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Positive feedback is like manna. Thank you for leaving this message. Anything but condescending. Very kind! jengod (talk) 15:50, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Jengod. Thank you for your work on Curley Stecker. User:Onel5969, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

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Since the articles you create will no longer be systematically reviewed by other editors, it is important that you maintain the high standard you have achieved so far in all your future creations. Please also try to remember to add relevant WikiProject templates, stub tags, categories, and incoming links to them, if you aren't already in the habit; user scripts such as Rater and StubSorter can help with this. As you have already shown that you have a strong grasp of Wikipedia's core content policies, you might also consider volunteering to become a new page patroller yourself, helping to uphold the project's standards and encourage other good faith article writers.

Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! —Femke 🐦 (talk) 20:44, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

:Thank you {{ping|Femke}}! jengod (talk) 21:37, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much for creating the Founding Fathers of the United States page, an inspiration as it came in pretty late (2004) after Wikipedia's beginning. And especially good to have you back editing the page. I really like the John Trumbull addition as a patriot, something, like the page topic itself, that everybody else missed. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:06, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

:My thanks, also. I share all of {{u|Randy Kryn|Randy}}'s sentiments. We'll have to have 20th anniversary party next year. Be sure to bring the champagne. :) Allreet (talk) 14:00, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

::Yes, {{u|Allreet}}, here are [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Founding_Fathers_of_the_United_States&oldid=2864341 the results of Jengod's first edits on March 21, 2004], three years and two months after Wikipedia's creation (where was everyone else, asleep at the switch?). Notice how far along she progressed the page on that first day and set in motion many of the sections and concepts that remain as part of the page. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:32, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

:::Bless you both. I cannot fathom where I got all that from. I imagine some corner of dot gov? Anyway happy to have laid a poorly sourced foundation stone for all that's come after. Cheers {{u|Allreet}} and {{u|Randy Kryn}} jengod (talk) 15:14, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

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Hello, Jengod,

If you are going to participate in AFD deletion discussions, please take them seriously, evaluate the article and its sources and provide a policy-based reason for why you think the article should be deleted, redirected, merged or kept. One word answers, like you gave at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SLOOP Project (2nd nomination), are not a useful contribution to a conversation on what should happen with an article, it's just a "vote, and these are just dismissed by a discussion closer. Offer a thoughtful opinion that demonstrates your knowledge of how articles should be constructed. If you have time, look for additional sources that could support claims in an article under discussion. That would make a valuable contribution to any deletion discussion. If you find this too demanding of your time, then perhaps this is not an area of the project that is worth spending your time on and you could find other areas to make contributions to. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:10, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

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Please change the header name to something more appropriate, it looks like vandalism right now... ★Trekker (talk) 21:36, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

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There is a debate over whether to keep :Category:Homes of United States Founding Fathers as a category. More opinions are needed. The discussion is located here. Randy Kryn (talk) 04:27, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

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You are recipient no. 2814 of Precious, a prize of QAI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:13, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

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Curious why you didn't boldly move into Mainspace. The article looks good, almost too good, yet has sat in AfC queue for months and presumably skipped by numerous reviewers. Anyway, wondering if I am missing something before I press accept. Slywriter (talk) 03:59, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

:{{ping|Slywriter}} Ha! I had no interesting motives whatsoever, I just "volunteer" in draftspace sometimes to help newbies who have created decent but slightly rough articles. I try to do a little editorial finesse stuff that might help them get approved and/or make things easier on admins etc. I wouldn't dream of publishing on my own authority. thanks for all you do! jengod (talk) 04:24, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

::20 years, 75k edits... Should consider being on the AfC team to help those new editors. Also, in case you never seen, I find this cat useful as can tell what drafts are fresh vs lingering, CAT:AFC/AGE. Anyway, have fun. Slywriter (talk) 15:17, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

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Wouldn't it be better to have the original image instead of the one with the MS Paint red circle on {{-r|File:AD FOR COON CARDS Souvenir Post Cards Chattanooga Daily Times Tennessee 1905.jpg|File:AD FOR COON CARDS}}? Didn't want to revert it without discussing it with you. 〜 Festucalex • talk 07:56, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

:{{u|Festucalex}} Very nice of you to communicate. I'm not at all attached. I added the circle because it seemed really hard to "see/notice" without the circle. People are just cruising by. Use your best judgment. Whatever works best for the page. Cheers. jengod (talk) 12:21, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

::I went ahead and reverted it, my logic being that anyone could modify it and upload that separately. Let the original be the original. 〜 Festucalex • talk 12:30, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

:::{{u|Festucalex}} cool. Cheers. jengod (talk) 12:32, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

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As there is no record of him shooting down five or more enemy aircraft, he is not an ace. This can be verified at https://www.theaerodrome.com/aces/by_name.php?pageNum_names=1&totalRows_names=33&KT_az=E. Nor is he listed in print in Above the Lines, where he would be expected to appear on pages 103 or 104.Georgejdorner (talk) 18:57, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

:Thank you {{u|Georgejdorner}}! I imagine he had an interesting military career but I think "flying ace" was a latter-day short-hand for "flew a plane during WWI." Very much appreciate the research help! jengod (talk) 19:09, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

::Indeed, the term is often used loosely. I have followed the strict definition.Georgejdorner (talk) 18:21, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

:Aww thanks @StarTrekker -- this is my first-ever barnstar! It means a lot. Best, jengod (talk) 21:11, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

::I am shocked to heard that! You've been a diligent editor for many years. Thanks again for your great work.★Trekker (talk) 11:17, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

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Like I asked you in Talk:List of large carnivores known to prey on humans, may you please create a Talk page and add their associate WikiProjects, this is an important process, so please make it easier for others, like myself, to assess the articles you started. Many of those articles lack Talk pages, this is not good because others can't always create a Talk page for you. Dancing Dollar ^{(let's talk)} 05:19, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

:Hi {{u|Dancing Dollar}} (1) "others can't always create a Talk page for you" - any user can create a talk page for any article. - Do you mean they shouldn't have to? Possibly, but we all lean into our strengths here and pitch in where we can. People who function differently than you may yet have valuable contributions.

:(2) Are you perchance a sock puppet of the user who created Lion attacks? If yes I wish you the best of luck with your Wikipedia:Clean start but also please refrain from commenting on my user talk page again. I do not wish to communicate with you. jengod (talk) 05:50, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

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:Thanks for this: Ranchos of Los Angeles County on the main page today - your work is awesome! Netherzone (talk) 01:55, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

::Awww, it's my pleasure, @Netherzone. Thanks for the positive reinforcement. :) jengod (talk) 02:59, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

:::Came to say the same. Excellent work. Making such a good-looking and informative table is so tedious. BorgQueen (talk) 03:20, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

::::@BorgQueen as they say "comments feed the writer" LOL - seriously thanks for coming by and leaving a note, it genuinely means a lot. jengod (talk) 03:32, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi Jengod, I saw your edits to Providence and Springfield Railroad. If you're interesting in making an article on the greenway, I'd be happy to take some photos of it as I live locally, though there's a few already [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Woonasquatucket_River_Greenway on Commons]. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 17:00, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

:@Trainsandotherthings omg you're lovely. I do love covering greenways and rail trails (for ex Redondo Beach via Playa del Rey Line --> Culver Boulevard Median Bike Path) altho I am very far away from that one. I'm in the middle of a massive biography project right now (see User:Jengod/Dolly for one of like 10 in a forthcoming series) but if and when I ever finish that I'll see what I can do for Woonasquatucket River Greenway and summon you for photos 😝 Cheers jengod (talk) 17:57, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

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Thanks for affirming various entries I've made recently to the Slavery article's Bibliography. I'm currently working on the Constitution of the United States and Bibliography of the United States Constitution articles, both of which of course relate to the issue of slavery. Along the way, I've come across a slew of books and journal articles on the subject and will be adding these to the bibliography when time allows. Any and all feedback would be appreciated. Allreet (talk) 19:11, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

:@Allreet my only thoughts are take a look at Bibliography of the American Civil War and/or that somewhere down the line we might just want Bibliography of slavery in the United States. I'm absolutely not trained in this domain but I do see a lot of room for improvement in, say, Slave trade in the United States, so I have this on my long-term to-do list. TY for contributing!! jengod (talk) 19:15, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

::Agree on all counts. I have been using the Civil War's bibliography as a "model" and with that, have also considered a separate bibliography on Slavery. Per your reference, I took a look at the Slave trade article and agree on the need for improvement. That's even more apparent regarding Slavery and the United States Constitution which is essentially a stub. My first impression was to consider nominating the article for deletion, but I believe my reaction was based on the effort a fuller treatment would require, not the subject's notability (huge). Allreet (talk) 16:37, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

:::Yes @Allreet I think it's essentially like if the U.S. had a Holocaust but we all agreed to not talk about it for 150 years. It's the most encyclopedic of topics but it's grim stuff and when this place runs on a volunteer basis everyone can just yell "not it" forever. I'm working on some bios of formerly enslaved people right now and I keep having to take breaks bc otherwise I get too emotional about it to function. Anyway, we'll just keep eating the elephant one bite at a time! jengod (talk) 20:46, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

::::Good analogy. And thanks for tackling what you are. I've had only glimpses, but nothing too up close and personal because of the nature of the history I've been buried in. I have noticed a tendency here to downplay slavery and excuse the founders. While that may reflect the work of historians, no doubt some of our contributors are even less objective. So, yes, a bite at a time seems in order. Allreet (talk) 22:22, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

:::::Well, here's a daunting project. I did a cursory search and came up with:

::::::Slavery and Slaving in World History: A Bibliography, 1900-1991

::::::* [https://archive.org/details/slaveryslavingin0000mill/page/n5/mode/2up Volume I]

::::::* [https://archive.org/details/slaveryslavingin0002mill/page/n5/mode/2up Volume II]

:::::The bibliography, by Joseph C. Miller of the University of Virginia, covers over 10,000 books and articles. Then there's this, also connected with UVA:

::::::[http://www2.vcdh.virginia.edu/bib/index.php The Bibliography of Slaving and World Slaving]

::::::"...a searchable database containing verified references to approximately 25,000 scholarly works in all academic disciplines and in all western European languages..."

:::::My question is "where does one begin?". One answer would be with articles on the above. As for a bibliography on Slavery in Wikipedia given these resources, your thoughts would be appreciated. Allreet (talk) 14:42, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

::::::@Allreet The most important thing is that it's ok if it never gets done, or if it never gets done by you! The world will keep turning. Also the nice thing about Wikipedia is we loooooove rough drafts. My elephant eating advice, if you really want to tackle, is pick five "subtopics" of slavery, like "slave trade," "legislation," "slave narratives," "music," and "material culture." They don't even have to be umbrella categories, just subtopics that maybe interest you personally! Find 3 tolerably good books or resources for each. Then tag {incomplete-list} and hit publish. And don't stress. It might evolve quickly, or slowly, or get nominated for merge or deletion, but eventually, people will cruise by, fix an error, add one thing, and slowly the snowball gains momentum. The fact that you care is the most important factor, so don't loose that to burnout. Slow is smooth and smooth is fast. You're a good conscientious person and I commend you for giving a damn. jengod (talk) 14:52, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

:::::::Thanks for the good advice, essentially that journeys begin with first steps, as well as the encouragement. Which I intend act on along the lines you recommend. Allreet (talk) 15:40, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

::::::::The first step: Slavery and Slaving in World History: A Bibliography. Allreet (talk) 19:03, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

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Hi Jengod. I've fixed a couple of the nontarget errors in Dolly Johnson, but there are three still outstanding. The first is "Bowen (2005)", there's a Bowen 2003 but no 2005. Is this a typo? The second is "Knoxville News-Sentinel (1943)". There's no cite for 1943, there is for 1927, 1929, 1930 but no 1943. Lastly is "William A. Johnson obituary, Knoxville Journal (1943)", there is a cite for "Knoxville Journal (1943)" but I wanted to make sure they are the same. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 10:45, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

:Oh @ActivelyDisinterested you are so nice! I edit on mobile so can't see those unless I switch to desktop. I will go fuss around. TY!! jengod (talk) 14:42, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

::Never a problem, if you ever have any referencing issues just drop me a message on my talk page. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 14:54, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

:::{{u|ActivelyDisinterested}} Working on it now and TY again for the inline tags. Super helpful. jengod (talk) 14:56, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

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Hello, Thanks for your edit to Mordecai Lincoln. As an FYI, I made an edit so that the couple of sentences before [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mordecai_Lincoln&diff=1160392650&oldid=1136458018 your edit] are cited properly [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mordecai_Lincoln&diff=1160450489&oldid=1160392650 here]. The NRHP citation covers the content - and I am assuming Rugh does, too.

Otherwise, it looks as if the source for your addition covers those sentences, too. –CaroleHenson (talk) 15:14, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

:Thanks @CaroleHenson it was a middle-of-the-night-can't-sleep edit so I need all the help I can get. jengod (talk) 15:56, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

::Wow, do I understand how that can go! Thanks for contributions!–CaroleHenson (talk) 16:37, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi, Jengod. I hope you're feeling better than you were a few weeks ago. If so, are you up for Template:Did you know nominations/Dolly Johnson to proceed? No hurry, but when you're ready, just add {{subst:DYK?again}} to the nom, signaling that it's ready for somebody to review. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 01:55, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

:@Mandarax you're a wonderful DYK leader. I'm past the flu but now on vacay with family. I will add that template as instructed as soon as I return and will be available to respond to queries and requests. TY!! jengod (talk) 04:20, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

::Awww, thanks. Glad to hear you're doing better! MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 05:42, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

Hello @Jengodjust a real quick thank you for enacting the first edits on my first published Wikipedia article Albert Wyndham Payne. Yay!

I particularly went up another floor in the Wikipedia IQ lift, from ground to 1, when I saw the refinement you had made to the V&A source and re-targeted the ref to the collections page. It gave me so much more reliable information to add to article too. (You know this.) Still, thanks once again.

I was so happy on the day got the green panel of acceptance, I wrote a blog called I, Wikipedian which, with a title change to a more inclusive pronoun, will get published in February on Wyndham’s birthday :-)

I feel like my transmogrification from Wikipedia reader to editor has past a tipping point.

Ooh eck! The floodgates are open! Who knows what will happen next… The Nookster (talk) 19:36, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

:Oh wonderful! So glad to see it got approved and welcome @The Nookster jengod (talk) 19:42, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

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