Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 March 17

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:The result of the discussion was: rename as per nom. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 11:30, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Cleveland–Marshall College of Law alumni to :Category:Cleveland State University College of Law alumni

:Nominator's rationale: Per this move [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cleveland_State_University_College_of_Law&diff=prev&oldid=1122745455 here] the college was renamed; category should follow suit Snickers2686 (talk) 23:13, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

• Rename either per nom, or to :Category:CSU College of Law alumni because [https://www.law.csuohio.edu/ its website] shows CSU College of Law. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:59, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 11:36, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Berber rulers to :Category:Berber monarchs

:Nominator's rationale: All subcategories are about hereditary monarchs, namely caliphs, kings, sultans, pharaohs, and emirs. This is helpful to distinguish them from various other people who were heads of state/govt, but not hereditary, like Abd el-Krim. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 21:03, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

• Rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:09, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 11:36, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Rulers of Palmyra to :Category:Palmyrene monarchs

:Nominator's rationale: WP:C2D List of Palmyrene monarchs. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 20:32, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

• Rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:10, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 11:40, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Egyptians got it Order of the Rising Sun to :Category:?

:Nominator's rationale: Improperly named category. I don't know enough about the Order of the Rising Sun to know if this category is actually warranted or not, but this definitely would not be its correct name. Bearcat (talk) 15:20, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

• Merge to :Category:Recipients of the Order of the Rising Sun. Lol! Well it's a WP:SMALLCAT right now (3 items), and there doesn't seem to be a point in grouping recipients by nationality, even if that category is quite large (244 items). If we would split it, it would be "Egyptian recipients of the Order of the Rising Sun" etc.. but I'm not in favour of that. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 17:26, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
• Merge per Nl Leeuw. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:37, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
• Delete. No need to merge with :Category:Recipients of the Order of the Rising Sun as it's already there in the three articles. Elhady514 (talk) 00:27, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 11:40, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Salem Spartans}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, only 3 articles (one of which I have WP:AFDed), and no likely target articles will be created. The team article is already in parent article, and the stadium article seems like a bad target for that category, so delete seems better than upmerge to me. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:42, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

• Delete Per nom. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 10:28, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: combine/rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 11:42, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Twenty20 Cup and :Category:NatWest t20 Blast to :Category:T20 Blast

:* Propose merging :Category:Twenty20 Cup seasons and :Category:NatWest t20 Blast seasons to :Category:T20 Blast seasons

:* Propose renaming :Category:Twenty20 Cup Finals to :Category:T20 Blast finals

:* Propose renaming :Category:NatWest t20 Blast templates to :Category:T20 Blast templates

:Nominator's rationale: The T20 Blast has had many names since 2003, but it is the same tournament. So these two categories should be merged, and renamed to :Category:T20 Blast as that is the tournament's current name. In addition, the subcategories for the seasons and finals should be merged and renamed similarly. Note that we merged all the articles for this tournament together into T20 Blast in 2018, so doing the same for categories should be uncontroversial. Let me know if I've formatted this incorrectly. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:07, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

• Merge Seems to be the obvious solution that has been used in many similar circumstances, surprised they've lasted this long without being sorted before. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 10:29, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
• Comment I am also proposing the following be added (apologies that this is a late request):

:* Propose merging :Category:Friends Life t20 to :Category:T20 Blast

:* Propose merging :Category:Friends Life t20 seasons to :Category:T20 Blast seasons

• Both of these are another former name of this tournament, and so it's logical to merge them at the same time, for all the same reasons as in my original nomination. Only just found these categories existed, hopefully it's not too late to discuss them. Pinging {{U|Rugbyfan22}} for their thoughts on these additional categories (as they are the only person other than myself who has commented here). Joseph2302 (talk) 13:53, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
• :Support merge of these two also. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 20:24, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 11:47, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Wikipedians interested in playing sports}}

:Nominator's rationale: Has somehow been around since 2005, but that doesn't change the fact that this is far too broad to facilitate collaboration. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:01, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

• Delete, this may be ok for a userbox on a user page but it has nothing to do with Wikipedia. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:28, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
• Delete, violates WP:USERCAT as a category that cannot possibly be used for collaboration. VegaDark (talk) 17:13, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 11:48, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Wikipedians interested in wildflower identification}}

:Nominator's rationale: Somewhat to my surprise, there's no article (or any significant mainspace content I could find) on wildflower identification. Without any mainspace content to anchor it a user category inherently has no collaborative value. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 02:58, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

• Delete or upmerge to :Category:Wikipedians interested in biology, per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:30, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename & reparent. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 11:48, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Rulers of Chittagong to :Category:Governors of Chittagong. Re-parent to :Category:Governors of Bengal.

:Nominator's rationale: All three people in it are actually called "governors", which are not "rulers", because they are not sovereign, nor hereditary. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 00:54, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

• Rename and re-parent per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:32, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename (parent already renamed). (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 11:49, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Rajput rulers to :Category:Rajput monarchs. Re-parent from :Category:Indian rulers to :Category:Indian monarchs.

:Nominator's rationale: WP:C2C: the child "Rulers of the Kingdom of Marwar" was recently renamed to :Category:Monarchs of Marwar, because "monarch" was deemed more specific; all other subcats (most of them named "Maharajas of") are also in :Category:Hindu monarchs, so they are already identified as "monarchs". I recommend leaving a redirect to prevent re-creation and duplication. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 00:47, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

• Rename and re-parent per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:33, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: upmerge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 11:50, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|12th-century BCE High Priests of Israel}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT: 1 item. WP:CATDD: {{tq|Don't add pages to non-neutral or unverifiable categories.}} As the cat description says, {{!xt|Dates are based on the Biblical literalist chronology}}, which is in violation of WP:V, WP:RS, WP:OR, and WP:NPOV. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 00:17, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

• Upmerge to :Category:12th-century BC clergy, :Category:12th-century BCE Hebrew people and :Category:High Priests of Israel per WP:SMALLCAT. While these parent categories still exist, the article Eli (biblical figure) should remain part of them. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:38, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
• :I don't think we should place this largely mythological character (who is also in the :Category:Mythological blind people) in any century category whatsoever. Even if literalist chronologies were accurate (which they are not), it would place a probably non-historical person in history, where they do not belong. Or at least, Wikipedia cannot place them there because of the policies and guidelines I have mentioned. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 10:19, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

:* The same applies to every other article in :Category:12th-century BCE Hebrew people. As long as that category is not nominated it remains a proper merge target. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:13, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

:*:{{ping|Marcocapelle}} I agree. Would you like me to add it, or make it a separate nom after we're done with this one? I don't want to be impatient and have too many interlinked noms running simultaneously. I've already nominated several related cats. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 17:32, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

:*:* Probably better to keep this to a fresh nomination after we're done here. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:51, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

:*:*:Ok, thanks. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 22:07, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

• Upmerge, following the precedent of Aaron, Eleazar and Phinehas.– Fayenatic London 08:24, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

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