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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:17, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Vietnam War resisters to :Category:American people of the Vietnam War

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge, this category doesn't help navigation with only one category in it Mason (talk) 23:03, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:24, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to :Category:Organic farming in Asia. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:20, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Natural farming to :Category:Organic farming

:Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category Mason (talk) 22:56, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support in principle but it can be more specifically merged to :Category:Organic farming in Asia. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:28, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:20, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:People from Indiana in the Mexican–American War to :Category:American people of the Mexican–American War

:* Propose merging :Category:People from Indiana in the Spanish–American War to :Category:American people of the Spanish–American War

:* Propose merging :Category:People from Indiana in the Vietnam War to :Category:American people of the Vietnam War

:Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between nationality, state, and war. No other state are diffused for these wars. Mason (talk) 20:58, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:48, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:21, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Assassinated book publishers (people) to :Category:Assassinated publishers (people)

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Not helpful for navigation to only have one page in here. Mason (talk) 20:56, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Upmerge for now per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:53, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: speedy delete. CSD G7 Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:32, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose splitting :Category:CIA personnel killed in the Vietnam War to :Category:CIA personnel of the Vietnam War and :Category:American military personnel killed in the Vietnam War

:Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between occupation, war, and cause of death Mason (talk) 20:22, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:21, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Child sexual abuse accusations against Michael Jackson}}

:Nominator's rationale: I don't think we really need this. There are only two articles currently in the category: Trial of Michael Jackson and Leaving Neverland. The former is already categorized properly and in particular belongs to :Category:Michael Jackson. The latter is in :Category:Works about the Michael Jackson sexual abuse allegations. If we keep the category, Category:Works about the Michael Jackson sexual abuse allegations should be a subcategory of Category:Child sexual abuse accusations against Michael Jackson so that would leave Trial of Michael Jackson as the sole member of the category with no prospect for further growth. Pichpich (talk) 20:06, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. No need to merge, both articles are already elsewhere in the tree of :Category:Michael Jackson. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:57, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:21, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Connecticut Adjutant Generals to :Category:Adjutants General of Connecticut

:Nominator's rationale: Fixing the plural (which is incorrect) and consistency with the other subcategories of :Category:Adjutants general of the National Guard of the United States StAnselm (talk) 19:44, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Rename per WP:C2C. This could have been listed at speedy. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:58, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
• Yes, you're right. Sorry. StAnselm (talk) 04:24, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:21, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Danish-language culture to :Category:Danish language

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category on has one category in it, which is unhelpful for navigation Mason (talk) 19:41, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:59, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:22, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lt|Ontario-bio-stub}}

:* Propose deleting {{lt|PrinceEdwardIsland-bio-stub}}

:* Propose deleting {{lt|Saskatchewan-bio-stub}}

:Nominator's rationale: Virtually unused stub templates (one with no transclusions at all, and two with just one use each) with no pressing need for them. These don't have their own dedicated provincial categories, and just sort people directly into the national {{cl|Canadian people stubs}} -- but this means that the only thing they're actually doing is producing unnecessary duplicate categorization, since the two articles that are actually using any of these templates both already have other "Canada occupation stub" templates and subcategories on them as it is. Saskatchewan isn't particularly central to Arnold Spohr's notability claim anyway -- it was his birthplace, but isn't all that closely tied to his context for notability, so there isn't a pressing need to tag him as a Saskatchewan biography at all -- and while Ralph L. Thomas does have a more PEI-specific notability claim, it comes close enough to the edges of politics ("commissioner on land and local governance") that he could easily just use {{tl|PrinceEdwardIsland-politician-stub}}, if anybody feels that's necessary, instead of needing this. Bearcat (talk) 19:36, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Keep more specific stub types underneath this, like the PEI-politico stubtype. Thus this allows stubsorting away from the base bio-stub type. Lets WikiGnomes just sort things. -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 06:52, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
• Delete No, it doesn't. It allows nonexistent people to move things from point A to point A when they really should be in point C instead. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 04:00, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:27, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Conjunctions by language to :Category:Conjunctions

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category is not helpful for navigation. There's not enough content to justify diffusion. Mason (talk) 18:26, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

::I suggest that, as goes Subordinators by language, so should this go. Brett (talk) 19:54, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Merge for now, without objection to recreate the category when more articles are published. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:03, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
• Agree with the proposal, but for a different reason. I'm happy to be told that there's not enough content to justify diffusion. Most of the article Conjunction (grammar) is devoted to "conjunctions" in English, and a lot of what it says is piffle. This is unsurprising, because in English, at least, the "conjunction" (even if renamed) "isn't a thing". When the term "conjunction" is used, it's usually held to subsume (i) "coordinating conjunction" (i.e. coordinator) and "subordinating conjunction" (a mishmash of (ii) the subordinators, (iii) a lot of prepositions, and (iv) perhaps the occasional adverb). (Citation needed? The Cambridge Grammar of the English Language, pp 599–600, 1011–1014, 1278n.) A directory tree for "conjunctions" could help perpetuate this unknowing. Let's first work to demythologize Wikipedia's treatment of grammar, and then fortify its categorization. -- Hoary (talk) 01:33, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
• Comment the main article is conjunction (grammar) not conjunction -- the main category is misnamed, it should be {{category|conjunctions (grammar)}} -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 01:50, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:28, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Next Indian general election}}

:Nominator's rationale: This category was created for the Next Indian general election article. However, when the article was moved 2024 Indian general election, someone created a new :Category:2024 Indian general election rather than request the existing category be renamed. This means we now have two categories for the same election, with multiple articles in both. Also nominating :Category:Next Indian general election by state or union territory, as it has been duplicated by :Category:2024 Indian general election by state or union territory. Number 57 18:22, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

::Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:26, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Merge or reverse merge+rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:05, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
• Delete I created the new categories unknowingly that the previous ones should have been moved. Just for the record I have added new categories in nearly all the pages. If some are left maybe we can add them and delete this. ShaanSengupta^Talk 06:14, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete/merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:31, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Disease-related deaths in the medieval Islamic world}}

:* Propose merging :Category:Suicides in the medieval Islamic world to :Category:Medieval suicides

:Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between type of death and era and location Mason (talk) 18:14, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support per nom, but also move the two topic articles of :Category:Disease-related deaths in the medieval Islamic world to :Category:Deaths in the medieval Islamic world. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:09, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename to :Category:Fiction about unidentified flying objects. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:33, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Unidentified flying objects in fiction to :Category:Fiction about UFOs

:Nominator's rationale: Subcategories of :Category:Unidentified flying objects generally use the abbreviation. However, the naming convention we've been using for subcategories of :Category:Fiction by topic is also inconsistent with its subcategories and :Category:UFO-related media. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 18:04, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Rename to :Category:Fiction about unidentified flying objects. This naming scheme should be used until Unidentified flying object is moved to UFO. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:31, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support alt rename per Zxcvbnm. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:23, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: downmerge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:33, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Bookstores in fiction to :Category:Works set in bookstores

:Nominator's rationale: Another category layer that seems to be based entirely on setting and is redundant. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 17:51, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Downmerge per nom. Note that a downmerge should take place manually. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:18, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:36, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Stand-up comedy on DVD to :Category:Stand-up comedy concert films

:Nominator's rationale: Non-defining. Why does it matter that it was on DVD? Mason (talk) 17:38, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

::Delete Lots of theatrical and television films are released on DVD. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 18:05, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:20, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename to :Category:Constructed fictional scripts. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:37, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Constructed scripts in fiction to :Category:Fictional scripts

:Nominator's rationale: The title calls for :Category:Fiction about constructed scripts, but I think the proposal is more accurate here, or possibly :Category:Constructed scripts for fictional languages. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 17:37, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

::* I created it many years ago and I have no objection to the proposed renaming.

::Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 22:17, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Rename to :Category:Constructed fictional scripts. A "fictional script" is not necessarily a constructed language, plus it could be confused with scriptwriting. "Fictional constructed scripts" could also imply something is a hoax, but "Constructed fictional scripts" specifies it is a fictional language that has been constructed. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:19, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
• Support alt rename per Zxcvbnm. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:25, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete/merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:37, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|American gymnastics coaches by state}}

:* Propose merging :Category:Gymnastics coaches from Indiana to :Category:Sports coaches from Indiana

:* Propose merging :Category:Gymnastics coaches from Illinois to :Category:Sports coaches from Illinois

:Nominator's rationale: Contains two categories which contain one article each. Merge subcategories with respect parent categories. Omnis Scientia (talk) 17:36, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

::Comment: both articles are already in :Category:American gymnastics coaches. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:46, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

::Merge per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:07, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:22, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete/merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:40, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|American volleyball coaches by state}}

:* Propose merging :Category:Volleyball coaches from Indiana to :Category:Sports coaches from Indiana

:Nominator's rationale: Contains one category only which should be merged with parent category Omnis Scientia (talk) 17:32, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

::Merge the Indiana subcategory to the proposed target and :Category:American volleyball coaches, and delete the intermediate layer. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 18:07, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:22, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:42, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:North Korean spies to :Category:Spies for North Korea

:Nominator's rationale: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 20#Category:Spies by nationality 寒吉 (talk) 17:30, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

::Oppose. These are two distinct category trees. Mason (talk) 19:45, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

:::Special:PermaLink/213579889, what's the difference??? 寒吉 (talk) 15:03, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose per Mason. No objection to creating :Category:Spies for North Korea if it can be populated with a fair number of articles about non-North Korean people. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:26, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:42, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:18th-century Puritans to :Category:18th-century Calvinist and Reformed Christians

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge as this category isn't helpful for navigation to only have one category in it. Mason (talk) 17:19, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Just delete, the subcategory is already in the tree of :Category:18th-century Calvinist and Reformed ministers. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:30, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:43, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:1900 in the Ashanti Empire to :Category:1900 in Africa

:Nominator's rationale: This is the only category for the entire empire, and it has only one page in it War of the Golden Stool. I've already added it to :Category:History of the Ashanti Empire. Mason (talk) 17:14, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

::Delete The page is already in that target as well. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 18:06, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Just delete per above. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:32, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: dual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:44, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose splitting :Category:American anti-vaccination activists who died from COVID-19 to :Category:American anti-vaccination activists and :Category:Anti-vaccination activist deaths from the COVID-19 pandemic

:Nominator's rationale: No need to diffuse Anti-vaccination activist deaths from the COVID-19 pandemic by nationality. There are less than 20 pages in the entire activist deaths tree. Mason (talk) 17:03, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:08, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:45, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Law enforcement in fiction}} to :Category:Fiction about law enforcement

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Courts-martial in fiction‎}} to :Category:Fiction about courts-martial

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Police dogs in fiction‎}} to :Category:Fiction about police dogs

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Police misconduct in fiction}} to :Category:Fiction about police misconduct

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Police corruption in fiction‎}} to :Category:Fiction about police corruption

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Police brutality in fiction‎}} to :Category:Fiction about police brutality

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Police academies in fiction}} to :Category:Fiction about police academies

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women in law enforcement in fiction}} to :Category:Fiction about women in law enforcement

:Nominator's rationale: Conversion from X in fiction to Fiction about X, as this must be a defining trait. Thre is another CfD going on that may affect the subcategories about specific law enforcement agencies or agencies in a specific country, so I am not doing those yet. It's possible that the court-martial and police academy should be "Fiction set in X" or "Works set in X". –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 16:33, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support (as creator of some). These are intended for articles where this is WP:DEFINING, and the proposed rename would encourage that. - RevelationDirect (talk) 16:41, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
• Rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:36, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
• Rename Ebbedlila (talk) 19:14, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to :Category:Murdered journalists. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:47, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Journalists killed in the Ottoman Empire}}

:Nominator's rationale: Only member of the category wasn't killed because they were a journalist. They happened to be a journalist who was murdered in the armerian genocide Mason (talk) 15:52, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 15:53, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
• Merge to :Category:Murdered journalists, even if the subject of the article was not murdered because of his profession he still belongs in the merge target. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:42, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
• Merge to :Category:Murdered journalists per above. VegaDark (talk) 21:15, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: manual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:47, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose manually merging :Category:English male television presenters to :Category:English television presenters

:* Propose manually merging :Category:Male television presenters from Northern Ireland to :Category:Television presenters from Northern Ireland

:* Propose manually merging :Category:Scottish male television presenters to :Category:Scottish television presenters

:* Propose manually merging :Category:Welsh male television presenters to :Category:Welsh television presenters

:* Propose manually merging :Category:English male television personalities to :Category:English television personalities

:* Propose manually merging :Category:Male television personalities from Northern Ireland to :Category:Television personalities from Northern Ireland

:* Propose manually merging :Category:Scottish male television personalities to :Category:Scottish television personalities

:* Propose manually merging :Category:Welsh male television personalities to :Category:Welsh television personalities

:Nominator's rationale: manually merge per precedent: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_December_9#Category:Male_television_presenters. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:44, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 15:53, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:48, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Anti-Orthodox Judaism sentiment}}

:Nominator's rationale: Looking at the content of this category, it seems that it does not include content expressly hostile to Orthodox Judaism, but rather stack any other form of Judaism, such as {{C|Conservative Judaism}} and {{Cl|Secular Jewish culture}}. Converts {{Cl|Former Orthodox Jews}} are also there. Not being Orthodox Jew does not make you Anti-Orthodox. Place Clichy (talk) 15:41, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

::Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 16:57, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Delete, the articles are mostly about works critical of Orthodox Judaism, but "anti-" goes too far and it is not quite about "sentiment". Marcocapelle (talk) 15:58, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:51, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Films which grossed over $1 billion}}

:Nominator's rationale: Arbitrary cut off. Mason (talk) 14:31, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

::Delete Also lacks specificity for the currency denomination. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:54, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:12, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. The only articles in the category are Oleg Akkuratov and Nicole Zuraitis. Feel free to add them to the article. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:53, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:Convert :Category:Sarah Vaughan International Jazz Vocal Competition finalists to article James Moody Jazz Festival

:Nominator's rationale: Should be added to the main page of the competition, not their own category Mason (talk) 14:25, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Delete/listify, we do not categorize 2nd and 3rd places. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:14, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
• :Works for me and I wrote thr page. Bhdshoes2 (talk) 17:36, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:55, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Films where the star died during filming}}

:Nominator's rationale: Not well defined. Who counts as a star? Mason (talk) 14:27, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

::Merging seems fine by me...Ogün Eratalay ^message 14:39, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

:::Merging to where? @Ertly Mason (talk) 14:50, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

::Delete WP:OCTRIVIA, and the role of leading actor is not well-defined. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:57, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

::Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:08, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Rename to :Category:Films where an actor died during filming - makes much more sense and is more clearly defined. (Oinkers42) (talk) 16:46, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
• Delete, trivial and ill-defined. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:15, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
• Delete. Unfortunate and sad, but non-defining aspect of these films. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 18:47, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
• Comment While "star" is ill-defined, I don't think a change to "an actor" is an improvement as this could be anyone from the lead in a film to an extra. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:26, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 15:22, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
• Listify -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 01:48, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

:* It could be too trivial for a list too. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:57, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: dual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:56, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Postage stamps of Austria to :Category:Philately of Austria

:Nominator's rationale: Only one category in here, which is unhelpful for navigation Mason (talk) 13:59, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

::Forward merge The tree seems to mostly use "Philately of X" as the parent category. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 15:02, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Dual merge, also to :Category:Postage stamps. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:18, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:57, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Postage stamps of the United Arab Emirates to :Category:Philately of the United Arab Emirates

:Nominator's rationale: Overlapping cateogories Mason (talk) 13:58, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

::Forward merge The tree seems to mostly use "Philately of X" as the parent category. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 15:03, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:19, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:57, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Postage stamps and postal history of Turkey to :Category:Philately of Turkey

:Nominator's rationale: Overlapping categories. I'm indifferent to the direction Mason (talk) 13:56, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

::Forward merge The tree seems to mostly use "Philately of X" as the parent category. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 15:03, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:20, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:57, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Postage stamps of Estonia to :Category:Philately of Estonia

:Nominator's rationale: Merge as there are only two pages across the categories. I'm not sure of the direction of the merge. Mason (talk) 13:55, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

::Forward merge The tree seems to mostly use "Philately of X" as the parent category. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 15:03, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:21, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:58, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Philately of Kuwait to :Category:Philately by country

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one page in here that isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 13:51, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Merge, it is not specifically about Kuwait either. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:22, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge :Category:Modern child monarchs to :Category:Child monarchs, no consensus with no prejudice against speedy renomination for :Category:Modern people. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster^talk 17:03, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Modern people}}

:Nominator's rationale: Similar to Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_December_2#Category:Fictional_modern_characters, in that the modern era is not precisely defined, and the category was created by a {{user|CensoredScribe}} sock. It would also contain the vast majority of Wikipedia content regarding people. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 06:09, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

• In principle I have no objection at all but I would see it as a last step if and after we dissolved the modern subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:41, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
• :No problem:
• ::*Propose deleting :Category:Modern child monarchs
• :Not sure what to do about the rest of :Category:Modern history. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:00, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
• :::Category:Modern Latin-language writers is being discussed at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_December_7#Category:Modern_Latin-language_writers. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:04, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
• ::* Ok, but then rather merge :Category:Modern child monarchs to :Category:Child monarchs. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:21, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

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::Merge :Category:Modern child monarchs to :Category:Child monarchs. Then deal with the rest later on as Marcocapelle has suggested. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:08, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

:::@LaundryPizza03, @Marcocapelle, @Omnis Scientia, the CfD for :Category:Modern Latin-language writers was closed as keep (by me). Qwerfjkltalk 16:01, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename to :Category:Non-free files with no derivative works licenses. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:02, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Non-free with ND to :Category:Non-free media with no derivative works licenses

:Nominator's rationale: Consistency wiht subcategory :Category:Non-free media with non-commercial and no derivative works licenses; expands an abbreviation that may not be widely understood. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 18:07, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

• Rename per nom, or to :Category:Non-free files with no derivative works licenses (files instead of media) similar to Template:Non-free files with no derivative works licenses. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:37, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
• Thinking about it now, I prefer the alternative to match the template (i.e. "files" instead of "media"). HouseBlaster^talk 05:44, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

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• {{yo|LaundryPizza03}} do you have thoughts on :Category:Non-free files with no derivative works licenses? HouseBlaster^talk 03:27, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
• :Agreed, this is not limitedd to images and may contain other types of media, abd therefore we must place this directly into :Category:Wikipedia non-free files. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:06, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:06, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:1990s assassinated politicians in transcontinental Eurasia to :Category:1990s assassinated politicians

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Assassinated politicians in transcontinental Eurasia}}

:Nominator's rationale: We don't categorize deaths (or really anything) by "transcontinental Eurasia".:Category:Murders by continent. Personally, I don't find the assassination at the intersection of continent and decade helpful in general, but this in particular is really not helpful. Like are these everybody in asia or europe? Mason (talk) 20:34, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

• Delete, we do not have any other "transcontinental Eurasia" categories and we do not need one. This is combining Russia and Turkey (and a few other countries) which are normally not together. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:38, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
• Comment. Issue is that countries like Russia and Turkey are both in Europe and Asia and therefore need categorization in both Europe and Asia. If we make transcontinental Eurasia, categories that otherwise would have both Europe and Asia in these entries would only be under transcontinental Eurasia. Also, "transcontinental Eurasia" is a term used in sources.https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C11&q=transcontinental+Eurasia&btnG=&oq= Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 23:57, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
• :Thanks for sharing your reasoning that's helpful. However, I still don't see why the extra category complexity is helpful to others. Can't they just look in both categories? Mason (talk) 06:34, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
• It is just another reason why biographies should not be directly in a continent category. They should be in nationality categories, though of course not diffused by nationality and decade. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:17, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
• :"Can't they just look in both categories?" Yes, they can. But the point is to have one category instead of two. In this case, I think it helps navigation. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 02:57, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
• :There are not that many transcontinental countries though. I think at least some countries have a large number of entries diffused by nationality and decade that it could be helpful to diffuse like that. At least some decades, not all. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 02:59, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
• ::But it doesn't help navigation by isolating them away from asia and europe. It would only make sense after there are nationalities. Why would people expect turkey and russia be lumped together, instead of with both europe and asia? Mason (talk) 04:25, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
• :::You are right that it is more straightforward looking in Asia or Europe for Turkish or Russian people. My main concern was to add only one category instead of two of the same topic. But I did not do it arbitrarily either. Russia and Turkey are both transcontinental countries located in both in Europe and Asia, which are in Eurasia. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 18:53, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
• ::::Personally, I don't think that the benefits of having a single category outweigh the costs of being in two contentental categories. Mason (talk) 14:52, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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• Merge/delete as nom. I believe we recently deleted Eurasia categories, because they are a useless and confusing duplicate of existing continent schemes, because Eurasia(n) is ambiguous and also loaded with some POVs. Place Clichy (talk) 15:47, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
• :* Agree re “Eurasia” but there are other bicontinental countries apart from Russia and Turkey e.g. Cyprus and Egypt plus several countries in the Caucasus e.g. Armenia? Is there a list anywhere in Wikipedia e.g. for building temmplates? Hugo999 (talk) 04:08, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
• :*:List of transcontinental countries. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 20:34, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:05, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Accidental deaths by electrocution to :Category:?

:* Propose renaming :Category:Accidental deaths from falls to :Category:?

:* Propose renaming :Category:Firearm accident victims to :Category:?

:* Propose renaming :Category:Firearm accident victims in the United States to :Category:?

:* Propose renaming :Category:Military personnel killed by friendly fire to :Category:?

:* Propose renaming :Category:Deaths by horse-riding accident to :Category:?

:* Propose renaming :Category:Hunting accident deaths to :Category:?

:* Propose renaming :Category:Industrial accident deaths to :Category:?

:* Propose renaming :Category:Farming accident deaths to :Category:?

:* Propose renaming :Category:Deaths from laboratory accidents to :Category:?

:* Propose renaming :Category:Transport accidental deaths to :Category:?

:Nominator's rationale: There is no consistency among the category names within :Category:Accidental deaths. Also, some of the categories exclude articles about incidents rather than the victims themselves, such as the T-3 case from the firearms category, while others do not. Some subcategories have many descendants and will be handled separately in accordance with this CfD. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 08:25, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

• I am not sure if the names can be fully aligned. "Foo accident deaths" occurs the most often but it would not fit the first two very well. More important is the alignment of inclusion criteria, they should all be about incidents and deaths together. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:18, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

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::I would say keep as is. In many cases, exact alignment is not possible and this is one of those cases. Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:06, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:04, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Jewish video game developers to :Category:Video game developers

:Nominator's rationale: There are no other categories of Video Game developers by ethnicity. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:26, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

• Just delete, per WP:EGRS, no merge needed because the articles are already in :Category:American game designers. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:01, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
• :That works too. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:46, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
• Delete I have added another Jewish category to every article that didn't already have one, removing one that didn't mention being Jewish. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 15:13, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
• :Thanks @LaundryPizza03. Omnis Scientia (talk) 16:56, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
• Delete as a trivial intersection. Place Clichy (talk) 15:48, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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