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File:Information orange.svg Hello, Sudsahab, welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your contributions. Your editing pattern indicates that you may be using multiple accounts or coordinating editing with people outside Wikipedia, such as {{User|Umarrizwan.ansari}}. Our policy on multiple accounts usually does not allow this, and users who misuse multiple accounts may be blocked from editing. If you operate multiple accounts directly or with the help of another person, please disclose these connections. Thank you. RegentsPark (comment) 18:54, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

:Umarrizwan.ansari is my previous acc which got lost. Now i only use this sudsahab acc. i will contribute my best to wikipedia.Please dont block me Sudsahab (talk) 07:34, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

::Don't worry. As long as you don't edit from multiple accounts, and since you've declared the old account, you're good. RegentsPark (comment) 16:49, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

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File:Information orange.svg Please do not add or change content, as you did at :Battle of Kunjpura, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. HistoryofIran (talk) 15:39, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

:Thanks Sudsahab (talk) 15:45, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

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:I'd like to expand on this by saying that asking for your edit to not be removed - in the edit itself - is not helpful. Synorem (talk) 06:10, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

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Hi, please see WP:RS and WP:SPS. HistoryofIran (talk) 00:04, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

:Thanks,But u r removing reliable sources unneccssary

:Rise and Fall of The Maratha Empire 1750-1818

:[https://www.google.com/search?sa=X&sca_esv=593683393&rlz=1C1ONGR_enIN1060IN1060&tbm=bks&sxsrf=AM9HkKkED3a5rrx3lq_VYCcfWYzYD6KIbg:1703567077385&tbm=bks&q=inauthor:%22Sanish+Nandakumar%22&ved=2ahUKEwjWmv7zqayDAxVaZ_UHHRzxAuoQ9Ah6BAgMEAU&biw=1304&bih=691&dpr=1 Sanish Nandakumar] ·

:is known historian of India. Sudsahab (talk) 05:06, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

::He's a "known historian of India", yet has only published one book, and isn't even a historian? [https://notionpress.com/author/sanish_nandakumar]. HistoryofIran (talk) 13:38, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi! I appreciate your efforts to add articles about sieges, such as Siege of Etawah (1770). However, please note (especially when titling articles) that the word is spelled "siege", not "seige". I usually don't come to people's talk pages about typos, but since these typos have been made in article titles, I figured it was important to let you know. Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 14:32, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

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File:Information.svg Hi Sudsahab! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor that may not have been. "Minor edit" has a very specific definition on Wikipedia—it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Please see Help:Minor edit for more information. Thank you. — Manticore 07:03, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

@Sudsahab, don't remove the unsigned template from your comment. Its non constructive to add a link to your userpage instead of a signature.Imperial^[AFCND] 11:11, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:Hey, are you Manik from instagram? And were .Manik69, ManikSharma8969 and Umarrizwan.ansari your previous accounts got lost? Imperial^[AFCND] 16:14, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

::No, i am not manik and im not doing any socket puppetry so pls stop annoying me period Sudsahab (talk) 16:16, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:::Sorry about that I thought you were manik from Instagram. Imperial^[AFCND] 16:19, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

@Sudsahab, have you ever shared your articles in any of the platforms other than Wikipedia?Imperial^[AFCND] 16:23, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:This is getting to look like fishing, please stop. Slatersteven (talk) 16:25, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

::For a reason. How can we allow meatpuppetry? I have seen multiple newly created accounts editing in support of Sudsahab even in draft articles. I thought it was a coincidence but happened multiple times. I can provide the evidences for multiple incidents if you wish. Of this account and his early account named @Umarrizwan.ansari. Following the instagram lead I got from a user, I came to understand that there is a vast group acting behind all these. @HistoryofIran made his effort and banned multiple accounts by proving this. So please be aware of the situation. Imperial^[AFCND] 16:32, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:::It is allowed to remove unsigned templates, they don't do anything anyways. While I agree there is something fishy ongoing, interrogating users is not the way. If there are concerns (and at least somewhat definitive proof), they should be taken WP:ANI, WP:SPI or some other place. HistoryofIran (talk) 16:37, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

::::Will do it. Thanks. Imperial^[AFCND] 16:43, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

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Hy fellow mate 👋. Can you create a further campaign of Krishnadevraya on his conquest of Orrisa against Gajapati Kingdom Mahratta.op (talk) 11:27, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

:Okay Sudsahab (talk) 11:36, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

:Sorry,i cant Sudsahab (talk) 11:41, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

:@Spinster300, hello. Please consider double checking before moving a WP:MILHIST related articles. One of the articles you recently accepted through AFC, doesn't pass WP:GNG, nor any WP:RS calls it by the name "Battle of Bahraich". I've initiated an AFD, and always check whether if any historian, or any WP:RS calls any military conflicts as "Battle of X", "Siege of X" or "X-Y War". Thanks. Imperial^[AFCND] 13:45, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

::Dear ImperialAficionado, thank you so much for this notice. I decided to participate in WP:MILHIST articles today after many years. It looks like it is time for me to brush up before I continue. Kind regards, Spinster300 (talk) 16:37, 14 March 2024 (UTC).

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Remove the Fictional flags u Added in the Articles of Battle of Pratapgarh, etc DeepstoneV (talk) 10:43, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

:Actually, its seems more like a personal attack onto me. If you have problem with the so called 'Fictional map' please contact the file uploader. Sudsahab (talk) 11:04, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

::I am afraid that you may not know what WP:PA means. I strongly suggest you to remove that flags with no sourcing. Let me know from where you got such a depiction of flag, and what is the source for that. As long as I can't view any kind of source attached to it in commons. DeepstoneV (talk) 11:43, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

:::I know what WP:PA means, and if u want to remove that flag so go on and remove it. I found the flag on Google so I posted it and half of the flags are own work and unsourced. Thanku Sudsahab (talk) 14:39, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Hey Sudsahab I'm very keen to expand Shivaji's Southern Campaign as it needs a little bit of cohesion, copy editing and more content, you can help. WhiteReaperPM (talk) 05:34, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

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{{Sorry}} Take care. Imperial^[AFCND] 18:36, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

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:Huh, this was indeed an amateurish move, Instead of discussing with me on the article's talk page you chose to put this template. Sudsahab (talk) 10:37, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

::3rr is always a rule. I can clearly see it has been three times that the result section has been changed recently. Added this to avoid further edit warring. Imperial^[AFCND] 10:38, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

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:Maybe reverting disruptive edits of other users is harsh than this [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Age_Matters] {{Tq|just keep your keyboard shut for sometime.}} Sudsahab (talk) 06:26, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

How is "A History of Jaipur" not reliable? I have already discussed that it doesn't come under WP:RAJ as it was completed after the death of Sarkar. Ranadhira (talk) 08:08, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

:Look the thing is the author Jadunath Sarkar is himself controversial (as we know he was a British knighted historian) so his works are untenable to be used in Wikipedia articles. You can ask/research more about this topic at RSN. Sudsahab (talk) 14:28, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

I reverted your edit on the Vijayanagara Empire article because you didn't check the talk page and didn't understand the context before disrupting. Please familiarize yourself with the background before making edits. DeepstoneV (talk) 15:32, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

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:🤝 Sudsahab (talk) 10:59, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

File:Stop hand nuvola.svg Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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{{unblock reviewed |1=This must be an error cause [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Sudsahab#December_2023] I had already disclosed my lost account. What I failed to acknowledge is my first Wikipedia account Krishna57edits which was banned for 2 weeks [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Krishna57edits#Blocked] I shouldn't had evaded that block. Other than this I have no connection to any of the accounts that was suspected here [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Thewikiuser1999/Archive] I have acknowledged my both accounts (one which was lost and the one which was banned for 2 weeks) therefore I am expressing my sincere remorse and regret for my involvement in sockpuppetry on Wikipedia. I acknowledge that my actions have violated Wikipedia's policies and undermined the integrity of the platform. I take full responsibility for my behavior and understand the serious consequences of engaging in such deceptive practices. :I assure you that I am committed to rectifying my mistakes and making amends for the damage I have caused. I pledge to adhere strictly to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines moving forward and to contribute constructively and transparently to the community. I have contributed to Wikipedia by creating many Wikipedia pages that are notable and participated in fruitful discussion to build a consensus so please give me a last chance to repent and change myself. I apologize once again for my misconduct and assure you that I am fully committed to earning back the trust and respect of the Wikipedia community through my future conduct.Sudsahab (talk) 17:46, 28 April 2024 (UTC) |decline = Per long discussion below. — Daniel Case (talk) 06:24, 10 May 2024 (UTC)}} Sudsahab (talk) 17:46, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

::That's weird: your Krishna account logged in on April 9, one minute before you logged in with this account. Also, your edits are remarkably similar to those of Thewikiuser1999. Drmies (talk) 17:52, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

:::Yes, It was done when I was logging into my Sudsahab account on my phone in which the Krishna account was already logged in, I already acknowledged that the Krishna account was my first Wikipedia account. No, we are not same Thewikiuser1999 is heavily oriented around editing a certain cast (Brahmins) whereas I haven't done any of the caste supremacist edits. Please understand that we are not the same and I swear that I don't bag more than two or three devices so you can verify it with a checkuser. Please consider unblocking me, I seek a Block exception per Last chance. Sudsahab (talk) 18:15, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

::::Meatpuppetry with a sock ie, User:Shakib ul hassan is clear from the edit history of [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Siege_of_Sirhind_1758&action=history Siege of Sirhind 1758], and the contributions of that user makes it clear that the socks of that user have engaged in meatpuppetry with Thewikiuser1999, Indo12122,...(long list of Indian history POV pushing sockmasters). Imperial^[AFCND] 08:44, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

:::::Again these random users have no connection with me, I'd have already confirmed if these accounts were my socks, they may spy on me and contribute their work in my started articles. Sudsahab (talk) 10:59, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

::::::I have enough evidence to make an ANI report, and I'm ready to share it if needed. For example, I've noticed the changes he made to your sandbox[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Siege_of_Sirhind_1758&diff=prev&oldid=1189365997] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Siege_of_Sirhind_1758&diff=prev&oldid=1189365913][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Siege_of_Sirhind_1758&diff=prev&oldid=1189365772], and the additions are made without any apparent plan (how does he know that you are about to create that article, with the same context he added?). It's almost as if User:Shakib ul hassan can predict your future actions and adds relevant context accordingly. What's also worrying is that this same user moved your sandbox to mainspace [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Siege_of_Sirhind_1758&diff=prev&oldid=1189389598]. There have even been instances where an IP user did the same thing, although it might take some time to find the exact diff. So, it's not accurate to brush off these actions as just the work of "random users", especially since all these accounts were created around the same time, surprisingly with Arabic names. Imperial^[AFCND] 11:24, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

:::::::Just because Shakib ul hassan is fixing some of those disambiguation links and spelling errors, leads you to the conclusion that he can be my sock? Here [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Siege_of_Sirhind_1758&diff=prev&oldid=1189365140&title=Siege_of_Sirhind_1758&diffonly=1][https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Siege_of_Sirhind_1758&diff=prev&oldid=1189365772&title=Siege_of_Sirhind_1758&diffonly=1][https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Siege_of_Sirhind_1758&diff=prev&oldid=1189365913&title=Siege_of_Sirhind_1758&diffonly=1][https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Siege_of_Sirhind_1758&diff=prev&oldid=1189365997&title=Siege_of_Sirhind_1758&diffonly=1] I don't see any odd. He added nothing but fixing links. Had he "predicted my future" he would have added more information/contents related to this article. He didn't predict anything the edit differences I showed just proved it and If you don't mind I want an admin to review my unblock request. Sudsahab (talk) 14:37, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

::::::::@Drmies please review my utmost unblock request Sudsahab (talk) 14:38, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

:::::::::Well you had not disclosed Krishna, not on this talk page. Let's see. You created Sudsahab on 7 October 2023, after User:Krishna57edits was blocked by {{U|Bishonen}} for edit warring, but didn't actually edit with that account. You created User:Umarrizwan.ansari on 10 December 2023, and started editing with that, until 19 December, and then you started editing with this account, and User:RegentsPark called you on it. (And along the way you log in with your Krishna account, and then a minute later with this account--I suppose the positive reading of that is that you realized that you shouldn't be using the Krishna account.){{pb}}All the while you are racking up warnings on these accounts for disruption of various kinds--spelling errors, citation/sourcing problems, edit warring, creation of poor stubs. Tell you what, I am going to take the positive reading here, and I will change the CU block to a regular indefinite block for all the disruption documented so well on two different talk pages, Krishna's and this one; I will ask RegentsPark and Bishonen if they could have a look at this block and your unblock request. Drmies (talk) 15:45, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

:::::::::User:ImperialAficionado, I just blocked User talk:गांधार नरेश as a CU-confirmed sock of User:Shakib ul hassan. Drmies (talk) 15:45, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

::::::::::Thanks Drmies! Imperial^[AFCND] 16:34, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

{{od}}Oh god this is very confusing. There are three things I have trouble with, Drmies, all of them concerning Krishna57edits.

• 1. Why would {{u|Bbb23}} tag that account as both CU-blocked and as "suspected", in one and the same edit?
• 2. Also, in the block log, you, Drmies, block Krishna57edits with a reference to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Thewikiuser1999/Archive. However, that SPI does not list Krishna57edits as a sockpuppet. "Closing as the requested evidence for Krishna57edits hasn't been provided." But you're of course a CU, Drmies. Have you now checked Krishna57edits? Or what is the evidence they're a sock of Thewikiuser1999? Or did you block them because they're a sockmaster (with the socks Umarrizwan.ansari and Sudsahab)?
• 3. And furthermore, why does Sudsahab (who acknowledges that Krishna57edits is their account) say, of my two-week block of Krishna57edits, that "I shouldn't had evaded that block"? Neither of the known socks Umarrizwan.ansari and Sudsahab did evade that block, so what is this? An indication that there's yet another, never named, sock (at least one)? Bishonen | tålk 17:03, 29 April 2024 (UTC).
• {{re|Bishonen}} I can't answer your last question, but the double-tagging is not unusual and is explained at the SPI. The template says precisely what it's supposed to say, that Krishna57 and Sudsahab are confirmed to each other and a suspected sock (no CU evidence) of the master.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:28, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
• {{U|Bishonen}}, Sudsahab is often quite unclear--whether that's deception or, eh, competence is also not clear. Krishna and Sudsahab are confirmed with each other; I linked the SPI because that's how it started, really. Umarrizwan.ansari is now blocked because Sudsahab copped to it in an earlier comment here, which I hadn't seen; their data is stale. There is no technical evidence linking this account to that wikiuser account. {{pb}}I asked you to have a look (and/or RegentsPark) because I cannot judge if it's worth giving them another shot on their own merits, setting aside the socking issue, which as far as I'm concerned isn't irrelevant but also is not the most important thing. They seem to not have overlapped in a disruptive way, if I remember correctly. Is this editor, on the merits of their edits, a net positive? Thanks, and sorry for the confusion--I'm glad I'm not the only one who was a bit confused! Drmies (talk) 17:50, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
• The account Krishna57edits edited very cluelessly and also tendentiously. See for instance my comment here at the time of my block in October 2023. As Sudsahab, possibly they improved a little. But look at all the alerts above about deletion of their articles and non-acceptance of their drafts. Indeed, of the 14 articles they have created, 12 have been deleted.[https://xtools.wmcloud.org/pages/en.wikipedia.org/Sudsahab/all] Not an impressive record. But I don't feel I'm the best admin to judge their editing in general. It would be great if RegentsPark, who knows more about Sudsahab's subjects, offered a firmer opinion. However, he is travelling, and it's been a week since he last edited. Dare I ping {{ping|Abecedare}}? Hmmm... well, I boldly did. Bishonen | tålk 20:19, 29 April 2024 (UTC).
• @Bishonen, I apologize for the interruption. While acknowledging that my initial edits were hastily executed and lacked precision, I have since undergone a learning process and improved a lot. It is worth noting that subsequent to my block, most of the articles were redirected and deleted by an administrator [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AirshipJungleman29/CSD_log#April_2024] per WP:BANREVERT. Seeing this is disheartening, can't do anything but abide by the rules. Sudsahab (talk) 08:43, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
• Not sure why you link to AirshipJungleman29's long CSD log, Sudsahab. What's that supposed to show? If you're implying that your articles were deleted merely for being created by a blocked user, I don't think so. The alerts above on this page say otherwise; the articles were generally deleted for poor or non-existent sourcing. Bishonen | tålk 09:36, 30 April 2024 (UTC).
• PS to {{u|Drmies}}: sorry, I now realize Abecedare also hasn't edited for weeks. :-( Bishonen | tålk 09:39, 30 April 2024 (UTC).
• Bishonen, I see now why they linked to User:AirshipJungleman29's log--they tagged the articles as creations by a sock of that Thewikiuser, but that's not what my block was about. I suppose they could have been tagged as G5 because created by Krishna, but given the account given above that wouldn't be exactly fair either. I am going to restore those; Airship, if you read over this you'll see that it's a bit more complicated, and I never confirmed this editor as a sock of Thewikiuser. Bish, maybe that changes the perspective a bit. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:35, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
• No worries, {{u|Drmies}}; I was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Northern_Campaign_of_Raghunath_Rao&diff=prev&oldid=1221226213 writing a response] to Sudsahab when you blocked them, saw [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sudsahab&diff=prev&oldid=1221225037 your block notification], and assumed G5 was needed. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:36, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

{{od}}No I don't claim that my articles were merely deleted because of WP:G5 but please understand that only 3 out of 14 articles (Siege of Etawa, Battle of Chandighat and Battle of Bahraich) of my Sudsahab account were deleted before my ban and from my Umarrizwan.ansari account I have zero track record of any deletion. I'd say that I have contributed more than disrupting Wikipedia. Sudsahab (talk) 10:49, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

• Like [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Maratha%E2%80%93Patiala_clashes&diff=prev&oldid=1221176749&title=Maratha%E2%80%93Patiala_clashes&diffonly=1][https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Jai_Singh%27s_attack_on_Bijapur#Mughal_Banner?][https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Siege_of_Rhodes_(1522)&diff=prev&oldid=1219921872&title=Siege_of_Rhodes_%281522%29&diffonly=1][https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Siege_of_Panhala_(1660)&diff=prev&oldid=1218013615&title=Siege_of_Panhala_%281660%29&diffonly=1] Not only I participated in fruitful discussion but also removed non RS sources (and there are dozens of such edits), I know I have my own drawbacks and we can't be an Ideal Wikipedia editor but I'd try to be in vicinity of an Ideal editor. Sudsahab (talk) 10:52, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
• :@Bishonen,@Drmies Pardon me for mentioning repeatedly. If my unblock review will take its time (which is fine). Can I prove myself by productively contributing on other WMF projects? Sudsahab (talk) 16:25, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
• ::Yes. Bishonen | tålk 20:53, 1 May 2024 (UTC).
• :::Alright thanks Sudsahab (talk) 08:59, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
• I started reviewing Sudsahab's edits and immediately found a few problems. In [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Northern_Campaign_of_Raghunath_Rao&diff=prev&oldid=1221172253 this edit], for example, Sudsahab references [https://books.google.com/books?id=FIIQhuAOGaIC&pg=PA55#v=onepage&q=Ahmad%20Samad%20Khan&f=false this book] but I don't see any of this material in the linked book (perhaps I'm missing something). Sudsahab also references www.esamskriti.com which is nowhere near a WP:RS and the other sources (Pletcher, Beck) are generalists rather than historians of India. I also see that they cite a raj era source in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Ali_Masjid_(1839)&diff=prev&oldid=1221177585 this edit], despite being [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Battle_of_Pangal&diff=prev&oldid=1219940405 aware] that that's not kosher. At this point, I'm not convinced that they're a net positive for the encyclopedia. However, perhaps if they are willing to adhere to a topic ban on South Asian history, ...? RegentsPark (comment) 20:10, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
• :OTOH, there's also [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Northern_Campaign_of_Raghunath_Rao&diff=prev&oldid=1222841624 this]. Sock? RegentsPark (comment) 20:55, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
• ::@RegentsPark In the [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Northern_Campaign_of_Raghunath_Rao&diff=prev&oldid=1221172253&title=Northern_Campaign_of_Raghunath_Rao&diffonly=1 first edit] this [https://books.google.co.in/books?id=FIIQhuAOGaIC&pg=PA55&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=Ahmad%20Samad%20Khan&f=false book] can be previewed in my region (I think that is what you asked) and for the rest of the sources I'd definitely take it into my deepest consideration because I reverted those non RS sources. In the [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Ali_Masjid_(1839)&diff=prev&oldid=1221177585&title=Battle_of_Ali_Masjid_%281839%29&diffonly=1 second edit] too I could have removed the RAJ source instead of re-using it, however that doesn't mean I'm not net positive for Wikipedia.
• ::I'd give more examples for contributing to Wikipedia:
• ::*I have successfully started 16 out of 19 articles (two of them got B ratings) from both of my accounts [https://xtools.wmcloud.org/pages/en.wikipedia.org/Sudsahab] [https://xtools.wmcloud.org/pages/en.wikipedia.org/Umarrizwan.ansari] and that is itself is the clear indication that I'm net positive, also I have did tons of edits on improving other Wikipedia articles (basically I reframed these articles) like Battle of Pratapgarh, Sack of Surat, Battle of Farrukhnagar, Battle of Raichur and Battle of Makwanpur (1763). I have my drawbacks which I accept and I can assure that I'll improve myself.
• ::For the sock part, see [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Drmies#Likely_IP_sock_of_User:Sudsahab_making_PoV_edits this] I don't have to say much as Dermies already said {{Tq|there's no technical evidence}}. See the behavioural evidence too, the IP user couldn't even properly pronounce my username in their [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Northern_Campaign_of_Raghunath_Rao&diff=prev&oldid=1222841624&title=Northern_Campaign_of_Raghunath_Rao&diffonly=1 user edit summary]. At last to @Drmies, please consider my unblock, it's been more than a week since I posted my unblock request and since then I have also contributed to Wikimedia: *File:Qarmatian Flag.png *File:Aravalli Hills near Gurgaon.jpg *File:Berar Sultanate Flag.png Sudsahab (talk) 09:17, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

• {{U|RegentsPark}}, maybe have a look at ANI, at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Jonharojjashi,_part_2. Drmies (talk) 13:18, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
• :Hmm. Interesting, a [https://cloud.google.com/learn/certification title] that speaks volumes. After reading the ANI thread, I'm leaning toward letting things stand as they are now.RegentsPark (comment) 21:12, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

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