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{{ITN candidate

| article = 2025 Polish presidential election

| image = Karol Nawrocki (2025).jpg

| blurb = In Polish presidential election, Karol Nawrocki (pictured) wins the second round of the election.

| recent deaths = no

| ongoing = no

| ITNR = yes

| altblurb = Karol Nawrocki (pictured) is elected as president of Poland.

| altblurb2 =

| sources = [https://notesfrompoland.com/2025/06/01/exit-poll-shows-polands-pivotal-presidential-election-too-close-to-call-2/ Notes from Poland], [https://polandelects.com/ Poland Elects]

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| nominator = 103.111.102.118

| creator = Nousername46000

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| nom cmt = Early release of the exit poll showing the result were too close to call. However, as the counting continues, it become clear who is elected as the President of Poland, given that the current vote count is 76%. I'm also not sure if this is ITNR or not, so anyone feel free for updating the blurb.

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• Support as ITN/R once result is clear This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 23:51, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

:Support per ITNR, once result is clear, it will probably Nawrocki at this point in time. History6042😊 (Contact me) 01:54, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

:Support once article is updated with result. Significant per ITN/R. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 03:43, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

• Support - INT/R and big international news. Jusdafax (talk) 07:02, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

{{atop|Banned user. Stephen 03:02, 2 June 2025 (UTC)}}

{{ITN candidate

| article = Timeline of the Gaza war (16 May 2025 – present)

| image =

| blurb = Not a new entry, but just want to link to the Wiki article "Timeline of the Gaza War" to match 2 of the other ongoing entries

| recent deaths = no

| ongoing = add

| ITNR = no

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| altblurb2 =

| sources =

| updated =

| nominator = Literally created this acc to complain

| creator = Kencf0618

| updaters = Kencf0618, Durranistan, Borgenland, ThePaganUK

| nom cmt = I think it is hypocritical that the timeline article exists, yet is not there, yet for Ukraina and Sudan is. I am not saying hello, I am not accusing you not to do it, and I think the quickest way is to add it onto the page.

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• For the record, the creator of this nomination has already been indefinitely banned for impersonation - their user page and talk page were direct copies of other users'. GenevieveDEon (talk) 23:30, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

:1. It doesnt matter on ITNC and 2. how is it posting then?Sportsnut24 (talk) 01:41, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

:Procedural close as started by a banned user. — ^EF⁵ 01:43, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

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{{ITN candidate

| article = Ayşe Seitmuratova

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = https://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2025/06/1/7515032/

| updated = yes

| nominator = 142.170.60.244

| updaters = Normantas Bataitis, Artur-Bukow

| nom cmt = She was one of the lead soviet dissidents amongst the Crimean Tatars, who even got to meet President Ronald Reagan for her actions on the rights of her people as herself a victim of the deportation during her childhood. Her life is emblematic of an interesting if starting to be forgotten civil rights activism era. Plus actuality bonus points given this is Crimea we're talking about.

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:Support recent changes added sources. History6042😊 (Contact me) 18:47, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

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{{ITN candidate

| article = Stanley Fischer

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/obituary-stanley-fischer-former-fed-vice-chair-bank-israel-chief-dies-81-2025-06-01/ Reuters]

| updated = yes

| nominator = 240F:7A:6253:1:E1A1:AE9B:264B:3BA6

| updaters = Sunshineisles2

| nom cmt = Former governor of the Bank of Israel and Vice Chair of the Federal Reserve.

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{{ITN candidate

| article = 2025 UEFA Champions League final

| image = Doue asse psg 2425.png

| blurb = Paris Saint-Germain defeat Inter Milan 5–0 to win the final of the Champions League.

| recent deaths = no

| ongoing = no

| ITNR = yes

| altblurb = In association football, Paris Saint-Germain win the UEFA Champions League, defeating Inter Milan in the final (man of the match Désiré Doué pictured).

| altblurb2 = In association football, Arsenal win the women's Champions League and Paris Saint-Germain win the men's Champions League.

| sources =

| updated =

| nominator = Abcmaxx

| creator =

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| nom cmt =

| sign = Abcmaxx (talk) 20:33, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

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• Comment The article needs significant work before posting, a post-match section needs to be added while expansion is required for the route to the final and pre-match. The background section is also largely unsoured. S.A. Julio (talk) 21:32, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

:Article not ready Some section is lacking in content. Conditional strong support once article is ready.INeedSupport ^:3 21:32, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

• Not ready: There is virtually no prose for the match itself. Left guide (talk) 22:25, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
• :The subject is certainly ITN-worthy, but I agree with others that the article is not yet ready.Some section is lacking in content. Jeong seolah (talk) 05:52, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

:Always loves the fact {{u|Abcmaxx}} always WP:IDHT, adds the final score of the match, and some stupid trivia (if applicable) about the match instead of suggesting the usual boring blurb formula we use for such events. Howard the Duck (talk) 22:35, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

::Is the score not relevant or what is your point? You're always free to add an altblurb, I've added the most standard blurb here possible. I would say 5–0 in a CL final is highly unusual. Theres no rule saying I have to propose a blurb to your liking, but thanks for the unconstructive criticism. Abcmaxx (talk) 07:12, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

• Comment I have an another blurb. But by the way, the first blurb suggested by Abcmaxx would be obviously rejected. No need to include the score imo. The blurb I suggested is:
  In association football, Paris Saint-Germain achieve the continental treble after defeating Inter Milan in the UEFA Champions League final (man of the match Désiré Doué pictured). KyleRGiggs (talk) 09:01, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
• :If we don't need to include the score, then we definitely don't need the trivia about the "continental treble." Pawnkingthree (talk) 12:59, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
• ::Is there a WP:ITNSPORTSBLURB I'm not aware of? Arguably the score is the most important aspect of a sports match surely Abcmaxx (talk) 15:09, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
• :::Scores typically not listed, nor are election votes. —Bagumba (talk) 17:32, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
• Added alt2 based on last year blurb. -- KTC (talk) 15:56, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

:Support alt2, as a blurb, otherwise it is not ready. History6042😊 (Contact me) 17:45, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

::The women's final article requires significant expansion before posting. If someone's willing to do it then great, otherwise it shouldn't prevent the men's final from being posted, which is ITN/R. S.A. Julio (talk) 18:37, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Where would you say it needs to be expanded? {{Ping|S.A. Julio}} History6042😊 (Contact me) 18:43, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

:oppose the women's is more important (also both are sides beat real this yeaer. Make Arsenal Great AgainSportsnut24 (talk) 01:43, 2 June 2025 (UTC).

::What do you mean the women's is more important, how so. History6042😊 (Contact me) 01:47, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

:Support blurb. BilboBeggins (talk) 06:56, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

{{ITN candidate

| article = Josep-Lluís Serrano Pentinat

| image = JLSerranoP.jpg

| blurb = Josep-Lluís Serrano Pentinat (pictured) becomes the new Episcopal Co-Prince of Andorra.

| recent deaths = no

| ongoing = no

| ITNR = yes

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| sources = [https://elperiodic.ad/societat/josep-lluis-serrano-pentinat-pren-possessio-com-a-nou-coprincep-episcopal-dandorra/ El Periòdic d'Andorra]

| updated = no

| nominator = Tofusaurus

| creator = BeanieFan11

| updaters =

| nom cmt =

| sign = Tofusaurus (talk) 13:19, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

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:Support A change in the position of the co-prince of Andorra is rare, and this change roughly occurs every two to three decades. CastleFort1 (talk) 15:01, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

:This probably should not be ITNR, as the co-prince is not the position that administers the executive of the govt per our table. Masem (t) 15:07, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

::The 2 princes are heads of state (1278 treaty Bishop of Urgell and Count of Foix then Count of Foix became King of France 1589 so inherited by French Crown then French Presidency) Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 15:47, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

:::The underlying table List of current heads of state and government lists the PM as the one that wields executive power, neither either co-prince. Masem (t) 17:09, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

::::Head of state is ITNR.Sportsnut24 (talk) 01:44, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

• Neutral The change in heads of state in systems where this figure does not have executive powers, such as the case of Andorra as the Co-Prince Episcopal refers to, is not ITNR. However, given that the last time such a succession occurred was 22 years ago and is not common (but ordinary), it might be ITN-interesting. _-_Alsor (talk) 17:07, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

Support change of head of state has precedent This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 18:33, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

• Support - As with other collective heads of state, such as in Switzerland and San Marino, I understand some editors' caution in posting these stories. But changes of head of state are by and large extremely significant, and are arguably one of the most significant peaceful events in small nations like Andorra. And there are very few ecclesiastical ehads of state left, so this story is unusual in that respect. It's already noted above how rarely the episcopal co-prince changes; and when the secular co-prince changes, we usually just bill that as the presidency of the French Republic. GenevieveDEon (talk) 21:05, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
• :Support ArionStar (talk) 23:37, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose This is not significant, not in the news and not a well-written article. Andrew🐉(talk) 22:31, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
• :To say that the change of the head of state “is not significan” is a gross ignorance of several things... _-_Alsor (talk) 23:20, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
• : In what way is it "not well-written"? BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:37, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
• ::For example, the lead says "He became Spain's youngest bishop." This claim does not appear in the article's body and it is not sourced. And it appears that there have been other, younger bishops such as Xavier Novell. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:43, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
• Support, I think as a head of state change it should be significant enough. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:37, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support head of state, and Andorra is quirky and interesting. I think highlight the bishop aspect, although this is potentially getting into DYK territory. Secretlondon (talk) 12:28, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
• Support on notability per GenevieveDEon. Flip^andFlopped ㋡ 16:55, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
• Support Due to notability, and heads of state are usually announced in the ITN BoomBoxBuddy (talk) 19:04, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

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{{ITN candidate

| article = Étienne-Émile Baulieu

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/31/health/etienne-emile-baulieu-dead.html NYT]

| updated =

| nominator = Innisfree987

| updaters = Innisfree987

| nom cmt = French scientist known as the “father” of the abortion pill. Article needs a little more referencing but overall in good shape.

| sign = Innisfree987 (talk) 05:58, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

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{{ITN candidate

| article = Abdul Ismail

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://sportstar.thehindu.com/cricket/abdul-ismail-dead-at-79-mumbai-ranji-trophy-spin-bowling-latest-news-updates/article69639170.ece The Hindu]

| updated = yes

| nominator = QuicoleJR

| updaters = Normantas Bataitis

| nom cmt = Indian cricketer, article meets all requirements.

| sign = QuicoleJR (talk) 02:07, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

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{{ITN candidate

| article = John E. Thrasher

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://news.fsu.edu/news/university-news/2025/05/30/remembering-john-thrasher-president-emeritus/ Florida State University News]

| updated = yes

| nominator = 240F:7A:6253:1:2407:E118:EDC8:D359

| updaters = Strattonsmith, WWGB, ErktheBerserker

| nom cmt = Former member of the Florida Senate and president of Florida State University.

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• Weak oppose 2 uncited statements throughout the article. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 01:32, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

{{ITN candidate

| article = 2025 Mokwa flood

| image =

| blurb = More than 200 people are killed and 500 others are missing after flooding submerges the town of Mokwa in Niger State, Nigeria.

| recent deaths = no

| ongoing = no

| ITNR = no

| altblurb =

| altblurb2 =

| sources = [https://www.deccanherald.com/world/flood-death-toll-rises-to-117-in-nigerias-niger-state-emergency-official-says-3565007 Deccan Herald] [https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/5/30/at-least-88-killed-in-heavy-nigeria-flooding-rescue-efforts-ongoing Al Jazeera]

| updated = yes

| nominator = Bloxzge 025

| creator = Bloxzge 025

| updaters =

| nom cmt = Significant disaster which has been reported on internationally.

| sign = Bloxzge 025 ツ{{flagicon|Canada}} 12:45 PM, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

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• Support Significant event. Will get the sports off ITN if nothing else This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 01:13, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

:@Orbitalbuzzsaw There was no need for that 2nd part of the message. ITN is pretty well known for being WP:NOTNEWS, so why phrase it like ITN is going through something akin to a slow news cycle? Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 01:31, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

::@Fakescientist8000 because the “sports bad” crowd has to make sure we all know their opinion. The Kip ^(contribs) 03:41, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

:Responding to 200 people dying with your weird anti-sports hobbyhorse is gauche, to say the least. Parabolist (talk) 19:44, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

• Support on notability, oppose on quality - Flood section seems rather brief for such a major disaster. The Kip ^(contribs) 03:42, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
• :What about now? I'm trying to improve it with as much info as I can find. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 21:09, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support A bad year in Nigeria. ArionStar (talk) 14:40, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support Even with high casualties and is pretty notable. Seems to be mostly well cited. BoomBoxBuddy (talk) 3:05, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
• Support per nom and BoomBoxBuddy. Unusually high casualties, with evidence of widespread global coverage. I think the article has also been sufficiently improved by the nominator to meet our minimum standards. Flip^andFlopped ㋡ 16:57, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
• Support per above. This event is clearly notable due to the high number of casualties and widespread media coverage. The article seems well-referenced and appropriate for the "In the News" section. LookatmiWiki (talk) 2 June 2025 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 00:48, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

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{{ITN candidate

| article = Alf Clausen

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.billboard.com/culture/tv-film/alf-clausen-death-simpsons-composer-1235986811/ Billboard]

| updated = yes

| nominator = 240F:7A:6253:1:590A:8E69:F58C:CA9

| updaters = Sunshineisles2

| nom cmt = American composer best known for The Simpsons theme song.

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• Support Good article quality. --NoonIcarus (talk) 19:02, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

{{ITN candidate

| article = Loretta Swit

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-31/mash-actor-loretta-swit-dies-aged-87/105361342

| updated = yes

| nominator = HiLo48

| updaters =

| nom cmt = American actor mostly known for her work on M*A*S*H

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• Oppose As much as I love M*A*S*H, this article has way too many unsourced statements for the main page. Ping me if this issue gets fixed, because I would be happy to support once that happens. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:13, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
• Not Ready for the usual reason. I was going to nominate this last night, but when I looked at the article I realized it's in really rough shape as far as referencing goes. There are entire sections w/o any sources. -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:54, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

{{ITN candidate

| article = Bernard Kerik

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/us/bernard-kerik-nypd-commissioner-during-9/11-dies-at-69-all-about-him/articleshow/121506033.cms The Economic Times]

| updated = yes

| nominator = Pharaoh of the Wizards

| updaters =

| nom cmt = NYPD Commissioner during 9/11

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• A few citations needed, and hopefully those one-sentence "Military" and "Private sector" subsections can be expanded or combined. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:02, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

{{ITN candidate

| article = Luke Humphries

| image = 2025-04-03 Premier League Darts Berlin 2025 by Sandro Halank–148.jpg

| blurb = Luke Humphries wins the Premier League of Darts, becoming only the fourth player to win the Professional Darts Corporation Triple Crown (World Championship, World Matchplay and Premier League).

| recent deaths = no

| ongoing = no

| ITNR = no

| altblurb = Luke Humphries (pictured) wins the Premier League of Darts, becoming the fourth player to achieve the Triple Crown.

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| sources = https://www.rte.ie/sport/darts/2025/0529/1515807-humphries-beats-littler-to-claim-triple-crown/

| updated = yes

| nominator = 2A02:C7C:DA04:1200:F642:9179:DA3A:29EA

| creator =

| updaters =

| nom cmt = Obviously a triple crown is a de facto big deal in any sport, but this one has come as quite the development in the ongoing battle for dominance in darts between 30 year old Luke Humphries (world number one) and 18 year old Luke Littler (current world champion). With the latter having been favourite to win the Premier League this year after setting numerous tournament records including his 45 point winning total, Humphries trailed in a distant second (34 points), but still far ahead of the rest of the field (26 amd below). All other players at this elite world level, including multiple former world champions and one of the other three Triple Crown winners, are currently, and perhaps for a very long time yet, frankly just spectators to this Lukeopoly.

| sign = 2A02:C7C:DA04:1200:F642:9179:DA3A:29EA (talk) 23:39, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

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• Comment The 'Triple Crown' isn't a thing in Darts. I don't know if the PDC are trying to market it as such, but there are several other tournaments which are considered to be more prestigious that the PL, which is a glorified exbo with only a few invited participants. Effy Midwinter (talk) 00:49, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
• :Our article of Professional Darts Corporation Triple Crown would say otherwise. No idea if this is notable/significant for ITN, however. Natg 19 (talk) 00:58, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose good faith nom, but not ITNR and not notable. More suitable for DYK. _-_Alsor (talk) 10:58, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
• :Sports things that aren't listed at ITNR doesn't mean that an ITNC can still be discussed, but the importance has to stand on its own. The fact we have an article on the triple crown for darts suggests the achievement is notable. Masem (t) 15:13, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
• ::If a sporting event isn't ITNR, it's probably not ITN-worthy. And having an article doesn't mean it deserves it either. At no point have I said that it cannot be discussed. Humphries is the "fourth" player to win the Triple Crown, not even the first; darts is a very minority sport, and this achievement has barely received any coverage from the international sports press. Perhaps that's appropriate for DYK, but nothing more. _-_Alsor (talk) 17:16, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

{{ITN candidate

| article = Tshenuwani Farisani

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.zoutnet.co.za/articles/news/62505/2025-05-29/struggle-stalwart-dr-tshenuwani-farisani-passes-on Zoutnet]

| updated = yes

| nominator = TDKR Chicago 101

| updaters = Artegia

| nom cmt = Article updated and well sourced

| sign = --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 22:48, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

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:Support Article is of sufficient quality for RD. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 12:36, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

• Support This one is definitely ready for the main page. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:16, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

{{ITN candidate

| article = Rajesh (Tamil actor)

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.ndtv.com/entertainment/tamil-actor-rajesh-dies-of-heart-attack-at-75-8535577 NDTV]

| updated = yes

| nominator = 240F:7A:6253:1:60F4:A537:FB68:A375

| updaters = Bebdoben

| nom cmt =

| sign = 240F:7A:6253:1:60F4:A537:FB68:A375 (talk) 17:07, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

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• Oppose filmography uncited. Aydoh8^{[what have I done now?]} 08:33, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
• :Chunks of prose also uncited. Curbon7 (talk) 10:02, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Start-class article. Celjski Grad (talk) 09:23, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
• :A start-class article is perfectly sufficient for RD, as long as it provides sufficient breadth-of-coverage. Curbon7 (talk) 09:57, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

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{{ITN candidate

| article = 2025 UEFA Conference League final

| image =

| blurb = In association football, Chelsea F.C. win the UEFA Conference League and become the first team in history to win all four European club football competitions

| recent deaths = no

| ongoing = no

| ITNR = no

| altblurb = Chelsea F.C. win UEFA Conference League becoming the first football club to win all four major European trophies

| altblurb2 = English club Chelsea F.C. win UEFA Conference League and become first team in history to win every major international trophy, UEFA Champions League, UEFA Cup Winners' Cup, and UEFA Europa League.

| sources = [https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/37002/13374961/real-betis-1-4-chelsea-blues-crowned-conference-league-champions-after-enzo-maresca-changes-in-final-spark-second-half-comeback Skysports]

| updated =

| nominator = Heatrave

| creator =

| updaters = QalasQalas

| nom cmt = Trophy win on its own is not significant, but the context of being the first team ever to win all UEFA European club competitions makes it a worthy ITN candidate. Others can suggest alternative blurbs.

| sign = Heatrave (talk) 21:55, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

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:Comment the blurb makes it seem like more of an achievement than it is, it’s the third tier of European football, most top teams want to avoid it. Seems more like a novelty than an achievement. Interesting but maybe not ITN worthy Kowal2701 (talk) 22:00, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

:Support blurb Chelsea are the first team EVER to win all the international trophies 185.34.130.25 (talk) 22:32, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

• Probably because Real Madrid and Bayern Munich will never finish low enough in their domestic leagues to even play in the Conference League. This isn't the flex that people think it is. Unknown Temptation (talk) 08:11, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• Weak oppose given that the final tourney here was not an ITNR, so the story being only that Chelsea has swept the competitions, this doesn't like a clear record that has been of interest (akin to something like the Triple Crown (golf) or Triple Crown of Thoroughbred Racing (United States) or Mile run world record progression), making this more trivia than an actual story of great significance. Particularly given this page UEFA club competition records and statistics which much appear unsourced and thus akin to original research of how significant this actually is. Masem (t) 00:20, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

:Strong Support Alternative blurb cheers to Chelsea!! They're first club in history to win every European major honour. Congratulations CFC QalasQalas (talk) 01:26, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose largely per Masem, not seeing any evidence that this particular combination of achievements has much standalone enduring notability, and the nomination statement even concedes that the {{tqq|Trophy win on its own is not significant}}. According to [https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6371965/2025/05/27/winning-all-four-european-trophies-chelsea/ NYT/The Athletic], this tournament has only been around four years (also meaning this combination of achievements has only been possible in the last four years), which is far less than what is typically seen of those at WP:ITNR#Sports. Left guide (talk) 02:42, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• Note that I've protected a couple of Chelsea images in case this gains support. Schwede66 02:49, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• :Great!! QalasQalas (talk) 03:16, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose If Jaga or Djurgården had won it it would have been a major achievement. But a middling {{strike|Super League}} Premier League team against an average La Liga side where the sides from the top 5 leagues already hover up all the money and best players, including the Champions League and Europa League, this third-tier cup is even less notable than the Intertoto at this point. Chelsea winning a new cup that's added every few years or so is no more than trivia. Abcmaxx (talk) 05:58, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• :Winning UEFA Conference League is not significant but being the first club to win all European cups. QalasQalas (talk) 06:08, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• ::But this is an ever growing list of irrelevant cups, and Chelsea won most of their trophies whilst being bankrolled by a very shady Russian billionaire. They only won this particular cup because it was a cup designed to bridge the gap between the top leagues and give some other clubs from other nations a chance, such as NK Celje for example. The competition was intentionally weaker, and Chelsea's league position shows that this season they would have only been able to compete for lesser trophies. Abcmaxx (talk) 06:16, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Short prose for the match summary. 𝗠𝗼𝗿𝗮𝗹𝗷𝗮𝘆𝗮𝟲𝟳 (talk). 07:49, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose This is not a new achievement. Four clubs (Juventus, Manchester United, Ajax, and Bayern Munich) have won all three previous iterations of the tournaments (European Cup/Champions League, UEFA Cup, UEFA Cup Winners' Cup). Our article is misleading here, because effectively the Conference League is a rebranding of the Cup-winners Cup. The Europa Conference League has only existed for four years (and one could argue that the Europa League has as well, though that was a rebranding). Indeed, there can't be that many teams that have even played in all three current tournaments. Black Kite (talk) 08:04, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Europe's third-tier football competition, for clubs who finished 6th or 7th in their domestic leagues, or were eliminated in qualifiers for bigger competitions. I just saw that Chelsea's prize money for this whole tournament was only marginally more than Slovan Bratislava, who lost all eight of their games in the Champions League. So not even UEFA see this as a big deal. Looking at how mediocre you have to be to even get into this competition, I'm sorry but this achievement is as trivial as Coventry City being the only team to have played in every English league division in history (including Third Division North and South) Unknown Temptation (talk) 08:09, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

:Support Chelsea is the first club to have won every major international trophy, UEFA Conference League, UEFA Champions League, UEFA Cup Winners' Cup, and UEFA Europa League. Dhool Geelle (talk) 11:38, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

• Comment The claim that they're the first club with wins in all four major European competitions is factually incorrect. Juventus did the same by winning the UEFA Intertoto Cup in 1999 after they had previously won trophies in the UEFA Champions League, UEFA Cup and UEFA Cup Winners' Cup.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 14:09, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

:* And one could argue that the Inter-Cities Fairs Cup (from 1964 to 1971, when qualification was by league position) counts here as well. Black Kite (talk) 15:01, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

::* Exactly. If we count that one, Valencia have also won trophies in four different European competitions, but I didn't mention it because they've never won the European Champion Clubs' Cup/UEFA Champions League as top-flight European competition.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 15:11, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

::The Intertoto Cup is not a "major" European competition, it is a minor one. Pawnkingthree (talk) 15:20, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

:::Who's to say? It takes the same below UEFA Cup/Europa League places to qualify for it. Apart from the length of the campaign , they are similar. Unknown Temptation (talk) 16:18, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose the fact they are the first club to also win a new, less-important trophy is not something that should be blurbed. 217.180.228.155 (talk) 15:54, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose not a major European competition and the fact that Chelsea is the first club to win all four "major" European trophies is something more appropiate for DYK than ITN. _-_Alsor (talk) 18:04, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose - This isn't a major competition, so all the claims that this is some kind of special record are misleading. GenevieveDEon (talk) 22:44, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

{{abot}}

{{ITN candidate

| article = Ngũgĩ wa Thiong'o

| image = Ngũgĩ wa Thiong'o (signing autographs in London) (cropped).jpg

| blurb = Kenyan writer and activist Ngũgĩ wa Thiong'o (pictured) dies at the age of 87.

| recent deaths = yes

| ongoing = no

| ITNR = no

| altblurb =

| altblurb2 =

| sources = [https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce999kwxn1ro BBC News: Giant of African literature Ngũgĩ wa Thiong'o dies aged 87]

| updated =

| nominator = Jaguarnik

| creator =

| updaters = Jaguarnik, TDKR Chicago 101, Kowal2701, Moscow Mule

| nom cmt = Ngũgĩ wa Thiong'o was considered a giant of African literature ([https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce999kwxn1ro BBC News], [https://www.britannica.com/biography/Ngugi-wa-Thiongo Encyclopedia Britannica: Ngugi wa Thiong’o...considered East Africa's leading novelist], [https://www.cambridgescholars.com/resources/pdfs/978-1-0364-0046-0-sample.pdf Cambridge Scholars Publishing : "the leading man of letters from East Africa and one of the most significant writers from the postcolonial world"], [https://www.npr.org/2020/10/10/922393253/ng-g-wa-thiongo-says-prison-formed-him-as-a-writer NPR: "a perennial favorite for the Literature Nobel"]) and was extremely influential in the postcolonialism movement; in my opinion he is not a bad candidate for a blurb.

| sign = Jaguarnik (talk) 20:08, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

• Haven't had a chance to assess on notability, but oppose on quality - much of the "Awards and honours" section is uncited, and some of the "Publications" section is as well. The Kip ^(contribs) 20:25, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support blurb, nom says it all, will try to work on citations Kowal2701 (talk) 20:50, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• :referencing issues fixed Kowal2701 (talk) 21:37, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose rd on sourcing and tags. I can squint between the lines and see why there's interest in a blurb but I strongly recommend having one clear section of the article to gather the various isolated statements about importance into one place in the article so the reader can clearly see that importance without squinting. Masem (t) 21:17, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• Strongly oppose blurb not a global figure or serving political leader. Manner of death not notable. OLDMANDIES. This is w hat we have the RD line for. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 21:30, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• :WP:ITNRDBLURB says nothing about political leaders, it says {{tq|major figures}}, and he certainly was a global figure. I suggest you read that page. Kowal2701 (talk) 21:41, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

::I agree with Kowal2701; Orbitalbuzzsaw, please stop pushing the false claim that WP:ITNRDBLURB is only about politicians. GenevieveDEon (talk) 22:47, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

• Support Blurb in terms of notability. Titanic figure in African literature, in particular due to his promotion of writing in local languages. Quality may need a final polish, but article overall looks good. Khuft (talk) 21:43, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support RD Unsure if the African figure has an important figure similar to President or other head of state regarding his/her death, but the posting as RD makes it more necessary for me. 103.111.102.118 (talk) 21:47, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

::'The African figure'? 'his/her death'? Try actually reading the article before commenting, so that you are aware of basic facts like the subject's name and gender. GenevieveDEon (talk) 22:47, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

• Weak support blurb I've never heard of this person before but based on the article he appears decently important. The article is fully cited, although it is a bit short for a blurb biography. --SpectralIon 02:39, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support blurb He is a Level 4 vital article, which means that he is very important by community consensus. I think that he is important enough to blurb. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:50, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support blurb A "titan of modern African literature". "OLDMANDIES" argument doesn’t make sense. ArionStar (talk) 03:41, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

::Yeah, this is a good example of why 'old man dies' isn't much of an argument. GenevieveDEon (talk) 22:47, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

• Support blurb Article is clearly influential in his field, the article reflects his impact on literature and is in good shape (albeit the 4 cn tags). --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 05:17, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support blurb The claim in the opening paragraph of the article, that he was the greatest East African novelist ever, appears to check out. As such, despite his lack of a Nobel Prize in Literature, he probably deserves a blurb. NorthernFalcon (talk) 05:46, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• :I just would like to see the article give significant expansion to this. A one sentence summary trying to indicating why they are a major figure is not really a sign of a quality article for a blurb. Masem (t) 12:04, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• Quality comment: There are two {{t|citation needed}} tags, one of which covers an entire paragraph. Footnote 53 of [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ngũgĩ_wa_Thiong%27o&oldid=1292882836 the current version] cites a rather long quote; its size may be too big. Left guide (talk) 12:21, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support blurb At the top of his field and clearly had a major impact. Also a chance for us to spotlight a major public figure from Africa and counteract systemic bias. Flip^andFlopped ㋡ 15:14, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• I can't see any quality issues now, so Posted. Black Kite (talk) 17:08, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

:* Just waiting on KrinkleBot to add the image. Black Kite (talk) 17:13, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

::* And {{done}}. Black Kite (talk) 17:25, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

• Retroactive Oppose blurb for the usual reasons. An elderly person dying is not news. –DMartin 04:28, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

:*"an elderly person dying" is probably not much of a headline. But this particular death, as often when such crude remarks are made here, was not that of just "an elderly person". ---Sluzzelin talk 01:27, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

::Remember that ITN is not about reporting the news, but featuring quality articles that happen to be in the news. This death made the news, and the article is of representative quality, as well as demonstrating significance as a major figure; all the checkboxes are ticked. Masem (t) 01:30, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

• Post-posting support blurb. The Wikipedia article and published obituaries out there make it very clear that he reached the top of the literary field. Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 19:57, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

:Post-posting Support blurb. BilboBeggins (talk) 20:34, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

{{ITN candidate|ITNR=no|recent deaths=yes|ongoing=no|article=Mohammed Said Hersi Morgan|source=[https://www.radiodalsan.com/general-morgan-former-defense-minister-of-somalias-last-central-government-dies-in-nairobi/ Radio Dalsan]|nominator=QalasQalas|nom cmt=Late general he was veteran during Siad Barre rule|sign=QalasQalas (talk) 20:03, 28 May 2025 (UTC)}}

:Support A well-known Somali military official. Article looks fine and well-sourced. 185.34.130.25 (talk) 22:01, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

• Support Article quality looks good. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:54, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

:Support well covered and well sourced Dhool Geelle (talk) 11:30, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality - the Siad Barre Government section needs significant copyediting. The Kip ^(contribs) 17:58, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• :Highlight QalasQalas (talk) 18:20, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

:{{@ITNA}} QalasQalas (talk) 13:03, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

{{ITN candidate

| article = Per Nørgård

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/musik-und-buehne/konzert/zum-tod-des-daenischen-komponisten-per-n-rgard-110503911.html FAZ] (in German), [https://www.gramophone.co.uk/classical%20music%20news/article/per-norgard-obituary-the-contemporary-music-world-has-lost-an-artist-of-colossal-imagination-and-influence Gramophone]

| updated = yes

| nominator = Grimes2

| updaters = Grimes2, Gerda Arendt, Aza24

| creator = Jerome Kohl

| nom cmt = Danish composer

| sign = Grimes2 12:18, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

• Support: Widely-known Danish classical composer. Article is fine and well-sourced. NeoGaze (talk) 13:53, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• Comment: I came to nominate after updating a bit. Above, I added two names of editors who made this article what it is: fine quality. I also added an obit in English above (because more people will be able to read it than German or Danish). The composer was one of the giants in classical music. His works should have better articles. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:29, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

{{ITN candidate

| article = Ōnosato Daiki

| image = File:OonosatoR6.9.22.jpg

| blurb = Ōnosato Daiki (pictured) becomes sumo's 75th yokozuna.

| recent deaths = no

| ongoing = no

| ITNR = yes

| altblurb =

| altblurb2 =

| sources = [https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2025/05/68e4a493f74c-update1-sumo-onosato-becomes-yokozuna-at-record-pace-after-13-tournaments.html][https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20250528/k10014816971000.html]

| updated =

| nominator = KTC

| creator = OtharLuin

| updaters = JRHorse

| nom cmt =

| sign = KTC (talk) 07:42, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

• Strong oppose provincial sports trivia This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 13:14, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• :Strong support As Hōshōryū Tomokatsu was posted on [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&oldid=1272583492 29 January 2025]. ArionStar (talk) 13:34, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• :@Orbitalbuzzsaw It's ITN/R so it's not a matter of "provincial sports trivia". Aydoh8^{[what have I done now?]} 12:26, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support - Promotion to yokozuna has for a long time been our standard story for sumo, and one of the only wrestling- or martial-arts related stories we regularly run. It provincial in a similar sense to the 'World' Series, but it's still highly significant. GenevieveDEon (talk) 13:41, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support ITN/R item; quality is exemplary. GreatCaesarsGhost 14:06, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support per above. The Kip ^(contribs) 16:44, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support 75th Yokozuna of all time. Promotions are extremely rare and this is Japan's national sport. Following up on the World Series analogy there have been 120 World Series champions and only 75 Yokazuna in the last ~250 years. BHC (talk) 18:46, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support Article is well-written and sourced. Topic meets ITN criteria. Perspixx 19:10, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support per BHC. Grimes2 19:40, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support Well written and follows the standard set previously. ZenZekey (talk) 19:49, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support — good article that's gotten a lot of attention, clear precedent per ITN/R. Slam dunk. Krinn DNZ (talk) 19:53, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• It has been posted (not by me, and posting admin is free to replace this with their own post). ---Sluzzelin talk 00:39, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• Posted, noting here after my internet returned Stephen 01:54, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

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{{ITN candidate

| article = Willie Stevenson

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cy8nvdv2x7jo BBC Sport]

| updated = yes

| nominator = Abcmaxx

| updaters =

| nom cmt = Death announced 27 May. Needs a few more citations but other than that the article is good.

| sign = Abcmaxx (talk) 07:30, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

{{ITN candidate

| article = Ed Gale

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://variety.com/2025/film/news/ed-gale-dead-chucky-howard-the-duck-1236411971/ Variety] [https://www.tmz.com/2025/05/28/ed-gale-chucky-childs-play-actor-dead-hospice/ TMZ]

| updated = yes

| nominator = 128.91.40.237

| updaters =

| nom cmt = He was the body (but not the voice) of Howard the Duck and was Chucky in the first three Child's Play movies.

| sign = 128.91.40.237 (talk) 15:05, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

• Oppose - much of the Career section and all of the filmography is unsourced. The Kip ^(contribs) 17:59, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

{{ITN candidate

| article = Freddie Aguilar

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://manilastandard.net/news/314594860/folk-singer-freddie-aguilar-dead-at-72-pfp-lawyer.html Manila Standard], [https://www.abs-cbn.com/entertainment/showbiz/celebrities/2025/5/27/ph-s-music-legend-freddie-aguilar-passes-away-1141 ABS-CBN News]

| updated =

| nominator = Royiswariii

| updaters =

| nom cmt =

| sign = ROY is WAR Talk! 03:44, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

• Oppose on article quality: one claim in Later life is unsourced, and not everything in the Discography table is sourced. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 05:10, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

{{ITN candidate

| article = 2025 royal tour of Canada

| image =

| blurb = Royal visit of King Charles to Canada, made in light of the American annexation threat.

| recent deaths = no

| ongoing = add

| ITNR = no

| altblurb = King Charles III visits Canada and delivers a speech from the throne to open the 45th Canadian Parliament.

| altblurb2 =

| sources = https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/king-charles-delivers-throne-speech-1.7544242

| updated =

| nominator = TimeEngineer

| creator =

| updaters =

| nom cmt =

| sign = TimeEngineer (talk) 08:31, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

• Oppose Routine and not notable. I think WP:NTRUMP probably applies here too, as I imagine that's what most coverage will focus on. –DMartin 08:35, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

:*I respect your view, but this is (a) not about Trump (and the coverage is mostly not about him), and (b) not routine. The last time the Monarch gave a speech from the Throne in Canada was 50 years ago, and the last time a King or Queen visited was 2010. Its not a frequent occurrence. TimeEngineer (talk) 09:00, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

::*I see what you mean about Trump, that's my fault as I mostly consume american news. I nevertheless think that the first clause is a reason enough to oppose. It seems more likely to fall under "huh, that's interesing" rather than "this will have long-term conseuqences". It might make a good DYK though. –DMartin 09:07, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

::*:Twice a century for the King of Canada to do this? I'd hardly call that routine. Heck, it's the first time a King has done it - the other two were by the Queen. Nfitz (talk) 22:31, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose notable? Like any visit by a Head of State to another country, especially if it is by a monarch. Routine? Also, it is one of the functions that HoS should perform. It's not ITN-worthy just because of the latter and if it has anything to do with Trump it's totally irrelevant and just another part of the political drama of his administration's bid to annex Canada. _-_Alsor (talk) 09:26, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
• Comment The visit is certainly in the news but it's still ongoing and the King opens the Canadian parliament today, which is the main event. Updates to the article are needed as the plans turn into history. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:39, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per above. The Kip ^(contribs) 15:14, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
• Strong Support, but as blurb because it is basically already over. With respect, many of the oppose rationales are not policy-based, and likely come from editors who are simply associating the visit with Trump as opposed to fully appreciating the once in a lifetime nature of the event. In my view, it surpasses the notability threshold for two reasons: (a) even in spite of the Trump aspect, it is a historic, once in a lifetime type of thing (the last time this happened was in 1977, so claims above that it is 'routine' are objectively incorrect) and (b) it is getting objectively widespread, in depth coverage amongst global reliable sources: from publications in the [https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cn4gj32g32yo UK], [https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/king-charles-and-queen-camilla-arrive-in-canada-20250527-p5m2fo.html Australia], the [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/27/world/canada/king-charles-canada-parliament-speech.html USA], [https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/3312033/king-charles-hails-strong-and-free-canada-trump-threat-looms China], [https://www.lemonde.fr/international/article/2025/05/27/le-roi-charles-iii-defend-l-autodetermination-du-canada-face-aux-menaces-de-donald-trump%206608863%203210.html France], [https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/leute/koenig-charles-setzt-mit-kanadabesuch-zeichen-gegen-trump-a-7b6c5f24-29ca-4fd2-879a-c60517635a0c Germany], I could go on. Very little of this coverage is 100% focused on Trump, and he is not even involved in the event, so WP:NTRUMP does not apply. Flip^andFlopped ㋡ 18:28, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose WP:NTRUMP also applies to {{tq|any public figure or institution that is influential enough to the point that the press reports their every single movement}}. Completely non-notable visit. — ^EF⁵ 18:31, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
• Above, I hyperlinked publications like the New York Times, the South China Morning Post, Le Monde, and Spiegel, who each have indepth reporting on this visit. Do you have evidence to back your claim that they "report on the every single movement" of King Charles III? The opposite seems true to me - many of those outlets rarely report on King Charles's goings-on, but this is so notable that they have made an exception. Flip^andFlopped ㋡ 18:49, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
• Flipandflopped, I'll formulate a response shortly, but I highly suggest you strike the {{tq|and likely come from Americans who are simply associating the visit with Trump as opposed to fully appreciating the once in a lifetime nature of the event}} part of your statement. It's completely inappropriate to discount votes because they are of a certain demographic and speculating on the nationality of editors can constitute WP:OUTING. — ^EF⁵ 19:09, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
• Let's turn down the temperature a bit. In no conceivable way did I violate WP:OUTING, and I never said anyone's votes should be discounted. I respectfully stated an opinion that the WP:NTRUMP rationales were coming from an overly American perspective, which was not intended to be derogatory at all. Flip^andFlopped ㋡ 19:27, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
• You did not say that {{tq|WP:NTRUMP rationales were coming from an overly American perspective}}, you said the editors themselves are {{tq|Americans who are simply associating the visit with Trump}}, which is assuming every oppose voter is American and is, as I stated, inappropriate. Thank you for changing it, though. — ^EF⁵ 19:38, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
• Weak support, given that King Charles is quite ill, and any major foreign visit by him is quite unusual. Nsk92 (talk) 19:32, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
• Is it unusual? He's made eleven in the past two years, and has more planned. –DMartin 21:38, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
• :A visit of the King of Canada to Canada isn't a foreign visit. For the same reason that Canada doesn't have an embassy in the UK. Nfitz (talk) 22:34, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
• :: has a High Commission in London though which serves the same function. Abcmaxx (talk) 08:14, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• Strong oppose as unimportant national-level address. If NTRUMP doesn't apply, then this was not notable to begin with. The relevant essay would be NCHARLES, correct? Departure– (talk) 19:40, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
• :I'm going to add that I don't see how this is notable in of itself. The real story here is the opening of the Canadian parliament, but that's not ITNR and a done deal given the election.
• :To clarify my other reason, I take it that this is getting a lot of coverage due to the context that this is taking place during Trump's second coming, but a lot of the folks I see giving rationales on coverage also reject NTRUMP having any bearing. It's established that it's only an essay, but the underlying truth is still there, and that is that material can be substantially overreported on occasion, and given how this has to do with both the King of England and Donald Trump, this easily is covered by it. Simply put, if Trump was not involved, at least for context, then there would be substantially less coverage and this would likely not have been nominated, let alone posted.
• :I can't see how this is any more notable than any other "rare" event. Just because something hasn't happened in a while doesn't automatically make it notable. I'm really not seeing how this is notable; Charles made a speech, and that was that. Departure– (talk) 23:10, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

:::There is no such person as the King of England, and there hasn't been since William III died. There is, however, such a person as the King of Canada, and this story is about him. GenevieveDEon (talk) 12:51, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

• Support The visit has been completed, widely reported and the article updated. Essays are irrelevant per WP:ESSAY, "{{tq|Essays have no official status and do not speak for the Wikipedia community...}}" Andrew🐉(talk) 22:53, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
• :Is this a !vote on quality or notability? Departure– (talk) 23:04, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
• ::ITN deals in quality and significance, not notability. My !vote follows on my earlier comment and addresses both and more besides. Andrew🐉(talk) 06:29, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• Leaning oppose on importance. BD2412 T 22:59, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose I'm not seeing why this deserves a blurb. Heads of state visit other countries all the time, and we almost never post them, so what makes this one so much more important that it deserves to be posted? QuicoleJR (talk) 23:59, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Maybe grounds for a future DYK, but ultimately it’s just a head of state visiting part of their realm. Not remotely newsworthy internationally any more so than if the Danish monarch visited Greenland, the Japanese emperor visited the Ryukyus, or the French President visited Guadeloupe. RPH (talk) 01:12, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• Strong Support it is a momentous occasion for the country to have the monarch open Parliament as King of Canada - the first King (male sovereign) to do so and only the third time in the country's history; Canada has a long and complicated relationship with the monarchy, and this move is a clear and decisive statement that Canada will be taking a turn away from the "post-national state" towards embracing a nationalist model of "three founding peoples: indigenous, French, and British", as PM Carney indicated in his inaugural speech. Most people are surprised to learn that Canada is a kingdom, this was not the visit of a foreign head of state as some are saying. This is a deciding point in the country's national narrative and evolution, as the previous two throne speeches by Elizabeth were. There is a throne speech at every new Parliament - meaning there have been 45 throne speeches in the country's history, 42 of which were delivered by Governors General. This is not just another royal visit but rather notable because the King is filling a constitutional role rather than merely meeting and greeting. The country is at an inflection point with new separatist movements rising in the West, meanwhile there is a kind of realignment apparently happening in Quebec after decades of separatism there. It is a chance to shine a light on this pivotal moment in the country's history, and there will likely be a "before" and an "after" for this historic constitutional, identitarian, and political moment-Larineso (talk) 05:02, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose lack of a demonstrated long term impact. (t · c) buidhe 05:24, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose un-elected head of state with no de facto power flies over on a tax-funded private jet for a formality and is present only due to a historical anachronism. Abcmaxx (talk) 08:57, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per above. IDB.S (talk) 12:12, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose simply a standard steps part of Canada's political system. Nothing unusual here. Masem (t) 12:27, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• :Factually incorrect. "No monarch had bothered to make this trip for nearly 50 years." according to The Guardian, 29 May. 2A02:C7C:DA04:1200:F642:9179:DA3A:29EA (talk) 21:40, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• ::Just because the monarchy neglected this aspect doesn't make it untrue. If anything it shows how little they matter politically given this fact. Abcmaxx (talk) 07:04, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
• Neutral, leaning oppose - There's a lot of misleading commentary about this. It's significant, and I don't want to dismiss it out of hand, but we don't generally report on, say, the State of the Union address. GenevieveDEon (talk) 12:52, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

• :Oppose, do we post other monarchs on diplomatic missions? Don't think so. Angry Islander (talk) 13:04, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

:This event was highly unusual and very significant for a number of reasons. To quote the Guardian of 29 May....

:* "This week, however, the modern British monarchy has stood up and demanded to be counted, doing something new and perhaps genuinely consequential."

:* "No monarch had bothered to make this trip for nearly 50 years."

:* [The speech had a] "far looser and more personal format than the Westminster version ... allowed the king to speak words that clearly mattered to him, and by which he will be judged."

:* "The larger point, however, is that this was a willed act by the king. Charles did not have to travel and did not have to make the speech. But he did both, even while continuing to be treated for cancer.....The contrast with his mother is impossible to miss. Elizabeth II’s hallmark throughout her 70-year reign was a studied neutrality on public affairs. She was much praised for it during her lifetime, leading some commentators to assume that neutrality was now a precondition for monarchy’s survival"

:* "So far, Charles has gotten away with it. Public concern for his own health, and for that of his family, has probably helped him. So has public sympathy over the behaviour of the Sussexes. To criticise Trump is also popular rather than risky. Amid all this, the public has cut Charles enough slack to be more himself. Those who warned that his more committed approach to public affairs could threaten the monarchy and boost republicanism have, at least at this stage, been proved wrong."

:* "Charles’s role carries risks which, when faced with a less patient public mood or different circumstances, could cause trouble for him and for the monarchy. Assuming that Charles remains in good health for years to come, how might he handle a change of government? If the current feeding frenzy about a Nigel Farage prime ministership really came to pass in 2028-29, Charles could be faced with a government that might embrace a Maga president in Washington, abandon European alliances, dismiss the net zero agenda, and go out of its way to antagonise Scotland and Wales."

:In summary, the Government of Canada and the King of Canada together chose to turn what has for decades been a ceremonial and scripted study of constitutional neutrality into an overtly political and personal act in response to Trump's rhetoric. Potentially changing the nature of the monarchy in the United Kingdom forever, even though the UK government (in all likelihood) had zero input into this whole affair; certainly having no powers of veto on grounds of their own national interest.

:On the flip side, it *was* just a speech and it *was* basically about Trump (even though he wasn't even mentioned in it).

:Hopefully that clears things up for all those above who seem to be wholly misinformed on the importance and significance angles of this event. Or indeed didn't even seem to understand the (admittedly complex) relationship between the British Monarchy and the democratically elected governments of the United Kingdom, Canada, and all their associated nations, provinces and territories.

:In short, the unelected monarch King Charles III is still the Head of State of Canada, as ridiculous as that sounds to many people. And rather than shy away from it, the de facto Head of State of the very clearly sovereign democratic country of Canada has decided to lean into this historical anachronism to defend Canada's enduring sovereignty against the equally ridiculous territorial claims of the United States. In the process potentially causing various domestic and international difficulties for the very country in which King Charles III spends most of his time in.

:That alone probably elevates this above the usual circus that surrounds Trump. It's certainly a unique reaction to Trump's Presidency, one that no other country can really make use of, except of course the 13 others who have Charles III as their Head of State. 2A02:C7C:DA04:1200:F642:9179:DA3A:29EA (talk) 22:42, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

::Your post is far too long, but its premise is false anyway. King Charles doesn't carry any political risk apart from abolition of the monarchy. This non-event has been overreported, and going around and giving speeches is one of his core duties, but even then if he couldn't attend for whatever reason or simply didn't feel like it, he doesn't have to; there would be no real consequences either way. Abcmaxx (talk) 06:57, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

:::"King Charles doesn't carry any political risk apart from abolition of the monarchy.". Well yes, that's the point. As is the fact he did bother this time. This was a significant and highly unusual move by both the Canadian government and the current head of a monarchy covering 16 nations. As such it inevitably became a much discussed reaction to one of Trump's most absurd talking points, rather than the non-attended act of bland ceremony it has usually been for nearly the last half century. You clearly don't like what I've just written for whatever reason, but nothing you’ve said in response changes the basic facts of the matter, as reflected by The Guardian, a major UK newspaper. 2A02:C7C:DA08:AB00:6B1A:93AA:7DCA:9B79 (talk) 08:59, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

• Comment I supported posting this, but it seems to me the consensus is against and it is now stale/out of the news cycle. {{@ITNA}} A closure, if anyone is up to it, would be helpful to avoid prolonged debate. Flip^andFlopped ㋡ 16:59, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

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{{ITN candidate

| article = Len St. Jean

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://www.masslive.com/patriots/2025/05/patriots-afl-all-star-len-st-jean-dies-at-83.html]

| updated = yes

| nominator = History6042

| updaters = Gypaetus, Alexgor23

| nom cmt = American football player, article seems ready to post.

| sign = History6042😊 (Contact me) 00:45, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

}}

• Support Article is ready to post. QuicoleJR (talk) 15:55, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

{{ITN candidate

| article = Liz Tomkins

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://tvtonight.com.au/2025/05/vale-liz-tomkins.html], [https://if.com.au/vale-liz-tomkins-producer-and-former-wift-chair/]

| updated = no

| nominator = Happily888

| updaters = Medelam

| nom cmt =

| sign = Happily888 (talk) 05:59, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

• Oppose Article contains several unsourced statements. QuicoleJR (talk) 15:56, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

{{ITN candidate

| article = 2025 Liverpool parade incident

| image = 2025 Liverpool car ramming.png

| blurb = Seventy-nine people are injured after a man drives into a crowd at a victory parade in Liverpool, England.

| recent deaths = no

| ongoing = no

| ITNR = no

| altblurb =

| altblurb2 =

| sources = [https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9wgvzyngn4o BBC News]

| updated = yes

| nominator = Harrz

| creator = Harrz

| updaters = Bloxzge 025, Bnwkr, Bondegezou, EEng, Einsof, Martinevans123, This is Paul

| nom cmt = Significant incident which has been reported on internationally.

| sign = harrz ^talk 17:19, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

• Support Well-cited, well-written article, and significant number of casualties despite (thankfully) no deaths. The Kip ^(contribs) 17:44, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• :If it bleeds, it leads. EEng 20:02, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• ::This is a highly offensive comment. Please withdraw it. 2A02:C7C:DA04:1200:F642:9179:DA3A:29EA (talk) 21:32, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• :::I don't think EEng meant to be offensive, but was quoting a traditional journalism saying that is common in newsrooms and television studios. Happily, nobody was killed in what seems to be a very bad accident, and because it was an accident with no fatalities I'd oppose the good faith nomination. Randy Kryn (talk) 23:12, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• ::::Just so. It surely should have been obvious that I didn't mean to be offensive, because had I wanted to be offensive I'd have made a much better job of it. EEng 23:38, 29 May 2025 (UTC) {{small|P.S., Randy: "If they're dead, it's widely read; if just hurt, it lies inert." Sorry, best I could do.}}
• :::::I am well aware of the common usage of the phrase (although many readers doubtless would not be). I have already said to you that I was sure you meant no offence, but I had hoped that in hindsight you would recognize the incredible bad taste of your attempted joke and reflect on whether it had any place here. Perhaps if you tried to reword it in plain English? Although I seriously doubt anyone here is unaware of the fact that tragic events such as this are considered newsworthy regardless of whether anyone actually died. 2A02:C7C:DA04:1200:F642:9179:DA3A:29EA (talk) 00:06, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
• ::::::And as {{tq|I have already said to you}}, my post was not any kind of "attempted joke", so at long last please put a sock in it. As for the rest, see [https://en.wikipedia.org/?oldid=1293013853#Offensive_comment]. EEng 04:35, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

:Medium support although no deaths, the amount of injuries is huge, nearly 100 to be exact. It also targeted soccer fans. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 20:02, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

:Support - If there weren’t an unfathomable number of casualties I would oppose, but the sheer number of injuries is enough to be notable. ^EF⁵ 20:04, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

• Please note that I've just posted a blurb for the 2024–25 Premier League to ITN: {{tq|In association football, Liverpool win the Premier League title.}} Nominators may wish to consider whether this candidate remains standalone, or be merged into that blurb. Schwede66 02:37, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• If there is consensus to post this, it should be a combined blurb. Left guide (talk) 02:46, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• :If that's what you'd like to see discussed, {{u|Left guide}}, could you please add an ALT blurb to the nomination? Schwede66 00:15, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Doesn't appear to be a terrorist incident, (thankfully) no deaths; 79 injured is a big number but 30 of those were minor injuries who didn't attend hospital, and the majority of those who did were discharged quickly. If this does get consensus to post, please don't combine it into the football blurb, they're two completely separate issues. Black Kite (talk) 08:53, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per Black Kite. I would add that we regularly decline to post mass killings of even dozens of people when they do not come from the Anglo world; to post this would be to collapse any sense of consistency and fairness in terms of how we treat the notability of mass casualty incidents. Flip^andFlopped ㋡ 15:17, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per Black Kite and Flipandflopped. GenevieveDEon (talk) 22:50, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

• I could support this for the dangerous precedent it set regarding the police releasing the ethnicity of suspects to quell misinformation and prevent further race riots. It is also rather obviously a highly unusual event in the UK context, one that raises serious questions about the police's ability to actually prevent a mass casualty vehicular terrorist attack when there is a sufficiently large target area and a sufficiently complex set of countermeasures. If such events are banned or dramatically scaled back as a result, that would be a very big deal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a02:c7c:da04:1200:f642:9179:da3a:29ea (talk) 00:44, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support I think that the sheer number of injuries makes this notable enough to post. Don't combine it with the football blurb, though, if it does get posted. Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 11:23, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support combined blurb. ArionStar (talk) 14:44, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

{{ITN candidate

| article = Rick Derringer

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://apnews.com/article/rick-derringer-dies-2b38685f4c97e7a9882f306628413924 AP]

| updated = yes

| nominator = The Kip

| updaters =

| nom cmt = American musician. Article is in rough shape, with a lot of uncited statements + a COI orange tag.

| sign = The Kip ^(contribs) 03:20, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

• Oppose Too many unsourced statements. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:47, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

{{ITN candidate

| article = Charles Rangel

| recent deaths = yes

| sources = [https://abc7ny.com/post/charlie-rangel-former-congressman-harlem-survivor-gang-dies-94/16553821/]

| updated =

| nominator = Muboshgu

| updaters =

| nom cmt = Article is GA

| sign = – Muboshgu (talk) 15:35, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

}}

• Support Article is GA, no need to delay this. Mooonswimmer 16:04, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support I wanted to highlight that the GA is form 2011. With special attention to sourcing/content from after 2011, I still think the article looks good and is fit for ITN Czarking0 (talk) 16:52, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support Quality looks good to me. QuicoleJR (talk) 20:50, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support Notable Congressman and the article looks good. The Vital One (talk) 22:35, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support and marking as ready, article quality is good to go. Not much to add other than what has already been said. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 01:23, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
• Posted. Black Kite (talk) 19:35, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

{{ITN candidate

| article = 2024–25 Premier League

| image =

| blurb = In association football, Liverpool win the Premier League title.

| recent deaths = no

| ongoing = no

| ITNR = yes

| altblurb = In association football, Liverpool win the Premier League, a record-equalling 20th title.

| altblurb2 = A vehicle collision occurred after Liverpool won the Premier League, a record-equalling 20th title.

| sources = [https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/apr/27/liverpool-win-premier-league-title-by-beating-tottenham Guardian]

| updated = yes

| nominator = Yorkshiresky

| creator = Tedeff

| updaters = Black Kite

| nom cmt = Joint record 20th title with Manchester United. I posted this as a candidate on 26th April after they won the title, however some argued that it should be posted at conclusion of the season.

| sign = yorkshiresky (talk) 22:34, 26 May 2025 (UTC)}}

• Comment If it were to be nominated, would we combine this with a blurb on the vehicle ramming? Kingsif (talk) 01:13, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
• :Is there an article about the vehicle ramming? --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 01:17, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
• ::Yes. Left guide (talk) 01:51, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
• :::I've added an altblurb which mentions the ramming. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 05:50, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
• Conditionally support only if this original blurb also combined with recent incidents regarding Liverpool vehicle. Otherwise, it's a very good article. 182.1.232.170 (talk) 01:50, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
• Comment: I don't think we should attempt to shoehorn the collision article into the football blurb just because it happens to be related and has its own article; that could put undue emphasis on it. If the incident alone is significant enough to make it onto ITN on its own merits, then I think a combined blurb would be reasonable. FWIW, it seems that the vast majority of incidents at {{t|Road incidents in 2025}} and {{t|Road incidents in 2024}} haven't qualified for their own blurbs. Left guide (talk) 06:07, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
• Wait The nominated article has an orange cleanup tag and so needs work. And the parade incident needs time to establish the facts and correct language. Calling it a "vehicle collision" seems misleading and my impression is that it was more of a road rage incident. Andrew🐉(talk) 06:42, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
• Comment Liverpool won the title a month ago. As many times before, failing to post this when they clinched the title makes this outdated, and we shouldn't give it a second chance if the article wasn't of sufficient quality when the winner was determined. Furthermore, WP:ITNSPORTS states {{tq|In terms of timing, events are generally posted as soon as a winner is determined.}}, so the conclusion of the season isn't really an ITNR item. The incident during the trophy parade is a separate event. --Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 06:51, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

:* It's not clear why it wasn't posted as a result of the previous discussion but it was tagged for proseline back then and the tag is still there a month later. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:39, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

• Comment. WP:ITNR states "events are generally posted as soon as a winner is determined"(emphasis mine), which isn't a hard and fast rule that we can't wait until the end of season to post the winner. –DMartin 08:56, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

:support altblurb2 though not notable on its own, since EPL is ITNR, it's a good addition to the blurb.Sportsnut24 (talk) 16:36, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

• Support original blurb The orange tag has been addressed by {{u|Black Kite}}. I see no issue with posting about it now, as Liverpool's victory continues to be in the news. However, I disagree with both of the alt blurbs - alt1 sounds a little too promotional, and alt2 groups in an event that I don't think meets the ITN notability criteria (nobody died, seems like a fluke incident as opposed to political/terrorism, etc). Flip^andFlopped ㋡ 19:55, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
• Note Marked as ITNR. -- KTC (talk) 07:28, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• :Premier League not the English Premier League. -- KTC (talk) 07:30, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose alt2 as written - I have no opinion on inclusion of the incident, but it needs to be in the correct context, i.e. that it occured around / to the crowd at the trophy parade, rather than merely it happened after Liverpool won. -- KTC (talk) 07:32, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support the original blurb - the season has just ended, so the story is still ripe (if becoming a little over-ripe). Oppose alt-2, as the ramming incident, while tragic and significant, was not so severe that we would post it independently, and it lacks a clear semantic connection to the football title. GenevieveDEon (talk) 13:44, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

::The ramming incident has now been separately nominated at ITN above. Natg 19 (talk) 18:34, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose they won the title on 27 April and that's when it should have been posted. Abcmaxx (talk) 14:49, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

::I see nothing wrong with posting now, as the Premier League season has just ended. Technically Liverpool won on 4/27 but officially they won this past weekend, and that was also when their championship parade was. Natg 19 (talk) 17:07, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

• Posted the original blurb. Schwede66 02:31, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

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