User talk:Rollinginhisgrave#Weighting of legal issues in lede

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Hi RIHG, I hope this message finds you well. I wanted to thank you for the perspectives you added to my All-American Bitch FAC. They were beneficial to the article's ascent to FA status. Would you be interested in reviewing this similarly-sized article, also for the FAC process? It is totally fine if you do not have the time or interest. I hope the new year is going well for you so far.--NØ 17:51, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

From your comment, 'I've been working on trimming the inter-presidency section.' If you are also planning to trim or condense that full section, could you let me know how it is going for the trimmed version and when do you plan it? ErnestKrause (talk) 21:08, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

:Thanks for your comment on the law suits. I've tried a second version of the edit to trim all 4 subsections into a shortened version. ErnestKrause (talk) 01:29, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

::Nice of you to leave your comment on the condense and trims edit for the Trump rhetoric section. I'm starting to think that the 2 paragraph trimmed version is not sufficient, and have tried to do a version that goes to 3 paragraphs which I'll place here (you can remove it and archive it after reading) to ask about whether you think it is better or not. Here is it in 3 paragraphs now:

Political practice and rhetoric

{{Main|False or misleading statements by Donald Trump|List of conspiracy theories promoted by Donald Trump}}

{{Further|Trumpism|Political positions of Donald Trump|Rhetoric of Donald Trump|Social media use by Donald Trump}}

{{See also|First presidency of Donald Trump#Relationship with the news media|Personal and business legal affairs of Donald Trump}}

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Beginning with his 2016 campaign, Trump's politics and rhetoric led to the creation of a political movement known as Trumpism.{{cite news |last=O'Brien |first=Timothy L. |author-link=Timothy L. O'Brien |url=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-11-01/trumpism-has-deep-roots-in-american-history-and-it-will-outlast-trump |title=The Peculiarly American Roots of Trumpism |work=Bloomberg News |date=November 1, 2024 |access-date=November 26, 2024}} Trump's political positions are populist,{{sfn|Ross|2024|p=298|loc="In 2016, a populist won the presidential election in the United States."}}{{sfn|Urbinati|2019}} more specifically described as right-wing populist.{{sfn|Campani|Concepción|Soler|Savín|2022}}{{cite news |last=Chotiner |first=Isaac |url=https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/redefining-populism |title=Redefining Populism |magazine=The New Yorker |date=July 29, 2021 |access-date=October 14, 2021}} He helped bring far-right fringe ideas and organizations into the mainstream.{{cite news |last=Bierman |first=Noah |date=August 22, 2016 |title=Donald Trump helps bring far-right media's edgier elements into the mainstream |work=Los Angeles Times |url=https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-media-20160820-snap-story.html |access-date=October 7, 2021}} Many of Trump's actions and rhetoric have been described as authoritarian and contributing to democratic backsliding.{{sfn|Parker|Towler|2019|p=505; 513|loc="The rise of Donald Trump, however, forces scholars to apprehend why the country is trending toward authoritarianism, complete with a renegade executive and party loyalists willing to permit him to govern as he sees fit. Again, this is not the first time the United States has confronted authoritarianism. ... We must also say something about the much-discussed topic of authoritarianism and the election of Donald Trump. By now, several books, including How Democracies Die, have identified Trump as an authoritarian."}}{{sfn|Kaufman|Haggard|2019}} His political base has been compared to a cult of personality.{{efn|name=Cult|Attributed to multiple sources:{{sfn|Sundahl|2022|loc="[In] a model for distinguishing between popularity and personality cults based on three parameters covering a representational and social practice dimension... Trump and Putin belong in the domain of personality cults"}}{{sfn|Franks|Hesami|2021|loc="Results of the current study... may lend credence to accusations that some Trump supporters have a cult-like loyalty to the 45th president"}}{{sfn|Adams|2021|p=256}}{{sfn|Reyes|2020|p=869}}{{sfn|Diamond|2023|p=96|loc="The cult of Trumpism fosters and exploits paranoia and allegiance to an all-powerful, charismatic figure, contributing to a social milieu at risk for the erosion of democratic principles and the rise of fascism"}}{{sfn|Hassan|2019|p=xviii|loc="...Trump employs many of the same techniques as prominent cult leaders"}}{{Cite news |last=Ben-Ghiat |first=Ruth |author-link=Ruth Ben-Ghiat |date=December 19, 2020 |title=Op-Ed: Trump's formula for building a lasting personality cult |url=https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-12-09/donald-trump-strongman-personality-cult |access-date=October 4, 2023 |work=Los Angeles Times}}}} Trump's rhetoric and actions inflame anger and exacerbate distrust through an "us" versus "them" narrative.{{sfn|Ross|2024|p=299|loc="Through his rhetoric and action, Trump inflamed anger and exacerbated distrust in a way that deepened the divide between the "us" and the "them""}} Trump explicitly and routinely disparages racial, religious, and ethnic minorities,{{sfn|Stephens-Dougan|2021|p=302|loc="Trump, however, managed to achieve electoral success in 2016 despite routinely using racial appeals that openly and categorically disparaged racial, religious, and ethnic minorities, or what the racial priming literature refers to as explicit racial appeals. ... Throughout his campaign and subsequent presidency, Trump continued to traffic in similar explicit racial appeals"}} and scholars consistently find that racial animus regarding blacks, immigrants, and Muslims are the best predictors of support for Trump.{{sfn|Berman|2021|p=76|loc="In the United, States scholars consistently find that "racial animus," or attitudes regarding "blacks, immigrants, Muslims" are the best predictors of support for President Trump"}} Trump's rhetoric has been described as using fearmongering and demagogy.{{Cite news |last=Haberman |first=Maggie |author-link=Maggie Haberman |date=September 11, 2024 |title='The End of Our Country': Trump Paints Dark Picture at Debate |work=The New York Times |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/11/us/politics/trump-debate-dark-picture.html |access-date=September 25, 2024 |quote=Fear-mongering, and demagoguing on the issue of immigrants, has been Mr. Trump's preferred speed since he announced his first candidacy for the presidency in June 2015, and he has often found a receptive audience for it.}}{{Cite book |last=Mercieca |first=Jennifer R. |author-link=Jennifer Mercieca |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=mwy2ywEACAAJ |title=Demagogue for President: The Rhetorical Genius of Donald Trump |date=2020 |publisher=Texas A&M University Press |isbn=978-1-62349-906-8}} The alt-right movement coalesced around and supported his candidacy, due in part to its opposition to multiculturalism and immigration.{{cite news |last=Weigel |first=David |author-link=David Weigel |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/racial-realists-are-cheered-by-trumps-latest-strategy/2016/08/20/cd71e858-6636-11e6-96c0-37533479f3f5_story.html |title='Racialists' are cheered by Trump's latest strategy |newspaper=The Washington Post |date=August 20, 2016 |access-date=June 23, 2018}}{{cite news |url=https://cnn.com/2016/08/25/politics/alt-right-explained-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/ |title=Clinton is attacking the 'Alt-Right' – What is it? |first=Gregory |last=Krieg |access-date=August 25, 2016 |date=August 25, 2016 |work=CNN}}{{cite news |last=Pierce |first=Matt |title=Q&A: What is President Trump's relationship with far-right and white supremacist groups? |url=https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-09-30/la-na-pol-2020-trump-white-supremacy |work=Los Angeles Times |date=September 20, 2020 |access-date=October 7, 2021}} He has a strong appeal to evangelical Christian voters and Christian nationalists,{{sfn|Perry|Whitehead|Grubbs|2021|p=229}} and his rallies take on the symbols, rhetoric and agenda of Christian nationalism.{{Cite news |last=Peter |first=Smith |date=May 18, 2024 |title=Jesus is their savior, Trump is their candidate. Ex-president's backers say he shares faith, values |url=https://apnews.com/article/trump-christian-evangelicals-conservatives-2024-election-43f25118c133170c77786daf316821c3 |access-date=November 23, 2024 |work=AP News}}

Many of Trump's comments and actions have been described as racist.Multiple sources:

• {{cite web |last=Lopez |first=German |date=February 14, 2019 |title=Donald Trump's long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2019 |url=https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history |access-date=June 15, 2019 |work=Vox}}
• {{cite news |last=Desjardins |first=Lisa |date=January 12, 2018 |title=Every moment in Trump's charged relationship with race |url=https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/every-moment-donald-trumps-long-complicated-history-race |access-date=January 13, 2018 |work=PBS NewsHour}}
• {{cite news |last=Dawsey |first=Josh |author-link=Josh Dawsey |date=January 11, 2018 |title=Trump's history of making offensive comments about nonwhite immigrants |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-attacks-protections-for-immigrants-from-shithole-countries-in-oval-office-meeting/2018/01/11/bfc0725c-f711-11e7-91af-31ac729add94_story.html |access-date=January 11, 2018 |newspaper=The Washington Post}}
• {{cite news |last=Weaver |first=Aubree Eliza |date=January 12, 2018 |title=Trump's 'shithole' comment denounced across the globe |url=https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/12/trump-shithole-comment-reaction-337926 |access-date=January 13, 2018 |work=Politico |ref={{harvid|Weaver|2018b}}}}
• {{cite news |last1=Stoddard |first1=Ed |last2=Mfula |first2=Chris |date=January 12, 2018 |title=Africa calls Trump racist after 'shithole' remark |url=https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-reaction/africa-calls-trump-racist-after-shithole-remark-idUSKBN1F11VC |access-date=October 1, 2019 |work=Reuters}} Trump has been identified as a key figure in increasing political violence in America, both for and against him.{{Cite news |last=Baker |first=Peter |author-link=Peter Baker (journalist) |date=September 16, 2024 |title=Trump, Outrage and the Modern Era of Political Violence |work=The New York Times |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/16/us/politics/trump-violence-assassination-attempt.html |access-date=January 20, 2025 |quote=At the heart of today's eruption of political violence is Mr. Trump, a figure who seems to inspire people to make threats or take actions both for him and against him. He has long favored the language of violence in his political discourse, encouraging supporters to beat up hecklers, threatening to shoot looters and undocumented migrants, mocking a near-fatal attack on the husband of the Democratic House speaker and suggesting that a general he deemed disloyal be executed.}}{{sfn|Nacos|Shapiro|Bloch-Elkon|2020}}{{sfn|Piazza|Van Doren|2022}} Before and throughout his presidency, Trump promoted numerous conspiracy theories, including Obama birtherism, the Clinton body count conspiracy theory, the conspiracy theory movement QAnon, the Global warming hoax theory, Trump Tower wiretapping allegations, that Osama bin Laden was alive and Obama and Biden had members of Navy SEAL Team 6 killed, and alleged Ukrainian interference in U.S. elections.{{cite web |last1=Fichera |first1=Angelo |last2=Spencer |first2=Saranac Hale |date=October 20, 2020 |title=Trump's Long History With Conspiracy Theories |url=https://www.factcheck.org/2020/10/trumps-long-history-with-conspiracy-theories/ |access-date=September 15, 2021 |work=FactCheck.org}}{{cite web |last1=Subramaniam |first1=Tara |last2=Lybrand |first2=Holmes |date=October 15, 2020 |title=Fact-checking the dangerous bin Laden conspiracy theory that Trump touted |url=https://cnn.com/2020/10/15/politics/donald-trump-osama-bin-laden-conspiracy-theory-fact-check/ |access-date=October 11, 2021 |work=CNN}}{{cite web |last=Haberman |first=Maggie |author-link=Maggie Haberman |date=February 29, 2016 |title=Even as He Rises, Donald Trump Entertains Conspiracy Theories |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/01/us/politics/donald-trump-conspiracy-theories.html |access-date=October 11, 2021 |work=The New York Times}}{{cite news |last=Bump |first=Philip |date=November 26, 2019 |title=President Trump loves conspiracy theories. Has he ever been right? |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/11/26/president-trump-loves-conspiracy-theories-has-he-ever-been-right/ |access-date=October 11, 2021 |newspaper=The Washington Post}}{{cite web |last=Reston |first=Maeve |date=July 2, 2020 |title=The Conspiracy-Theorist-in-Chief clears the way for fringe candidates to become mainstream |url=https://cnn.com/2020/07/02/politics/trump-conspiracy-theorists-qanon/ |access-date=October 11, 2021 |work=CNN}}As a candidate and as president, Trump frequently makes false statements in public remarks{{cite news |last=Finnegan |first=Michael |date=September 25, 2016 |title=Scope of Trump's falsehoods unprecedented for a modern presidential candidate |url=https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-false-statements-20160925-snap-story.html |access-date=October 10, 2021 |work=Los Angeles Times}} to an extent unprecedented in American politics.{{cite web |last=Glasser |first=Susan B. |author-link=Susan Glasser |date=August 3, 2018 |title=It's True: Trump Is Lying More, and He's Doing It on Purpose |url=https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-trumps-washington/trumps-escalating-war-on-the-truth-is-on-purpose |access-date=January 10, 2019 |magazine=The New Yorker}}{{cite web |last=Konnikova |first=Maria |author-link=Maria Konnikova |date=January 20, 2017 |title=Trump's Lies vs. Your Brain |url=https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/donald-trump-lies-liar-effect-brain-214658 |access-date=March 31, 2018 |work=Politico Magazine}} Trump's social media presence attracted worldwide attention after he joined Twitter in 2009. He tweeted frequently during his 2016 campaign and as president until Twitter banned him after the January 6 attack.{{cite web |last1=Conger |first1=Kate |last2=Isaac |first2=Mike |date=January 16, 2021 |title=Inside Twitter's Decision to Cut Off Trump |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/16/technology/twitter-donald-trump-jack-dorsey.html |access-date=October 10, 2021 |work=The New York Times}} In June 2017, the White House press secretary said that Trump's tweets were official presidential statements.{{cite web |last=Landers |first=Elizabeth |date=June 6, 2017 |title=White House: Trump's tweets are 'official statements' |url=https://cnn.com/2017/06/06/politics/trump-tweets-official-statements/ |access-date=October 10, 2021 |work=CNN}} After years of criticism for allowing Trump to post misinformation and falsehoods, Twitter began to tag some of his tweets with fact-checks in May 2020.{{cite news |last=Dwoskin |first=Elizabeth |date=May 27, 2020 |title=Twitter labels Trump's tweets with a fact check for the first time |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/05/26/trump-twitter-label-fact-check/ |access-date=July 7, 2020 |newspaper=The Washington Post}} In response, he tweeted that social media platforms "totally silence" conservatives and that he would "strongly regulate, or close them down".{{cite news |last=Dwoskin |first=Elizabeth |date=May 27, 2020 |title=Trump lashes out at social media companies after Twitter labels tweets with fact checks |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/05/27/trump-twitter-label/ |access-date=May 28, 2020 |newspaper=The Washington Post}} In the days after the storming of the Capitol, he was banned from Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and other platforms.{{cite web |last1=Fischer |first1=Sara |last2=Gold |first2=Ashley |date=January 11, 2021 |title=All the platforms that have banned or restricted Trump so far |url=https://www.axios.com/platforms-social-media-ban-restrict-trump-d9e44f3c-8366-4ba9-a8a1-7f3114f920f1.html |access-date=January 16, 2021 |work=Axios}} The loss of his social media presence diminished his ability to shape events{{cite news |last=Timberg |first=Craig |date=January 14, 2021 |title=Twitter ban reveals that tech companies held keys to Trump's power all along |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/14/trump-twitter-megaphone/ |access-date=February 17, 2021 |newspaper=The Washington Post}}{{cite web |last1=Alba |first1=Davey |last2=Koeze |first2=Ella |last3=Silver |first3=Jacob |date=June 7, 2021 |title=What Happened When Trump Was Banned on Social Media |url=https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/06/07/technology/trump-social-media-ban.html |access-date=December 21, 2023 |work=The New York Times}} and prompted a dramatic decrease in the volume of misinformation shared on Twitter.{{cite news |last1=Dwoskin |first1=Elizabeth |last2=Timberg |first2=Craig |date=January 16, 2021 |title=Misinformation dropped dramatically the week after Twitter banned Trump and some allies |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/16/misinformation-trump-twitter/ |access-date=February 17, 2021 |newspaper=The Washington Post}}

Trump sought media attention throughout his career, sustaining a "love-hate" relationship with the press.{{cite web |last=Parnes |first=Amie |date=April 28, 2018 |title=Trump's love-hate relationship with the press |url=https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/385245-trumps-love-hate-relationship-with-the-press |access-date=July 4, 2018 |work=The Hill}} In the 2016 campaign, he benefited from a record amount of free media coverage.{{cite news |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/14/this-harvard-study-is-a-powerful-indictment-of-the-medias-role-in-donald-trumps-rise/ |title=This Harvard study is a powerful indictment of the media's role in Donald Trump's rise |first=Chris |last=Cillizza |author-link=Chris Cillizza |date=June 14, 2016 |access-date=October 1, 2021 |newspaper=The Washington Post}}The first Trump presidency reduced formal press briefings from about a hundred in 2017 to about half that in 2018 and to two in 2019; they also revoked the press passes of two White House reporters, which were restored by the courts.{{cite web |last=Grynbaum |first=Michael M. |date=December 30, 2019 |title=After Another Year of Trump Attacks, 'Ominous Signs' for the American Press |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/30/business/media/trump-media-2019.html |access-date=October 11, 2021 |work=The New York Times}} Trump's 2020 presidential campaign sued The New York Times, The Washington Post, and CNN for defamation in opinion pieces about Trump's stance on Russian election interference. All the suits were dismissed. The Atlantic characterized the suits as an intimidation tactic.{{cite news |url=https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/03/donald-trump-lawsuit-new-york-times-mary-trump |title=US judge throws out Donald Trump's lawsuit against New York Times |date=May 3, 2023 |access-date=November 25, 2024 |work=The Guardian}}{{cite web |last1=Geltzer |first1=Joshua A. |last2=Katyal |first2=Neal K. |date=March 11, 2020 |title=The True Danger of the Trump Campaign's Defamation Lawsuits |url=https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/true-danger-trump-campaigns-libel-lawsuits/607753/ |access-date=October 1, 2020 |work=The Atlantic}} By 2024, he repeatedly voiced support for outlawing political dissent and criticism,{{Cite news |last=Kapur |first=Sahil |date=October 13, 2024 |title='Totally illegal': Trump escalates rhetoric on outlawing political dissent and criticism |url=https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/totally-illegal-trump-escalates-rhetoric-outlawing-political-dissent-c-rcna174280 |access-date=November 23, 2024 |work=NBC News}} and said that reporters should be prosecuted for not divulging confidential sources and media companies should possibly lose their broadcast licenses for unfavorable coverage of him.{{Cite news |last=Folkenflik |first=David |date=October 21, 2024 |title=Could Trump's threats against news outlets carry weight if he wins the presidency? |url=https://www.npr.org/2024/10/21/nx-s1-5150039/could-trumps-threats-against-news-outlets-carry-weight-if-he-wins-the-presidency |access-date=November 23, 2024 |work=NPR News}} In 2024, Trump sued ABC News for defamation after George Stephanopoulos said on-air that a jury had found him civilly liable for raping E. Jean Carroll. The case was settled in December with ABC's parent company, Walt Disney, apologizing for the inaccurate claims about Trump and agreeing to donate $15 million to Trump's future presidential library.{{cite news |last=Barnes |first=Brooks |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/18/business/media/disney-trump-abc-lawsuit.html |title=Inside Disney's Decision to Settle a Trump Defamation Suit |work=The New York Times |date=December 18, 2024 |access-date=January 12, 2025}}{{cite news |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/media/2024/12/14/abc-news-trump-defamation-lawsuit-stephanopoulos/ |title=ABC News to pay $15 million in Trump defamation suit settlement |newspaper=The Washington Post |date=14 December 2024}}{{cite news |url=https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5040801-abc-settles-trumps-defamation-suit-for-15m/ |title=ABC settles Trump's defamation suit for $15M |work=The Hill |date=14 December 2024}}

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Hi Rolling, how are you? I was lurking through some FACs and I wonder if you could provide some comments for my current FAC, on the Taylor Swift song Forever & Always? I don't want it to get archived... thanks so much in advance! Ippantekina (talk) 02:28, 5 March 2025 (UTC)

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