Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ziad El Chaar

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Complete vanity spam about a non notable business person, being pushed by an obvious paid editor. Just a run of the mill executive. BUNNYDICAE🐇 18:46, 13 April 2025 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 18:52, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lebanon-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 18:52, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
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• Delete: The Blomberg article appears to be a non-primary source [https://archive.ph/9WW7X], rest are PR items or interviews. None of the sources in the article are RS. Oaktree b (talk) 20:51, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
• Keep: As the creator of the page, I did a lot of research to make sure he met the qualifications. Here are some of the articles that show notability:

:- [https://english.mubasher.info/news/3318536/Dar-Al-Arkan-s-Ziad-Al-Chaar-resigns-new-CEO-named/ Mubasher TV] Major UAE publication and operates from more than 10 Middle East countries.

:- [https://www.cbnme.com/power-hour-2024/26-ziad-el-chaar-ceo-dar-global/ Construction Business News, 2024]

:- [https://www.cbnme.com/power-60/19-ziad-el-chaar-dar-al-arkan/ Construction Business News, 2018]

:- [https://meconstructionnews.com/22915/ziad-el-chaar-resigns-as-md-of-dubais-damac-properties ME Construction News]

:- [https://gulfnews.com/business/property/damacs-ziad-el-chaar-resigns-as-md-1.2029143 Gulf News] - Major UAE publication. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_News Has a wiki page too].

:- [https://www.cbnme.com/power-hour-2023/power-hour-2023-ziad-el-chaar-ceo-darglobal/ Construction Business News, 2023]

:- [https://www.thenationalnews.com/business/property/damac-properties-managing-director-ziad-el-chaar-resigns-1.5781 The National] Major UAE publications, also [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_National_(Abu_Dhabi) has a wiki page].Originalflavors (talk) 03:49, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

::Have you ever read the requirements for sourcing? I'm asking out of curiosity, but I know the answer. BUNNYDICAE🐇 16:41, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

:::Yes of course I have, but surely you are aware of [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:ANYBIO&redirect=no WP:ANYBIO]? The subject has 6 awards, including Entrepreneur.com’s Top 10 Inspiring Business Persons to Watch in the Middle East (2023) and Arabian Business’ 100 Most Inspiring Leaders (2024). These make him qualify under WP:ANYBIO. And then there is also [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:BASIC&redirect=no WP:BASIC] which states "If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability." Originalflavors (talk) 17:42, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

::::Of course I'm aware of it, but I'm pretty sure you don't understand the nuance of the "significant" portion of any part of what that GUIDELINE says. Good luck with the rest of your spam though. BUNNYDICAE🐇 19:40, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

• Keep - based on assessment by @Originalflavors and also subject establishes notability based on WP:ANYBIO for having several known awards.Darkm777 (talk) 03:26, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Listicles are not enough to pass WP:ANYBIO. Gheus (talk) 02:05, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
• :I understand that Listless by themselves are not considered significant sources. However, that doesn't change the fact that he has won 6 awards and per WP:ANYBIO he would qualify "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times." 2 of the awaads are well known, which are by Entrepreneur.com and Arabian Business, since both are recognizable brands and have Wiki pages.
• :Note the [https://www.arabianbusiness.com/powerlists/revealed-arabian-business-100-most-inspiring-leaders-2024#100-most-inspiring-leaders-2024-profile-49 Arabian Business has 7 paragraphs of content written on him], so it is hardly a listicle. In addition, there is a stand alone article on him in [https://www.arabianbusiness.com/lists/2013-construction-week-power-100-507098-htmlitemid507045 Arabian Business here]. Also , here is [https://www.arabianbusiness.com/powerlists/dubai-100-2025#dr-kp-hussain one more Arabian Business coverage], with 6 paragraphs on him. Here he was ranked #38 on Dubai 100 most influential individuals.
• :I have also found additional coverage on him, that is not currently used. Please check these:
• :- [https://www.alarabiya.net/aswaq/companies/2017/06/04/%D8%AA%D8%B9%D8%B1%D9%81-%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%89-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B1%D8%A6%D9%8A%D8%B3-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AA%D9%86%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%B0%D9%8A-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%AF-%D9%84%D9%80-%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B1%D9%83%D8%A7%D9%86- Alarabiya Magazine]
• :- [https://www.arabianbusiness.com/middle-east/former-damac-md-appointed-ceo-of-major-saudi-developer-676640 4th Arabian Business article]
• :- [https://www.hoteliermiddleeast.com/lists/98408-ziad-el-chaar Hotelier]
• :- [https://www.constructionweekonline.com/lists/164914-ziad-el-chaar Construction Week 1st Article] and [https://www.constructionweekonline.com/lists/165996-ziad-el-chaar Construction Week 2nd article]
• :- [https://www.cbnme.com/news/ziad-el-chaar-joins-saudi-developer-dar-al-arkan/ Construction Business News]
• :- [https://gulfbusiness.com/saudis-largest-developer-dar-al-arkan-appoints-new-ceo/ Gulf Business]
• :Clearly based on so much coverage, he is notable and this should be a SPEEDY KEEP. Originalflavors (talk) 05:17, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

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• Delete: Straightforward delete. WP:NOTCV. Fails WP:NBIO. Charlie (talk) 17:00, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per Oaktree b, and because searches don't show any other independent reliable secondary sources with significant coverage. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:34, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
• Delete, subject appears to have engaged in significant self promotion which makes assessing the independence of many of the UAE publications used in the article hard... And I think we have to lean towards them not being independent. Without that element coloring much of the coverage I would say that this was a borderline case. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 17:09, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

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