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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:11, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Redirects from external links}}

:Nominator's rationale: {{tl|r from external link}} has been deleted, so I believe this is eligible for speedy deletion under WP:C4, but {{u|2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:D69:7CF2:4B8A:3610}} contested this because {{u|Liz}} recently tagged the category with {{tl|emptycat}}. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:33, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

::Speedy is only intended for uncontroversial deletions, and the recent tagging demonstrates that deletion is not uncontroversial. There was limited discussion of these cases previously with some feeling that pages tagged with Template:Emptycat should never be eligible for C4, and others being OK if the template was a holdover from a past time that was no longer applicable. Regardless, given the timing here C4 should not be used.

::Anyway, XFD is flatly better to speedy deletion in every aspect except volume management, and the clearer consensus created by discussion is often of value going forward. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:BCD7:AA73:70F1:F07C (talk) 23:07, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

• Delete - I created the now-deleted rcat template and companion category several years ago because consensus at the time was that we should maintain malformed incoming link targets. This largely had to do with a bug in Reddit markup which caused some links with trailing punctuation to omit a closing parenthesis in the actual hyperlink, which meant that links from Reddit to Wikipedia pages with parenthetical disambiguators were frequently broken. That bug seems to have long since been corrected. Consensus now seems to be that we should let any remaining malformed incoming links rot instead, and so such redirects will generally always be deleted (unless some other rcat applies), and this category will always be empty. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 21:48, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
• Delete This is a clear C4 case, and shouldn't have been declined. Which is one of the rare cases I disagree with the IP above - we usually have very similar views on speedy deletions. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:23, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
• Delete, this shouldn't be a defining redirect category and having an "external link" is not a reason to maintain a redirect; more suitable rcats should be used where appropriate. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 16:44, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:53, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic literature to :Category:Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

:* Propose merging :Category:Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic comics to :Category:Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

:* Propose merging :Category:Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic novels to :Category:Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

:* Propose merging :Category:Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic video games to :Category:Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

:* Propose merging :Category:Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic characters to :Category:Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

:Nominator's rationale: An unnecessary group of subcategories made by the same blocked disruptive user. There are not enough actual pages to merit the existence of subcategories, and they can easily fit within the parent category. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:35, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

::Note: They should all be dual-merged into the matching "Star Wars X" or "X based on Star Wars" parent categories as well if necessary. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 22:24, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

:::{{yo|zxcvbnm}} Just to make sure I am not putting words into your mouth, are you proposing a manual merge to "Star Wars X" or "X based Star Wars" categories (if appropriate), followed by a bot-performed merge to :Category:Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:31, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

::::Yes, I believe that's what I meant. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:42, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/rename as nominated. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:11, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Years of the 20th century in South Vietnam to :Category:Years in South Vietnam

:* Propose renaming :Category:Years of the 20th century in North Vietnam to :Category:Years in North Vietnam

:Nominator's rationale: merge, duplicate scope in South Vietnam, all years were in the 20th century. Rename North Vietnam for consistency. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:54, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:17, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Infectious disease deaths in the Seljuk Empire}}

:Nominator's rationale: delete, category contains only one article which is not helpful for navigation. Merging is not needed, the article is also in :Category:Infectious disease deaths in Syria. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:11, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:19, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Georgian–Seljuk wars to :Category:Battles of the Georgian–Seljuk wars

:Nominator's rationale: rename, per actual content, except for one article they are all about battles. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:33, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:46, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Catering and food service companies of Scotland}}

:Nominator's rationale: Contains no articles and only a subcat not about catering and food service companies (:Category:Hotels in Scotland) AusLondonder (talk) 14:24, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

• Delete, :Category:Restaurants in Scotland can easily be added but that wouldn't be enough. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:37, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:26, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Places named after Canadian politicians}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Places named after George-Étienne Cartier}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Places named after Tommy Douglas}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Places named after René Lévesque}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Places named after Louis Riel}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Places named after John Robson (politician)}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Places named after prime ministers of Canada}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Places named after John Abbott}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Places named after Robert Borden}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Places named after John Diefenbaker}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Places named after William Lyon Mackenzie King}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Places named after Wilfrid Laurier}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Places named after John A. Macdonald}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Places named after Alexander Mackenzie (politician)}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Places named after Arthur Meighen}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Places named after Lester B. Pearson}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Places named after Louis St. Laurent}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Places named after Pierre Elliott Trudeau}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Places named after Charles Tupper}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:SHAREDNAME violations. Per longstanding consensus, we do not categorize things for who or what they were named after. Bearcat (talk) 13:45, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:46, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
• delete. Not a defining characteristic. --Altenmann >talk 20:38, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:26, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Fire prevention in the United Kingdom}}

:Nominator's rationale: Only subcat by country in the :Category:Fire prevention tree and contains only a single redirect to Building regulations in the United Kingdom. AusLondonder (talk) 13:38, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:48, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to :Category:University sports venues in the United Kingdom. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:26, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:University and college field hockey venues in the United Kingdom to :Category:College field hockey venues and :Category:Field hockey venues in the United Kingdom and :Category:University and college field hockey in the United Kingdom and :Category:University sports venues in the United Kingdom

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge this underpopulated category {{clc|University and college field hockey venues in the United Kingdom}}. Mason (talk) 12:40, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

• Support in principle but only merge to :Category:University sports venues in the United Kingdom since the article is about a multi-purpose venue. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:51, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
• Single Merge to :Category:University sports venues in the United Kingdom per Marcocapelle, given that its not defined by field hockey. - RevelationDirect (talk) 16:25, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: triple merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:49, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose splitting :Category:Subfields of astrophysics to :Category:Astrophysics and :Category:Subfields of physics

:Nominator's rationale: Duel upmerge. This category is underpopulated, and not helpful for navigation with only two pages in it Mason (talk) 12:32, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

• Support in principle per nom, perhaps it should (also) be merged to :Category:Astronomical sub-disciplines. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:01, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
• :{{yo|Smasongarrison}} triple merge? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:23, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
• ::3x merge sounds good to me Mason (talk) 01:03, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: withdrawn (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 15:15, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:TripleS (group) to :Category:TripleS

:Nominator's rationale: The group doesn’t require disambiguation. The category should simply be renamed to "TripleS." Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 08:36, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

:* I'm withdrawing my request.Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 12:13, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

• This could have been listed at Speedy but the subcategories should be nominated too. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

::I understand. How do I withdraw my request? Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 08:53, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:25, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Stations of Tokyo Toden to :Category:Stations of Tokyo Metropolitan Bureau of Transportation and :Category:Tram stops

:Nominator's rationale: merge, only one article in the category, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:40, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:25, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Tram stops in Switzerland by municipality to :Category:Tram stops

:Nominator's rationale: merge, only one subcategory in the category, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:35, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

• :Category:Tram stops in Switzerland would be more appropriate. Mackensen (talk) 11:11, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

:* There aren't any other articles about tram stops in Switzerland so I presume we can skip that. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:17, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

:*:Are you proposing to upmerge {{cat|Tram stops in Switzerland}} as well, then? jlwoodwa (talk) 21:54, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

:*:* Yes, it will be deleted as empty anyway. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:24, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:24, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:People associated with the Livonian Order to :Category:People of the Livonian Order

:Nominator's rationale: rename, "associated with" is unnecessarily vague. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:30, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

:Support and if someone is not lazy, check the correctness of the inclusion: there should be no "associated with", only "of", per WP:ASSOCIATEDWITH. --Altenmann >talk 20:36, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge :Category:Lechitic-language surnames to :Category:West Slavic-language surnames and delete :Category:Surnames of Lechitic origin. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:24, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Surnames of Lechitic origin}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Lechitic-language surnames}}

:Nominator's rationale: Completely redundant very thin linguistic layers. --Altenmann >talk 00:37, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

• Support per nom, but merge :Category:Lechitic-language surnames to :Category:West Slavic-language surnames. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:27, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
• Correct. --Altenmann >talk 20:34, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

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