Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 June 4
= June 4 =
== Category:Wikipedian AdBlock Users ==
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:The result of the discussion was: delete. Sohom (talk) 16:15, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{lc|Wikipedian AdBlock Users}}
:Nominator's rationale: Fails WP:USERCAT for lacking any discernible collaborative function. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:04, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, it is unrelated to Wikipedia. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:41, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Association football training grounds by country ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * it has begun... 23:05, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:Association football training grounds by country to :Category:Association football training grounds
:Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary layer. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 20:57, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Merge, the parent category is otherwise almost empty. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:42, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Longhorn Records ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * it has begun... 23:05, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{lc|Longhorn Records}}
:Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary eponymous parent category for one subcat with three articles. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 19:47, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:06, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- :Delete per nom. None of the albums the three artists in that subcats released through this label have articles, so the likelihood of this expanding is unlikely in the short term. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 23:37, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:American male spearfishers ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * it has begun... 23:05, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:American male spearfishers to :Category:American spearfishers, :Category:American sportsmen, and :Category:Male spearfishers
:* Propose merging :Category:Australian female spearfishers to :Category:Australian spearfishers, :Category:Australian sportswomen, and :Category:Female spearfishers
:* Propose merging :Category:Australian male spearfishers to :Category:Australian spearfishers, :Category:Australian sportsmen, and :Category:Male spearfishers
:* Propose merging :Category:French male spearfishers to :Category:French spearfishers, :Category:French sportsmen, and :Category:Male spearfishers
:* Propose merging :Category:Guamanian male spearfishers to :Category:Guamanian spearfishers, :Category:Guamanian sportsmen, and :Category:Male spearfishers
:* Propose merging :Category:Male spearfishers of insular areas of the United States to :Category:Spearfishers of insular areas of the United States
:* Propose merging :Category:Northern Mariana Islands male spearfishers to :Category:Northern Mariana Islands sportsmen and :Category:Male spearfishers
:* Propose merging :Category:Palauan male spearfishers to :Category:Palauan spearfishers, :Category:Palauan sportsmen, and :Category:Male spearfishers
:Nominator's rationale: There are 20 categories for 15 spearfisher articles, which is not helpful for navigation. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 18:04, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:08, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Football clubs in Skåne County by city ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * it has begun... 23:05, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:Football clubs in Skåne County by city to :Category:Football clubs in Sweden by populated place and :Category:Football clubs in Skåne County
:Nominator's rationale: This category structure is possible but the category :Category:Football clubs in Skåne County is not overly complicated. The four Category:Football clubs in Foo City may be separated from the eponymous categories by {{code| Foo City}}. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 17:26, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Merge, also because there isn't any other Category:Football clubs in County by city. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:11, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: adjusted target after speedy move. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 21:49, 13 June 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Stadionområdet (Malmö) ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * it has begun... 23:05, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:Stadionområdet (Malmö) to :Category:Sports venues in Malmö
:Nominator's rationale: It is more defining for these articles that they are sports venues in Malmö (parent category) than that they are situated close to each other in the city. No need to merge the two club categories inside. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 17:14, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Manually merge per nom (excluding the main article and the two subcategories). Marcocapelle (talk) 20:14, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Malmö Redhawks arenas ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * it has begun... 23:05, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:Malmö Redhawks arenas to :Category:Malmö Redhawks
:Nominator's rationale: Only two entries and a non-standard type of category. Regarding merge targets, the first category parent is a subcategory of the second category parent. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 17:03, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:15, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:July 1997 sports events in Sweden ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * it has begun... 23:05, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:July 1997 sports events in Sweden to :Category:1997 in Swedish sport, :Category:July 1997 in Sweden, and :Category:July 1997 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging :Category:June 1997 sports events in Sweden to :Category:1997 in Swedish sport, :Category:June 1997 in Sweden, and :Category:June 1997 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging :Category:August 1999 sports events in Sweden to :Category:1999 in Swedish sport, :Category:August 1999 in Sweden, and :Category:August 1999 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging :Category:May 2002 sports events in Sweden to :Category:2002 in Swedish sport, :Category:May 2002 in Sweden, and :Category:May 2002 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging :Category:April 2004 sports events in Sweden to :Category:2004 in Swedish sport, :Category:April 2004 in Sweden, and :Category:April 2004 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging :Category:July 2013 sports events in Sweden to :Category:2013 in Swedish sport, :Category:July 2013 in Sweden, and :Category:July 2013 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging :Category:June 2017 sports events in Sweden to :Category:2017 in Swedish sport, :Category:June 2017 in Sweden, and :Category:June 2017 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging :Category:May 2017 sports events in Sweden to :Category:2017 in Swedish sport, :Category:May 2017 in Sweden, and :Category:May 2017 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging :Category:April 2018 sports events in Sweden to :Category:2018 in Swedish sport, :Category:April 2018 in Sweden, and :Category:April 2018 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging :Category:August 2018 sports events in Sweden to :Category:2018 in Swedish sport, :Category:August 2018 in Sweden, and :Category:August 2018 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging :Category:February 2018 sports events in Sweden to :Category:2018 in Swedish sport, :Category:February 2018 in Sweden, and :Category:February 2018 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging :Category:July 2018 sports events in Sweden to :Category:2018 in Swedish sport, :Category:July 2018 in Sweden, and :Category:July 2018 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging :Category:March 2018 sports events in Sweden to :Category:2018 in Swedish sport, :Category:March 2018 in Sweden, and :Category:March 2018 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging :Category:May 2018 sports events in Sweden to :Category:2018 in Swedish sport, :Category:May 2018 in Sweden, and :Category:May 2018 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging :Category:November 2018 sports events in Sweden to :Category:2018 in Swedish sport, :Category:November 2018 in Sweden, and :Category:November 2018 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging :Category:October 2018 sports events in Sweden to :Category:2018 in Swedish sport, :Category:October 2018 in Sweden, and :Category:October 2018 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging :Category:April 2019 sports events in Sweden to :Category:2019 in Swedish sport, :Category:April 2019 in Sweden, and :Category:April 2019 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging :Category:February 2019 sports events in Sweden to :Category:2019 in Swedish sport, :Category:February 2019 in Sweden, and :Category:February 2019 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging :Category:January 2019 sports events in Sweden to :Category:2019 in Swedish sport, :Category:January 2019 in Sweden, and :Category:January 2019 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging :Category:July 2019 sports events in Sweden to :Category:2019 in Swedish sport, :Category:July 2019 in Sweden, and :Category:July 2019 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging :Category:June 2019 sports events in Sweden to :Category:2019 in Swedish sport, :Category:June 2019 in Sweden, and :Category:June 2019 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging :Category:March 2019 sports events in Sweden to :Category:2019 in Swedish sport, :Category:March 2019 in Sweden, and :Category:March 2019 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging :Category:May 2019 sports events in Sweden to :Category:2019 in Swedish sport, :Category:May 2019 in Sweden, and :Category:May 2019 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging :Category:November 2019 sports events in Sweden to :Category:2019 in Swedish sport, :Category:November 2019 in Sweden, and :Category:November 2019 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging :Category:October 2019 sports events in Sweden to :Category:2019 in Swedish sport, :Category:October 2019 in Sweden, and :Category:October 2019 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging :Category:August 2020 sports events in Sweden to :Category:2020 in Swedish sport, :Category:August 2020 in Sweden, and :Category:August 2020 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging :Category:February 2020 sports events in Sweden to :Category:2020 in Swedish sport, :Category:February 2020 in Sweden, and :Category:February 2020 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging :Category:July 2020 sports events in Sweden to :Category:2020 in Swedish sport, :Category:July 2020 in Sweden, and :Category:July 2020 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging :Category:August 2021 sports events in Sweden to :Category:2021 in Swedish sport, :Category:August 2021 in Sweden, and :Category:August 2021 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging :Category:May 2021 sports events in Sweden to :Category:2021 in Swedish sport, :Category:May 2021 in Sweden, and :Category:May 2021 sports events in Europe
:* Propose merging :Category:September 2021 sports events in Sweden to :Category:2021 in Swedish sport, :Category:September 2021 in Sweden, and :Category:September 2021 sports events in Europe
:Nominator's rationale: With a peak of about 10 articles per year in recent years, it is to narrow to be useful to categorise sports events in Sweden by year and month. I missed these in Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 May 27#Category:Swedish sport by year and month. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 16:29, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:16, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Real Book Song ==
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:The result of the discussion was: keep. The Bushranger One ping only 03:06, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting :Category:Real Book Song
:Nominator's rationale: Not a defining characteristic of these pieces because at time of writing, out of the 19 entries beginning with "A", only one, African Flower, explicitly mentions that it's in the Real Book. Also awkwardly overlaps with :Category:Jazz standards; many (though not all) of the entries fit in that category or its subcategories, but "All in Love Is Fair" absolutely doesn't. Perhaps better as a list. If this is kept, it should be renamed to something like :Category:Real Book compositions for proper pluralisation and capitalisation ... and because many of the entries have no lyrics and are therefore not songs. :Category:Compositions in the Real Book would also work for this purpose. I was going to nominate this category for renaming but upon thinking about it, deletion seemd more appropriate. Graham87 (talk) 15:31, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
::Keep: Many jazz standards are not in the Real Book, and vice versa.
::Lyrics are not now, and have never been, a requirement for something to be considered a song. Moreover, the Real Book is specifically designed for performances without vocalists, which is why the lead sheets in the book do not include lyrics. A typical Real Book user is a jazz instrumentalist.
::The larger issue is whether or not being in the Real Book is a defining characteristic of a song. I can attest that it is. Perhaps other professionals can weigh in on this. It's enough of a metric that it is bizarre to have a Wikipedia entry for a song like "All of Me" and not reference the fact that it is in the Real Book.Trumpetrep (talk) 18:32, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
::* The question is whether reliable sources about these songs consistently mention inclusion in the Real Book. Considering that it is hardly mentioned in Wikipedia articles suggests that this is not the case. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:31, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
::*:That's not the question. Their inclusion in the book is the reliable source, Cf. WP:PLOTCITE. That's like asking for a reliable source that a word is in the dictionary. The dictionary is the source that supports the statement. So too here.Trumpetrep (talk) 23:11, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
::*:That is the question for the purposes of this discussion, which asks whether a piece's presence in the Real Book is an important enough characteristic for a category to be created. Also, on Wikipedia and in precise non-colloquial language, a song is written for voice; an instrumental isn't. Graham87 (talk) 03:46, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
::*::Precise, non-colloquial language has never required a song to be written for voice. As previously stated, the Real Book is an omnipresent reference in the music industry. If a song is included in it, that is certainly an important enough characteristic for it to be categorized as such.Trumpetrep (talk) 15:45, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
::Keep: No objection to a list instead. But don't see this as problematic. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:11, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: I'm going to copy over a comment made at the category's talk page by its creator, as it's relevant to this discussion and might be lost if the category is deleted. Graham87 (talk) 03:46, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
- :I appreciate User:Graham87's good faith nomination of this category for deletion. His concerns are not dissimilar from my own motivations for creating the category. How to organize information on Wikipedia is a persistent, vexing problem.
- :I was startled to realize how little information there was on Wikipedia about these songs, which are some of the most recorded in the history of the music industry. There is no shortage of information on them, yet so many of the articles here are stubs ("Anthropology", "Boplicity", "A Foggy Day", etc.) Even a chestnut like "Don't Get Around Much Anymore" is just a start-class article on Wikipedia.
- :I also found it perplexing that a foundational song like "Cherokee" was categorized as "Jazz compositions in B-flat major", which is about as helpful as a category for "Paintings that use the color blue". Given how fundamental transposing songs into different keys is to jazz performance, it's hard to see the utility of such a category. Someone else does, though, and that's what matters on Wikipedia.
- :In my view, a category for Real Book songs helps the Wikipedia project connect information. Perhaps it will draw people to add much needed sources to articles about the book and its songs. Perhaps it might spur people to create articles for all the Gary Burton and Chick Corea songs that are in the book.
Wikipedia's policies are often contradictory. They are also legion. It's hard to know sometimes the best way to proceed. From what I understand, a list is less desirable than a category. That is why I created the category. Perhaps some Manual of Style exegete can set me straight. Regardless, my goal is simply to tidy up a neglected corner of Wikipedia and hopefully help some people learn about this repertoire.Trumpetrep (talk) 20:12, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- ::To respond to some of the above points: Wikipedia uses reliable secondary sources and it's often hard to find those for compositions. Categories and lists have their advantages and disadvantages; see Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates. Feel free to nominate :Category:Jazz compositions by key for deletion; this sort of thing was done in 2013. Graham87 (talk) 03:46, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
- :* When a list is not appropriate then a category even less. Lists are not restricted to WP:DEFINING characteristics while categories are. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:48, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
- :*:The National Recording Registry provides a handy example. Songs are added to it well after their recording date, such as Kate Smith's "God Bless America". It was recorded in 1938 and inducted into the National Recording Registry in 2007. Its inclusion in the Registry is now one of its defining characteristics.
- :*:This is exactly how songs in the Real Book are treated in the industry. If a song in is in the Real Book, it is a marker of significance and one of its defining characteristics.Trumpetrep (talk) 16:18, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
- :*:* It is not a defining characteristic when sources about these songs usually do not mention it. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:53, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
- :*:*:Sources about Kate Smith's "God Bless America" do not "usually mention it" is in the National Recording Registry, either. Nevertheless, it is a defining characteristic of the song.Trumpetrep (talk) 17:25, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
- :*:*:* Then it is not, please read WP:DEFINING. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:27, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- :*:*:*:Per the "Defining concept in the context of Wikipedia categorization", "if the characteristic would not be appropriate to mention in the lead section of an article (regardless of whether it is currently mentioned in the lead), it is probably not defining".
- :*:*:*:Being included in the Real Book is absolutely the kind of information that is appropriate for the lead of an article about a pop song.Trumpetrep (talk) 05:38, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: It would help if the Real Book (and Lead sheet (is that pronounced led or leed?)) articles included more citations. Both are currently written as essays set in their own worlds, making it difficult to judge their wider significance and therefore the significance (if any) of this category. --Northernhenge (talk) 19:38, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
- :Your point is well-taken. I am adding some sources to it now.Trumpetrep (talk) 22:40, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Pages using infobox deity with color param ==
:* Propose deleting :Category:Pages using infobox deity with color param
:Nominator's rationale: dose not track anything useful PharaohCrab (talk) 14:11, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
::Comment It may be in use behind the scenes. ("This is a tracking category. It is used to build and maintain a list or lists of pages—primarily for the sake of the lists themselves and their use in article and category maintenance. It is not part of the encyclopedia's categorization scheme.") --Northernhenge (talk) 20:44, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
::Keep; there are 65 articles in the category - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 03:11, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
::* How is that relevant? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:18, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
- Lean support, I have the impression that the purpose of most tracking categories has been forgotten and this is probably one of them. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:21, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete redundant; https://bambots.brucemyers.com/TemplateParam.php?wiki=enwiki&template=Infobox+deity provides the same (and more) information. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:47, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
== Category:Craven District ==
:* Propose renaming :Category:Craven District to :Category:Craven, Yorkshire
:Nominator's rationale: The local government “district” has been abolished. The geographic/cultural area is ancient (see Craven in the Domesday Book) so membership of the category still has significance. I was going to suggest Craven, England but – given the existence of other Cravens in England, I’m suggesting Craven, Yorkshire (even though historically it extended beyond the county boundary). Northernhenge (talk) 12:32, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. The distict may have been abolished, but did exist and the things categorised here were part of it. The fact the district no longer exists doesn't change that. - The Bushranger One ping only 03:10, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- :*Agreed, the category remains defining and should be kept, but I’m not convinced Craven District is still the best name for it. It's not just a former local authority district, it's a live part of Yorkshire. --Northernhenge (talk) 10:13, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- Rename as nominated with a redirect; the contents of this category are largely timeless articles on places and there's no clear reason to categorize them under an obsolete name. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:34, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
== Category:Israel–Hamas war ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Rename * Pppery * it has begun... 23:05, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose renaming :Category:Israel–Hamas war to :Category:Gaza war
::* Propose renaming :Category:Misinformation in the Israel–Hamas war to :Category:Misinformation in the Gaza war (added 4 June)
::* Propose renaming :Category:Impacts of the Israel–Hamas war to :Category:Impacts of the Gaza war
::* Propose renaming :Category:Israel–Hamas war protests by country to :Category:Gaza war protests by country
::* Propose renaming :Category:Israel–Hamas war protests in France to :Category:Gaza war protests in France
::* Propose renaming :Category:Israel–Hamas war protests in Israel to :Category:Gaza war protests in Israel
::* Propose renaming :Category:Israel–Hamas war protests in the United Kingdom to :Category:Gaza war protests in the United Kingdom
::* Propose renaming :Category:Israel–Hamas war protests in the United States to :Category:Gaza war protests in the United States
::* Propose renaming :Category:2023 massacres of the Israel–Hamas war to :Category:2023 massacres of the Gaza war
::* Propose renaming :Category:2024 massacres of the Israel–Hamas war to :Category:2024 massacres of the Gaza war
::* Propose renaming :Category:2025 massacres of the Israel–Hamas war to :Category:2025 massacres of the Gaza war
::* Propose renaming :Category:Domestic reactions to the Israel–Hamas war to :Category:Domestic reactions to the Gaza war
::* Propose renaming :Category:War crimes in the Israel–Hamas war to :Category:War crimes in the Gaza war
::* Propose renaming :Category:Israeli war crimes in the Israel–Hamas war to :Category:Israeli war crimes in the Gaza war
::* Propose renaming :Category:Health professionals killed in the Israel–Hamas war to :Category:Health professionals killed in the Gaza war
::* Propose renaming :Category:Attacks in the Israel–Hamas war to :Category:Attacks in the Gaza war
::* Propose renaming :Category:Military operations of the Israel–Hamas war to :Category:Military operations of the Gaza war
::* Propose renaming :Category:Attacks on hospitals during the Israel–Hamas war to :Category:Attacks on hospitals during the Gaza war
::* Propose renaming :Category:Attacks on refugee camps during the Israel–Hamas war to :Category:Attacks on efugee camps during the Gaza war
::* Propose renaming :Category:Attacks on schools during the Israel–Hamas war to :Category:Attacks on schools during the Gaza war
::* Propose renaming :Category:Terrorist attacks in the Israel–Hamas war to :Category:Terrorist attacks in the Gaza war
::* Propose renaming :Category:Violations of medical neutrality during the Israel–Hamas war to :Category:Violations of medical neutrality during the Gaza war
:Nominator's rationale: To match main article's title per WP:C2D and WP:CONSUB. Skemous (talk) 02:42, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- Alt rename to :Category:Gaza War (2024–present) since there was also a Gaza War (2008–2009). Marcocapelle (talk) 04:56, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- :WP:C2D prevails here. Speedy rename per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 22:02, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- :* It does not prevail. Speedy criteria can be overruled in full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:32, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
- :*:Fair enough. NLeeuw (talk) 17:52, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
- :why couldn't the current category include 2008-2009 page as well? amplifying its scope. Skemous (talk) 17:18, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- :* Because it are two different wars. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:25, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- :** Note: There is also :Category:2014 Gaza War. The parent :Category:Gaza–Israel conflict includes 3 wars. – Fayenatic London 11:25, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- :Support, but I thought this Gaza War started in 2023... - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 03:10, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
- Support per nomination. Achmad Rachmani (talk) 22:01, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Relisting because some subcats were tagged but not linked to the nomination. – Fayenatic London 11:02, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Fayenatic London 11:02, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Note: There are more subcats than this; I have only added the ones that had already been tagged by an anon editor. The remainder can be processed later as Speedy, unless anybody wants to add them all now. – Fayenatic London 17:37, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Support/Comment I would have !voted differently on the WP:RM discussion on the article talk page, especially the lower case "w". But I don't want to second guess formal decisions made by consensus in other venues. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:10, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
- Support. Although there have been many conflicts involving Israel in the Gaza area as early as 1948 and 1956, the current conflict is like no other in terms of length, casualties and significance. The name of the Gaza war article is not recentism, it acknowledges that, and it is most probably here to stay. Although that debate would above all be a question for a RM at the article's talk page, there is no reason to deviate from article title here. Place Clichy (talk) 17:34, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Margaret Hoover ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * it has begun... 23:05, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{lc|Margaret Hoover}}
:Nominator's rationale: No rationale whatsoever for an eponymous Category with only one other article aside from the main article. Anomalous+0 (talk) 09:52, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, the two articles are already directly interconnected. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:35, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per Anomalous+0. -SusanLesch (talk) 14:37, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
- :Delete per above. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 23:34, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Philippines–the Gambia relations ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * it has begun... 23:05, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{lc|Philippines–the Gambia relations}}
:Nominator's rationale: We already have the correctly named :Category:The Gambia–Philippines relations. DB1729talk 09:35, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:36, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to avoid confusion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luke1437 (talk • contribs) 17:56, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Laos–France relations ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * it has begun... 23:05, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{lc|Laos–France relations}}
:Nominator's rationale: We already have the correctly named :Category:France–Laos relations DB1729talk 09:02, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:47, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Place Clichy (talk) 18:48, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
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== Accidents by continent ==
:* Propose deleting :Category:Accidents by continent (7 C)
:* Propose deleting :Category:Accidents in Africa (1 C)
:* Propose deleting :Category:Accidents in Asia (1 C)
:* Propose deleting :Category:Accidents in Europe (1 C, 3 P); manually move articles to :Category:Accidents
:* Propose deleting :Category:Accidents in North America (1 C, 2 P); manually move articles to :Category:Accidents
:* Propose deleting :Category:Accidents in Oceania (1 C)
:* Propose deleting :Category:Accidents in South America (1 C)
:Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory each. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:01, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Sure, but adding individual articles to the extremely broad :Category:Accidents doesn't feel right; that feels like something that should be a fully diffused container category given how broad the term "accident" is. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:31, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
== Romanian military personnel ==
:* Propose merging :Category:15th-century Romanian military personnel to :Category:15th-century military personnel
:* Propose merging :Category:16th-century Romanian military personnel to :Category:16th-century military personnel
:* Propose merging :Category:17th-century Romanian military personnel to :Category:17th-century military personnel
:* Propose merging :Category:18th-century Romanian military personnel to :Category:18th-century military personnel
:Nominator's rationale: merge, as Romania is anachronistic. Wallachia and Moldavia merged to Romania in the 19th century and military personnel is typically categorized by country they are serving rather than by ethnicity or language. The Wallachian subcategories are perfectly fine in that respect. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:56, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
::Question: How does this work given that there's a parent category Category:18th-century Romanian people? I think having these by century cateogries is still helpful for navigation. SMasonGarrison 00:45, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
::* They articles still in the tree of :Category:18th-century Romanian people because they are in subcats :Category:18th-century Moldavian people and :Category:18th-century people from the Principality of Wallachia. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:52, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
:Comment: Similar arguments might apply to historically early members of :Category:Romanian women by century --Northernhenge (talk) 09:00, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
:* {{ping|Northernhenge}} good point, see Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2025_June_9#Pre-Romanian_women_by_century. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:23, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
== Category:15th-century men ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * it has begun... 23:05, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{lc|15th-century men}}
:* Propose deleting {{lc|15th-century men by occupation}}
:* Propose deleting {{lc|15th-century male writers}}
:Nominator's rationale: There's really no need to have male occupations this early. 15th-century men was deleted as a category here: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_November_12#Medieval_men SMasonGarrison 02:52, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:06, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:G4. WP:CATGENDER also applies: although female writers are of course a topic, for writers (or any profession for that matter) in the 15th century that have remained in memory, it is hardly noticeable to be a man, maybe unfortunately. Place Clichy (talk) 18:59, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
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