Wikipedia:Help desk/Archive 68#Dananeer Mobeen article request

Hi, I noticed 30+ accounts that are almost certainly sockpuppets of a user who has been long-term abusing Wikipedia. None of the blocked accounts have indication to who the sockpuppet master is, and while I'm familiar with opening a report per Wikipedia:Sockpuppet, this doesn't seem like a case to open an entirely new report when evidence of long-term abuse is there. Is there any way to find the sockpuppet master or somehow categorize all these accounts as suspected sockpuppets without knowing now who the sockpuppet master is? Thanks, Rosalina2427 ^(talk) 01:22, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:@Rosalina2427 I don't think I am qualified to answer your question, but if you click [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ActiveUsers&groups=checkuser&wpFormIdentifier=specialactiveusers here] then you'll find a list of active checkusers who can help. Polygnotus (talk) 01:27, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

::Well, it looks like I've gone down a deep rabbit hole and found the many suspected socks of BMX On WheeIs. I suppose there's no point in tagging any of the accounts as suspected sockpuppets when some are already flagged for LTA anyway and they're all blocked. Thanks anyway! Cheers, Rosalina2427 ^(talk) 02:02, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

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Someone uses Qur'an and Qur'anic in Umrain Mahfooz Rahmani. Should we change it to Quran and Quranic? I looked at MOS:QURAN and while it does mention the Quran, without apostrophe, it is concerned with italicization not apostrophes. Polygnotus (talk) 10:33, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

:I think there are some discussions on Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Arabic but no strong consensus one way or the other. I would just leave it. Alpha3031 (t • c) 11:42, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you. Yeah if its just personal preference then I'll leave it as is. Polygnotus (talk) 01:24, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

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So I got hired to edit a page on here and I think I messed up.. how does this page get published? It’s all facts and I did include the numbers! Trustnation (talk) 07:29, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

:User:Trustnation totally fails Wikipedia guidelines. A user page is not an article, and if this was submitted as a draft article it would fail here as well. If you have been hired or paid to write this, then you are in a conflict of interest situation.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:37, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

::thank you I’ll just go hide under the rock I came out of Trustnation (talk) 07:44, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

:I take it you are referring to the material you have posted at User:Trustnation. There is no possibility whatsoever of that getting published as an article. Wikipedia is not an advertising platform, and we have little interest in what a company says about itself. Articles must be based primarily on what independent reliable sources have to say on the subject. I suggest you start by reading the following:

:Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure

:Wikipedia:Conflict of interest

:Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)

:Wikipedia:Neutral point of view

:Wikipedia:Reliable sources

:You should then read Help:Your first article, and, after making the necessary disclosure, create a draft, and submit it for review. AndyTheGrump (talk) 07:44, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

::apologizing a million times * Trustnation (talk) 07:45, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

::I appreciate your feedback god bless Trustnation (talk) 07:46, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

:::@Trustnation, {{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} ColinFine (talk) 10:50, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

:AndyTheGrump is right. Of the five pages you've been pointed to, read Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) first. It explains that a large percentage of companies simply aren't notable (as defined here), and thus can't have articles. Proceed only if you're certain that you can demonstrate the notability of Electrustcity LLC. If you are, then what you have to do before writing anything about the company is described in Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure. Incidentally, although you're paid to describe Electrustcity, Ianmacm, AndyTheGrump, I, and most of the other people hereabouts aren't paid to do anything on Wikipedia. A look at your deleted advert for Electrustcity suggests that you know nothing of matters such as how text is formatted here. Really, figuring out how to do this kind of thing is your job, not ours. Once you've created a non-promotional, well referenced, and generally solid draft, people here are likelier to help you with remaining glitches. -- Hoary (talk) 08:32, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi: Layperson Wiki user here. Please consider.... Adding history of Enrollment counts for Colleges and Universities. Why? Given enrollment challenges today, those numbers have relevance. Any value? Absolutely. Aggregate Enrollment History for most Colleges and Universities is all but impossible to find quickly. Wiki pages holding that history would be a huge plus for users. Thank you for considering. All the best! 50.52.121.3 (talk) 19:34, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

:You can make such requests at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:16, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

We kindly request that the reviewed version of the article "AAM Consulting" be updated to match the content we previously submitted, which currently appears only in the unreviewed version.

The submitted content complies with Wikipedia's standards and offers a more accurate and up-to-date overview. We would appreciate your support in making it the official reviewed version.

The exact name of the article that I wish to discuss is: AAM Consulting, you can find the URL here:

:hu:AAM_Consulting

Thank you for your assistance. Bettina.aam (talk) 07:21, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

: That article is on the Hungarian-language Wikipedia (hu.wikipedia); this is the English-language Wikipedia (en.wikipedia). The two are run independently of each other. You will need to ask on the Hungarian project. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:34, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

I recently created the page for the Global Student Forum. While creating the page, the cite source function stopped working, and it seemed like the only way to avoid losing my progress was to publish it unfinished and make subsequent edits to the page, which put it at risk of being swarmed by other users in its unfinished state. Sure enough, a user named Sumanuil put a banner on it alleging that the page contains promotional content. I cited sources for factual claims, tried to write in a neutral tone, and am not affiliated with the organization. I edited the text to remove what could be misconstrued as promotional, but the banner has remained. I posted a request for clarification on Sumanuil's Talk page, but Sumanuil removed this without providing any clarification.

I have been a Wikipedian for over ten years. The Wikipedia I have come to know is a toxic, insular group that is hostile to new and less experienced users. On multiple occasions, I have seen knowledge erased on minute technicalities that could have easily been ameliorated with dialogue and collaboration. Please do not let the Global Student Forum page be another example to further reinforce what I have reluctantly perceived. You can see the timestamps on the Global Student Forum page to see the time I put into creating it and researching the sources. I want to be compliant. I just need clarification and assistance. For historical purposes (talk) 18:05, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

:The requirement that Wikipedia articles be primarily based around what independent sources have to say on the subject, rather than citations to the subject's own website etc, isn't a 'minute technicality'. In my opinion, the 'promotional' banner is still justified. As for difficulties with editing, you have the option of using your sandbox, which should ensure you can publish the article only when you consider it complete. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:36, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @For historical purposes.

:Several portions of the article are based on the GSF's own publications.

:{{HD/WINI}}

:The presence of text that is clearly what the subject wants to say about itself is what makes it promotional.

:If you have been around for ten years, I would expect you to know that the way disagreements get resolved is by engaging with the other parties, not by appealing for support in another forum. Please see WP:DR. ColinFine (talk) 18:36, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

::Though I agree with everything said above and that the tag should stay, I would like to note that For historical purposes did ask Sumanuil on their talk page, which was promptly reverted. I can see why the message may be interpreted as perhaps vandal spam, but I think the revert was uncivil and unjustified on Sumanuil's part. GoldRomean (talk) 18:40, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

::The article is entirely promotional, I have removed chunks of promotional text supoported only by primary sources, but it appears that there is nothing salveagable, Wikipedia articles are based on what reliable independent sources have reported on a topic NOT what the topics website says! Theroadislong (talk) 19:08, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

:@For historical purposes: Since many of the users above have said what I wanted to say, I'll add that you may want to consider the use of the {{tl|in use}} and {{tl|under construction}} templates if you want other editors to be aware that an article is being worked on at the moment if you're concerned about it {{tq|being swarmed by other users in its unfinished state}}. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:40, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

:This is the first time I received actual guidance from other users on how to create pages. I appreciate the clarifications. However, it is too bad that the page is now recommended for deletion before it could be fixed by adding independent sources and rewriting the removed sections. For historical purposes (talk) 23:34, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

::If you can fix it in the next few days, I may consider changing my vote. Best, GoldRomean (talk) 00:04, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

::A welcome message was left on your talk page in 2013; it included a link to Wikipedia:How to write a great article. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:50, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

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How many days/months should messages on an article's talk page be archived if one implements the automatic archiving bot? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 10:05, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:This really needs to be decided on a case-by-case basis, looking at factors such as whether the subject is currently in the news or going viral, how much discussion it's generating on the talk page, and whether the article is being heavily edited. ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 10:12, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:I use 30 days ({{para|algo|old(28d)}}) as a default, but leave a minimum of four threads visible ({{para|minthreadsleft|4}}; that has the added advantage of maintaining a ToC). Remember that this "days since last new comment", not since the thread started,

:I've set it to as low as 2 days, but manually archived even sooner than that, for breaking news such as the recent new Pope.

:See also WP:BIKESHED. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:36, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thanks. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 11:39, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

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I just created Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zubair Ahmad Quraishi using Twinkle, but for some reason the AfD template didn't subst itself. It's not broken or anything, and the wikitext is sitting there like it's plaintext. Did I mess something up? [[User:CanonNi]] (talk • contribs) 10:53, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:Nevermind, I forgot to type closing brackets. That's why we preview, kids... [[User:CanonNi]] (talk • contribs) 10:54, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

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Hi all,

I'm attempting to cite a briefing/email forwarded to an Industry Compliance Committee by an official from the Australian Treasury. To clarify, this is not a primary source, but rather a directive that is not otherwise available as a commentary on the government page. Is there any specific format for this, or any template through which a reference provide more clarity? Any help would be appreciated.

All the best - CSGinger14 (talk) 03:34, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:Reverse that. It's an email from the compliance committee to the Treasury. Not sure if that changes anything. The information I'm drawing in either case isn't based off of personal assessments made by the committee, which is professional and independently governed (Edit: Have since block-cited personal assessments, noting them as such in the deliberation). CSGinger14 (talk) 03:45, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

::Hello, {{u|CSGinger14}}. Wikipedia summarizes published sources, so the question is whether an email is "published". I do not think so. In WP:Published, it says {{tpq|It is necessary for the information to be made available to the public in general, not just to individuals or selected groups of people.}} Emails (unless later duplicated in a published source) are, by their very nature, intended only for individuals or selected groups, not the general public. I believe that your example is a primary source, and that the email should only be mentioned on Wikipedia if it was later analyzed and interpreted by reliable secondary sources. Cullen328 (talk) 04:52, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Hi @Cullen328. I appreciate your response. The source discussed, this document [https://treasury.gov.au/sites/default/files/2023-02/c2022-338372-bnpl_code_compliance_committee.pdf here] has explicitly been released to the public for the purpose of transparency and public knowledge. It is a submission in response to a Treasury department inquiry on regulation of the sphere, intended to be made open to both government and public observers to ensure guidelines are followed and consumer protections remain open and veritable. WP: Primary sources states that some primary sources are acceptable in the event that they come from a professional, disputable, and verifiable source, which I'm fairly confident a closely watched Australian oversight committee qualifies for, especially given that it was not published as a part of private inquiry. The submission is effectively the department's form of response, other publications exist which discuss the committee's work, but unless someone can find the report it cites, I'm otherwise at a loss for how to properly and accurately discuss the issue. My use of the source is primarily intended to provide a detailing of the framework of the committee's work, its responsibilities, and the steps it has taken to comply with Australian regulation.

:::Thank you for help and insight. If you have any advice on how to cite the source regardless, or can point to specific policies which override the points made above, I'd be happy to hear them. Otherwise, all the best - CSGinger14 (talk) 05:18, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

::::{{u|CSGinger14}}, I will repeat my opinion that it would be more appropriate to cite coverage by reliable secondary published sources that analyze and interpret this email. Otherwise, how can a Wikipedia editor determine that this particular intergovernmental email deserves discussion on Wikipedia as opposed to any one of countless billions of other emails? Cullen328 (talk) 05:41, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::@Cullen328, there are no secondary sources that seem to be reporting on the Compliance Committee's commentary on the use of a loan service that has now been used by more than a third of Australians, half of Americans, and a broad portion of the larger global population. I'm not arguing that you're wrong that a secondary source would be better, but there is a reason why the site allows for the use of primary sources in certain cases. I'm not interpreting anything, I'm writing down exactly what they said (as close as can be for certain citations to avoid plagiarism). I only refer to strictly administrative information apart from a quote of their surmising of the body's responsibilities. There are many among those billions of emails that I imagine do in fact qualify under the site's interpretation of primary source qualification, and I contend that this is one of them.

:::::Best - CSGinger14 (talk) 06:13, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::{{u|CSGinger14}}, if there are no secondary sources covering and analyzing and interpreting the importance of this email, then the material does not belong on Wikipedia. You are advancing an argument that "it's important". That is not a judgment for Wikipedia editors to make. That is not our role. That is a judgment that the authors and editorial staff of actual published reliable sources must make. We are just a bunch of mostly anonymous volunteers. Cullen328 (talk) 06:22, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::::@Cullen328 Respectfully, I don't appreciate accusations. I'm advancing the expansion of information around a topic of importance that a particular piece of writing is not necessarily considered a topic of importance within, despite it providing reliable/verifiable information that is pertinent to a person's understanding of the topic. There are at least 10 sources that I can reference right now from the topic at hand that discusses this very particular issue, my point is that there isn't one that says how the body is organized, because that is necessarily the sort of information that would only reasonably need to come from the body itself. You are advancing claims based on a judgement you've made of the character of my edits without making a serious attempt to understand or fairly represent my claim, which is unfair and which I do not appreciate. This isn't WP:Advocacy, this is me attempting to uphold the very same set of guidelines you feel discredit me.

:::::::CSGinger14 (talk) 06:39, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::::To add, I have added it. There are several paragraphs worth of evidence on the topic that have been added with sourcing and commentary specific to Australia. Unfortunately, secondary sources can only take you so far so much of the time. Sometimes, it's necessary to refer to primary sources to fully contextualize an issue as part of a broader description. News sources and business commentary don't always feel the need to include the minute details in the interest of the general reader. Sometimes, and only occasionally, they provide additional referencing within the article to expand on readers' understanding. Unfortunately, this is not always enough. A primary goal of this site is to go beyond the interests of the general reader, and to be able to provide a complete and accurate portrait of issues of note and importance to readers at even the most advanced level. After a certain point, this requires some degree of primary sourcing, and it's use does not always imply that an editor is actively attempting to violate WP:Original Research policy. There is a reason why the use of primary sources is left open to some degree of interpretation. The general rule is meant to be used to prevent misleading readers on account of poorly performed editor synthesis. I have not done that here, or any synthesis of it for that matter, and regardless, this should not immediately be used to exclusively prevent primary sources' use.

::::::::CSGinger14 (talk) 06:51, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::::@Cullen328 And to return to your earlier point, why doesn't belong on Wikipedia? If it provides relevant (dated) information on the topic at hand that hasn't otherwise been discussed by a secondary source, shouldn't it be used? It is dangerous to assume that someone, eventually, will write something about it or record it otherwise. This one, thankfully, will, because it's a government publication. But that's how nearly [https://www.pewresearch.org/data-labs/2024/05/17/when-online-content-disappears/ 25% of websites got lost] between 2013 and 2023. The fact of information coming from a primary source does not automatically refute it, that is based on a narrowly focused interpretation of administrative procedure that I have found is widespread on this website, where bad intention or ignorance is assumed without any real consideration of the merit of the information itself, simply its coverage elsewhere. Withholding that information has as much potential to mislead readers as additions based on unreliable* primary sources. That seems to be in contrast and relative opposition to the goal that everyone act in good faith, not only towards other users, but towards the website more broadly. Sometimes, that means that interpretation is justified. On other occasions, it very clearly doesn't, but there is a widespread hesitancy to accept primary sources' use, despite the fact that the site allows them. We deem genuinely important information disreputable based on narrow interpretations of site guidelines, and suddenly it disappears, and no one gets to be the secondary source to comment on it anymore, because it's gone. It expands readers understanding, and nothing about its use is misleading or inaccurate. It is noted as a submission to the Treasury Department, no other description other than its metadata was provided. I'll seek to find another source, but quite frankly that kind of reasoning appears equally if not more dangerous to the pursuit of advancing public knowledge as the potential threat you perceive to the site's integrity from the use of such sources.

::::::::CSGinger14 (talk) 07:02, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

{{od}}{{u|CSGinger14}}, what accusations? I accused you of nothing more than being a volunteer Wikipedia editor, which I also accuse myself of. You came here and asked a question and I gave my opinion based on my 16 years of experience. You disagreed. I tried to clarify. And so on. You have not persuaded me and I have not persuaded you. That's OK. Making your point repeatedly at greater length and detail does not make your point more persuasive. I am not trying to "refute" this particular information. I am simply expressing my opinion of whether or not it is appropriate for use as a citation on this encyclopedia. No more, no less. So let's both move on. Cullen328 (talk) 07:35, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:Sorry, experience dealing previously with another editor made me hostile on contact. Reasonable request and one I'll follow, thanks for your time, and genuinely my apologies. Speaks to the times were living in ig, very tense feeling everywhere you go, didn't mean to rub that off on anyone here. Keep well - CSGinger14 (talk) 08:03, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

::@Cullen328

::CSGinger14 (talk) 08:03, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

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I need help changing the title of a page from Margaret Spencer, Countess Spencer to Margaret Spencer, Viscountess Althorp

Reason: The current title is incorrect. Margaret Spencer never held the title Countess Spencer during her lifetime, she was known as Viscountess Althorp. Thank you! ItsShandog (talk) 16:11, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:Please see WP:RM. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:26, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

I recently completed the upgrading of an English starter article to B level. It is called the Bombardment of Greytown. Because it is a history piece set in Central America, I would like to bring my version to the attention of the Spanish editors who created the Spanish version of the original article.

I thought the best and least intrusive way to do this, would be to do a translation that would not overwrite any of their established article. So I thought I would create a sandbox for it and invite them on the talk page of their article to visit my sandbox and see if they might want to incorporate some or all of the translation into their Spanish version of the article.

What do you think?

~~~~ Will-DubDub (talk) 05:06, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

:Why translate it? How about just leaving a note on (currently blank) :es:Discusión:Bombardeo de Greytown about the recent augmentation of :en:Bombardment of Greytown? -- Hoary (talk) 05:28, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

::You could also inform the editor who created and wrote most of the Spanish article on their en or es talk page. TSventon (talk) 06:21, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

: Middleton family

Please fix - I cannot do this!

Ref number 17 is the same as ref number 41

and Ref number 18 is the same as ref number 42

Please make these "double up".

Thank you Srbernadette (talk) 23:46, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

Please fix - I cannot do this!

Ref number 17 is the same as ref number 41

and Ref number 18 is the same as ref number 42

Please make these "double up" if you can.

Thank you again115.70.23.77 (talk) 03:24, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

:Please see, read, and implement Help:Footnotes#Footnotes:_using_a_source_more_than_once. And then, in your [when logged in] user page, add a link to Help:Footnotes#Footnotes:_using_a_source_more_than_once, for future use. -- Hoary (talk) 05:19, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

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I have tried again and again

This helpful line of advice:

Names must not be purely numeric; the software will accept something like ":31337" (which is punctuation plus a number), but it will ignore "31337" (purely numeric).

is what really confuses me.

I cannot do this effort - I don't have the technical skills and I am embarrassed to ask for help. Unfortunately I will let this go - someone in the future might do the "double up" of refs, but it will not be me.

Thank you again Srbernadette (talk) 06:55, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

:What's within the quotation marks of "31337" consists of nothing outside the set {0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9}. This isn't true of what's within the quotation marks of ":31337" (because the numerals are preceded by a colon, of course). Incidentally, I wonder about the accuracy of the advice above: Wikipedia "source" isn't (X)HTML, but it's based on it; and if I remember right, an ID in (X)HTML mustn't merely include something other than a numeral; rather, it must start with something other than a numeral. So, the needed skill: Provide one (and only one) reference like full details of the source and one or more other references like -- what particular technical skill is required? -- Hoary (talk) 07:09, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

:Perhaps that wasn't clear enough. For one source, it must be the same distinctive name. Thus for example if one has (a single instance of) {{Cite website| last1=Sørensen | first1=Knud | last2=Haislund | first2=Niels | date=1 August 2014 | title=Otto Jespersen | website=Dansk Biografisk Leksikon | access-date=12 May 2025 | url=https://biografiskleksikon.lex.dk/Otto_Jespersen | language=da}} then one also has one or more of . HTH! -- Hoary (talk) 07:59, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

:: I cannot do this - you are very patient, but I'm sorry. It is beyond me. 49.199.153.245 (talk) 10:13, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

I just noticed that my Wikipedia home page is showing the date as June 3, when my local time zone says June 2. I assume it's using GMT rather than Eastern Time. But I don't know how to reset the time/date, or even where to go.

Any help would be appreciated. 2600:1700:846A:190:30A8:F5E1:B88D:2A91 (talk) 01:16, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

:If you have an account...{{myprefs|Appearance|Time zone|}} Moxy🍁 01:52, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

::The English Wikipedia uses UTC which is similar to GMT. The above setting only affects logs like page histories and user contributions. Main Page displays the same date to everybody. If you have an account then I'm not sure which clock you refer to. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:39, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

I am a New York based photographer. I have to photographic composite murals in the Peter Cooper post office, on permanent display. I would like to upload photographs of the murals, their titles and a brief synopsis of their subject matter. I do not know how to write computer code. How would I go about accomplishing this? Addthomp (talk) 02:09, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

:Pls review Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. Feel free to come back here if you have more questions. Moxy🍁 02:39, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

:Thank you for asking, Addthomp. Coding wouldn't be necessary; reading will be. You'd have to start by finding out whether the murals fall into the public domain (in the legal sense of this term). For what is and isn't in the public domain in the US, please read :c:Commons:Copyright rules by territory/United States. Start by assuming that the murals aren't in the public domain; look for incontrovertible evidence that they do (and be ready to cite this evidence). If, and only if, they are demonstrably in the public domain, then you may upload your photographs of them to Wikimedia Commons. (Each time, you'd have to attach an appropriate US public domain template.) These photographs of yours would themselves be in the public domain (see Bridgeman Art Library v. Corel Corp.). If the murals are not in the public domain, then your options are very much more limited (see Wikipedia:Non-free content). I note that the article United States Post Office (Cooper Station) says that the building they're in "was built in 1937"; I'm assuming that the murals weren't moved in from elsewhere and thus are no older than 1937. -- Hoary (talk) 06:53, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

::I upload a photograph and title. I upload the wrong photograph with that title. Where does the image go when I upload it? I went to the Peter Cooper webpage and I don't see the photograph? Now I need to delete that submission. Addthomp (talk) 11:24, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

:::You have uploaded no images to Wikipedia. You have uploaded one image to our sibling project, Wikimedia Commons, at :c:File:Moses on the Hudson River. 2008.jpg.

:::Presumably, you did so using :c:Special:UploadWizard; leastways, that's the best place to make uploads in future. It will guide you through the process.

:::If you tried to upload anything else, and were logged in, the upload did not complete. Please try again, using the link I provided. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:57, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

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: The Imitation Game

Ref. number 117 is in red. Please fix if you can. Thank you Srbernadette (talk) 03:00, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:Srbernadette, that is a problem within what is very likely the longest footnote I have ever encountered anywhere in Wikipedia. I have a soft spot for lengthy footnotes, but this really is monstrous. More problematic is that it appears to quote, at enormous length, something published very recently. If this is, as I suppose, conventionally copyright ("All rights reserved"), then I suspect that the bulk of the quotation exceeds what copyright law normally permits. (However, I'm not particularly knowledgable about copyright law, and am open to being corrected.) Meanwhile, the technical glitch is trivial. What is now Washington, DC | October 9–11, 2025 Intelligence should instead be Washington, DC {{!}} October 9–11, 2025 Intelligence. -- Hoary (talk) 06:32, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

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Mdi 105.245.120.35 (talk) 06:59, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:Precisely what help are you asking for? (Though if it's for a particular article, better ask on that article's talk page.) -- Hoary (talk) 07:24, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:FWIW, we have no article called "medical digital intelligence" (with either spelling). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:26, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

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This article is make miss stake the location that's make both country got the dispute about temple , But the real the location is in Cambodia country

{{lang|th|:th:ปราสาทตาเมือนธม}}

Verify Address :

https://www.google.com/maps?ll=14.349167,103.266389&q=14.349167,103.266389&hl=en&t=m&z=15 ApichaDev (talk) 04:33, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:@ApichaDev: The article you're linking is in the Thai Wikipedia, which is a different project from the English Wikipedia. You will want to either discuss this on that article's talk page or whichever page at thWiki is the equivalent to this one. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:24, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

::So , Open the discuss must be thai Wikipedia page ? ApichaDev (talk) 06:07, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:::{{ping|ApichaDev}} Correct.

:::[automated translation] {{ping|ApichaDev}} ถูกต้องแล้วครับ. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 06:30, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:::You can start a discussion at {{lang|th|:th:พูดคุย:ปราสาทตาเมือนธม}} or {{lang|th|:th:วิกิพีเดีย:แผนกช่วยเหลือ}}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:36, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:::: I now see that there is an English version of the article, at Prasat Ta Muen Thom. It makes clear that the site is the subject of a border dispute. Google Maps is not a reliable source for resolving such issues. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:24, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

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Someone deleted the page "Denmark national under-19 football team". How can we create it again? 85.218.220.137 (talk) 18:57, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:You can gather independent reliable sources to summarize and demonstrate that the team is a notable organization; that doesn't seem likely which is why the article was turned into a redirect. 331dot (talk) 19:00, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

::All European countries has a specific article for their under-19 national football team, but someone deleted the article of the Denmark team.

::You can see the articles here:

:::Category:European national under-19 association football teams

::Please redirect this article for the "Denmark national under-19 team" again. 85.218.220.137 (talk) 19:48, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Hello, IP user. I have looked at three or four articles in the category you mention, and none of them is adequately sourced. (I have tagged them accordingly). I suspect that none of the teams meets Wikipedia's criteria for Notability, but I'm not interested enough to spend the time checking.

:::The article you are talking about was deleted, because somebody cared enough to look at it and decided that it was not adequately sourced, and that adequate sources do not exist. We have thousands and thousands of articles which are inadequate, and should be improved or deleted; but it is rare that somebody takes the time and effort to do so. But we do not evaluate articles against other articles: we evaluate them against our standards (which are more carefully applied than in the past): see other stuff exists.

:::If you want to look at some of those other articles and carry out the WP:BEFORE diligence, and either improve their sourcing or nominated them for deletion, that would improve Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 20:21, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

::::I have restored the article.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Denmark_national_under-19_football_team&diff=prev&oldid=1294260959] PrimeHunter (talk) 16:56, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

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This email and number are hacked please cancel the meta accounts. 185.6.149.222 (talk) 23:35, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:If you'd like something done at Wikimedia Meta, ask [https://meta.wikimedia.org/ there]. If you want something done at what used to be Facebook, ask that company. Whichever it is, if you want something done about an email address or some number, better specify what it is. -- Hoary (talk) 00:03, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

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: Antonio Amaya (boxer)

For context, see User_talk:Jeraxmoira#Antonio_Amaya. Is it okay to write whatever the author wants in a biography article, solely by citing a boxing records database that only contains scores and no additional context? Wouldn't this fall under WP:SYNTH? Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 14:07, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:Please resolve your dispute with the other editor by following the process outlined at WP:DR. This page is for generic editing support, not dispute resolution. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:20, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

::As you can see, there is no dispute at this point as it occurred a few months ago. I just want to know whether synthesizing from database records is allowed. If this is considered synthesizing, I might start an ANI thread when I have the time. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 16:42, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:::If you're thinking of starting an ANI thread, then the dispute is continuing; use WP:DR. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:45, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

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Is there any auto-updating template that takes a person's birth date and reports the age in years only? Wikipedia:Age calculation templates has plenty of templates, but they're a mix of age in other ways (e.g. age in days), age as of a certain date (so not auto-updating), age without a specific date, and {{tl|Birth date and age}}, which reports the birth date along with the age. I want to tweak Wikipedia:About, which says For over 24 years, editors have volunteered... and must be updated annually to avoid under-reporting the number of years. Ideally, {{tl|age}} would serve this rôle, but it doesn't appear to support a specific birth date, and I don't want to say For over 23-24 years, editors have volunteered... Nyttend (talk) 20:46, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{Age in years|2001-01-15}} → {{Age in years|2001-01-15}}?

:—Trappist the monk (talk) 22:12, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

::The documentation for {{tl|Age in years}} didn't say that full dates can be given. I have updated it.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Age_in_years/doc&diff=prev&oldid=1294308462] PrimeHunter (talk) 23:23, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

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At Dickey's Barbecue Pit, three different accounts have been removing the same thing a few times, with similar edit summaries. The oldest of the three has been blocked. This looks pretty suspicious, but I haven't had experience with this before, so where do we discuss stuff like this? Weeklyd3 (talk) 23:43, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:You could try Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations. TSventon (talk) 00:23, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

::Blocked the two newer ones and tagged for puppetry. DMacks (talk) 03:55, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

:::{{u|Weeklyd3}}, Dickey's Barbecue Pit has been subjected to three days of attempted whitewashing by sockpuppets after the New York Times published an investigative article critical of the chain's franchising practices. I have semi-protected our article for one week. Cullen328 (talk) 07:18, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

::::Thanks for the investigation and action. DMacks (talk) 14:13, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

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I tried to add more numbers to the list of Pythagorean Primes in the sequence A002144 of OEIS that ends with the number 617, but the edit option does not work. I would like to add more of these primes to the list. Morwizzy1 (talk) 05:46, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

:There is really no need for more, the one’s given are sufficient. Where would you stop? Maungapohatu (talk) 05:56, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

:The sentence specifically says "The first few Pythagorean primes are...". Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:03, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello,

I am trying to log in to my Wikimedia account, but I am being prompted to enter a verification code that was supposedly sent to my email address. Unfortunately, I am either not receiving the email or no longer have access to that email account.

Could you please assist me in one of the following ways:

Resend the verification code to a different or updated email address, or

Help me regain access to my account through an alternative method.

Here are the details of my account:

Username: [Hichem algerino] 41.108.174.146 (talk) 16:33, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, Hichem. If you are logged into the account from somewhere, you should be able to update the email address to one you do have access to. Unfortunately, if you are not logged on and do not have access to the email set for it, then there is no way to recover your account. You'll need to create a new one - I suggest that then you note on the User pages of both accounts that you are Hichem algerino under a new name. ColinFine (talk) 17:01, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

::Did you get a response to this? I'm in a similar situation and locked out of my account, despite having access to what I thought was the email address on record 23.127.164.51 (talk) 18:40, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Links: Gold Rush (TV series), Jesse D. Goins, Jesse Goins (redirect)

Hi. After watching a show on the internet, I went to look for information about a person called Jesse Goins, who was part of a TV series called Gold Rush: Dave Turin's Lost Mine. Upon going to the page with his name, I was redirected to a page about an actor called Jesse D. Goins, who is not the same person.

I was thinking of changing the redirect into a disambiguation, and including Jesse Goins, directing users to the page about that show. Since I don't want to screw the redirect up, can someone please advise me on how to change a redirect into a disambiguation page please? A search reveals that the show (Gold Rush) does have its own article, and Jesse Goins is mentioned in the subsection relating to the version I mentioned.

Thanks for your advice and help. Dane|Geld 18:51, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hey there,

:If you get redirected, you should see "(Redirected from [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jesse_Goins&redirect=no Jesse Goins])" underneath the page title in the top-left corner of the article.

:Clicking on the name will take you to the redirect page without you being redirected again. From there, you should be able to click to edit the page as normal.

:You'll want to completely remove what's there, and then use the Human name disambiguation template. ···sardonism · t · c 19:10, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

:I am not convinced that a disambiguation page is needed, per Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Primary topic with only one other topic, you could add a hatnote to Jesse D. Goins. TSventon (talk) 19:16, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

:Looking at the Gold Rush article it appears the Jesse Goins in question here was only present for that single specific spin-off series (and possibly only mentioned because of his death), making me question the utility of adding a hatnote for someone that not many people are going to be trying to find on Wikipedia. Amstrad00 (talk) 19:25, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello! I'm hoping for some help with my account. Login user ID is "essness" when I try to reset, no email is sent to reset. I do have a prior email from Wikipedia at that address, which seems to confirm that it's the one on file. Is there anyway to get help with this? 23.127.164.51 (talk) 18:39, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hi there,

:Sorry to hear you're having trouble signing in!

:It seems that there's no account with the username Essness.

:Could you double-check the spelling?

:Alternatively, you mention an email from Wikipedia - this may contain one or more link(s) that would help to verify your account name. ···sardonism · t · c 18:42, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

:If you tried to get a password recovery email and it didn't work, there is no other way to regain access to your account. You may create a new one and identify it as a successor to your old account. 331dot (talk) 18:42, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

:Remember that (as far as I know) Account names are case sensitive: is it possible that you capitalised one or more letters of "essness"? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.192.228.242 (talk) 18:49, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

::Account names are case sensitive except for the intial character which is automatically capitalized if it's a letter. Could it be User:Esness? The account was created in 2016 and only has one edit to Maneesh which was later deleted. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:03, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

:::What about User:EssNess? Fabrickator (talk) 21:28, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Under the subheading Babe Paley#Style, there appears to be a coding problem with the thumbnail for image :File:KN-C19647. First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy's Tea for the Special Committee for White House Paintings.jpg. The thumbnail is displaying a "broken" icon. (I've tried several different web browsers). Muzilon (talk) 10:47, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{ping|Muzilon}} It works for me. Is it still broken for you? PrimeHunter (talk) 11:26, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

::Yes, the thumbnail won't display on my MacBook, nor in the Wikipedia app on my (Android) cellphone. No issue with the other images in the Babe Paley bio, just that group photo. Muzilon (talk) 11:36, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

:::{{ping|PrimeHunter}} Addenda: OK, this is weird - I just tried Tor and a proxy, and the thumbnail did display properly. I've replicated the problem by adding the thumbnail to my Sandbox. It would seem this may be a problem with my ISP, although I don't know why it would just affect this particular image. On further experimentation, I note that two of the extracted images listed on the source image's Commons page are broken for me too. Muzilon (talk) 11:56, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

::::{{ping|Muzilon}} Some ISP's use caching. They may have tried to cache it at a time where it was broken or they couldn't connect to it, but ISP caching may not be possible when Wikimedia uses https. It's also possible you reach another Wikimedia server via Tor. I'm in Denmark, Europe. One of the extracts is broken for me: :File:Jacqueline Kennedy and James W. Fosburgh (cropped).jpg works on the file page but the extract tries to load the 250px version https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Jacqueline_Kennedy_and_James_W._Fosburgh_(cropped).jpg/250px-Jacqueline_Kennedy_and_James_W._Fosburgh_(cropped).jpg which says "Error Too Many Requests". PrimeHunter (talk) 12:36, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::Yes, I can reproduce that issue too. I get a Wikimedia error message "Our servers are currently under maintenance or experiencing a technical issue". For the record, I'm in New Zealand. Muzilon (talk) 23:54, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

What should I do with sources that have broken SWFs (that are the main source of info)? What should I mark the source as? There's some sources on a page I'm editing that Ruffle is unable to load the SWF for at all with a CORS policy, and another source that just says the SWF is invalid. Should I remove the source, should I mark it as dead (some are already marked as usurped and use the Wayback Machine) KamiraMV (talk) 02:58, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:Also, how do I update a source to use the Wayback Machine instead of the normal url (a few sources just redirect to a homepage) KamiraMV (talk) 02:59, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:: The simplest method is with this tool: https://iabot.wmcloud.org/index.php?page=runbotsingle -- Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 08:29, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Can you list any topics I can write an article on that would have enough information on published, or reliable sources? I created 2 articles but both weren't approved mainly because the information came from non-approved sources. Anyways, I couldn't really find approved info because there wasn't enough information on the subject. Rafaelthegreat (talk) 23:59, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

:Try Wikipedia:Requested articles? Muzilon (talk) 00:28, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:I suggest that you don't bother with Wikipedia:Requested articles, Rafaelthegreat. From the point of view of an encyclopedia, a high percentage of its content is -- why mince words? -- junk.

:John Chillingworth has just died; [https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2025/may/31/john-chillingworth-obituary here]'s an obituary. Search engines offer more.

:"But I'm not interested in this John chill-whatever fellow!"

:Didn't think you would be. Whatever the subject, the great majority of people wouldn't be sufficiently interested in it to want to go through the laborious process of searching for info, reading it, digesting it, summarizing it, identifying what comes from where, copyediting their work, adding links, etc. So what are you interested in? Go to the talk page of a relevant "WikiProject", and offer your services. -- Hoary (talk) 00:40, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

::Oh I never knew that. Thanks! Rafaelthegreat (talk) 02:14, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:::One note of caution is that many wikiprojects are inactive or hardly active (check their talk pages) and their members may or may not have ideas for new articles that could be written.

:::I see one of your drafts was a female biography: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red is an active project. TSventon (talk) 15:44, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Good day!

I spend my whole evening editing the article on "Compound Interest". I added loads of citations and even added in useful formulas for calculating EAR (effective annual rate both generic and an actual example) with citations to support it. I definitely saved it, but it isn't appearing in my contribution list nor is it appearing in Wikipedia's "view history tab." Is this because my amendments are currently being reviewed? More clarification will be much appreciated so that this doesn't happen again as it will be a waste of my time and efforts. The page link to this article is Compound interest. I really appreciate your feedback regarding this issue I have faced. Many thanks and kind regards M.R. Maz009 (talk) 19:56, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @Maz009. If you spent a long time on a single edit, then it's possible that the session grew "stale", and it didn't save - though I think you'd have got an error message. Are you sure that didn't happen?

:I'm afraid that if it didn't save, then your edit is gone - unless perhaps it is saved in your browser: perhaps a "back" will find it? ColinFine (talk) 20:05, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

::{{ping|Maz009}} Special:EditRecovery also works in some situations if the feature is already enabled. You aren't autoconfirmed yet so when you add external links there is a captcha step after clicking publish. Other things like filter hits can also cause extra steps. New users sometimes misunderstand something and think their edit is already saved. The software does work and it doesn't happen to experienced users so I hope you stick around. If a save goes through then the url should change to start with en.wikipedia.org/wiki/, not en.wikipedia.org/w/. Before leaving an edit you can also check your contributions or the page history in another tab. Some users copy a large edit to their clipboard ({{keypress|Ctrl|a}} followed by {{keypress|Ctrl|c}} for Windows browsers) before saving a large edit in case something goes wrong. If you want to be extra careful then also insert the text somewhere else like Notepad with {{keypress|Ctrl|v}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:45, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, I have written a wiki page for a Professional Society, how do I get it published? Or reviewed? Cninenine (talk) 07:22, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:You need to click the blue "Submit your draft for review!" button in the box at the top of the draft to formally submit it.

:If you are affiliated with this society, that must be disclosed, see WP:COI and WP:PAID. 331dot (talk) 07:30, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:The draft was blatant promotion and has been deleted. Wikipedia is not a place just to tell about something. A Wikipedia article about an organization must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the organization, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable organization. 331dot (talk) 08:44, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

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needs correction: born June 13 (not 9) in Los Angeles (not Santa Monica). I just had lunch with my father and he brought this to my attention.

Please correct. He’ll be 86 on Friday June 13, 2025.

Thank You & Sincerely,

Tracy Scates 2600:1702:820:3100:305A:1B3C:EBB0:ED5B (talk) 20:23, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

:We need a reliable source, please. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:44, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

::The article's current source 1 (a UCLA video) states the date, so I'll cite it to that (hopefully without messing up!)

::[Edited to add] And Done! (sorry, don't know the template). {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.6.40.15 (talk) 23:08, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

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i was testing out something in my sandbox, and noticed everything was gone! I looked at the edit history, and a user named Fuddle had removed 9,800 words of my work! MisterMD (talk) 18:24, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

:You were using Draft:Sandbox, which is a communal sandbox.

:Your personal sandbox is at User:MisterMD/sandbox.

: You may retrieve what you were writing by editing the old version of the former, at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Sandbox&oldid=1295098102]. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:44, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

::thank you! MisterMD (talk) 18:53, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

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I refer to the page Course of Action Display and Evaluation Tool. I see "This article contains close paraphrasing of non-free copyrighted sources." How do I find which specific parts of the article is causing the concern? Is there tool I can use? I did try CopyPatrol, but it fails to find this page title (!?). Cz13sz17 (talk) 23:50, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{u|Ca}} I see you tagged the article when you approved it for AfC, can you explain the problem? Shouldn't any copyvio problem have been addressed before the article was accepted? TSventon (talk) 00:06, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

::The close-paraphrasing was not severe enough for a decline or deletion, but still was problematic. Ca ^{talk to me!} 07:55, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:OK, I found CopyVios. I am all good now. Cz13sz17 (talk) 00:10, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Epcot&curid=37397&diff=1294107984&oldid=1294107977 One example I saw], and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Blue_Origin_NS-19&action=history another one]. I've seen numerous IPs pasting stuff like this onto other pages today and yesterday. They get reverted, but I'm curious why they're doing this. Weeklyd3 (talk) 16:48, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:Appears to be some random abusive editor, no idea if it's one of our long-term problems or a new-comer, but it doesn't really matter. They're using proxies, so it involves several IPs that change over time, as they each get long-term blocked in turn. DMacks (talk) 17:11, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Usually I can delete columns from a table no problem using Visual Editor, but there is something different about the tables in this article so I cannot do it (see also talk page of article).

By the way if I take a screenshot of the problem can I attach or link it here somehow? Chidgk1 (talk) 17:41, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:That article seems to be using Template:Avilisthead for its tables rather than the standard table format. The columns are established by that template so you can't remove them individually on the article page, but they are somewhat configurable per the instructions on the template page. That being said, if you actually just want to edit the contents of the rows, in the Visual Editor you should be able to click the table and then select the Edit button to further edit the table's contents. Amstrad00 (talk) 18:02, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

::{{ping|Chidgk1}} If you temporarily replace {{tl|Avilisthead}} with {| in the source editor and switch to VisualEditor then it can delete columns. You can then see if there is a way to make {{tl|Avilisthead}} only produce the column headers you want. Otherwise you have to make wikitext for the headers. Special:ExpandTemplates can show the wikitext produced by a template call. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:49, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

What does Wikipedia:Department directory do? Whatback11 (talk) 17:03, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:It's a broad directory of links that editors can use to help them collaborate in building and maintaining the encyclopedia. Perception312 (talk) 19:41, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

hello- we subitted articles and details for a product we invented and were told we were trying to sell. We are not and have no one to talk to in order to understand how or why we can make this better. Very frustrating. Help? 71.205.174.156 (talk) 17:11, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hi there,

:Thanks for being interested in contributing to Wikipedia.

:Typically, we discourage companies from directly contributing to articles regarding themselves or their products. Please see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest for more information. ···sardonism · t · c 17:16, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, IP user.

:{{HD/WINI}}

:Wikipedia is basically not interested in what you want to say about your own company or product: it is only interested in what people unconnected with you have published about it.

:If there has not yet been much independent writing about the product, then it is not (so far) notable in Wikipedia's special sense of the word. ColinFine (talk) 20:08, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Elton John has sold over 300 million albums and over 100 million singles. Wikipedia needs to change the 300 million records sold to over 400 million sold. Beadsley2414 (talk) 22:30, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:Beadsley2414, if you can present a reliable source for updated information for the article Elton John, then edit the article accordingly. If you are unable or unwilling to edit the article, then make a suggestion at the foot of Talk:Elton John. -- Hoary (talk) 23:13, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:If you want to say that "He has sold over 400 million records worldwide" instead of "300 millions".

:A "secondary source" is needed for the article "Elton John".

:I'm referring to the version of the article from "JUNE/02/2025" at "16:05 UTC".

:

:You can "be bold" if you had a "reliable source". Anatole-berthe (talk) 23:15, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Just came across the page The Feminist Five, where the lead image is a drawing of the five people involved instead of an image. The articles on each individual person (eg Wei Tingting) also uses the same drawing, just cropped. As far as I can tell, the painting is released under a free license, and I didn’t see anything at WP:BLP that says you can’t use a painting, but something feels off about it. Just wanted to confirm that this is okay, or would it be better if it were removed? 45500LighthouseRoad (talk) 15:58, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:I don't think there is a policy against using the image. WP:BLPIMAGE says that AI images may not be used, but author of the image of The Feminist Five seems to be a professional artist who donates content to Wikimedia Commons and the image does not say that AI was used. TSventon (talk) 16:38, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

::No, but I think the community has been generally opposed to using WP:USERG pics of living people, AI or not. I know I've seen long discussions on it. @SMcCandlish, were you in those? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:50, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

::Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Images/Archive_11#WP:USERG_portraits is one discussion, but I've seen longer ones. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:58, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:It is an image. It was produced by an artist, not a camera. There's nothing "off" about that; see Napoleon and many other articles. Maproom (talk) 20:54, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

::Napoleon is not alive and there is no possible way to get a photo of him. Note the scope of the question is clearly "BLP", and that means it's reasonable that someone could get a photo of the subject (just like we reject fair-use of them), not "people". DMacks (talk) 21:13, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:Thanks all for the responses, seems like there isn’t a specific policy discussing paintings in BLPs. From WP:IUPC, “the subject to be illustrated should be clearly identifiable in context, and should not be overly stylized” (thanks @Gråbergs Gråa Sång). In this case, I’d say that the paintings are “overly stylized” and not “clearly identifiable”, and I think there’s a basis for removing them. Will boldly do in a few hours unless anybody has anything else I should consider. 45500LighthouseRoad (talk) 00:07, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

::Contrary to {{u|DMacks}}' position that, as they are living, the subjects' photographs could be taken and donated – while that may be theoretically true, the specific geographical and legal circumstances of these five subjects would, I suggest, make it extremely difficult if not hazardous for someone to take and distribute photographs of any of them, let alone all five. Given this, surely it's better to have the existing artwork than nothing at all? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.192.228.242 (talk) 04:40, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Assuming this is not AI, it's the artistic vision of a netizen, with a siginificant WP:OR element. Compare [https://www.ourpride.org/troy-perry-awards-1/wei-tingting this pic] to the one at Wei Tingting. Are we gaining anything from the WP-POV by including it? IMO, no. It's decorative fan-art. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 05:27, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

::::Li Tingting's photos in the refs on her article look noticeably different from the artistic drawing as well. I agree that there are people that are alive that would be impossible(ish) to photograph. But I disagree that "it's better to have the existing artwork than nothing at all" if that artwork is at all a concern itself. Articles aren't required to have photographs, and nothing about these individuals' notability or other encyclopediac content relates to their appearance, so the image does not strongly help the reader. DMacks (talk) 09:59, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:::I don't recall where specific prior discussions were, Gråbergs Gråa Sång. My recollection of the general sentiment is that paintings, drawings, and other non-photographic depictions have been seen as inappropriate, except for pre-photography subjects, because they are (to put it in succinct terms) a form of fiction.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  20:25, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

::::This Wikipedia:No_original_research/Noticeboard/Archive_49#Cartoon_portraits was the one I was remembering. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:31, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

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I use {{tl|Non-free use rationale video game screenshot}} when uploading video game screenshots, but ImageTaggingBot doesn't seem to like it and always tags the uploads as missing source info, despite the template autofilling the "Source" field. (examples include [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Path_of_Exile_2_screenshot.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=1292130533 this] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Dune_Awakening_screenshot.jpg&curid=80194961&diff=1295213201&oldid=1295204536 this]) Am I doing something wrong? [[User:CanonNi]] (talk • contribs) 11:57, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:Suggest you ask on the bot's (or its operator's) talk page in the first instance. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:24, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

::Will do, thanks. [[User:CanonNi]] (talk • contribs) 12:36, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

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Plz check — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.179.108.133 (talk) 23:23, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

: Which page? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 08:30, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

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help:!!!!

La Voz (American TV series) is broken what do i do

there are so many revisions it is killing my brain ahhh Myrealnamm (💬Let's talk · 📜My work) 23:52, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

:Oh, my. I’ll leave the “fixing” part to smarter editors, but leaving this diff here so we can always “run away” to the last revision before it, uh, sort of broke, if needed: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=La_Voz_(American_TV_series)&oldid=1293957635] GoldRomean (talk) 03:03, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{u|yrealnamm}}, there's an end-of-table |} after three rows of the table. Removing it helps a little. Then there's another after every few rows. Removing those removes the unformatted stuff from below the table, and adds junk to the table. — Editing tables in Wikipedia is difficult. Editors should take it slowly, and check the result frequently as they work. Maproom (talk) 08:11, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

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I sought data on the M1887 Hospital Corps Knife, and you said that no such knife exists; did I mean the M1917 knife? Below that, you provide a link to list of US military knives, and the M1887 is on that list. Add to that the fact that I own two such blades. Now what does Wikipedia have to say? 66.58.155.213 (talk) 08:44, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

:Where did it say that we claimed no such knife exists? If you mean because it's redlinked, that means there's no article about the knife and is not a judgment on its existence. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 08:50, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

:"Did you mean" is from search results like Special:Search/M1887 Hospital Corps Knife which says: The page "M1887 Hospital Corps Knife" does not exist. It merely means that Wikipedia has no article with that title. "Did you mean" suggestions on search results are made automatically by the search software which often makes poor guesses. It's different from disambiguation pages like M1917 which are written by editors and only suggest things that exist. The standard formulation on disambiguation pages is "may refer to". PrimeHunter (talk) 10:02, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

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I was creating a page and it says your servers are down for maintenance? TammySparks (talk) 17:44, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

:This usually only lasts for seconds. Please try again. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:04, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

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I found "__DISAMBIG__". in a disambiguation page, and I don't understand if it is different from {{tl|Disambiguation}} Should a disambig page have just one of these, both, either? Ike9898 (talk) 15:08, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:Ike9898, I am not familiar with "__DISAMBIG__", where did you find it? TSventon (talk) 16:32, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @Ike9898. __DISAMBIG__ is a Magic word, which marks a page as a disambiguation page for the software.

:{{tl|Disambiguation}} is a template which does much more than this, and has a number of arguments that you can read about in its documentation. (I am guessing that somewhere deep in its guts it adds the magic word, but I haven't found where, so I may be wrong). ColinFine (talk) 16:49, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:: This is the trace:

:::{{tl|Disambiguation}} → {{tl|Dmbox}} → __DISAMBIG__

:: I checked and found no mainspace pages that use it directly. DMacks (talk) 17:20, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:::The one that I found I removed and replaced (before you checked). I wonder if I found the single instance of that use by chance? Ike9898 (talk) 15:16, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

::::You win! DMacks (talk) 17:51, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:See Help:Magic words§Behavior switches! Whatback11 (talk) 16:49, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

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I have codeveloped a Wikipedia entry in Spanish with another University professor.

Now I want to add an English version of the content. I am a University professor fluent in English. How can I add the English content?

Thank you very much. WillymatesII (talk) 10:55, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:WillymatesII, you have to attend to the reviewer comments that head Draft:I3E Economic Uncertainty Index. But before you even do that, here, in this discussion thread, please point us to three sources that (i) are independent of the I3E Economic Uncertainty Index, its authors, and the IESE Business School and (ii) are reliable and (iii) go into depth about the I3E Economic Uncertainty Index. -- Hoary (talk) 12:18, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you.

::Please note that the I3E was developed by my co-author and me and that the more rigorous academic papers exploring the index to date have been written by us.

::I don't know if I am supposed to copy the references directly here. Some additional independent sources discussing the I3E:

:: María Gil, Javier J. Pérez y Alberto Urtasun, Artículos analíticos (2 de febrero de 2017). «Incertidumbre macroeconómica: medición e impacto sobre la economía española». Banco de España. Consultado el 16 de enero de 2022.

:: «El índice de incertidumbre económica, en el nivel más alto desde noviembre». Castilla y León Económica. 12 de julio de 2011. Consultado el 17 de enero de 2022.

:: Agencia Europa Press (17 de enero de 2014). «La incertidumbre económica cerró 2013 en mínimos históricos, al caer 7 puntos en diciembre». El Día (Santa Cruz de Tenerife). Consultado el 17 de enero de 2022.

:: «La incertidumbre económica en España baja tras los resultados de las elecciones en Cataluña». Antena 3 Noticias. 14 de enero de 2018. Consultado el 17 de enero de 2022.

:: «La incertidumbre económica sube en noviembre, según el IESE». Expansión. 5 de diciembre de 2018. Consultado el 17 de enero de 2022.

:: «La incertidumbre económica sigue a la baja en España a pesar de los síntomas de desaceleración y el 28A». El Economista. 10 de marzo de 2019. Consultado el 17 de enero de 2022.

:: «La cepa Ómicron eleva la incertidumbre económica en España - RRHH Press - Noticias de Recursos Humanos y empleo». 2 de diciembre de 2021. Consultado el 16 de enero de 2022.

:: «El Índice de Incertidumbre Económica del IESE sube en noviembre por la aparición de la nueva cepa del Covid». www.europapress.es. 2 de diciembre de 2021. Consultado el 16 de enero de 2022.

:: Agencia Europa Press (5 de abril de 2022). «La incertidumbre económica aumenta en marzo marcada por la guerra y la inflación, según el Índice del IESE». www.europapress.es. Consultado el 12 de abril de 2022. WillymatesII (talk) 15:15, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Hello, @WillymatesII. If there are few or no published sources about I3E that were written and published independently of I3E and its associates, then it is unlikely that it will meet the notability requirements of English Wikipedia. (This may be different in Spanish Wikipedia, I don't know).

:::English {{HD/WINI}} ColinFine (talk) 16:43, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:::I regret that I failed either to make it clear either that I wasn't asking for additional sources (the sources could be either among those already cited, or additional), or that for this purpose there should be no more than three. Anyway, here are the first three that you list, WillymatesII:

:::*{{Olive|María Gil, Javier J. Pérez y Alberto Urtasun, Artículos analíticos (2 de febrero de 2017). «Incertidumbre macroeconómica: medición e impacto sobre la economía española». Banco de España.}} I find this [https://www.bde.es/f/webbde/SES/Secciones/Publicaciones/InformesBoletinesRevistas/ArticulosAnaliticos/2017/T1/fich/beaa1701-art3.pdf here]. The string "Índice IESE de Incertidumbre Económica" appears nowhere within it. The string "I3E" appears once, within "Estos cuatro índices son los componentes del indicador de incertidumbre económica I3E elaborado por el IESE."

:::*{{Olive|«El índice de incertidumbre económica, en el nivel más alto desde noviembre». Castilla y León Económica. 12 de julio de 2011.}} I find this [https://www.eleconomista.es/economia/noticias/3225439/07/11/El-indice-de-incertidumbre-economica-en-el-nivel-mas-alto-desde-noviembre.html here]. It tells us: "El Índice IESE de Incertidumbre Económica es un indicador que elabora el International Center for Decision Making del IESE para reflejar de un modo sintético la incertidumbre existente sobre la coyuntura económica." That's all that it tells us.

:::*{{Olive|Agencia Europa Press (17 de enero de 2014). «La incertidumbre económica cerró 2013 en mínimos históricos, al caer 7 puntos en diciembre». El Día (Santa Cruz de Tenerife).}} I find this [https://www.europapress.es/economia/macroeconomia-00338/noticia-economia-macro-incertidumbre-economica-cerro-2013-minimos-historicos-caer-puntos-diciembre-20140117161651.html here] (on the Europa Press website rather than the website of El Día). It cites a press release from IESE, and (whether or not via the press release) a co-creator of the index -- and there's no indication that it's also based on anything else. It describes I3E in one sentence, presumably deriving from the press release.

:::None of these three covers I3E in any depth, and it's also clear that the third isn't independent. Thus they fail to show that I3E is "notable" as the term is used by and for en:Wikipedia. (NB such "notability" is not notability as the word is commonly understood, and it certainly isn't correlated with quality.) -- Hoary (talk) 23:08, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

::::Thank you for your reply. Some additional information to demonstrate the notability of the I3E Index:

::::The Bank of Spain is the most relevant economic institution in Spain and one of the most important in Europe. The fact that an independent institution like the Bank of Spain uses the I3E in their economic reports gives a strong indication of notability.

::::"Expansión" is the leading (and of course, fully independent) economic newspaper in Spain:

::::«La incertidumbre económica sube en noviembre, según el IESE». Expansión. 5 de diciembre de 2018. Consultado el 17 de enero de 2022. https://www.expansion.com/economia/2018/12/05/5c080a4522601d7b318b4689.html

::::El Economista is another prestigious and fully independent economic newspaper:

::::«La incertidumbre económica sigue a la baja en España a pesar de los síntomas de desaceleración y el 28A». El Economista. 10 de marzo de 2019. Consultado el 17 de enero de 2022. https://www.eleconomista.es/economia/noticias/9750783/03/19/La-incertidumbre-economica-en-Espana-baja-en-febrero-y-sigue-muy-estable-segun-el-IESE.html

::::And so forth. The I3E has had and continues to have a significant impact on national economic newspapers and journals. And now that it is being released internationally in another 22 countries, the number of impacts in economic press and journals will only increase. The I3E is the only economic uncertainty index that is being published daily for 22 countries and it is now publicly available worldwide. This international expansion of the index to new countries worldwide is why we believe that the I3E should be included also in the English Wikipedia.

::::The more technical (in-depth) research papers are, for the time being, provided by the authors: (https://wdecisions.github.io/i3e/I3E.pdf, https://wdecisions.github.io/i3e/I3E_and_alternatives.pdf). However, more papers will be published now that the I3E has been made publicly available to the academic community. 62.22.128.114 WillymatesII. (talk) 15:40, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

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There has been a lot of scandals happening at Bangor Cathedral in Wales and with the poor leadership of the archbishop of Wales. The facts and sources have been published in the news as of late, is it not important to update this information onto Bangor Cathedral’s Wikipedia page? 2A00:23C7:7C41:4701:708F:632A:1BD5:174 (talk) 17:47, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:If you are confident that the information is important for that article, feel free to be bold and add the information (possibly to the History section) using a neutral wording and citing reliable news sources, or suggest changes on the article's talk page. Perception312 (talk) 17:58, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:The article Bangor Cathedral is about a building, and is not a suitable place for an account of the actions of its archbishop. Maproom (talk) 06:54, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

:Andy John might be an appropriate place. Maproom (talk) 07:09, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

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There are two peer articles with similar content and titles: Horror fiction and Horror movies. Only the fiction article has a hatnote, unfortunately. I added a hatnote for the movies article, but an editor undid this change. He commented on the talk page that only the fiction article needs a hatnote, but this one-directional guidance seems likely to confuse some readers. There are no other comments about this topic on the talk page yet. What is a good way to handle this situation? Pac Veten (talk) 22:34, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @Pac Veten. The way to resolve this, as with all disagreements between editors, is to discuss it openly with the other editor and any other editors, and try to reach consensus. If you are unable to reach consensus, then WP:dispute resolution tells you how to proceed.

:Personally, I don't see why either has a hatnote pointing to the other. I think a "See also" entry further down would be quite adequate. ColinFine (talk) 10:41, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

::Hello, @ColinFine. As mentioned above, that editor and I pursued a thread on the article's talk page, but no other users joined the discussion. I'll consider the possibility of dispute resolution, thanks.

::On a high level, this hatnote problem seems to stem from the lack of a "parent" article about horror media. Related articles (e.g., science fiction, fantasy) use a more general approach effectively, incorporating multiple media into a single article. Hopefully a SME can contribute this for horror media at some point. Pac Veten (talk) 15:48, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

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Hello,

I am trying to merge or link these two pages without success:

1. :de:Wallisch
2. Wallisch

They refer to the same topic, but the other language versions do not appear on the English version.

Merge two items page says: "Failed to merge Items, please resolve any conflicts first.

Error: Conflicting descriptions for language an."

What am I doing wrong? Koko the tabby cat (talk) 12:54, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:I believe it is because one is a German Wikipedia article and one is an English Wikipedia article - the two are separate projects and as such you aren't able to merge them. I might be wrong though. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 12:57, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:@Koko the tabby cat this was a problem on Wikidata. I've [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2543002&diff=2357541174&oldid=2357541138 merged] the two items. [[User:CanonNi]] (talk • contribs) 13:15, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

::{{ping|CanonNi}} you have merged items for a surname page and a disambiguation page, was that correct? The merged item is showing multiple error messages. A similar result could be achieved by linking Wallisch (disambiguation) (which I have just created) to :d:Q2543002. TSventon (talk) 13:28, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

::{{ping|CanonNi}} I have queried this at :d:Help talk:Merge#Q2543002 and Q37056283. TSventon (talk) 14:09, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you. On the German Wikipedia page for Wallisch, now we can switch the language to English.

::I actually tried to merge the two surname pages, but it didn't work for me. I didn't know there was a disambiguation page as well but I had nothing to do with it. Koko the tabby cat (talk) 21:21, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Koko the tabby cat I have unmerged the items following advice at Wikidata and created and linked Wallisch (disambiguation). I think I now have to create and link redirects in the other four languages. TSventon (talk) 21:31, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Everything seems to have worked (famous last words). TSventon (talk) 21:58, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

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Subject: Inclusion Request – Dr. Sajid Hussain, English Poet from Pakistan

Dear Sir/Madam,

I hope this message finds you well. I am Dr. Sajid Hussain, an English poet from Pakistan, whose work focuses on themes of humanity, nature ,peace, environment, and philosophical reflection. I kindly request that my profile be considered for inclusion in the Wikipedia Encyclopedia.

My contributions to English literature and poetry are documented and can be found through a simple online search under the name:

Dr. Sajid Hussain English Poet from Pakistan

These sources reflect my literary journey, publications, and professional background.

It would be a great honor to be included among the voices that continue to shape and elevate global literature through Wikipedia's esteemed platform.

With kind regards and deep appreciation,

Dr. Sajid Hussain

English Poet from Pakistan

2404:3100:104F:B291:1:0:4362:456B (talk) 13:11, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:IP editor. Unfortunately, your name is the same as a now-deceased journalist from Pakistan. That will make it very difficult for anyone to find sources specifically about you. While we strongly advise against autobiography for the reasons mentioned at that link, it is not prohibited for you to try to draft one provided you use the articles for creation process. Beware that on the English Wikipedia your draft will be expected to show how you are notable in the quirky way we define that word. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:57, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

While submitting an edit on Wikipedia (Economy of India), I received the following message: Script warning: One or more {{cite book}} templates have errors; messages may be hidden. I’m unable to identify the error, as I don’t believe I made it. I’ve tried reviewing the edit history, but it’s been quite difficult, especially since I’m editing after a long time, and I couldn’t locate the issue. Could you please help me resolve this? You can either point me to the error or correct it directly. Dinesh | Talk 14:14, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:This reference (permalink) (also duplicated in §Further reading (permalink) – the duplicate should be removed). The publication date stated is 1946; ISBNs came into being in the mid 1960s so there is a discrepancy there that needs to be resolved. The script warning that you quote has a help link. Follow that link for instructions that will tell you how to see hidden cs1|2 error messages.

:—Trappist the monk (talk) 14:35, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

hello

I haven't logged in for months. I noticed the draft that was here has been deleted by another user. Why did this happen? Is there a way to retrieve and download it so it can be updated and saved in case this happens again? is this common, why would someone do this?

Thanks Wordsthatsay (talk) 15:30, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:Maybe this helps Karacehennem (talk) 15:43, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:@Wordsthatsay You don't specify the title of the draft, so it is hard to be sure what happened. Drafts which are not edited for 6 months are automatically deleted by a bot. However, they can be restored by following the instructions at WP:REFUND. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:43, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:See your previous archived request here. TSventon (talk) 15:45, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi all! I noticed a difference between Turkish and English Wikipedia, which is that some SVG files looks different when dark mode is enabled. In english Wikipedia, we can see that some basic SVGs looks compatible with dark mode. However, it is not compatible on Turkish Wikipedia. For example, :File:Square (geometry).svg at the documentation pages of :tr:Şablon:Çokgen bilgi kutusu and Template:Infobox polygon. Is there anyone knowing the reason for this, and am I able to fix the problem by editing the template on Turkish Wikipedia? Karacehennem (talk) 15:12, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:You may do better to ask on WP:VPT. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:12, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:@Karacehennem A lot of our .svg files have the same issue in dark mode and one work-around has been to include the parameter |ImageClass=skin-invert-image within infobox templates. Whether this can be done on Turkish infoboxes, I don't know. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:49, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi I would like to update the photo on an infobox as the one wiki currently uses is out of date. I have worked out how to do this, but when i edit the map disappears.

Please advise how i make the map correctly show up in the infobox.

The page is: Finsbury Circus

User07963 (talk) 16:30, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:User07963 you haven't saved your edit, so it is difficult to say what the problem is. Incidentally the current photo looks good, I am not sure it needs to be replaced. TSventon (talk) 16:46, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

::{{ping|User07963}} I guess you used VisualEditor. The map is displayed with a special method which doesn't always render during editing with VisualEditor. It will probably be there if you save. If you want to be sure in advance then you can switch to the source editor on a pencil icon at the top right and click "Show preview" before saving. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:07, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

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Hi all! I've just noticed that {{tl|Inflation}} {{tq|Will ignore any commas}}. Why? Isn't it possible to have the input/output figures consistent with each other?

My example:

{{Inflation|UK|12000|1385|cursign=£|fmt=eq|orig=yes}}

results in:

{{Inflation|UK|12000|1385|cursign=£|fmt=eq|orig=yes}}

(i.e., £12000, no comma, £12 million, commas.)

TIA for your help! Cheers, —Fortuna, imperatrix 10:23, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

: {{Inflation|UK|12,000|1385|cursign=£|fmt=eq|orig=yes}}. In other words, GIGO. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:39, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{ping|Fortuna imperatrix mundi}} Your input has no commas so I'm not sure what you mean. Both input and output says "12000". {{Inflation|UK|12,000|1385|cursign=£|fmt=eq|orig=yes}} results in {{Inflation|UK|12,000|1385|cursign=£|fmt=eq|orig=yes}}. All commas are ignored when the value is used (you could write 1,200,0 or anything) but it's displayed as the input, at least in this example. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:50, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thanks very much both. When I added a comma to the input and save it, it produced a load of red ink—{{red|Error when using {{Inflation}}: NaN/calculation error, please notify Template talk:Inflation}}—that wasn't there before. (To clarify, if I'm misusing the template, it only tells me so when i try and do something new to it (e.g. add a comma). Without such a change being attempted (as now), it throws out now red ink, etc., and yet I assume there's still a problem. But now it's not showing. See what I mean?) Cheers, —Fortuna, imperatrix 11:03, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Oddly, the problem seems to be the |r parameter. When I try this in my sandbox, {{Inflation|UK|12,000|1385|cursign=£|fmt=eq|orig=yes}} works fine but {{Inflation|UK|12,000|1385|cursign=£|r=|fmt=eq|orig=yes}} gives the errors you are seeing. You used the latter version [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=English_invasion_of_Scotland_(1385)&oldid=1295379615 in your edit]. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:04, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

::::{{ping|Fortuna imperatrix mundi}} If you ask for help with broken code then always post or link the broken code. Otherwise it's hard to help. You both added a comma and an empty |r= in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=English_invasion_of_Scotland_(1385)&diff=prev&oldid=1295379615]. A value is required. It works with for example |r=-6: {{Inflation|UK|12,000|1385|cursign=£|r=-6|fmt=eq|orig=yes}}. An empty |r= would also fail without commas. Many but not all templates are coded to give the same result with an empty and an omitted parameter. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:54, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::: Thought I had posted the broken code! Still, that works, I use |r=-1. Thank you both! —Fortuna, imperatrix 13:19, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

This might be a bit complicated for the Helpdesk, but I already asked at Help talk:Citation Style 1 and didn't get a response, so trying my luck here:

When citing primary source documents accessed via Ancestry.com, can someone offer guidance on how to populate the citation template fields? For example, the [https://www-ancestryinstitution-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/search/collections/2995/records/10248 Certificate of Registration of American Citizen] (WP:TWL link) for James W McKean, numbered 10160 in the original paper document, has the following source information provided in the "Source" tab on Ancestry.com:

Ancestry.com. U.S., Consular Registration Certificates, 1907-1918 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2013.

Original data:

Consular Registration Certificates, compiled 1907–1918. NAID: 1244186. General Records of the Department of State, 1763–2002, Record Group 59. The National Archives in Washington, D.C.

What citation template is best suited for such documents, and how should the information be mapped to the author, title, work, publisher, etc. fields? --Paul_012 (talk) 16:08, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:You may use {{Tl|Cite document}}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:23, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thanks for the suggestion. The question remains, though, which bits of information should be entered as the author, title, work, publisher, etc. --Paul_012 (talk) 04:55, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

Is there a way to 'mute' a specific section so that updates to it don't appear on my watchlist, while allowing updates to other sections of the same page to still come through? Often a busy thread on AN/-I etc. dramaboards floods my watchlist for days on end, so that not only do they constantly send me updates I don't want to see, but they also mask updates to other sections on the same page which I still do want to see. Thanks, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:30, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:No, but you can unwatch the page and subscribe to only the threads that interest you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:39, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

User Thepharoah17 is engaged in vandalism. He removed Israel from among the opponents of IS. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sheikh_Omar_Hadid_Brigade&diff=prev&oldid=967354571 I can't roll back the edit because the article is protected. 2A00:20:C013:A720:F5EE:BD30:5230:AD9B (talk) 07:37, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:You are linking to an edit that happened 5 years ago. Polygnotus (talk) 07:49, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

::And the edit was entirely correct anyway, since we aren't going to cite the far-right anti-Islamist Gatestone Institute for anything. They have a long history of making false claims. AndyTheGrump (talk) 08:01, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:Aside from the points others have made, the correct place to discuss this issue would be the talk page of the article concerned. As the page is protected, you can request changes there which an admin will make for you if there is consensus, or if they are uncontroversial; see WP:PROTECTEDEDIT. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:42, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

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can soemone help meWhat is the song it goes like do do do do do do do do dudiu do do do duidi do do didifdnin dididndindnn diddinndnndnn diddjndndndn and then it gets silent and them comes back and is like do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do dindid didn didindiidn didndidn thanks 2600:387:F:7519:0:0:0:7 (talk) 02:11, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

:This help desk is for questions about editing Wikipedia. The entertainment reference desk might be able to help you if you can come up with a better description of what you're hearing. — ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 02:21, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

:Ask ChatGPT _{Piotrus at Hanyang| reply here} 07:05, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

Do Wah Diddy Diddy (guess) but you can also try with Google.[https://blog.google/products/search/hum-to-search/]--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:17, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

Requesting help to locate the June 2023 English Wikipedia data dump (SQL or XML file). This is required for research on Wikipedia reference patterns. Please provide any direct links or guidance. 4.53.151.98 (talk) 13:44, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:Wikipedia:Database download is probably what you're looking for. [[User:CanonNi]] (talk • contribs) 13:48, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:You could ask on WP:VPT, on :meta:Talk:Data dumps, or on the xmldatadumps-l mailing list linked on :meta:Data dumps; I list these in increasing order of likely success. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:49, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi - I blanked and redirected Montmorency to Montmorency series, but in doing so I can no longer find the image of the book cover (Montmorency) that was on the page. I can't see it in Wikimedia commons. I'm not sure where else to look to find it. Can someone help. Thanks. Blackballnz (talk) 08:00, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:Covers of books published within anything up to 95 years ago (it's very complicated) are most likely still in copyright and must not be uploaded to Commons.

:Under the non-free rationale, they can be uploaded directly to enwiki and used once to illustrate the article about that specific book only.

:If you blanked the book's article, you likely deleted the only copy of the image that enwiki was using, but it can be accessed via in the page's History, and is here.

:Whether or not it's permissible to use this (copyrighted) image to illustrate an article about the series is problematic: I am inclined to think not. A photo of a boxed set of the series, if one existed, might be more acceptable, but I can't find evidence of one.

:You might get away with a montage of all 5 covers (as [https://www.fantasticfiction.com/u/eleanor-updale/ here], but note these are not the original 1st editions' covers); others, however, might think this would be overkill.

:You might want to browse, and ask advice at, Commons:Village pump/Copyright.

:Hope this helps. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.6.81.243 (talk) 09:02, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

::Note that Commons:Village pump/Copyright will not advise on free-use issues, as these are out-of-scope at Commons and local to en.Wikipedia. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:41, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Andy is right. WP:MCQ is the most appropriate place on Wikipedia to ask about copyright. --ColinFine (talk) 11:35, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Montmorency_series&oldid=175279713 This (from 2 December 2007)] is the final version of the article to have been titled "Montmorency/ Scarper", Blackballnz. Coho "moved Montmorency/ Scarper to Montmorency Series" (which was later renamed "Montmorency series"). "Montmorency/ Scarper" was started as a redirect but later became "Montmorency (character)"; you recently prodded it. The article "Montmorency" started as a [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Montmorency&oldid=3297132 stub about a Melbourne suburb], but swiftly became a disambiguation page. You can look in the histories of any of these articles for versions that had illustrations; once you know the filenames of the illustrations, you can find what happened to them. -- Hoary (talk) 11:14, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{ping|Blackballnz}} you are probably looking for :File:Montmorency (novel).jpg, which was used on Montmorency (novel) before you redirected it. This is a local non-free image and will be deleted if it is not used on any page. MKFI (talk) 11:07, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello. I was wondering if I can I take an infographic from an Australian government publication, specifically the RBA, for use in an article on a financing mechanism. I wasn't certain how policy on publications differed between governments. All help is appreciated.

All the best - CSGinger14 (talk) 12:27, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

:@CSGinger14 See :c:Commons:Copyright_rules_by_territory/Australia#Government_works from which I take the answer to be "No". You can ask at the Commons copyright help desk at :c:Commons:Village_pump/Copyright for more detailed guidance. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:41, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

::... it may be possible, for example, to use the underlying data to create your own graphic. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:42, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi, got this msg trying to login. I'm Rhuvein.

Contact ca@wikimedia.org if you no longer have access to your account's email address

Can I reset my email address in order to login?

Many thanks! 2601:248:537E:6F00:FC36:30A9:5B1B:97B (talk) 20:29, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

:You can only set the email address by yourself if you are already logged in and know your password. People at ca@wikimedia.org may set an address for you but I don't know in which circumstances they will do it. I guess they at least want some evidence that you really are User:Rhuvein and not somebody trying to hack the account. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:58, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{Tq|1="Contact ca@wikimedia.org if you no longer have access to your account's email address"}} - Did you do so? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:55, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

What's the name of the template that says something like "This article was mentioned in a Signpost article..."? I remember seeing one somewhere but couldn't find it since there are [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?fulltext=1&search=Template%3ASignpost&title=Special%3ASearch&ns0=1 a million templates] with Signpost in its name. Thanks. [[User:CanonNi]] (talk • contribs) 11:26, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

:If there is such a template, it hasn't been applied consistently, since Talk:Asian News International doesn't have it and that article has been mentioned many times in Signpost. There are, of course, templates like {{t|DYK talk}} for articles that have appeared on the DYK section of the mainpage. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:52, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

::{{tl|ITN talk}} is about news so maybe a little closer but I don't know a template for the Signpost. {{tl|Press}} is occasionally used for Signpost mentions, e.g. on Talk:Etika (click Show at "This has been mentioned by a media organization"). PrimeHunter (talk) 13:09, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

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== 1645-46 document now on COMMONS ==

:Please slice off / edit out the blue bit top right hand side and CHANGE the spelling of Cotten to the correct COTTON (such as it is in this 1645-46 document now on COMMONS

:File:Notes taken by Robert Keanye regarding sermons delivered by Rev. John Cotten, Rev. John Wilson and Rev. Thomas Cobbet 1645-46 at First Church, Boston, Massachusetts Bay Colony Screenshot 2025-06-15 at 1.08.33_pm.png

Sorry and thanks Srbernadette (talk) 12:41, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

:While trimming an image may make sense for an article, I fail to see how diliberately changing it to a fake image would do any justice to the article.Naraht (talk) 13:12, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

::@Srbernadette As far as I can tell, it was only the caption in the article that had the wrong spelling, so I've [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Cotton_%28minister%29&diff=1295892860&oldid=1295891445 changed it]. Commons has a good cropping tool that could be used to remove the artefact introduced by including part of the screen in the screenshot. Alternatively, the file could be downloaded to a local computer and re-uploaded with the blue part removed. Are you able to do that or would you prefer I did it for you? Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:55, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

:::{{ping|Michael D. Turnbull}} it was also the file-name, which is what might be seen when hovering or clicking on the image. But it's been renamed on commons now. DMacks (talk) 15:10, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

::{{ping|Naraht}} the "blue bit" is a UI widget from the website that is hosting the image of the item, which was included when the uploader took a full-window screenshot. It's not part of the item being displayed, but instead an artifact of the display of the item. DMacks (talk) 14:54, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

:::... and another user has now trimmed off the unwanted widget. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:25, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

::::I'm glad that others understood this better than I.Naraht (talk) 16:02, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

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Hi, an editor continues to remove tags related to COI and NPOV on an article they created for a certain business. It was declined at AfC for promotional issues but moved to mainspace anyway. Around the same time, the editor was [https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Richieste_di_revisione_del_blocco/Mediascriptor/06_gennaio_2025 blocked from editing the topic] on it.wikipedia before [https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Pagine_da_cancellare/Antigua.news the article was removed]. I'm not sure if the article was created on en.wikipedia during their block or not. The [https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antigua.news_(journal) fr.wikipedia version of the article] (which they also created) also flags NPOV issues. I know the global sites are not connected, but as it relates to the same editor, something just doesn't seem right here. As the author continues to heavily edit pages related to this business, its owner and people connected to him, what is the right way to address this? Thanks for your help Nayyn (talk) 18:25, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

:Firstly, use a COI-warning template on their talk page (Twinkle is a handy tool for this). If that fails to get good results, follow the process at the top of WP:COIN. But in any case, you should tell them that they are being discussed here. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:42, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thanks Andy. I have written on the talk page of the article, I will add a template to their talk page as well. I didn't mention them by name here as I was not sure the protocol. Many thanks. Nayyn (talk) 18:51, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

::Another editor noticed the behavior and raised the issue at sockpuppet investigations, which they were found to be using, and the editor was blocked. I think it is ok to archive this post now. Many thanks for your help. Nayyn (talk) 21:15, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

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I already have donate the amount of !5 Euros via PAYPAL under the name Athanasios Siaterlis and still receive this donation messages on my computer. Do you or not have receive my donation? If yes pls remove this donation messages from my computer

if it is possible. THANK YOU VERY MUCH for the KIND HELP OF WIKIPEDIA/WIKIMEDIA 2A02:587:4E0C:5A00:590B:8673:12CA:717C (talk) 21:34, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

:Wikipedia has no way to know that the person on your IP address at any given moment has donated. You can turn off the donation banners by creating an account and disabling them in the account preferences. 331dot (talk) 22:05, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

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This might just be me being inept, but I can't work out how to get DiscussionTools to work. A couple of days ago, I installed Convenient Discussions (CD) in my global.js, and disabled DiscussionTools as instructed, to allow CD to work properly. I then changed my mind, and removed CD ([https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Pineapple_Storage/global.js&action=history see global.js history]); I re-enabled DiscussionTools in my local preferences, and then realised it was a global preference so enabled it there too. Still though, I'm not seeing 'Reply' buttons, 'Add topic' opens a new edit window rather than just a text box, etc. I've tried logging out, clearing cache then logging back in again, but had no success. Can anyone advise on what I might have messed up here, and how I might be able to fix it? Thank you in advance! :) Pineapple Storage (talk) 23:58, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

:Never mind! I fixed it by adjusting my Global preferences on MediaWiki. What a relief! :) Pineapple Storage (talk) 00:05, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

@Cosmia Nebula: I noticed the statement "Don't believe his lies" on Cosmia Nebula's user page. While the intent may be to express disagreement, such phrasing could be interpreted as a personal attack, potentially conflicting with Wikipedia's Civility, the Foundation's code of conduct and No Personal Attacks policies. I’m seeking guidance on whether this aligns with community standards (e.g. WP:UP), as maintaining respectful discourse is crucial.

Furthermore, while reviewing parts of the essay on the UP, I perceive an intent to advance a particular argument (possibly violating WP:NOR). Although Schmidhuber is referenced, it's unclear if this constitutes original research. Where can I seek a peer review from AI experts or experienced editors for clarification?

Thank you. Rosa Olmos (talk) 11:31, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

:Given that it seems unlikely that Jürgen Schmidhuber will read it, or that more or less anyone else will understand what the heck it is all about if they do come across it, I'd have to suggest that as 'personal attacks' go, it is of marginal significance, at best. Not, in my opinion, worth getting in a tizzy over. As for WP:OR, that applies to article content, not personal opinions expressed on a contributors user pages. And we don't do 'peer review from experts' here. Not for articles, and certainly not for user pages. AndyTheGrump (talk) 11:33, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{Tq|1="Where can I seek a peer review from AI experts or experienced editors "}} - on the talk pages of the relevant WikiProjets, which are usually listed near the top of the talk pages of related articles. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:53, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

::Wikiprojects have no special mandate to engage in 'peer review', and they certainly shouldn't be expected to 'review' a contributors user page. AndyTheGrump (talk) 12:00, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

:::The UP suggests that Schmidthuber is actually vandalizing the Wiki and engaging in propaganda: Other than removing Schmidhuber-propaganda, I sometimes like to outSchmidhuber Schmidhuber by digging through dusty old books and finding some paper that is earlier than whatever his propaganda says. User:Cosmia_Nebula#Entschmidhuberung_und_Überschmidhuberung.

:::I just wonder if this is true (then evidence should provided) or if it is false (then scientific and policy vigor is warranted).

:::Pro Schmidhuber propaganda: the user's talk page indicates that Schmidthuber is indeed vandalizing the Wiki (I just read that). Maybe a peer review isn't a bad idea and we should mail (or even ping?) Schmidthuber to seize his propaganda? It seems to me that UPs and talk pages aren't the right place for that.

:::I agree on the tizzy thing, I just thought that this deserves a broader attentions by the pros (like User:Biggerj1), so it doesn't appear like a one man crusade. And who likes reading propaganda? Rosa Olmos (talk) 13:21, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

::::The two of you don't appear to have engaged in any disagreement. Problems can be addressed if/when they arise. we don't really need to opine on hypothetical conflicts, and we don't really need the talk page police out on patrol. GMG^talk 13:31, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

::::Cosmia Nebula has only made 5 edits to the Schmidhuber biography, [https://xtools.wmcloud.org/topedits/en.wikipedia.org/Cosmia%20Nebula/0/J%C3%BCrgen_Schmidhuber] none of which seem to have been seen as controversial by other contributors who have edited the article since. If there is a specific issue with any of these edits, it should be discussed on the article talk page. Otherwise, I suggest you drop it, Rosa Olmos. Accusations of 'vandalism' based on nothing but supposition are entirely inappropriate. More so, on the Help Desk, since this isn't the place to discuss behavioural issues - even real ones. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:26, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

I would love to know how can I open my Wikipedia account. 45.215.254.20 (talk) 18:18, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

:Creating an account is free. However, Wikipedia is not as other social media such as LinkedIn, and is not to be used for promotional purposes. Creating account is mainly for the purposes of tracking your contributions to the encyclopedia; although you are welcome to remain editing anonymously from an IP address. Departure– (talk) 18:20, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

:Were you asking about making a donation? Donations are welcome, but far from required. I've left some other useful links, including one about how to set up a user account, on your talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:36, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

There's been a discussion on the talk page for gay men about what the first image in the article should be, and I was wondering how I should go about it. Based on the discussion, I assumed it would be fine to change to the new image (see discussion), but there's an editor who has changed it back to the old image. Did I do something wrong? I tried reading the page for consensus, and I feel like I did everything right, but admittedly I'm new to this type of stuff. Thanks! Qqars (talk) 17:45, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

:@Qqars A week is generally a pretty short time for a discussion to last. That may be why they said the "discussion is not over". Although the discussion was not tagged as a formal request for comment or anything like that. If I were you, I would probably revisit the talk page discussion, tag the user who reverted you in a new comment in that thread, and ask what additional conversation they think needs to happen. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 20:54, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

A back-and-forth in changing the year of birth for Todd Chrisley is ongoing (bordering on edit war at this point, but if that happens, WP:EW guidelines will be followed.) Upon doing research to find a reliable source for finding the DOB, People Magazine contradicts itself in listing the subject as born in 1968 for [https://people.com/todd-julie-chrisley-leaving-nashville-house-released-from-prison-trump-pardon-savannah-11745684 this article] and born in 1969 for [https://people.com/savannah-chrisley-marks-dad-todd-56th-birthday-amid-his-imprisonment-11709186 this article]. People "can be considered a reliable source" per Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources/6 and it was the most reliable source I could find while doing Google searches for reliable sources. Since this is likely an issue for a good number of BLPs on Wikipedia, if the date of birth is contentious, how is that, or how can that be, resolved? Thanks, Rosalina2427 ^(talk) 19:52, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

:The majority of sources said that he's born in 1968 or 1969 ?

:The articles shared with us are from the same magazine.

:You could try to find others sources.

:These articles aren't explicit about the birth year because only his age is mentionned.

:Accorded to the Wikipedia's article "Todd Chrisley" in the version of "JUNE/10/2025" at "16:11 UTC".

:This person is born in "April 6, 1968".

:The first article shared with us is dated from "MAY/30/2025" at "15:56 EDT / 19:56 UTC". He is 57 years old accorded to this article.

:2025 - 57 = 1968 : https://people.com/todd-julie-chrisley-leaving-nashville-house-released-from-prison-trump-pardon-savannah-11745684

:The second article shared with us is dated from "APRIL/06/2025" at "21:22 EDT" or "APRIL/07/2025" at "01:22 UTC". He is 56 years old accorded to this article.

:2025 - 56 = 1969 : https://people.com/savannah-chrisley-marks-dad-todd-56th-birthday-amid-his-imprisonment-11709186 Anatole-berthe (talk) 20:49, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @Rosalina2427. Basically, it can't be resolved. If apparently reliable sources disagree (and sources giving one answer do not greatly outnumber sources giving other answers), then it is not up to Wikipedia editors to choose between them. Either omit the information entirely, or state that the different sources give different information and leave it to the reader to decide what to take away from that. ColinFine (talk) 20:49, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

::In this case. I think that state that the different sources give different information is certainly the better thing to do.

::I prefer to wait that the user try to find others sources that this magazine if this is possible.

::We agree that sources giving one answer do not greatly outnumber sources giving other answers Anatole-berthe (talk) 20:58, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

:::{{reply|ColinFine}} and {{reply|Anatole-berthe}} Thanks for your inputs! I've made the necessary edits [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Todd_Chrisley&diff=prev&oldid=1294966417/ here]. If my edit ends up getting reverted, I'll take the discussion to the article talk page and ping you both while referring to this discussion if you don't mind. Let me know otherwise. Rosalina2427 ^(talk) 22:00, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

::::I accept to be pinged. Anatole-berthe (talk) 01:18, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

: John Wheelwright

Reference number 7 is in red, I'm confused as to why. Please fix if you can. Thank you 115.70.23.77 (talk) 01:37, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

:The year was given as '20225'. I've amended it to read '2025', which I assume was what was wanted - if not, please correct it. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:50, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

Dear sir,

While ago wiki emailed me link to learn how to edit, now can't find that email? Can you please resend me the email on my email address?

Kind regards,

Vesna Mrdjen Vesnamd (talk) 04:44, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

:There are some introductory links at User talk:Vesnamd, do they help? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 05:15, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

I created a new article recently and submitted it for review. It is entitled "Cary Lowe." Now how can I locate it again and see the status of its review? ~~~~ Detroittola (talk) 20:34, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

:Detroittola I had a look at your contributions and see that you created Draft:Cary Lowe, but did not submit it. It is not currently suitable to be an article as it does not cite any sources. You could read Help:Your first article to see what you need to do. When the draft is ready, you can click on the blue "submit the draft for review" button. TSventon (talk) 20:41, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you, but what you saw is a prior version that I deleted. I later created the article from scratch, including a large number of links and sources, and submitted it for review (or tried to). That's the one I can't find a record of in my contributions. Any other suggestions? Detroittola (talk) 06:12, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

:You can always check your previous edits at Special:Contributions/Detroittola. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:43, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{ping|Detroittola}} One thing you may want to note is that, per MOS:SURNAME, you should refer to the subject as "Lowe", not "Cary", throughout the article (except when giving his full name at the very beginning). Also, headings should be in sentence case, not title case. Deor (talk) 23:00, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

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Hi. Please what do to against an aggressive behavior. On HEC Paris, I just [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=HEC_Paris&diff=1296089632&oldid=1293564867 updated without anything new] and JamesEMonroe [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=HEC_Paris&diff=1296089776&oldid=1296089632 delete everything and is very aggressive] : [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=HEC_Paris&diff=1296090257&oldid=1296090116 here] and here. Thanks in advance for your help. 2A01:CB01:1071:F5EA:AC53:9497:FCC3:A971 (talk) 19:21, 17 June 2025 (UTC) Ban-evasion by Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/BobVillars. 184.152.65.118 (talk) 20:20, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

:The OP has been blocked for one week for block evasion. Maproom (talk) 20:02, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

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Hello everyone,

I would like to propose adding a brief mention of an alternative speculative model of consciousness, called the Filter-Flash model, proposed by Nnamdi Michael Okpala (2025).

The Filter-Flash model presents a contrasting view to traditional models of consciousness. It suggests that at birth, individuals experience an unfiltered "field" of information, which is too overwhelming to consciously process. As consciousness develops, the brain builds a protective filtering mechanism that selectively regulates incoming information — helping solve the "easy problem" of consciousness (how information is organized and processed).

The model further suggests that selected, organized information is then flashed into conscious awareness, helping explain individual differences in subjective experience (addressing aspects of the "hard problem" of consciousness). According to this view, variations in subjective experience arise because different individuals filter and flash information differently, influenced by genetics and environment.

This is a speculative, exploratory model — not part of mainstream scientific consensus — but it is documented in personal writings and simulation experiments via OBINexus Computing:

• https://obinexus.medium.com/birh-f142f6e8ed9b
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR9E1K2D8hs
• https://gitlab.com/obinexuscomputing.poc/consciousness

I believe this model could be briefly mentioned in the section on Alternative models of consciousness for completeness and to reflect ongoing conceptual exploration in the field.

I welcome feedback and discussion on whether this would be appropriate to include.

TLDR

A speculative model known as the Filter-Flash model (Okpala, 2025) suggests that consciousness develops through a protective filtering process that regulates information flow (addressing the "easy problem") and through selective "flashing" of organized information into awareness, contributing to variations in subjective experience (aspects of the "hard problem").

(Sources: Medium, YouTube, GitLab with handle @obinexus @obinexusnnamdi)

Thank you! Okpalan (talk) 19:51, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:No. Not going to happen since adding it would violate multiple core Wikipedia policies. We base content on published reliable sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. If you wish to get such material into Wikipedia, it will have to be discussed in depth by such sources first, elsewhere. Only then can we even consider whether it merits inclusion. This is non-negotiable. AndyTheGrump (talk)

:Please also see WP:OR and :WO:COI. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 07:25, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

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I have recently opened a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Speedy deletion#Should the point 3 of G13 be obsoleted?. Other editors agreed with me, but participation has been limited. What are the next steps to change the policy? Is an RFC necessary, or is it an overkill? Or is it enough just to boldly edit the policy page, the corresponding CSD template (I am a template editor.) and to note this change at WP:AN? Thank you for your guidance. Janhrach (talk) 19:37, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{ping|Janhrach}} You should open an RFC for this. The talk page of WP:CSD isn't a broad enough audience for getting consensus on substantive policy changes. Danski454 (talk) 02:35, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

It seems like "similar IPs" (maybe the same person) have been linking to the disambiguation page named Unity Day in the Public holidays in Zambia article. And it looks like it will keep being re-added despite me already undoing the edit a number of times.

There's also the issue of the editor writing "First Tuesday in July" next to Unity Day contrary to what it actually is (i.e. it will be on the Second Tuesday for 2025; Heroes' Day is on the First Monday and Unity Day is the day after).

Where do you recommend I report this matter to? GeographicAccountant (talk) 03:31, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

:Instead of "undoing the edit a number of times", why can't you fix it? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 08:23, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

::@Pigsonthewing Sorry? I didn't realize that "clicking the Undo button" every time I see an incorrect edit and "fixing a wrong" are two different things. As I said, Unity Day is a "disambiguation page" and somebody keeps linking to it in the body of the article, which I believe is against the norms. It seems the last question I asked, which is "where should I report this", has been avoided.

::If anybody went to check out the "edit history" of the Public holidays in Zambia article, they would realize that the way the article is presently is the way it is supposed to be but an IP editor starting with "2a02:aa14:2380:e380:..." would come to the article and make sure that Unity Day (a disambiguation page) is linked to. Every time he/she would do that, I would "undo the edit" but now I don't know if I should keep "clicking the Undo button" or if something else should happen. And this is an IP editor, not a registered user.

::So, one more time, where should I report this? Or should I try to explain again? GeographicAccountant (talk) 13:53, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

:::@GeographicAccountant If you have already tried to discuss this with the other editor (as I see you have on the article's talk page), then the next step is to raise their behaviour at WP:ANI. Read and act on the instructions at the top of that page. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:01, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

::::ANI would be overkill for a case such as this; not least as the OP has yet to leave any comment on the IP editor's talk page (and doing so is one of the first things suggested at the top of ANI); the reverts did not even have edit summaries. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:22, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

:::If somebody links to a disambiguation page, the correct way to fix it is by looking at that page, determining which of the links there was the intended target, and editing the original link to point to that instead. You can find further guidance on this point at Wikipedia:Revert only when necessary.

:::A subsequent courtesy would be to point out on the IP's talk page what you did, so that they can learn from it. Just as people have kindly pointed out your beginner's errors on your talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:17, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

::::I've semi-protected the page anyway Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:21, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::and Andy Mabbett, it's a dynamic address, so talk p[age constantly changing Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:23, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::Thanks for understanding, Jimfbleak. I avoided the editor's talk page for that exact reason (dynamic address), even though it appears that what I did was wrong. And it seems that the one message I left on the "Public holidays in Zambia" talk page did not prevent the editor from returning. Am I even able to "ping" a semi-anonymous editor?

::::::By protecting the page, you solved two issues I witnessed:

::::::# Heroes' Day is on the "first Monday in July" and Unity Day is "the day after" (in this order), as shown [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Public_holidays_in_Zambia&diff=1280984837&oldid=1280326195 here]. But the same IP editor was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Public_holidays_in_Zambia&diff=next&oldid=1280984837 determined] to have it written that Unity Day is on the "First Tuesday of July", which defeats the statement that Heroes' Day always comes first. For 2025, July starts on a Tuesday and this means Heroes' Day is on 7 July (the first Monday), which means Unity Day can only be on 8 July, not 1 July, which shows what was wrong with the IP's edit.

::::::# The Public holidays in Zambia article is not supposed to have links to "disambiguation pages" in the general content. It would only make sense if those disambiguation links were in the "See also" section or at the top of the article in a hatnote, not in the general content. After looking at this advice, I went to make [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Public_holidays_in_Zambia&diff=1280326195&oldid=1280304378 this edit] but the IP editor undid it. I made the correction again and the IP editor undid it again, which led me to believe that that particular editor just does not want to understand what should be linked and what shouldn't be linked (Unity Day is a disambiguation page and not an article with content for people to read).

::::::Honestly, thanks for the help. I appreciate it. GeographicAccountant (talk) 18:09, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::::You are not able to ping IP editors. Best you can do is start a talk page discussion and link it in an article edit summary. If the IP used appears to be stable for more than a day or so, a user talk page post might help. I don't think you did anything majorly wrong here, but I would suggest using edit summaries for every edit. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 18:27, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::::Not one single one of our many guidelines on talk pages, dispute resolution, pre-ANI warnings, or anything of that nature tells you to "avoid the editor's talk page" if the editor is an IP. There's a reason why they don't.

:::::::{{Tq|1="that particular editor just does not want to understand"}} - They have little chance of understanding what you deliberately avoid explaining to them. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:39, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::Three incorrect edits - none of which were properly corrected - in two weeks does not warrant protection. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:28, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

can no longer donate. how do I stop current donation 2601:643:102:A980:40B2:D430:38AB:BF4C (talk) 17:22, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

:We editors have nothing to do with the donation process, which is conducted by the Wikimedia Foundation; you may direct inquiries about your donation to donate@wikimedia.org. 331dot (talk) 17:25, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

::See also :donate:Cancel or change recurring giving which says to email donate@wikimedia.org. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:49, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

{{Clear}}

Sorry if I'm missing something obvious - is there a "find" and "find and replace" feature for editing (ctrl+F and ctrl+H in word processors)? I have a vague memory of it, but can't find it anymore. Helpful Cat🐈(talk) 14:04, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

:@Helpful Cat In the source editor, click on the "advanced" option to show the extra toolbar. Then find & replace is the icon to the far right. There's probably a similar option in the visual editor but I'm less familiar with that. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:33, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

::I see it now, thanks!! Helpful Cat🐈(talk) 14:46, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

{{Clear}}

Note: How I describe this might be confusing.

A lot of people's usernames are pretty unique. The have cool patterns, fonts, and colors to them, and some are also split into their user page and talk page. How does this work? I really want these. Rafaelthegreat (talk) 22:37, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{ping|Rafaelthegreat}} You are referring to signatures. See Wikipedia:Signatures#Customizing your signature. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:28, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

::Ok thanks Rafaelthegreat (talk) 02:01, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello,

I am finding that some articles are incorrect, use outdated or unreliable references or blatantly lie about what is in the references. At times the language used is not neutral or lacks details. On the the few occasions that I make a correction it has been reversed. I have two questions: is Wikipedia supposed to be a source of opinions or facts? How do ensure that while making changes that I do it correctly and stop being accused of violating rules. Many children and grown ups rely on this information to be informative, detailed and neutral. 64.229.80.132 (talk) 05:14, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:1. No, Wikipedia is NOT a place of opinion. We allow ideas and information that are grounded in some realities. But "opinion" depends on context, if someone is reverting your edit that does not mean their is necessarily any opinion based on it. Wikipedia is a place where many volunteer perform edits through their experience and willingness, so any kind of editing is not just "opinion". Reversion is a basic and healthy process in Wikipedia that occurs if the edit is vandalism, hoax or it is unreliable, however in some cases an inexperienced editor might revert edit due negligence, not necessarily due to personal opinion, and this is also rare case. But best way to get help on this matter is to call out the person in his talk pages without disrespect or WP:edit war.

:2. Editing in Wikipedia follows some guidelines:

:a. What you are writing is WP:NPOV and be non-promotional

:b. It should be factual and should have WP:RS

:c. It should serve and improve article rather than just acting as a noise word.

:If you edit follows these then you are welcome and even encouraged to edit. Wh67890 (talk) 07:07, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:Be bold on editing but DO NOT conduct an edit war. Wh67890 (talk) 07:10, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:If somebody reverts you, and you think they were wrong to do so, please follow the process outlined at WP:DR. Due to unconscious biases you may find that you have more success if you edit while signed in to an account. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 08:34, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:IP editor: unfortunately, {{tq|blatantly lie about what is in the references}} is an increasing problem on Wikipedia as more and more people use large language models to write article content, despite strong advice not to do so. If you detect such content, please remove it immediately. One of the key policies here is that article content can be verified from the sources used. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:59, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

::this is the issue that I am worried because nowadays chatgpt research and perplexity like AI provide ready made article even with "sources" that might feel reliable but are very inaccurate. For example see this one, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Justice_Technology, I had to spend hours checking this article if it was written by ai research and I found yes. We have evolved but we need new measures on how to deal with Ai generated content. Wikipedia is only encyclopedia that is available for public and we should our best to improve it. Wh67890 (talk) 14:06, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

So I was inspired and started a corresponding under Hungarian Nobel Prize winners with references proving the Hungarian parentage of the winners.

But it was erased.

It was very factual, so I do not know the real reason.

It should be possible to write under a section like ancestry, since it is factual. 83.185.40.127 (talk) 14:06, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:IP editor. If I understand Talk:List_of_Hungarian_Nobel_laureates#Corresponding_e.g._polish_article_has_section_with_ancestry_including_persons_with_half-polish_ancestry. correctly, the problem is not the idea but the fact that another editor believes you are evading a block on your account. You would have to appeal that block before making further contributions of any type. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:17, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi, do I need to directly make the changes if I've approved a conflict of interest edit request, or is it okay to let them make it themselves? Asking because I saw that "Go ahead" was an option on Template:ECOI and I want to make sure I'm not telling COI editors to break our rules and get in trouble. Thanks, GoldRomean (talk) 13:37, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:Either works. Just be careful not to give the "go ahead" to something very vague. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:14, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

Please guide me how I could make Wikipedia autobiography Tejapermana (talk) 19:11, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{ping|Tejapermana}} You don't. You're better off finding somewhere else to write about yourself. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 19:16, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello {{ping|Tejapermana|p=}}, and welcome to Wikipedia! Please take a look at Wikipedia:Autobiography. The simple answer is: creating an article about yourself is strongly discouraged. The long answer is that the problem with you creating an article about yourself is that you will be biased in writing that article. On Wikipedia, we are very strict about keeping our articles with a neutral point of view, and since you would be writing about yourself, it would be much harder for you to adhere to that. In addition, you would have a conflict-of-interest (please read WP:PSCOI for more information on this) and therefore would have to abide to our policy on paid editing. If you are truly notable, someone else will create an article about you someday. One last point: if someone offers to create an article for you for a fee, this is a scam (read WP:SCAM for more information and what do do just in case that happens). Anyways, have a great day, and let us know if you have any further questions! ‍Relativity ⚡️ 19:17, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi, I have a question about adding a photo to an article. Can I contact the person who holds the credit (if I find their information on the internet via their professional website) and ask them to clear the rights for this image for wikipedia use by sending the email template that I can find in "requesting copyright permission"? Literary Lionheart (talk) 18:59, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:@Literary Lionheart You can ask. I've done so myself on occasion, but I've only asked people who came to WP themselves. And a museum that never replied. If you want, you can point them to Wikipedia:A picture of you, which lists a number of ways to "donate" a picture. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:30, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:Always remember: we do not accept any kind of license which is limited to Wikipedia or to non-profit use; the donating photographer would have to explicitly license the photo for commercial use, for modification and/or other alteration; etc. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:40, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

Is there a way to listen to any articles? Kells212 (talk) 22:55, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:Kells212, Yes see Wikipedia:Spoken articles. TSventon (talk) 23:08, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

::Many of these spoken articles are now way out of date, so you are probably better off using Narrator or a similar text to speech tool. This will also work regardless of whether there is a spoken version.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:04, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

I began what will become a Wikipedia based biographical sketch of Dr. Stanley L. Robbins, MD. I didn't know how to save the work I started and I speculated that Wikipedia saves it automatically. If that's the case, where can I find it? If not, how do I save something that is only partially finished? SWJeff1750 (talk) 18:59, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{ping|SWJeff1750}} You will need to hit "publish page" to save it to Wikipedia's servers. If you did not do that, then everything you wrote has been lost assuming you don't have the edit window open still or didn't back it up to a text document on your computer. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 19:17, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:@SWJeff1750 Your edit history shows that this help desk thread is the only contribution your account has saved so far. The normal place to develop articles is as Drafts (see articles for creation for details. or in your personal sandbox. We advise new editors not to begin by trying to draft new articles, especially biographies as that has many pitfalls such as the need to show how the person is notable as defined by Wikipedia and (if they are still alive) in line with the policy on biographies of living people. Better to begin by learning the ropes through editing some of the seven-million or so existing articles. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:13, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

How do I edit or add executive producers and the right spelling for the record labels VIrudebwoy340 (talk) 02:03, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

:Your most recent edit to Lil' Wil, {{U|VIrudebwoy340}}, comes with the edit summary "Fixed Rudebwoy instead of Rudeboy. Also I am the ceo and lil wil is my artist, so I added the real executive producers that were left out so they can get their credit". (i) As anybody with a phone and a net connection can claim that they're a CEO and that somebody is their artist, we ignore such claims. (ii) As you changed information without providing a reliable source that can verify what you say, other editors (and readers) won't believe you. And (iii) a minor point: You've written in a way that expects there'll eventually be a single article titled "V.I. Rudebwoy,Lil Spain, Jizno Rally/Dj Que/ and pimp and keys". I don't think that's going to happen. -- Hoary (talk) 04:50, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @VIrudebwoy340. If you are the CEO of the company, Wikipedia regards you as a paid editor, and you must read and comply with that. In short:

:# You must make a formal declaration of your status as a paid editor (usually on your user page).

:# You should not directly edit any articles associated with your company. You make raise edit requests, but note that these are unlikely to be complied with unless you provide a reliable published source (and, where possible, a source wholly unconnected with you or your artist).

:ColinFine (talk) 09:26, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

::Investigating out of curiosity, I notice that:

::(a) the Infobox website link "http://www.lilwil.com" goes to an expired domain;

::(b) both Rudeboy Ent and Rudebwoy Ent appear to be valid but separate operations, though the former name is associated with multiple entities/incarnations and the latter might be one of them; and

::(c) On at least one music streaming site, Lil' Wil appears to be associated with Rudebwoy Ent.

::A tangled web? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.6.40.15 (talk) 11:33, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

I'm to curious to know your experiences with editing Wikipedia with both an iPad or a MacBook. I've edited Wikipedia on my iPhone and sometimes, it can be tedious to do compared to a full-sized laptop. If any of you own any of these devices, which device offers the better experience editing Wikipedia? Interstellarity (talk) 13:04, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:See WP:DEVICES. All touch screen devices are less than ideal when it comes to doing the full range of editing, but they should be ok for basic tasks.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 13:32, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:Strongly recommend the laptop (I use an Apple laptop, too), though if you have a full external keyboard that you use with the iPad, that's probably not too bad (the on-screen keyboard is nearly unusable for editing, as you've presumably noticed). A mouse is also helpful just because it's quicker to get to the right insertion/deletion point when editing.

:The desktop version of the site lends itself much better to editing than the mobile version, which is optimized for reading and navigating on small devices. If you're being shown the mobile version, there's a link at the very very bottom of each page to switch to the desktop version. -- Avocado (talk) 12:04, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

I’m seeking assistance regarding a Wikipedia article I’ve written about a Sinhala-language teledrama titled The R.A.T., which was aired on ITN Sri Lanka (a government-owned national broadcaster) in 2024. The article has been declined repeatedly with the comment that it lacks reliable secondary sources to demonstrate notability.

The challenge is that in Sri Lanka:

• Rival media companies rarely cover or promote teledramas aired on ITN, even when they are notable or widely viewed.
• Print newspaper articles about the show do exist (interviews and coverage), but they are not published online, and I only have scanned images of those articles.
• The show reached the top 5 in voting for the prestigious Sumathi Awards 2025, a major TV awards event in Sri Lanka. However, this is promoted only via official Facebook pages of the awards and not in traditional media outlets.

My question is:

• How can I demonstrate notability for this article given the limited availability of online, secondary sources in English or Sinhala?
• Are there alternative ways to provide verification when third-party online sources are culturally or structurally limited?

I would be grateful for your guidance on how to proceed or any exceptions for regional limitations like this.

Thank you very much for your support.

Best regards,

Suneth Koggalahewa Sunethkha (talk) 18:45, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{u|Sunethkha}} If sources are limited, then the subject does not merit an article at this time. There are no exceptions for "regional limitations"- we need to be able to verify what is presented.

:Sources do not need to be online or even scanned to be online- books or periodicals in a library are fine. You only need to provide enough information that someone else could theoretically locate them(publisher, author, publication date, page numbers, etc.) 331dot (talk) 18:51, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:You may want to try the Sinhalese Wikipedia, a separate project with its own policies and editors; they may have different requirements than we do(the English Wikipedia is usually stricter than others). 331dot (talk) 18:52, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

::Than k you! Sunethkha (talk) 12:34, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

{{courtesy link|Draft:Nicholas F. Talesfore}}

Dear Wikipedia Team,

I hope this email finds you well. I'm reaching out to seek help with creating a Wikipedia page for my father, who has made significant contributions to the field of industrial design.

I recently tried to create a user page for him, but I received a message stating that it didn't meet Wikipedia's guidelines. I understand that user pages are not meant for promoting individuals or their work, and I apologize for any confusion.

My goal is to create a neutral and verifiable article about my father's life and work, highlighting his achievements and contributions to the field of industrial design. However, I need guidance on how to proceed and ensure that the article meets Wikipedia's standards.

Could someone please assist me with the following:

- Providing feedback on my draft article

- Helping me understand what sources are required to establish notability

- Guiding me through the process of creating a Wikipedia article

I would greatly appreciate any help or direction you can offer. Please let me know if there's any additional information I need to provide or if you'd like to discuss further.

Thank you in advance for your time and assistance.

Best regards,

Jennifer

Nick Talesfore (talk) 17:06, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

:Chatbot-written threads will not be entertained. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 17:10, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

:@Nick Talesfore Probably because of your relationship to the subject, you have written your draft backwards: that is, you have written what you know but have not backed up the information with reliable sources so that readers can verify everything. Please read all the pages I have linked. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:16, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you for your feedback. I understand your concerns about conflict of interest, but I'd like to clarify that my father is over 80 years old and requires assistance with sharing his story. I'm working closely with him to gather accurate information and ensure that it's presented in a neutral and verifiable manner. To be honest, even for me, the process of creating a Wikipedia page has been quite complicated, and I appreciate your guidance on providing reliable sources to support the content. I'll make sure to review the pages you've linked and do my best to implement them correctly. I have all the necessary sources to back up the information we have written, and I'm committed to getting it right. Thank you again for your help and guidance. Nick Talesfore (talk) 17:55, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Wikipedia is not a place for anyone to share their story; we want to know—that is to say, you should only include—what independent, reputable publications have said about him.

:::If he wants to share his story, Wikipedia:Alternative outlets has some suggested outlets.

:::Also, if you are Jennifer, you should not be using your father's name for an account when writing about him. You can request a rename. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:22, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

::::Thank you for clarifying Wikipedia's policies, Andy. I understand that my father's personal story is not suitable for Wikipedia. However, I'd like to highlight his notable contributions to the development of Channel F gaming system and other industrial achievements, which have been recognized by reputable sources. Id like to know how to properly document these contributions on Wikipedia but this feels well over both our heads. I will have to seek help in another way. Nick Talesfore (talk) 18:58, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::Baby steps! Can you find three sources that meet the requirements at WP:42? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:01, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

She was born in New Jersey not in New York couple years ago, I had an article all about her. It was in the New Jersey magazine and state, she was born in the state of New Jersey not New York 2601:88:8200:9790:6560:8359:5319:EF22 (talk) 02:38, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

: You should bring this up in the talk page of the relevant article, with a specific link or reference to the article. -- Infrogmation (talk) 02:56, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

: The article Ann Hathaway currently cites [https://www.biography.com/actors/anne-hathaway this], which says "Anne Hathaway was born on November 12, 1982, in Brooklyn, New York." Your task, in a new discussion at the foot of Talk:Anne Hathaway, is to cite one, two, or three sources (but no more!) that are more credible than biography.com, are independent of each other, and that say she was born in New Jersey. -- Hoary (talk) 03:35, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

A new user named Someone123454321 keeps restoring their edits despite others telling them not to do that. They're currently at Talk:Finger pinching conspiracy theory#About the gender inequality tag in the article. I've instructed them to visit Teahouse, but they're not going there either. I'm not very good at dealing with newcomers, so can someone else please join the discussion to talk with them? I know these sort of things usually go to RfC or ANI, but I think that's too early at this stage. Emiya Mulzomdao (talk) 03:24, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

:I see that {{u|Someone123454321}} has responded multiple times (I think seven) at Talk:Finger pinching conspiracy theory. Maproom (talk) 07:21, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

::The problem here is that they don't change their behavior after responding and giving apologies. They don't realize their editing has a coherent issue. It's not just me that told them about this, as you can see in User talk:Someone123454321. I don't know how to proceed from here when I told them to ask at Teahouse and this advice is also deflected. Emiya Mulzomdao (talk) 08:01, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

:::I do realize that I've made some mistakes in my earlier edits, but with the edits I made after the talk page, I couldn't nessisarily sense the repetition of the mistakes from what I had apologized before, such as editing the talked topic just after 2 days, or editing for Megalia. After June 7th, which was when I started to have the discussion on the talk page, I couldn't realize any heavy mistakes or biases made, and please point out any if you see one. Someone123454321 (talk) 08:16, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

:Please follow the process described at WP:DR. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:07, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

WP:IUP makes my head spin, and I'm not interested in uploading images anyway, but I'd be grateful if someone could answer this question. I know that it's not allowed to upload a photo of (for example) a celebrity that I found on the internet. Users are, however, allowed to upload photos of celebrities they've taken themselves, which is why so many photos of celebrities on WP are of such markedly poor quality. But what's to stop me taking a photo of a celebrity directly from my TV screen? Surely, in that case, I created the image entirely myself, and therefore I own all rights to it? --Viennese Waltz 11:32, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

:You didn't create the image, the creator of the program created the image. If you watch a TV newscast, at the end it usually says "all rights reserved" in order to prevent someone from doing what you propose. 331dot (talk) 11:35, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

::But we're talking about two images here, the image I see on the screen and the one saved on the memory of my camera. The creator of the program created the image I see on the screen, sure. But I created the image that's saved on my camera. --Viennese Waltz 11:41, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

:::What I'm saying is that is a distinction without a difference. A hypothetical example- If you handwrite a copy of The Hunger Games novel, or take pictures of its pages, and then go and try to sell them as a copy of the novel, you will be quickly sued by Suzanne Collins and her publisher. 331dot (talk) 11:47, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

::::OK, that makes sense. But which section of WP:IUP explicitly forbids doing this? --Viennese Waltz 11:52, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::"Own work: You own all rights to the image, usually meaning that you created it entirely yourself. In case of a photograph or screenshot, you must also own the copyright for all copyright-protected items (e.g. statue or app) that appear in it"(my emphasis) If you take an image of a TV screen in order to get an image of a celebrity, you must own the copyright to everything in the image(including the program you are taking an image of). 331dot (talk) 12:04, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::The part that links to WP:List of policies#Legal. The hypothetical picture you wish to take would be a derivative work and is not a way to get round the originator's rights. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:06, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

::Let's avoid the risk of misunderstanding here, Viennese Waltz. In order to claim copyright ("All rights reserved"), it's not necessary for a copyright holder to announce "©", "All rights reserved", or similar. Assume that any TV program is conventionally copyright ("© All rights reserved") unless you can produce clear evidence that it isn't. -- Hoary (talk) 12:12, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

I need help. I uploaded an image for the Dexter episode The Dark Defender and the caption and image section just isn't working and I don't know why. It has happened before and it makes me irritable. Could you please tell me what is wrong or correct the situation? Stadt64 (talk) 22:39, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

:It has already been fixed, Stadt64. (What was wrong was prefixing the filename with File:.) -- Hoary (talk) 02:36, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

::Although I fixed that particular problem, what was actually preventing the image from appearing is that Stadt64 added {{para|image}} and {{para|caption}} fields to the infobox when those fields (empty) were already present lower down in the infobox. In such a case, what gets displayed is whatever's in the second of the two identical fields—in this case, nothing. That was fixed in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Dark_Defender&diff=prev&oldid=1295461999 this edit] by Davemck. Deor (talk) 12:12, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you! Stadt64 (talk) 13:09, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

@ 105.113.63.11 (talk) 13:42, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

:What is your question? 331dot (talk) 13:50, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

A person named Sabrina has taken our money by working under your company's name. Apurba chadni (talk) 16:20, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

:If you are referring to Wikipedia as a "company", unfortunately it seems that you were scammed; see WP:SCAM for more information. 331dot (talk) 16:26, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

After creating a login id, some days ago I made a major revision to the Jerome McGann wiki page but I have no idea where it went or what I have to do to get it to replace the seriously inadequate page now offered on wiki.InternalExile (talk) 16:38, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

:This is explained on your talk page and in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jerome_McGann&action=history edit history of Jerome McGann]. The specific revert was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jerome_McGann&diff=prev&oldid=1293133876 here] and the main problem is that all of this is unsourced material. The tone is also less than neutral.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 16:43, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @InternalExile. A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what several people wholly unconnected with the subject have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, and very little else. Wikipedia has essentially no interest in what the subject, or the subject's associates, say or want to say.

:If you want to work on the article Jerome McGann, by far the most useful thing you could do is to find several sources that meet all the criteria in golden rule - reliability, independence, and significant coverage - and make sure the article is essentially a summary of what those sources say, removing any unsourced material, and the majority of material that is sourced only to non-indpendent sources such as his homepage.

: Please see WP:RS for information on what constitutes a reliable source, and WP:REFB for how to go abot citing sources in an article. ColinFine (talk) 19:22, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

no notice or request just disappeared

Donald L Patrick 174.61.169.51 (talk) 18:40, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:See WP:SCAM; I really hope that you didn't pay thousands, as you were led up the garden path if any payment was made. Perhaps an admin can expand on this if the article is deleted somewhere.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 18:48, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

::There is a page at Draft:Donald L. Patrick. It seems the person (a declared paid editor) who created the article moved it there. Waste of money paying people for articles. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 18:50, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:::{{ec}} ::Article was "Draftified" and moved to Draft:Donald L. Patrick by {{U|HRShami}}. It appears that based on comments involved in other articles that he created in that his work on them represented undisclosed paid editing and that moving them to Draftspace is part of his effort to deal with that by having other people look at them there before moving them to mainspace. I suggest you bring it up with them and/or the company you paid.Naraht (talk) 18:57, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

::::Yes, that is correct Naraht. It will be returned to the mainspace after other editors have reviewed it.HRShami (talk) HRShami (talk) 03:32, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

::{{small|If you did pay thousands, I hope it was in KRW. —Tamfang (talk) 20:45, 14 June 2025 (UTC)}}

So i want to write like, a fictional planet or star on my sandbox page. Can i do that? EpicCoder (talk) 05:59, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

:See Help:My sandbox. Your sandbox is a place to practice editing or build a draft article. So, you could write about your fictional planet or star while practicing writing an article, but if you leave the material there too long it might get nominated for deletion as a fake article or under WP:NOTWEBHOST. Do not label it as a draft, do not move it to draft space, and definitely do not move it to article space. Meters (talk) 06:20, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

:Always remember, Wikipedia is not a webhost. We will not allow our server space to be used to store or work on your fictitious astronomy. --Orange Mike | Talk 01:42, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

What do I need to do to create my own Wikipedia profile? What do I need to do to prove that there is false information on someone that has a Wikipedia profile. Thank you. 207.178.108.122 (talk) 16:26, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

:We don't deal in "profiles". We deal in encyclopaedia articles. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 16:32, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

::"Profile" is perfectly acceptable lay-person's terms for an article about a person. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:48, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

:If there is an article with incorrect information, what you may do depends-

:# If there is no source for the information, it should be removed.

:# If there is a source for the information, but it is not being accurately summarized, please detail the errors on the talk page, or edit to make the information in the article match the information that appears in the given source.

:# If the source is accurately summarized, but the source is in error, you will need to contact the source to get them to correct their information, and/or provide Wikipedia with more current sources with more accurate information.

:331dot (talk) 16:38, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

:And to answer your first question: you are strongly discouraged from writing about yourself in Wikipedia, but not forbidden. Your chances of success are small if you meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability: they are zero if you don't meet those criteria (like most of us). See autobiography. ColinFine (talk) 17:39, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

:If you wanna write something about you in Wikipedia, you can create an account and write it in your userpage. But creating an autobiography is discouraged and you also have to be notable. drinks or coffee ~ ♪ 09:35, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Why Wikipedia is not so great

I added the issue of WP:TWRFC to the essay titled "Why Wikipedia is not so great", but my edits were swiftly reverted. The editor who reverted my addition said, "Likewise, advocacy of fringe POV and pushing of fringe content and conspiracy theories is not tolerated., and I have already explained to you that your interpretation on WP:TWRFC is incorrect." But essays are described as follows, "Some essays represent widespread norms; others only represent minority viewpoints", so not having differing viewpoints in an essay on Wikipedia policies kind of defeats the purpose of having an essay in the first place. Is it fine for me to restore my addition to the essay? I do not believe my view is considered WP:FRINGE. I was not pushing medical quackery, flat earth theories or anything of that nature. Félix An (talk) 03:23, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

:@Félix An No, you should discuss this with the reverting editor. See WP:BRD. Shantavira|^{feed me} 07:20, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

: Your edit included the comment that {{Tq|1="Now that the denizens of the talk page have achieved their goals, they are quick to counter any dissenting opinions with 'reliable sources' that fit their agenda."}} You will need to show that consensus to include such a dramatic statement exists. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:26, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

: Dananeer Mobeen

I had requested for protection removal a few days ago but could not get any response from admins nd today I have atgain requested and atached some references whose prove that it is a famous actress meets notability guidelines. Either its protection should be removed so that I can write an article according to a Wikipedia guideline sor one of the admins can write this article. [https://samaa.tv/2087329679-has-dananeer-mobeen-overshadowed-ahad-raza-mir-in-meem-se-mohabbat], [https://wailytimes.com.pk/1223929/dananeer-set-to-play-lead-role-in-meem-se-mohabbat/amp/], [http://english.aaj.tv/news/330415326], [https://tribune.com.pk/story/2283925/explainer-who-is-dananeer-mobeen-1?amp=1], [https://images.dawn.com/news/1186596/from-a-meme-to-a-million-pawri-continues-for-dananeer-as-she-hits-1m-followers-on-instagram], [https://www.gndiatoday.in/amp/trending-news/story/remember-pawri-ho-rahi-hai-girl-dananeer-mobeen-she-now-features-in-this-pakistani-show-2376824-2023-05-09], [https://www.samaa.tv/208735193-dananeer-mobeen-faces-backlash-over-palestine-support-comment], [https://www.samaa.tv/index.php/208732261-lsa-2023-from-dananeer-to-bilal-abbas-khan-full-list-of-winners] Behappyyar (talk) 02:43, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

:Here's a third, far better option, Behappyyar: You can improve Draft:Dananeer Mobeen (actress). If you (or some other editor(s)) can do so in a way that complies with en:Wikipedia's policies, then it can be promoted to full article status. -- Hoary (talk) 04:20, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thanks. And if I want to work afresh, can I draft in the name of Draft:Dananeer Mobeen? Behappyyar (talk) 04:39, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

:::The disruption was so bad that even that draft-space name is blocked from creation by many users. Fortunately, you are WP:XC, so you should be able to use it. DMacks (talk) 06:28, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

::::Thanks for response. I'll make the draft soon and work on it. Behappyyar (talk) 17:11, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

:::There would then be two drafts about the same person, Behappyyar. That's a very undesirable situation. If you don't like the current content of Draft:Dananeer Mobeen (actress), then improve the content. You are of course welcome to replace parts and to simply remove parts. If or when the result is "accepted", the article can be titled plain "Dananeer Mobeen" (not "Dananeer Mobeen (actress)"). -- Hoary (talk) 09:28, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

::::I know that, but it is better to start from a beginning and yes I aslo was thinking of credit for the article creation. Whoever will work should also get credit. Behappyyar (talk) 17:06, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

AI crawlers have grouped my professional profile with my father's - attributing my book to him posthumously. I would like to create a short page to differentiate myself. I wrote something that is part of my user profile, but it's not searchable. Can you advise? I'm very low-skilled on wikipedia so any advice needs to be simple. Tnedrandolph (talk) 19:14, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{u|Tnedrandolph}} Hello and welcome. Your user page("profile") is not article space, and not searchable by search engines.

:It's unfortunate, but needing to affect AI crawlers is not sufficient reason to merit a Wikipedia article- you need to be shown to meet the definition of a notable person broadly or more narrowly a notable creative professional, shown through summarizing significant coverage in independent reliable sources. You can create and submit a draft via the Article Wizard, but autobiographical articles are highly discouraged, see the autobiography policy.

:You'd probably need to contact those that run the AI to ask them to make a correction- honestly probably not an easy task. 331dot (talk) 19:25, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

:What might help is to have a Wikidata item about you, and one for the book, so I made these: {{Q|Q134878282}}; {{Q|Q134878178}}. There is already one for your father: {{q|Q16106057}}, and they are now all linked together. Please see :d:User:Pigsonthewing/About you for info on being in Wikidata. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:14, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you. Can I add to it by putting III after my name and adding Orcid# (0000-0002-3421-8900) and a Google Scholar profile? Tnedrandolph (talk) 17:12, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

:::I've added "Ned Randolph III" as an alias, but you're known as "Ned Randolph" in many places, so we keep that as the main label.

:::I've also added the ORCID iD, but please do add the GS profile. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:41, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, I just signed up to be an editor but I need to change my user name. Is this possible to do, or should I create a new account? WSlleaf (talk) 20:52, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @WSlleaf. You can change your username: see WP:CHU. However, since this is your only edit, you could just as easily abandon this account and create a new one. ColinFine (talk) 21:08, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

He flew in Lancasters. He was awarded DFC and bar. He had two children - Sarah, older sister and son Richard Douglas - known as Douglas (Doug). Douglas married in 199? to Sarah Catherine Moore - now Sarah Siddons, although now divorced. Mr. Siddons Sr was a hero, hence his medals, which you can clarify and his page should reflect a wonderfully amazing man.

I never met my father-in-law, but I believe the ‘war’ on a gentle man, played a huge part in his very sad and upsetting ‘suicide’. He deserves more respect in his write up. I observe his duty and loss every year. Please give him the respect he surely deserves. Thank you. Sincerely Sarah Siddons (ex-wife to Douglas). 2A00:23C8:4895:B601:3067:8A79:F1E8:D93F (talk) 16:35, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

:We're not going to write a eulogy for him. And frankly, almost all the sources cited in the article on him are unacceptable, being mostly user-generated content such as IMDb and Find A Grave. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 16:39, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

::However, there are also sources like [https://archive.org/details/masterbombersexp0000feas/page/n7/mode/2up?q=Siddons]. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:04, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

:Sarah Siddons, welcome to Wikipedia. The Harold Siddons article is supposed to be a summary of reliably published sources about Harold Siddons. Being his relative, you are in a good position to know some good ones. It can be helpful if you go to Talk:Harold Siddons and mention the best you know of, I'll watch that page and see what happens, we can talk further there if you like. Consider also WP:REGISTER. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:11, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

::To further elaborate on what Grabergs says, we accept offline sources (relevant here since the subject died before the Internet was widespread), so we'd want print sources (newspapers, news magazines, scholarly books) over anything online. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 17:13, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

:::But we don't mind using online pay-walled newspaper archives at all. I have on a couple of occasions cooperated with relatives of article-subjects who put scans of old articles on google drive or similar, this can work quite well. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:25, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Again, I regret that British Newspaper Archive was taken away from the Wikipedians. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:33, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Some useful hits at newspapers.com, though. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:43, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

::::Sarah, noting your likely age, do you have a younger person who could help you with this? It can be quite challenging to get a Wikipedia page updated, so asking a younger person to help might be a good idea. All the best. Blackballnz (talk) 00:24, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

: Napster

I am not sure which of the various logos is best to add (and would satisfy fair use). See [https://logos.fandom.com/wiki/Napster Napster | Logopedia] . Can someone here add the best logo to the article's infobox? _{Piotrus at Hanyang| reply here} 07:04, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

:@Hanyangprofessor2 Done. I went with the one from https://www.instagram.com/napster/. It's possible Commons would accept this one, being pretty simple, but I'm not sure. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:04, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

::@Gråbergs Gråa Sång Thanks for making the call. I think we could make an argument for adding their distinct historical logo under fair use too...? _{Piotrus at Hanyang| reply here} 02:50, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Perhaps, but I think more clearly so if it was mentioned/discussed in the article. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 02:56, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

i don't know how to fix this, it shows the right email, but no code 2601:8A:4001:F460:319B:67AE:8CCE:B98A (talk) 03:18, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

:Check your "junk/spam" folder. Moxy🍁 03:22, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

I plan on changing the name of a pre-existing infobox parameter ("long" to "length" on Template:Infobox artifact). Is it possible to have a bot update articles to use the new name? RajanD100 (talk) 01:38, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

:Definitely! Or at least a semi-automated script for what sounds like a one-time task. Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Tasks is probably the place to request it. DMacks (talk) 12:40, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

{{Clear}}

Hello,

I translated an article from a Wikipedia in another language into English.

It's now under a personal draft.

I placed down the Afc submission template on the talk page, but it tells me at the bottom that it should probably be under the regular draft page. But I usually translate FROM English, so I don't have a permission to move it to a regular draft on the English Wikipedia.

Is it fine for it to stay as a personal draft?

Thank you!

CRplayz7 (talk) 14:42, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

:Update: I also tried adding tags to the draft and it didn't let me because it's not in the draft namespace. I'm really confused. CRplayz7 (talk) 14:44, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

::Your account is WP:Autoconfirmed so you should be able to move it yourself. - Arjayay (talk) 15:04, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Worked! Thank you! CRplayz7 (talk) 15:45, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

{{Clear}}

Refs number 104 and 105 are exactly the same, can you fix this please?

Thanks 49.199.153.245 (talk) 08:10, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

:They were just duplicates at the same part of the text, so I deleted one. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:20, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

When you insert a citation automatically from newspapers.com, it adds it as a cite web and puts the date, the page number, the newspaper and the website in as the title (eg. "Apr 15, 2011, page 21 - News and Record at Newspapers.com") meaning that either you have to insert the citation manually or switch to source editing (or put up with it).

With newspapers.com being such a common source, does anyone know what the process is for getting the way, citations from the site are processed, changed?

(cf. Google book references, which get processed better).

Thanks, MmeMaigret (talk) 04:54, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

:The tool that does that is WP:CITOID. Please raise the issue on Wikipedia talk:The Wikipedia Library/Citoid or raise a ticket in Phabricator. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:23, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

::{{ping|Mmemaigret}} Please always include a reproducible example, in this case a url, when you report an issue. I tried https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/18240005/ and got the date in the date field:

::{{Cite web |date=1977-05-12 |title=Blue Island Sun-Standard from Blue Island, Illinois |url=https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/18240005/ |access-date=2025-06-15 |website=Newspapers.com |language=en-US}}

::Citoid uses an external tool Zotero where a change should probably be but it's hard to say without your url. The code is at https://github.com/zotero/translators/blob/master/newspapers.com.js. With your url I would first test whether another Zotero user like https://zbib.org/ gets a similar result. I'm not a GitHub user. https://github.com/zotero/translators/issues has a "New issue" button which leads to a login screen. You should absolutely give an example url if you post there. If you only post to Phabricator where somebody might pass it on to Zotero then obviously also give a url. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:17, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

:::@PrimeHunter Thanks, I'll try to post to Phabricator. (Btw: the url for my examples was https://www.newspapers.com/image/960939224) MmeMaigret (talk) 14:59, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

::::{{ping|Mmemaigret}} https://zbib.org/ gives the same title and the HTML source of the page says: : It would require a change at Zotero to split out the date. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:46, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

There are other routes, are there? Could I submit a draft of my new article to a highly-trafficked WP page and ask someone else with a username to create it for me? Where does that happen?

Or do I need to dust off the usernames I haven't used in many years to start an article myself?

I'd like to remain anonymous and contribute anonymously these days. I don't like to be remembered with a memorable username because some rogue users could remember me for the wrong reasons. --2600:100A:B055:D419:AD97:AC5:ECB4:402 (talk) 21:57, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

:IPs may submit a draft via the Article Wizard. 331dot (talk) 22:08, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

:And you're much more anonymous if you make an account. No need for the username to be memorable. —Cryptic 22:26, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

:If you're worried about privacy, I would recommend an account. As Cryptic said, it doesnt have to be memorable or connected to your identity in any way. Also remember that with some technical know-how, an IP adress may be able to be traced back to the rough location of your ISP. TheDowningStreetCat (talk) 23:35, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

:Yes, I strongly recommend getting a username. It make you much more private than using an IP address. Two clicks and zero technical knowledge tells me you're probably in Kansas. HiLo48 (talk) 01:00, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

::Hi, same IP user from the 14th here. Kansas has nearly 3M people so I'm not concerned, but thanks for letting me know. --2600:8803:1D13:7100:6B31:6625:C71B:876D (talk) 19:29, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

I do not receive the 2FA code to log in to my account. I have verified that I have no problem receiving email to my gmail account associated with my logon. I have verified my spam folder. 70.121.17.97 (talk) 19:37, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

I noticed the mistakes I made in the page i created. I have made the necessary changes and submitted a dispute to be reviewed. How do I know if the changes will be implemented? please help Muamba Kevin Mubenga (talk) 03:23, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

:@Muamba Kevin Mubenga, hi. If you're new to wikipedia, the teahouse is probably the best place to ask for help. The help you'll get there is more oriented to new editors. If you're talking about your userpage, it is nominated for speedy deletion because it contains material not related to wikipedia. Your userpage should be a record of your profile as it relates to editing wikipedia. I haven't checked the links, but it looks like it might be promotional aswell. If you're talking about another page, it would be helpful if you linked to it here. As I said though, the teahouse is a better place for this. TheDowningStreetCat (talk) 04:24, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

Illinois - Reference Request Update

Our IL Corn website has updated and this was used as a source for your ethanol resources. Source #228 - Ethanol Fact Sheet - Illinois Corn Growers Association. 2010. Please use this link: https://irp.cdn-website.com/c2b3ed38/files/uploaded/Ethanol_Facts_%28800_x_2500_px%29.pdf - or this one: https://www.ilcorn.org/ethanol for ethanol resources and stats. Tdesmond2025 (talk) 21:29, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

:@Tdesmond2025 Thanks for wanting to improve that part of the article. I've taken a look and it is a bit complicated since the agriculture section currently includes comparison statements like "ranks second" and "ranking third" for various dates. Hence it isn't as simple as swapping the sourcing but will require some re-writing. In view of your conflict of interest, I think it would be best if you could use the edit request wizard to specify on Talk:Illinois what exact change should be made, based on your knowledge of the sources. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:32, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

{{Clear}}

At 10.50 this morning, an IP added an unsourced DoB at Phil LaMarr [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Phil_LaMarr&diff=1296963101&oldid=1296962549 Phil LaMarr: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia].
At 10.52 I tried to revert it, but my edit was blocked because "Your edit was not saved because it contains a new external link to a site registered on Wikipedia's blacklist or Wikimedia's global blacklist."
Clearly, simply reverting that edit did not contain "a new external link". Furthermore, unless the website was added to the blacklist in the intervening 2 minutes, it appears that IPs can avoid having their edits blocked by the blacklist, but registered users are caught by it. What is going on? - Arjayay (talk) 11:12, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:I've reverted it. The IP's edit didn't close the comment tag, so most of the article - presumably including a blacklisted site - didn't render at all. —Cryptic 11:31, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thanks Cryptic - Arjayay (talk) 11:35, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

You have mentioned that southasia patly lies in southern hemesphere which is totally incorect. As we can see 95% of south Asia lies in Northern hemesphere. "Please consider the issue" 223.184.217.133 (talk) 13:06, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

:Please link the page you refer to. Anyway, "partly" can be a small part. If "95% of south Asia lies in Northern hemesphere" then that would leave 5% in the Southern Hemisphere. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:29, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

:The Maldives are in South Asia, and are partly south of the equator. Maproom (talk) 14:55, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi all. How to resolve a number of disagreements, if they (or some of them) are not being seen or responded through the :WP:3O? M. Billoo 16:53, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

:WP:Dispute resolution? DonIago (talk) 18:45, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello Im inquiring about adding myself to wikipedia here is my info www.Bobbyjoebell.com Bjb9269 (talk) 19:08, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

:We aren't really concerned about what you think you 'need'. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, with content based on in-depth coverage in independent reliable sources sufficient to meet out notability criteria - for musicians see WP:MUSICBIO. If, but only if, such sourcing can be found, you should read Wikipedia:Autobiography - we don't absolutely prohibit writing about oneself, but it is strongly discouraged. And content needs to be neutrally worded, and cited to published sources. If you go ahead, you will need to submit a draft for approval. And note in particular that if an article about you is approved, you will have no editorial control over it. Having a Wikipedia biography doesn't always turn out to be a good thing. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:18, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

Game of Thrones season 8#Reception has a graph that used the now-unsupported Graph extension. It needs to be converted to the Chart extension, but I don’t know how to do that. Yyannako (talk) 01:07, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

:[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Chart have you tried reviewing this?] Moxy🍁 01:29, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

::I don't know what any of that means. It's all Greek to me. 😵‍💫 Yyannako (talk) 03:52, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

:::I'm wondering if this is a request that {{ping|GalStar}} can help with. Moxy🍁 23:51, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

::::Thanks for the ping. @Yyannako This uses Template:Television Rotten Tomatoes scores. However the new chart extension only supports static data; I don't think there is a simple way to do this. This falls in the same category as the airport and historical demographics templates. GalStar (talk) 03:23, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

this exhibition has barely any information on WikiData. That's why the infobox only displays the exhibition name. Aside from researching this exhibition myself (I'll pass, thanks) what can be done? Oona Wikiwalker (talk) 02:04, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{tl|Infobox exhibition}} has {{parameter|fetchwikidata}} defaulting to none. I have added some of the local values in the presumably originally substituted infobox that was removed in this diff. Sam Sailor 07:40, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello. I am the person responsible for creating (patenting) the world's first basketball bag in 1994. I have always wanted to also put on Wikipedia as it deserves this placement in history. I have every supporting document, samples, news articles in national publications, etc from back in the 1990's-2000's when we were manufacturing and distributing them worldwide. How do I approach listing it on Wikipedia? Thank you.

NOTE: For more details and information please feel free to search "Basketball Bags" on Facebook, or send me an email for full details. 24.248.172.112 (talk) 05:32, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

:Please see Your first article. Generally speaking, you should not write about things with which you are personally involved. Also, there would have to be significant coverage to make a separate article.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 05:55, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

:I've got to be sceptical about anyone claiming to have created 'the world's first basketball bag' in 1994. It seems rather unlikely that nobody ever tried stuffing one into some sort of bag before then... AndyTheGrump (talk) 09:39, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

:Quick bit of googling, and I don't see any information about the worlds first basketball bag. Even if it really took until 1994 for someone to make a bag for basketballs, it can't have an article if there are no reliable secondary sources published about it. TheDowningStreetCat (talk) 11:04, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

:If you have at least three news articles (which fall into the category of Secondary sources) from multiple Reliable-source national-level publications that are

::(i) independent of yourself/your company (so not based on interviews or press releases), and

::(ii) of substantial length rather than just passing mentions or entries in listings,

:then an article that summarises the material in them should meet Wikipedia's Notability requirements provided it is properly formatted and every included statement (sentence by sentence) is correctly cited to the sources with their bibliographical details (and online links if available, though these are not essential) which will be listed in a References section at the article's end.

:Internal documents, samples etc. would be considered Primary sources, which are not eligible for establishing Notability. Published sources not independent of the subject (such as company websites) can be used sparingly to corroborate minor, non-controversial facts.

:Read the quick guide at WP:Golden rule and if you think you have suitable sources, create a Draft using Wikipedia:Articles for creation and, when you think it is ready, submit it for review. If it is Declined for improvements, follow the advice given and try again – there will likely be several rounds of this (which is normal).

:Note that, to do this successfully, you must forget everything you personally know about the subject and write the draft based ONLY on the material in the published Reliable sources – this is not easy, which is why we discourage (though not forbid) people from writing about subjects connected to themselves.

:You will also need to make a Conflict of Interest declaration on your Talk page (provided your IP is not dynamic) and perhaps also on the Talk page of the draft, so that everybody understands the situation. If you open a User account it would make things easier (as other editors can then more easily give you links to advice), but this is not a requirement (see Wikipedia:Why create an account?).

:If you still want to go ahead – good luck! {The poster formerly known as 87.81,.30.195} 94.11.213.205 (talk) 00:47, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

::How is a basketball bag going to differ in any major way from a soccer ball bag? — Preceding unsigned comment added by HiLo48 (talk • contribs) 01:17, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Looking at those for sale on line (of various designs) it's bigger because basketballs are lighter than soccerballs so you can carry more. Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:49, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

::::In what world are basketballs lighter that footballs? - Roxy the dog 08:52, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::I think the IP is referring to a sportsbag for one person with a room for a single basketball and other rooms for things like clothes and a water bottle. The "first" claim is probably based on having a round basketball-sized room and being marketed for basketball. Google found [https://www.facebook.com/BasketballBags/videos/1012849245533489/ HoopSaq] which claims to be the world's first "Basketball Bag" from 1994. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:39, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

I work for a small newspaper and in the past week I discovered that our editor has been committing widespread plagiarism, copying many of his articles from various other news sources and publishing them word-for-word with himself named as the author. I found that he has been copying Wikipedia articles for use in the children's paper we also publish. He names himself as the author and gives no attribution of any kind for the text or the pictures he also uses. I am wondering if anyone has some advice on how I should handle this. 68.65.61.228 (talk) 15:23, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

:You could try explaining that attribution is required for Wikipedia content, in case they were not aware (they would not be the first to not know this). Whether or how you do that, and at what risk, is entirely your own problem, but it might be an interesting lesson in tact and diplomacy. Perhaps one of your, errm, readers could highlight the issue in a letter to the editor. I suppose the alternatives, if they don't care about plagiarism or copyright, include resigning, consulting a union, and performing a coup, depending on your individual circumstances. Don't listen to career advice from strangers on the Internet. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 15:59, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

The editor used to warn me as I typed a dab link, and it doesn't do that anymore. For example, I type CBC and within a few seconds it would offer to help me disambiguate it. Is this a feature that's now disabled, or did I turn it off somehow? —Anomalocaris (talk) 20:01, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{ping|Anomalocaris}} It works for me. Does it work in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&action=edit&safemode=1 safemode]? Does it work if you log out? What is your browser or device? PrimeHunter (talk) 20:13, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

::PrimeHunter: I use Windows 11 and I usually use Firefox. I clicked your safe mode link and typed

::: [ [Mercury]] could be a planet, a mythological figure, or an element.

:: (without the space in [ [) and waited a few minutes and nothing happened. Then I went to Microsoft Edge, where I wasn't logged in, logged in, and edited my sandbox, and it didn't act on dab links. Then I logged out on Microsoft Edge, and the editor dab detector worked normally. So I logged back in again and the editor dab detector stopped working. I tried changing from Monobook to Vector (2022) and that didn't turn the editor dab detector back on. Also, in Firefox, the editor dab detector works only when I'm not logged in. So it's something about my settings and it doesn't depend on which browser I'm using. —Anomalocaris (talk) 22:02, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:::{{ping|Anomalocaris}} If it fails in safemode then it's not a gadget or user script which causes the failure. Are you using the same editor when you are logged out and logged in? If you cannot immediately see large differences then it's probably the same editor. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:29, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

::::PrimeHunter: The editor dab detector works normally when I am logged out, or when I am logged in and editing in French, German, Italian, Polish, Portuguese, Spanish, or Vietnamese Wikipedia (these are the only ones I tried). The editor dab detector does not work in English Wikipedia when I am logged in, regardless of Edge or Firefox, regardless of normal or safe mode. If I am logged in, start to edit an article, and log out, a dialog box pops up with "This page is asking you to confirm that you want to leave — information you've entered may not be saved". If I stay on the page, the editor dab detector continues not to work. Conversely, if I am editing and not logged in, and I try to log in, if I answer the same dialog box question "stay on page", that aborts the login. But if I log in using a different browser tab, the editor tab does not "know" that I am logged in and the editor dab detector continues to work. But if I "Show preview", the page changes to logged in status and the editor dab detector stops working.{{pb}}The most recent significant change I made to my preferences was adding a line to User:Anomalocaris/common.js, viz importScript('User:Ohconfucius/script/MOSNUM dates.js'); // Backlink: User:Ohconfucius/script/MOSNUM dates.js , and as you would expect, removing this line did not fix the problem. It would be good find out what is going on, because this might be affecting a probably small set of other users. —Anomalocaris (talk) 05:44, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::{{ping|Anomalocaris}} User scripts don't run in safemode so if it fails there then there is no need to test your js and css pages. Are you using the same editor when you are logged out and logged in? Here "editor" means the editing interface, for example source editor or VisualEditor, syntax highlighting, and menus above and below the edit box. You don't have to compare everything but does it look similar? PrimeHunter (talk) 10:36, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::PrimeHunter: Repeated experiments with safemode, logged in, the editor dab detector does not work. I avoid VisualEditor and use it only on those rare occasions when I have to see what it looks like so I can explain something to another editor. For all of the experiments in this discussion, I used the regular source editor. I don't use syntax highlighting. My logged in editor has no menus or toolbar. It has: editing window; insert special characters tool; Edit summary field; a line with check boxes for minor edit and Watch this page; [Publish changes] [Show preview] [Show changes] [Citations] Cancel Editing help .{{pb}}Logged out editor has: Toolbar starting with B I; editing window; insert special characters tool; Edit summary field; [Publish changes] [Show preview] [Show changes] Cancel.{{pb}}—Anomalocaris (talk) 19:39, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::::{{ping|Anomalocaris}} You say the toolbar isn't there logged in. I tried to disable "Enable the editing toolbar" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing. The toolbar went away as expected but so did the disambiguation warnings. I don't know why they are tied to the toolbar. Do you have the toolbar disabled in preferences and if so, does it work to enable it? PrimeHunter (talk) 19:55, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::::I'm not Anomalocaris, but I have the editing toolbar enabled and the warnings aren't working for me. Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 20:01, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

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It's not working for me either. Windows 10, Firefox, source editor, I tested with Kingfisher (disambiguation). It works when logged out (tested with Firefox in private mode as well as in Basilisk) in the source editor. It doesn't work in safemode when logged in. This has already caused me to accidentally add a dab link to an article once because I rely on this feature, so it's a bit frustrating. Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 19:53, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:PrimeHunter: I checked the box for Enable the editing toolbar (This is sometimes called the '2010 wikitext editor'.) and saved. I started a new edit. Editor dab detector works now. But I don't want the toolbar, so it would be good for the editor dab detector to work with or without the toolbar. —Anomalocaris (talk) 20:24, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

::{{ping|Anomalocaris}} :mw:Help:Extension:Disambiguator#Warning editors about linking to disambiguation pages says: "When using the WikiEditor, a notification warns editors about linking to a disambiguation page after they type the link". The mentioned WikiEditor makes the toolbar so it's apparently known behaviour. Did you disable the toolbar recently? If you enable the toolbar but hide it with the following in {{yourcss}} then the dab detector still works. Does that work for you?

::

1. wikiEditor-ui-toolbar {display:none;}

::PrimeHunter (talk) 20:48, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:::.....then why isn't it working for me when I have the editing toolbar enabled? And why did it only recently stop working for Anomalocaris if it's always been tied to the toolbar? Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 21:00, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:::PrimeHunter: Yes, that line takes away the toolbar and keeps the editor tab detector for me, but we still need to understand why Suntooooth doesn't have the editor dab detector. —Anomalocaris (talk) 03:04, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

:::PrimeHunter: It's not an acceptable solution. When I click on a lint error edit link, the editing window immediately scrolls to the top, instead of showing highlighted lint error in the editing window. Unchecking "Enable the editing toolbar" makes the problem go away. —Anomalocaris (talk) 09:37, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

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It has changed. Lint error edit links open with editing window immediately scrolling to the top whether or not I have the editing toolbar checked. Yes, I'm shouting. —Anomalocaris (talk) 19:12, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

:Status report: Lint error links now work correctly. The editor dab detector now works when I have checked the box for Enable the editing toolbar, whether or not I have suppressed the toolbar in my CSS file. It would be great if the dab detector worked without checking the box for Enable the editing toolbar. —Anomalocaris (talk) 19:43, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

I'm working on creating a page for a company that has lots of Google articles/media articles to use as resources to support it. I'm wondering how long it takes to submit the page and know if it's approved or not? Is that a matter of days, weeks, months? 75.34.224.55 (talk) 18:15, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

:You will need to declare any conflict of interest and register an account with a username, I have left details on your talk page. Theroadislong (talk) 18:24, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, IP user. While we loosely talk about "a page for somebody or something", I suspect it will help your thinking if you substitute "a neutral encyclopaedia article about a company, which summarises what several people wholly unconnected with the company have chosen to publish about the compnay in reliable publications, and very little else". In particular, {{HD/WINI}}

:As for how long, that is pretty well unpredictable. But what I will say is {{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} (And that's even without a conflict of interest).

:In short: please read WP:BOSS. ColinFine (talk) 21:10, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

Mosh by Eminem should be included in this article. 103.51.112.87 (talk) 02:34, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

:You can suggest that on the article's talk page. Please be sure to include a source that verifies the subject of the song. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 08:17, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

Can Explanatory footnotes contain inline citations? If this is the case, then is it advisable or should it be avoided? Donn Fretz (talk) 15:53, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

:@Donn Fretz Yes. See Joe Biden for an example. I've no strong view on whether this is a good idea. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:27, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

:It should always be done if the footnote is making a claim which may be challenged, or one that relates to a living person, just like for any other statement.

:A footnote cannot be used as a "free pass" around our policies on such things.

:That said: the nature of some footnotes means that they are unlikely be be challenged and may not need to be cited. As is often the case on Wikipedia, there is no black-and-white rule and editorial discretion, or talk page discussion, may be used.

:There are examples both with and without in an article I recently created, which uses footnotes extensively: Thomas Bolton (microscopist). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:13, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

Hey. I noticed there is a page about Sex Work in Paris however the title uses Prostitution which is a bit derogatory

The term "prostitute" is often considered rude or offensive because it carries a history of being used to shame and stigmatize individuals who engage in sex work, framing it as a moral failing rather than a form of labor. The word "sex work" is preferred by many, including some activists and researchers, as it acknowledges the labor aspect of the exchange and avoids the negative connotations associated with "prostitution".

I did try to edit the page for Prostitution in Paris and changed the words in the article there to Sex Work / Sex Workers etc but I am not able to change the titles. I think we should take into consideration this and change all articles that use the Word Prostitution as I see there is a Wikipedia Page about Prostitution as well. I hope I was clear enough thanks. 2A02:C7C:5113:D200:CD36:10CE:CA63:CEDE (talk) 18:21, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

:What you can do is to initiate a requested move and post your rationals in the ensuing discussion. Note that it is recommended to provide reliable sources to back up your claim. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 18:34, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

:Please also note that prostitution and sex work are not synonymous. The former is a type of the latter. Sam Sailor 18:47, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

::We have 94 "Prostitution in" articles in the :Category:Prostitution by country, so I don't think that moving one article makes sense. You could try asking at a relevant wikiproject. Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red isn't the most relevant project, but it has an active talk page. TSventon (talk) 08:34, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Your edit [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Prostitution_in_Paris&diff=prev&oldid=1296230525] broke numerous things by changing "prostitution" in page names and url's. It also falsified many reference titles and quotes. Some of them turned into a weird English-French mix. Don't do anything like this again with a lazy find-and-replace on a whole page. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:40, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi all.

Some Pakistani newspapers / TV channels are considered as WP:RS, while others may not. Names like are Dawn (English) / Dawn News (Urdu language), The Express Tribune (en) / Express.pk (ur), Geo News, ARY News, and etc., have been frequently used as citations to support the articles on Wikipedia.

Recently, my attention was brought to WP:RSP and WP:NEWSORGINDIA policies. While the latter is for Indian based websites, it may give a general rule that unbylined websites may not qualify RS and NPOV. Similary, at RSP, I saw Forbes website being listed as well, which some may find unreliable due to various reasons given there.

Notably, during recent :2025 India–Pakistan conflict, we saw a number of fabricated news reports as well, and therefore the government / armed forces officials from both sides announced to only follow the news presented by them and not others. Plus, involvement of international media was also seen to present the reports without being biased.

A number of news journalists in Pakistan have also become independent YouTube personalities now, but then the problem is subtitles/transcripts, and one may also assume that the channel/video is not notable due to the subscriber or view count. Few notable names:

• Mansoor Ali Khan (Hum News)
• Mubasher Lucman (ex-Dunya News)
• Amna Haider Isani (thenews.com.pk)

Ruling by that, how we may use Pakistani citations if writing for articles under WP:PAK abiding Wikipedia policies? I am open to have creative discussion because I have many other points in my mind as well, and may consider involvement of other senior/established editors based in Pakistan, probably by taking this to the WikiProject's talk. Thank you! M. Billoo 15:03, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

:This would be better discussed at WT:RSN. When you start a discussion there, you might like to post a pointer to it, on WT:Noticeboard for India-related topics. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:54, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you for your kind response. However, is there any similar noticeboard for Pakistan instead of India? M. Billoo 18:00, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Apologies; I meant WT:WikiProject Pakistan. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:05, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

I am sure that I've seen someone link to a page (no recollection if it was an essay, policy, guideline, MOS or something else) that said that it's best practice not to put a "Controversies" section in a BLP page. I haven't been able to find it - does anyone know if this exists? Did I imagine it? Thanks in advance. Samuelshraga (talk) 13:21, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

:WP:CSECTION.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 13:22, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you! Samuelshraga (talk) 13:47, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

:::WP:CONTROVERSYSECTION finds the same section. TSventon (talk) 18:55, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

I'm trying to add a newly published book to the Chambers v. Florida page using the visual editor. The book is titled, "Chambers v. Florida and the Criminal Justice Revolution." The ISBN number is 978-0-8130-8102-0. I keep getting the message that the book has already been referenced--but it hasn't. I don't know what to do. Can anyone help. (I am not very technical.) LeonBeagle (talk) 18:38, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

:That's not a valid ISBN. Amazon suggests {{ISBN|978-0813079363}}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:07, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

::{{ping|LeonBeagle}} Your ISBN fails ISBN#ISBN-13 check digit calculation. It works for me in some attempts if the last digit is changed to 1. Then VisualEditor automatically changes it to Andy's ISBN which gives the right book. Are you really seeing an ending 0 on the book? PrimeHunter (talk) 19:56, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

Muy buenas tardes!

Estoy tratando de crear el perfil pero me sale que mi nombre y apellidos estan bloqueados, como le puedo hacer?

Solo me dejo poniendole el año 2025 pero no me funciona asi al ser figura politica.

me pueden ayudar por favor 189.147.81.127 (talk) 21:11, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hi! This is the English Wikipedia, so you probably should communicate in English - perhaps try the Spanish Wikipedia. Regarding your concern, it does not look could you have any other edits besides posting this message, could you please clarify your question? (¡Hola! Esta es la Wikipedia en inglés, así que probablemente deberías comunicarte en inglés; quizás pruebes la Wikipedia en español. Respecto a tu inquietud, no parece que puedas hacer otras modificaciones además de publicar este mensaje. ¿Podrías aclarar tu pregunta?) GoldRomean (talk) 02:31, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

How to 203.190.41.124 (talk) 10:26, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

:What are you trying to connect to? 331dot (talk) 10:56, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Using an asterisk (*) formerly created bullet points in a footnote. However, I note that there seems to have been a change in the coding, and the bullet points in a footnote are now displaying as asterisks without line breaks. See for example footnote 84 of Otto Warmbier, which includes a number of bulleted quotes from different sources. How to make these display as bullet points again? Muzilon (talk) 02:51, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

:Muzilon, ● [an item]
● [another item]
● [yet another item]
● [etc]
is a kludge but perhaps better than nothing. -- Hoary (talk) 06:47, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

::Kludgey indeed. Why was the Wiki coding changed in the first place? Muzilon (talk) 06:54, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

:::You might ask at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). -- Hoary (talk) 08:44, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

::::{{ping|Muzilon}} An asterisk only creates a bullet if it's at the start of a line. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:12, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::Well, I've manually changed the footnote as per Hoary's suggestion. Muzilon (talk) 11:31, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::WP:BUNDLING says that {{tag|br|s}} tags should not be used, and gives an example of a bulleted list, it goes like this:{{pb}}{{pre|Multiple sources:

• {{cite news}}
• {{cite web}}
• {{cite whatever}}}}{{pb}}I have implemented that in this diff in Otto Warmbier.{{pb}}An {{em|unbulleted}} alternative that adds white space between each bundled reference is {{tl|multiref2}}. See this for an example of the output. Sam Sailor 11:52, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Why is this celebrity not appearing on here. Vermyttya Erahn aka O’So Celly aka Vermyttya Miller aka Vermyttya Lopez. She’s an American actress and also a music artist and was married to Master P nephew Young Miller. She should be included on here. She is on some big films and she just performed that the BET experience. She’s on a few magazines.

Can someone create a title for her or a page for her? 12.232.254.53 (talk) 05:23, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

:It would be more appropriate to post this under Wikipedia:Requested articles/Biography. In the first place, this person would need to meet Wikipedia's Notability requirements for Actors or Musicians. A quick Google Search doesn't turn up much press coverage except for articles like this [https://ktla.com/news/local-news/santa-clarita-bride-gets-5-years-behind-bars-for-20k-fraud-scheme-targeting-the-knot/]. Muzilon (talk) 06:37, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

:Vermyttya Erahn was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&page=Vermyttya_Erahn deleted in February 2016]. Draft:Vermyttya Erahn was created in March 2016, and was undeleted today. Feel free to work on the draft. Sam Sailor 12:03, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

The following question concerns the source https://trauer.kleinezeitung.at/traueranzeige/leo-cappellaro/anzeigen

Is this particular web page on a newspaper's website containing that particular death notice imprinted with "Wolf", which is the private funeral service provider [https://www.bestattung-wolf.com Bestattung Wolf GmbH] (who on behalf of the family designed the death notice and submitted it to the newspaper),

a primary source or a secondary source?

It was (indirectly) suggested to me that such a source would be a secondary source. I would like an opinion of an uninvolved editor. —Alalch E. 22:29, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

:The item linked is a death notice from the deceased's family so it is a primary source and not independent of the subject. TSventon (talk) 12:11, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you. —Alalch E. 13:26, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

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Would a user named e.g. "Starfall2016" be blocked with the note that the username is too similar to the user in good standing (me) Starfall2015? Starfall2015 chat | about me 09:07, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

:Probably not, unless it was used to imitate or harass you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:50, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

::I think we (at least I) would include in that calculation any editing of the same topics. I note there is a User:Starfall2077 registered in 2021. Coincidence? I recommend a perusal of Wikipedia:Editors who may be confused, where lots of similar usernames peacefully coexist. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 16:04, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

:::It also depends on whether the two accounts are operated by the same person. Nobody objects to the existence of User:Nyttend backup, because I'm User:Nyttend and I also control the backup account in line with WP:PUBLICSOCK. If the accounts have userpages that are quite different, again it's not a problem, even if their usernames are similar. For example, as far as I know, User:NE2 and User:N2e have never had any conflicts over their usernames, despite being easily confusable. The big issue is when someone registers a username intending to cause confusion, or otherwise intending to be disruptive, so merely having two similar usernames isn't a reason for one to be blocked. Nyttend (talk) 22:41, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

::::On that last point, I can say that I, User:N2e have never had any confusion that I know of with User:NE2, despite my 20 yrs of editing and tens of thousands of edits. N2e (talk) 12:42, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

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Hi, I am fairly sure that the article MTV, Bota Essa P was translated from the Portuguese wiki by copy-pasting most of the Portuguese prose into DeepL, potentially with slight cleanup. To my understanding, translating other wiki articles is allowed, but this doesn't do it with credit in the original edit summary or on the (non-existant) talk page. Is there a recommended cleanup form that should be applied or other avenue that this should be posted in?

Thanks, ScalarFactor (talk) 20:55, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

:@ScalarFactor The general advice is at WP:Copying within Wikipedia, with a part about repairing insufficient attribution at WP:RIA. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:44, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thanks, I applied the template mentioned on WP:RIA and left a message on the talk page. ScalarFactor (talk) 19:16, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

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I'm writing to seek guidance on how to ethically create a Wikipedia article. I was recently approached by someone offering to create a profile for a fee, but I understand that this practice conflicts with Wikipedia's policies on paid editing and conflicts of interest. While my colleagues believe I meet the notability criteria, I'm unclear on the proper steps. I need help understanding the right way to proceed, what resources are available for notability guidelines, and if there are any programs to ensure an article is created ethically, neutrally, and in line with Wikipedia's principles.

My name is Eli Joseph (born Elisee Joseph), and I was recently acknowledge for my invention of the extended reality (XR) book system. Elisee10 (talk) 16:55, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

:Getting approached to have an article written on you as a subject is outlined at WP:SCAM - {{Green|SCAM WARNING! If you have been contacted or solicited by anyone asking for payment to get a draft into article space, improve a draft, or restore a deleted article, such offers are not legitimate and you should contact paid-en-wpwikipedia.org immediately. more details...}} While this is not directly applicable to this case, it should be kept in mind.

:If you are the Dr. Eli Joseph outlined at [https://www.forbes.com/sites/janicegassam/2025/04/30/he-built-a-tool-that-turns-your-career-story-into-an-experience/ this recent Forbes story], note that any article on you is most likely to be based on the XR system you've created, perhaps reading like this: "The system, invented by Dr. Eli Joseph,". I don't see much coverage on this Eli Joseph beyond their involvement in the invention of this system - to that end, the topic of the XR system itself does appear notable. Articles are most often created by volunteer editors for free; however, paid editors must declare their client and that payment was received to comply with WP:PAID. Departure– (talk) 17:09, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

::I am indeed Dr. Eli Joseph. Here is the link to my profile on the World Economic Forum (link: https://www.weforum.org/stories/authors/eli-joseph/) Elisee10 (talk) 17:13, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Here are the terms on the table, as I see them. Regardless of how much you're paid, the article should focus on the XR book system itself (and if it focuses on you, note that a WP:AFD discussion, or Articles for Deletion discussion, may choose to refocus the page on the system at a later point, unless you as a person are notable independent of your invention.); the editor team you are working with must declare that they're working for payment; and that you yourself should not edit the article.

:::Articles besides those of Wikipedia users (as sort of editor profiles, not normal articles) are under the coverage of policies such as WP:DUE and WP:NPOV (meaning giving content its due weight in the prose, and speaking on the material neutrally), alongside WP:V and WP:OR (which state that all material in the article should be cited to a third-party reliable source, avoiding primary sources where possible).

:::Note that, per WP:SCAM, any sort of additional charge to "keep the article up for X amount of time" is not how Wikipedia works, and assessment of notability is done by volunteer editors from around the world and cannot be paid for. You are free, however, to pay for a team to write or otherwise improve an article on your content, provided that it is notable and follows Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, as you have stated your intention of doing. I wish you luck on this, Dr. Joseph. Departure– (talk) 17:22, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

::::Thank you for the clarification. I’m not paying any services where I could have an article or profile of my work published for free. That being said, I spoke to another Wikipedia editor/rep through the help desk and he/she suggested that I may qualify for notability through the general or academic category. Elisee10 (talk) 18:02, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

::::: Eli Joseph has been protected so you will need to use the WP:AFC process and find an admin willing to accept it, please note it has also been the subject of an WP:AFD. Theroadislong (talk) 18:09, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::Note per what I've said above: The user who created the prior page at Eli Joseph most recently was blocked for undisclosed paid editing (see Special:Contributions/KibangaWiki). Again, Dr. Joseph, any team you're working with must declare that they're working for compensation. Departure– (talk) 18:13, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::::I would add, {{u|Elisee10}}, that even if not paid, anyone being above board should disclose a connection to you were they to edit about you, per the conflict of interest policy. Also know that even if they created an article for free, they might use that to pressure you to pay them for other "services", like protecting the article from deletion(something they can't promise). My advice would be to ignore any solicitations. 331dot (talk) 12:14, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::::Got it. Thank you! Elisee10 (talk) 12:45, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::::::Hello, @Elisee10. I suggest you also read WP:PROUD. ColinFine (talk) 16:10, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::::::Hi there, thank you for this article. I believe @ Theroadislong mentioned this article yesterday. 108.21.101.34 (talk) 17:06, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::::::I appreciate the input on this thread. I think it's best for me to ignore any and every Wikipedia solicitor or PR agency that promises to deliver a Wikipedia article profile of myself or my work. 108.21.101.34 (talk) 17:08, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi, a few days ago i expanded the article Ferenc Pfaff significantly - it now has multiple sections, 16 inline citations, several images, and over 700 words of content. However, it's still categorized as a "stub", and I can't find any {{tl|stub}} tag or template anywhere in the source editor or on the Talk page.

I've searched using Ctrl+F and manually reviewed the bottom of the article, but still can't locate the source of the stub categorization. Can someone help me identify where it's coming from and how to properly remove or update the article's classification?

Here's the article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferenc_Pfaff

Thanks! TheVeryOldHuy (talk) 23:09, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{u|TheVeryOldHuy}}, there is no {{tl|stub}} tag on the article (and I beg your pardon for altering your comment to disable the stub template; else this page would show up on the stubs list). It is still listed as "stub class" on the talk page; that will last until someone reassesses it. You could ask at the relevant WikiProject if they can do that. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 23:48, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you, Seraphimblade. Much appreciated. I didn't realize that stub status remains on the Talk page until it is explicitly reviewed, rather than automatically based on article length, content, or citations. This makes sense now. I expanded the article on Ferenc Pfaff with approximately 715 words, 16 inline citations, multiple images, and coverage of his early life, career, architectural style, and list of works. The content was primarily sourced from Hungarian-language sources and translated/summarized for clarity. As indicated, I will bring it up to WhateveraWikiProject you reccomend nk you again for the clarity and assistance. TheVeryOldHuy (talk) 00:26, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

:::{{u|TheVeryOldHuy}}, that article is clearly no longer a stub, so I moved it to start class by editing the wikicode at the very top of the article talk page. Any editor can do that, and I do so frequently. Thanks for the expansion. Cullen328 (talk) 05:24, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

I have posted opened a discussion on WP:ANI regarding misconduct from another user. It has been several days, and other editors have also spoke out about said user's misconduct, though there seems to be no admin response yet. How long will this take? Thehistorianisaac (talk) 05:25, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

:Nobody's required to respond to an ANI request, so the simple answer is that there's no firm answer. That said, I see people have engaged with the thread. It's possible nobody feels they have anything further to say in response to the additional comments you've made, but you could always request additional opinions...though I'd probably wait at least 48 hours before doing so (inactive but open discussions won't be archived for 72 hours). DonIago (talk) 06:16, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

::Oh ok.

::By the way i think my question was phrased badly, "Typically how long does it take for administrator intervention on ANI?" would be better. Thehistorianisaac (talk) 07:04, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

:::There is a range of possibilities from admin involvement after a few minutes to no admin involvement and the thread being archived after 72 hours. You have started discussions about the same user on 16 June and 18 June, so it is possible that admins don't feel they need to get involved at present. TSventon (talk) 07:25, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

The retention method of the help desk has changed from 2025.

Please tell me...

1. why it has changed
2. how to retain by date

Whatback11 (talk) 10:58, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

:Whatback11, see Wikipedia talk:Help desk#archiving woes. The archiving bot stopped working, so it was decided to switch to item by item archiving, which does not use date headers. TSventon (talk) 14:25, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

Someone just reverted my edit. It says in their profile they aren’t an admin, so- how do I report that? Strunkenwhite or The Modern Prometheus (talk) 06:45, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

:Editors do not need to be Admins in order to WP:REVERT someone else's edit. If you disagree with the other editor then your first step should be to take it up on the Talk page of the article in question. (There are certain rules about repeatedly reverting other editors within a 24-hour period: see WP:3RR). Muzilon (talk) 08:01, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

:WP:COMMUNICATE may be of help to you. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:29, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @Strunkenwhite or The Modern Prometheus. This is how Wikipedia is supposed to work. Please see WP:BRD. ColinFine (talk) 16:07, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?limit=250&offset=0&profile=default&search=radiogoldindex&title=Special:Search&ns0=1 RadioGOLDINdex] has 241 Results

https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.radiogoldindex.com/ Copyright, J. David Goldin

now:

http://radiogoldin.library.umkc.edu/

Piñanana (talk) 20:35, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

:I believe you're looking for Wikipedia:Link rot/URL change requests. Departure– (talk) 21:19, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

How do I created a wikipedia page Itsmeso (talk) 21:47, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @Itsmeso.

:{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}}

:One of the reasons I talk about creating an article rather than a page is that "creating a page" sounds quite simple, but creating an acceptable encyclopaedia article is anything but simple.

:If you insist on going ahead before getting the experience, what I will say is that first, before you write so much as a single word, you should find the independent reliable sources, and check that each one of them satisfies all the criteria in WP:42. Only when you have at least three such sources is there any point in creating a draft and starting to write; because if you cannot find those sources, it is likely that your chosen subject does not meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability, and no article is possible. ColinFine (talk) 22:00, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

: John Winthrop

I have added a file which is too big and has no caption. The caption underneath it should be: "Winthrop meets with a Narragansett Native American warrior, c1631-1639. Behind Winthrop are Revs. Skipper and Whiting"

Thank you in advance

49.199.153.245 (talk) 00:37, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

:Fixed. You just needed to add the thumb option to display the caption and thumbnail. If you ever need other help, Help:Pictures has some guidance you can use. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 03:14, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

:

:Am I mistaken in thinking that the image is protected under copyright per paragraph 3 at https://www.mediastorehouse.com.au/terms.html and so should not have been uploaded to MediaWiki servers?

:—Trappist the monk (talk) 13:15, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

::The image appears to be a colorized version of a [https://archive.org/details/cassellshistoryo01olli/page/108/mode/1up line drawing] originally published in a 19th century work, Cassell's History of the United States. While the B&W original is clearly public domain, whether a new copyright can be claimed for a colorized reproduction is a debatable point on Wikimedia. At the very least, I think the claimed license of "CC-0" is probably not quite correct. Muzilon (talk) 00:34, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Ref number 96 - I failed to place the two page numbers correctly and they are now written in red. Please fix and please leave in the quote. Thank you. 49.199.153.245 (talk) 09:41, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{done}}. You needed "pages=634,635", not "pp. 634, 635". Maproom (talk) 11:34, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Is Wikipedia an allowed place to get information for an article? Rafael Hello! 01:49, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

:See WP:CIRCULAR. You should not normally quote Wikipedia article A as a citation for a statement in Wikipedia article B. If you're using Wikipedia to write an article for non-Wikipedia purposes (e.g. a paper for school/university), it's always a good idea to check the citations carefully. Muzilon (talk) 05:54, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

:Since every statement in a Wikipedia article is meant to be cited to a reliable source, what you can do is:

:* Find the specific statement in the existing article that you want to use as a source

:* Look at the end of the phrase, sentence, or paragraph for a citation reference, which should provide the information you need to find the original source for the statement

:* Find a copy of the original source (typically either online, or at a library)

:* Read the original source to understand what it actually says about the topic

:* Reference the original source in another Wikipedia article (or news article, or academic essay, or whatever it is you're writing).

:-- Avocado (talk) 12:44, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

I followed the wiki page Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Text formatting#Boldface I did ‘’’Yes’’’ and it didn't work I then copied what the other comments in a rfc page did by looking in the code and added a , after it and a * before it and it still hasn't worked. GothicGolem29 (talk) 22:32, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

:Well, first of all, just about anything you do in Wikipedia, there will be a strip at the top of the box you're doing it in. The first thing in that box is a bold, capital "B". While you're in the text box, click on that, and wherever you are in the box will appear Bold text. Replace "Bold text" with whatever you want bold. If you type something and then decide you want to bold it, highlight whatever you want to bold, and click that B. Alternatively, you can just type three single quote marks (') before and after whatever you want to bold.

:Next lesson: How did I type Bold text above (and now, here) without bolding it. Uporządnicki (talk) 22:52, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

:Thanks I really appreciate it I managed to find the B above the comment box in the talk page. I tried the manual way with ‘’’yes’’’ before including in my comment in this post and now but it didn't work.

:No idea that looks like how it was done in the wiki Manual of Style/formatting paye GothicGolem29 (talk) 23:12, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

::@GothicGolem29 The problem is that instead of a straight apostrophe ('), you're typing curly quotation marks (‘) Either this is something your computer is doing to you, or you're pressing the wrong key. Note the difference between ‘’’Yes’’’ and Yes. You want the second one.Cremastra (talk) 23:16, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Your browser or device probably has an automatic feature converting straight apostrophes to curly apostrophes. It may be called "smart quotes" with an option to disable it somewhere. We may be able to help more if you name the browser and device. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:25, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

::::I managed to find it after reading your comment snd the above one I have to hold down on the quotation and it brings it up so it has some auto hide feature that means I have to hold down on the curly apostrophe to find the right one so thanks GothicGolem29 (talk) 23:38, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::I meant the general software settings may have an option to permanently disable "smart quotes". PrimeHunter (talk) 00:30, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::Thanks it did and I disabled it GothicGolem29 (talk) 00:46, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:::thanks I managed to find the right ' it was a bit hidden on my device GothicGolem29 (talk) 23:35, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

The word black magic it needs to be censored it's a racist word to discriminate against black people. 2607:FEA8:79CD:FF60:C8:BC:82D1:E431 (talk) 16:55, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

:Wikipedia is not censored for any reason. If you read black magic, it has nothing to do with black people. 331dot (talk) 17:01, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

::Adding on to this reply - Wikipedia articles are not censored for any reasons besides the direct discretion of the WMF and for illegal content. Pages are not censored simply for being discriminatory, or covering discriminatory content. For example, the English Wikipedia has pages on Slavery in the United States and The Holocaust. These are, as all articles on the project, written solely from a neutral point of view as informative pieces, and do not, themselves, form an endorsement or otherwise condone the subject matter. If you have any knowledge on why Black magic as a term has any association with discrimination against any group, and can back up that claim with reliable sources, feel free to add it to the article. Departure– (talk) 20:16, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

:That is not true. Just because black magic is "evil" and "selfish" and has the word "black" in it, it doesn't make it racist. Anyways, you can't censor it. Rafael Hello! 02:40, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

hi a group of nascar fans are making the 2025 in season toruney bracket, but we cant fill it in, here is the bracket and how the seeding goes is 1 vs 32, 2 vs 31, 3 vs 30, etc etc. ty !! :) 45BearsFan (talk) 01:56, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:i already added the drivers to the bracket by there seed Brycenrichter (talk) 03:05, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

When creating a list article showing types of something, is it okay to make it when the main article shows types of something, but you can write it in a list format? Rafael Hello! 03:07, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{U|Rafaelthegreat}}, are you perhaps asking: {{Olive|When contemplating the creation of a list article showing the types of XYZ, is it okay to go ahead and create it when the main article on XYZ shows the types of XYZ, but when you can write much the same content, and little more, as a list?}}? If so, then what you're proposing is a redundant content fork; so no, going ahead is not okay. If you're sure that in time you'll be able to add a number of worthwhile items that don't appear in the main article, you could create it as a draft and submit it once you've added those worthwhile items. -- Hoary (talk) 04:22, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Is there a way to force a line break in a lengthy explanatory footnote?

Humpster (talk) 07:18, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:Yes: If all you want is a line break, then
. -- Hoary (talk) 08:15, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello,

I want to make a list article. Are they encyclopedic like normal articles? Rafael Hello! 01:45, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello @Rafaelthegreat. Yes, list articles are encyclopaedic. The main difference is that they talk about many different items that are under a common banner, like a musician's tours or the prime ministers of a particular country. The main part of the article is, obviously, the list, but there should still be some introductory information and context. I've seen list articles that, for the most part, are formatted more like regular articles. TheDowningStreetCat (talk) 02:24, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:@Rafaelthegreat There is quite a lot of content guidance for lists at WP:Stand-alone lists, so you should start by reading that. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:20, 23 June 2025 (UTC)