong, I did it because they doubled down afterwards and indicated they were unwilling to be a collaborative member of the community. Canterbury Tail talk 22:18, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
:As I just said on the user's Talk page, I appreciate what you did, but as {{U|Ferret}} pointed out, my block should have been longer than 72h.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:20, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
Following Up on Previous Concerns
Following up on our previous discussion (User_talk:Bbb23/Archive_61#Sock_Puppet_Concerns), do you think there is more to go on here in order to investigate if infact there is sock puppetry going on? MaskedSinger (talk) 07:43, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
:I know I just blocked a named user yesterday, but it wasn't for socking. When I look at the two articles, I get a little dizzy with the disruption, but my view now is roughly the same as it was before. At least I don't know how to investigate it. Do you think that {{noping|Lovemjseo}} is the same person as another named account who has edited recently?--Bbb23 (talk) 15:05, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
::I've got no idea. It's just extremely suspicious that there's a farm of dormant accounts who all emerged from their hibernation at the same time with the same opinions to comment on this issue. MaskedSinger (talk) 15:39, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
Revdel on History of York
Regarding your removal of copyrighted content at History of York. The revdel tag I applied actually is for earlier revisions. It looks like the editor added back the copyrighted text that I removed so the original revdel request is still not done. -- Whpq (talk) 02:45, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
:I'm not very good at that sort of thing. Can you fix it? Or I could restore the template and someone else will come along.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:00, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
::I've done it. I placed the original revdel request because I wanted a second set of eyes to look at it as it was close paraphrasing, but since you agree and the second addition was the same text as the first addition, I'm comfortable dealing with it. Thanks. -- Whpq (talk) 15:38, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
:::Yes, it wasn't verbatim, but not only was it close paraphrasing, but the key expression was the same, he just redistributed the phrases. It looked sly, tbh. Thanks for taking care of it.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:21, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
what's goning on why my pages are keeping deleted?
what's goning on why my pages are keeping deleted?. In arabic wikipedia we understand the proplem of speedy deletion and take the action but in my aricle of mohamed the page was deleted after i added the sources. Can you tell me why?. بافلي مجدي (talk) 16:44, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
:I think you should stick to the Arabic Wikipedia.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:50, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
::Hello Bbb23,, what a strange answer!!, I meet editors from the English Wikipedia in Arabic Wikipedia and we help them. Is this how we are treated here?. بافلي مجدي (talk) 16:53, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
[[User:UBX/US soccer]]
Hello! I just noticed that this userbox was deleted about a month ago for vandalism, specifically for being a hoax. I am not sure what happened with that infobox, but is there any way to get that restored? It certainly used to be fine so I am not sure why it got speedy deleted. Jay eyem (talk) 17:55, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
:I'm not sure either, restored.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:08, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of [[:Template:GS/SCW&ISIL notification]]
File:Ambox warning blue.svg:Template:GS/SCW&ISIL notification has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:12, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
*clears throat*
You might be interested in the most recent message I've received on my talk page. I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 14:24, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
:I got your ping. The new account is now blocked. Thanks very much.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:25, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
Sockpuppets
Hello, Bbb23,
I've been looking into some sockpuppets and noticed that you recently blocked User:Secularyear2023. While they have been dormant for almost all of 2023, I noticed that User:Secular Player was making very similar edits to Secularyear2023 and could either be the sockmaster or another sockpuppet. Liz Read! Talk! 01:55, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
:I noticed the account as well but decided to take no action because they haven't edited in so long.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:14, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
::Okay, I defer to you. And I was incorrect, you blocked User:Getlost2023 not User:Secularyear2023. Liz Read! Talk! 02:25, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
AN notification on behalf of (block-evading?) IP
Hi Bbb23, unless it has been removed, there's a complaint at {{slink|Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#CU_check_by_Bbb23}}. Thanks for your work. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 12:16, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
:Thanks for the notification, {{U|ToBeFree}}. I'm not sure why no one's blocked the IP, but I'll leave it alone.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:45, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
Seasonal greetings!!
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Troll_Artist_Dot_Com&curid=74569870&diff=1191904941&oldid=1191847978 "not promotional in the slightest"]
Hi, I have no problem with you not finding this promotional enough for a G11, but a 1-line draft with only an EL to their book on a bookseller's website doesn't sound "in the slightest" to me... Anyway, happy holidays! --Randykitty (talk) 15:52, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
Hello Sir i need some help ?
If i have a question can you help me with Simple English Wikipedia ? Harman Jauhh (talk) 16:33, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
:Ask for help over there.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:34, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
::i am not getting appropriate support from Simple wiki admins Harman Jauhh (talk) 16:35, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
:::Not a thing I can do about that.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:36, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
Hmm...
I'm not an admin, but something seems off here:
- [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Survivor_(British_series_3)&diff=prev&oldid=1190633009 GA nom] by User:Thecheeseistalking98
- [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Survivor_(British_series_3)/GA1&oldid=1191245940 GA pickup] by same editor (?)
- Special:contributions/Applesandcarrots261 (review by brand new editor)
- Talk:Survivor (British series 3)/GA1
Are you able to take a look? ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:53, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
:Very suspicious. I've blocked both accounts as socks. I undid all the GA stuff I could see; if I missed something, let me know or take care of it yourself. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:52, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
::Thanks ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:52, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
Mr.BB23 Be neutral
Rana Raeis who is known for 105 million egyptians is not suitable?? xD.
mr.bb23 if you will delelte or move my future pages to drafts tell me now so i can understand. بافلي مجدي (talk) 18:34, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
:You know what i'll not even edit a single edit in this page or submit it for review but you'll see professional editors in wikipedia english after few months will create about this actress. بافلي مجدي (talk) 18:37, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
[[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Lazy-restless]]
Hi, You declined g4 for Draft:Bengali writing in Arabic script, however it is a WP:OR. It was deleted previously per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pak-Bangla language. Even in this version, 95% completely matches with previously deleted version. (https://en.everybodywiki. com/Pak-Bangla_language ). Also most likely this version was created by same sock. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Lazy-restless/Archive#23_December_2023, User_talk:Izno#Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Lazy-restless. Last week User:Izno made two range block for this sock. I can request for SPI but it will be declined since it was created by an IP. If we are going to keep article created by LTA & encourage them, then there is no point for me to fight LTA. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 19:50, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
:I didn't know about the sock connection. I've blocked the IP and deleted the draft, as well as another draft, per WP:G5.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:39, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
Question about your draftifying procedure
Hey Bbb23, I have a question as it relates to your draftification procedure. Your move of Draft:Abu Iman brings me here. I have been previously advised that editors should get 60 minutes per WP:DRAFTIFY but I would agree that an article like that should be created in the draftspace. I’m curious what policy or guideline I could cite to if I expeditiously draftified an article?
Thanks, microbiologyMarcus (petri dish·growths) 02:12, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
:I don't see anything about 60 minutes.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:25, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
::Under {{slink|WP:Drafts|During new page review|nopage=y}} {{xt|3. there is no evidence of active improvement (at least one hour since the last constructive edit)}}. When using the WP:MTD you even get a warning about early actions, see on the image example :File:MoveToDraft - Options screen.png. microbiologyMarcus (petri dish·growths) 16:13, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
:::Ah, thanks, I was searching for "minutes" not "hour". It's good you follow the guidelines, but as far as I'm concerned, they are just guidelines. It was clear that the author was working on creating an article, and it should never have even begun in article space with something so crude, so I moved it.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:18, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
Reverting without proper explanation
I have seen you reverting my work on the article BCIC College without proper explanation. I have stated my reason for the unsourced infos. You can check the schools website if you can find any info. I am a former student of the college and I have knowledge about my institution via eye witnesses and real time observation. If you still have issue with the article not being sourced, I can give you my student id to check If I am a former student or not. Imamul Ifaz (talk) 18:42, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
:Your edits are just short of vandalism, and the final warning I left you on your Talk page stands. Edits to Wikipedia articles must be sourced. Your say-so as a former student is WP:OR and contrary to policy. As I also said in my warning, the unsourced edits are blatantly promotional. We don't use language like that in articles.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:46, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
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[[Talk:Jelena Đurović]]
Your last edits seem to have left this in a muddle? Didn't revert to intended version? I'll try and tidy it. PamD 21:18, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
:Ah, I think they are longstanding typos, which have been fixed previously in complex edits by socks etc so reverted. Have just fixed the two typos, and left a note. PamD 21:22, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
Query
Why did you remove the speedy tag [redact]? This page is not only the user talk of a sock of an LTA troll who engages in targeted harassment of me personally, the sock is using my real name. The existence of the page is an attempt at WP:OUTING and it needs to be removed entirely. And it's not even a real user talk page anymore. There is no such user name registered, (the account was deleted apparently) and the page was edited by another sock of the harasser. In other words, I'd much appreciate it if you'd just delete the page entirely. There's no reason to maintain it. oknazevad (talk) 01:20, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
:@Oknazevad Striking my prior, digging deeper as I missed the fact it's not an account's actual talk page. -- ferret (talk) 03:02, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
:@Oknazevad OS is aware and looking. -- ferret (talk) 03:08, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
Question
So, User:Mahadeb73, thanked me for a (sequential) bunch of old edits to wp:admin.
I checked their contribs, and only see 2 edits, and on their userpage I see Government of India. So, among other things, they seem to know wiki-syntax.
I'm not sure what (if anything) there is to address, but it all combined struck me as odd, and so I thought I'd ask your thoughts on this. - jc37 17:53, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
:No clue what's going on, but I blocked them as WP:NOTHERE based on their extensive Thanks log.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:06, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks for looking into this. - jc37 19:10, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
Request for batch revert
Hi-
I'd like to request that all edits done by permanently blocked editor Daxtonlab with "created references section" in the summary ([https://sigma.toolforge.org/summary.py?name=Daxtonlab&search=created+references+section&max=50&server=enwiki&ns=&enddate=&startdate= 1639 edits]) be reverted or, since I'm not sure this is possible, all their edits (4107 edits) be reverted.
The first bunch creates empty References sections in all those files. His other (all well intentioned) changes aren't as bad, but none of them are improvements. They mostly introduce WP:OL in text, or make meaningless changes to "website=" parameters or add incorrect "journal=" parameters to citations.
Let me know if there's any more information I can give you, or if I should ask someone else.
Thanks, Dan Bloch (talk) 19:44, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
:I think you should take this to WP:AN.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:44, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
::Will do. Thanks. Dan Bloch (talk) 19:18, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
[[User:Sadbunny3]]
They have indicated a willingness to accept the standard offer and use only one account ... actually, they did that before Christmas. Since no one's responded to it they pinged me again, so I have put the request hold for input from you, as the blocking admin. Daniel Case (talk) 19:13, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
:{{re|Daniel Case}} Sorry for the delay in responding. Do you know when the last time a CU ran a check on Sadbunny3 to make sure they have not obviously socked in the last 90 days?--Bbb23 (talk) 14:40, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
::No, I don't. Could you, if it's not too much to ask? Daniel Case (talk) 18:56, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
:::I'll request it: {{tl|checkuser needed}}.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:07, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
::::{{tpw|safe=yes}} I saw the request earlier and was already checking. They are using one connection on which they have a not-very-common (but not rare or particularly unique) device in common with a few other accounts and IP edits, but other non-technical factors lead me to believe this is above board. The other accounts lack data to say conclusively that they're unrelated, and checkuser cannot prove a negative anyway, but in the context of the unblock request my opinion is that this is a green light. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:26, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
:::::Thanks much, {{U|Ivanvector}}. {{U|Daniel Case|Daniel}}, if you think we should unblock the user, then please go ahead.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:41, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
::::::You're welcome! Daniel Case (talk) 21:29, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
Question regarding reverted edits on [[Kanaphan Puitrakul]] and Discussion
Hi there. I saw you had reverted edits on Kanaphan Puitrakul's page that I had question in the discussion, and had also removed that user's answers to my discussion post. I see that user is now blocked. Can you please provide a bit more context about the decision? I'd like to understand better. I do think some of the edits to the page had merit, but others not. Thanks. SlipknotRlZZ (talk) 00:40, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
:The user was blocked as a sock, and their edits were therefore reverted.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:41, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
FYI, the accused sockmaster (BrightsForever) is denying this on their talk page. Since you tagged them as suspected and not CU-confirmed, I told them to make an unblock request. --Paul_012 (talk) 13:11, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Insert eye roll here
Well that's wholly unsurprising.-- Ponyobons mots 20:19, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
:Plus ca change plus c'est la meme chose.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:31, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Question
I haven't done an SPI in ages. I suspect (I'm pretty sure) that someone I've been interacting with is a banned user (master account initials FS), but based upon the past, my guess is that checkuser is unlikely to find anything. So an SPI may be a waste of time. But I don't know. Any idea what my next steps should be, if anything? - jc37 16:05, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
:Too abstract for me, maybe some details?--Bbb23 (talk) 16:08, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
::Sorry about being vague. Just feeling unsure of my footing here. - jc37 16:13, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
:::Not much I can say except that SPIs are often decided based on behavior, not CU, so the fact that someone is stale should not be a barrier to filing an SPI.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:15, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
::::Ok thank you. I really haven't done a deep dive into their contribs to build a case. I guess for now that waits for another day when I have more time. Hopefully they won't be too much more disruptive in the meantime. Thanks again, I appreciate your advice. - jc37 16:26, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
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Re: Block
@Bbb23 I understand what you mean. What can I do? Where can I report this? Thank you. Kind regards, 14 novembre (talk) 16:09, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
:There's nothing you can do except appeal at it.wiki. If you've already tried that and if they have some sort of arbitration committee (as we do), you can appeal to them.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:14, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
::@Bbb23 Thank you, what do you mean for "appeal" how can I know if they have one 14 novembre (talk) 16:24, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
:::I've asked {{U|Elwood}}, the administrator who blocked you, whether they have a committee.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:41, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi Bbb23,
The User is a well-known LTA, "Calicanto2023", blocked until October and with very good reasons. The user "November 14" is the tenth he has created and to date we count more than 20 SP (the last one two hours ago) almost all of them just to create annoyance or nonsense. He obsessively repeats his unjustifiable request and has already been answered. There is nothing to do but ignore it. --Elwood (talk) 17:29, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
:{{re|Elwood}} I was right. Your English is WAY better than my Italian, which consists mainly of operatic phrases and my knowledge of other romance languages. Thanks for the elaboration on the user's conduct at it.wiki, but having gone this far, I'm still curious. Does it.wiki have an arbitration committee, and, if so, does it function the way ours does?--Bbb23 (talk) 17:33, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
::No, we don't have it (at least for now), but requests for unblocking or clarification normally come through the usual various channels, talk, email etc. and to the attention of all sysops in RAA and are always considered by multiple parties. --Elwood (talk) 18:12, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
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