User talk:Jarry1250/Archive 26#Protection of David A. Bell

Hi Jarry1250. I can see you're not recently active but just hoping you might see this. For the last week or so the tool you created (https://grep.toolforge.org/) has been timing out. If you can fix it, or point me in the direction of another solution, that would be great. It's a really useful tool! Thanks Tassedethe (talk) 17:19, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

:{{ping|Tassedethe}} Thanks for letting me know, should be fixed now. :) - Jarry1250 ^{[Vacation needed]} 18:33, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

::That's great! Thanks so much, Tassedethe (talk) 18:46, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi Jarry, hope you're well. Just letting you know that your very helpful wikicup tool (https://wikicup.toolforge.org/) is malfunctioning in some way; it just produces a gateway timeout. Please let me know if you can fix it? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:13, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

:{{ping|AirshipJungleman29}} Thanks for letting me know -- should be fixed now. - Jarry1250 ^{[Vacation needed]} 21:10, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

I see that this article was deleted (and recreated, and redeleted, and recreated, and etc etc) some decades ago, and finally salted pursuant to an AN thread in 2012. Since then, of course, some new sources have come to light; currently I've got something at User:JPxG/Draft27 that I would like to put in mainspace. Would you be amenable to unprotecting? jp×g 06:31, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello - I see that over ten years ago, you protected David A. Bell from being recreated. Can I suggest taking a fresh look at this, and perhaps creating a redirect for David A. Bell to point to the disambig page David Bell? There are numerous people who could be described as David A. Bell who now have articles. Thanks very much. KConWiki (talk) 03:33, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

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Hello and thank you for a great [https://grep.toolforge.org/ tool]. I have some questions however. Firstly the [https://github.com/Jarry1250/labs-/ show source] link at the bottom of the page is a dead link, so it should be updated if possible.

Secondly I noticed that the regex ^Deletion requests\/[^A-Za-z0-9]{8}\/[^A-Za-z0-9]{4}\/[^A-Za-z0-9]{4}$ ([https://grep.toolforge.org/index.php?lang=commons&project=wikimedia&namespace=4&pattern=%5EDeletion+requests%5C%2F%5B%5EA-Za-z0-9%5D%7B8%7D%5C%2F%5B%5EA-Za-z0-9%5D%7B4%7D%5C%2F%5B%5EA-Za-z0-9%5D%7B4%7D%24 search]) matches c:Commons:Deletion requests/٢٠٢٢/٠٣/٠١ and the regex ^Deletion requests\/[^A-Za-z0-9]{12}\/[^A-Za-z0-9]{6}\/[^A-Za-z0-9]{6}$ ([https://grep.toolforge.org/index.php?lang=commons&project=wikimedia&namespace=4&pattern=%5EDeletion+requests%5C%2F%5B%5EA-Za-z0-9%5D%7B12%7D%5C%2F%5B%5EA-Za-z0-9%5D%7B6%7D%5C%2F%5B%5EA-Za-z0-9%5D%7B6%7D%24 search]) matches c:Commons:Deletion requests/২০২৩/০৭/০৬ whereas I would expect that ^Deletion requests\/[^A-Za-z0-9]{4}\/[^A-Za-z0-9]{2}\/[^A-Za-z0-9]{2}$ ([https://grep.toolforge.org/index.php?lang=commons&project=wikimedia&namespace=4&pattern=%5EDeletion+requests%5C%2F%5B%5EA-Za-z0-9%5D%7B4%7D%5C%2F%5B%5EA-Za-z0-9%5D%7B2%7D%5C%2F%5B%5EA-Za-z0-9%5D%7B2%7D%24 search]) would match them both, but as you can see, that search gives 0 results. {{#invoke:string|len|২০২৩}} gives {{#invoke:string|len|২০২৩}} so {4} should be the good regex but it's {12} that works. I guess this is a bug? Jonteemil (talk) 20:37, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

:Also the regex ^Deletion requests\/[^A-Za-z0-9]{,12}\/[^A-Za-z0-9]{,6}\/[^A-Za-z0-9]{,6}$ ([https://grep.toolforge.org/index.php?lang=commons&project=wikimedia&namespace=4&pattern=%5EDeletion+requests%5C%2F%5B%5EA-Za-z0-9%5D%7B%2C12%7D%5C%2F%5B%5EA-Za-z0-9%5D%7B%2C6%7D%5C%2F%5B%5EA-Za-z0-9%5D%7B%2C6%7D%24 search]) matches nothing whereas ^Deletion requests\/[^A-Za-z0-9]{8,12}\/[^A-Za-z0-9]{4,6}\/[^A-Za-z0-9]{4,6}$ ([https://grep.toolforge.org/index.php?lang=commons&project=wikimedia&namespace=4&pattern=%5EDeletion+requests%5C%2F%5B%5EA-Za-z0-9%5D%7B8%2C12%7D%5C%2F%5B%5EA-Za-z0-9%5D%7B4%2C6%7D%5C%2F%5B%5EA-Za-z0-9%5D%7B4%2C6%7D%24 search]) matches both c:Commons:Deletion requests/٢٠٢٢/٠٣/٠١ and c:Commons:Deletion requests/২০২৩/০৭/০৬. I would expect both regexes to find both pages (with the bug present, optionally only the first regex would match both pages and the second none). Jonteemil (talk) 20:44, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

::Hi Jonteemil. Thanks - I have fixed the view source links. As regards the regex issues, the grep tool simply passes the regex to a custom MariaDB command. Given your examples, it seems to me that MariaDB works (by default) on the basis of "number of bytes" rather than "number of characters": ٢ and ٠ are 2 bytes each, whereas ২ and ০ are 3 bytes (and so on). However, you can switch to "number of characters" mode by prefixing your search regex with "(*UTF)". Best, - Jarry1250 ^{[Vacation needed]} 18:14, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

:::I see. Where do I put (*UTF) to prefix it to the search? Jonteemil (talk) 18:55, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

::::Right at the beginning, like [https://grep.toolforge.org/index.php?lang=commons&project=wikimedia&namespace=4&pattern=%28*UTF%29%5EDeletion+requests%5C%2F%5B%5EA-Za-z0-9%5D%7B4%7D%5C%2F%5B%5EA-Za-z0-9%5D%7B2%7D%5C%2F%5B%5EA-Za-z0-9%5D%7B2%7D%24 this].

::::p.s. I realise I also missed your other question. Apparently, in PCRE (the impresentation of regular expressions that MariaDB uses), {,6} is not valid syntax (but {0,6} and {6,} are). Best, - Jarry1250 ^{[Vacation needed]} 19:36, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

:::::Thanks! Jonteemil (talk) 20:25, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

The fourth round of the competition has finished, with anyone scoring less than 673 points being eliminated. It was a high scoring round with all but one of the contestants who progressed to the final having achieved an FA during the round. The highest scorers were

• {{flagicon|New York (state)}} Epicgenius, with 2173 points topping the scores, gained mainly from a featured article, 38 good articles and 9 DYKs. He was followed by
• {{flagicon image|Transgender Pride flag.svg|link=Transgender}} Sammi Brie, with 1575 points, gained mainly from a featured article, 28 good articles and 50 good article reviews. Close behind was
• {{flagicon image|Flag of Mars.svg|link=Mars}} Thebiguglyalien, with 1535 points mainly gained from a featured article, 15 good articles, 26 good article reviews and lots of bonus points.

Between them during round 4, contestants achieved 12 featured articles, 3 featured lists, 3 featured pictures, 126 good articles, 46 DYK entries, 14 ITN entries, 67 featured article candidate reviews and 147 good article reviews. Congratulations to our eight finalists and all who participated! It was a generally high-scoring and productive round and I think we can expect a highly competitive finish to the competition.

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The WikiCup is a marathon rather than a sprint and all those reaching the final round have been involved in the competition for the last ten months, improving Wikipedia vastly during the process. After all this hard work, {{flagicon|Delaware}} BeanieFan11 has emerged as the 2023 winner and the WikiCup Champion. The finalists this year were:-

• {{flagicon|Delaware}} BeanieFan11 with 2582 points
• {{flagicon image|Flag of Mars.svg|link=Mars}} Thebiguglyalien with 1615 points
• {{flagicon|New York (state)}} Epicgenius with 1518 points
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Congratulations to everyone who participated in this year's WikiCup, whether they made it to the final round or not, and particular congratulations to the newcomers to the competition, some of whom did very well. Wikipedia has benefitted greatly from the quality creations, expansions and improvements made, and the numerous reviews performed. All those who reached the final round will win awards. The following special awards will be made based on high performance in particular areas of content creation and review. Awards will be handed out in the next few days.

• {{flagicon image|Royal standard of England (1406–1603).svg|link=Dual monarchy of England and France}} Unlimitedlead wins the featured article prize, for 7 FAs in total including 3 in round 2.
• {{flagicon image|Cat in console.png}} MyCatIsAChonk wins the featured list prize, for 5 FLs in total.
• {{flagicon|ENG}} Lee Vilenski wins the featured topic prize, for a 6-article featured topic in round 4.
• {{flagicon image|Cat in console.png}} MyCatIsAChonk wins the featured picture prize, for 6 FPs in total.
• {{flagicon|Delaware}} BeanieFan11 wins the good article prize, for 75 GAs in total, including 61 in the final round.
• {{flagicon|New York (state)}} Epicgenius wins the good topic prize, for a 41-article good topic in the final round.
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• {{flagicon image|Cat in console.png}} MyCatIsAChonk wins the FA reviewer prize, for 66 FA reviews in the final round.
• {{flagicon|New York (state)}} Epicgenius wins the DYK prize, for 49 did you know articles in total.
• {{flagicon|Ukraine}} Muboshgu wins the ITN prize, for 46 in the news articles in total.

The WikiCup has run every year since 2007. With the 2023 contest now concluded, I will be standing down as a judge due to real life commitments, so I hope that another editor will take over running the competition. Please get in touch if you are interested. Next year's competition will hopefully begin on 1 January 2024. You are invited to sign up to participate in the contest; the WikiCup is open to all Wikipedians, both novices and experienced editors. It only remains to congratulate our worthy winners once again and thank all participants for their involvement! (If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send.) Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:51, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

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Hi there Jarry; over at the Wikicup talk page we're discussing changing the Wikicup bonus point system. It hasn't gained full consensus yet, but would it be possible to implement the system titled "Kusma's proposal" in the current script? If not, no worries. Many thanks, ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:19, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

:@AirshipJungleman29 213.139.45.8 (talk) 02:54, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

I'm trying to move David Bell (historian) to David A. Bell since it's by far the WP:COMMONNAME for this person. However, the page was protected from creation by you in 2012, apparently from a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive229#List_created. It's not clear to me why this page needs to continue to be protected, so could you unprotect it? WP:RFUP requires me to ask the protecting admin first before posting there. Thanks, Malerisch (talk) 07:42, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi; thanks for your very useful toolforge:templatecount tool. I'm trying to figure out the number of uses of {{tl|Reflist}} in mainspace. I get 5.9M total at the tool, but a lot of those are likely from Talk. An input field for namespace of the transcluding page at the tool would be a nice enhancement. Mathglot (talk) 22:03, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi Jarry1250. For a week or so your grep tool (https://grep.toolforge.org/) has been reporting a 504 timeout. I hope this is something you can fix as it's a very useful tool! Many thanks. Tassedethe (talk) 00:43, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

:Just FYI, the tool has been up and running for a few days now. Thanks if it was your doing, or thanks to other Wikignomes. Tassedethe (talk) 17:20, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2023).

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• Following a talk page discussion, the Administrators' accountability policy has been updated to note that while it is considered best practice for administrators to have notifications (pings) enabled, this is not mandatory. Administrators who do not use notifications are now strongly encouraged to indicate this on their user page.

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• Following a motion, the Extended Confirmed Restriction has been amended, removing the allowance for non-extended-confirmed editors to post constructive comments on the "Talk:" namespace. Now, non-extended-confirmed editors may use the "Talk:" namespace solely to make edit requests related to articles within the topic area, provided that their actions are not disruptive.
• The Arbitration Committee has announced a call for Checkusers and Oversighters, stating that it will currently be accepting applications for CheckUser and/or Oversight permissions at any point in the year.
• Eligible users are invited to vote on candidates for the Arbitration Committee until 23:59 December 11, 2023 (UTC). Candidate statements can be seen here.

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Hello. You are listed as a member of the Bot Approvals Group but it appears you may not be actively helping in this area anymore. Do you intend to return to BAG-related activity on Wikipedia, or are you happy to be removed from this list? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:01, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

:Hi Martin. Happy to be removed from the list. Best, - Jarry1250 ^{[Vacation needed]} 21:36, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

::Thanks, that's done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 18:53, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2023).

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• Following the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: {{Noping|Aoidh}}, {{Noping|Cabayi}}, {{Noping|Firefly}}, {{Noping|HJ Mitchell}}, {{Noping|Maxim}}, {{Noping|Sdrqaz}}, {{Noping|ToBeFree}}, {{Noping|Z1720}}.
• Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee rescinded the restrictions on the page name move discussions for the two Ireland pages that were enacted in June 2009.
• The arbitration case Industrial agriculture has been closed.

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• The New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in January 2024 to reduce the backlog of articles in the new pages feed. Currently, there is a backlog of over 13,000 unreviewed articles awaiting review. Sign up here to participate!

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