Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 March 19#1585280361
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==Is Acorn Intentionally Structured as a Criminal Enterprise?==
:The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
:The result of the discussion was delete
- {{no redirect|1 = Is Acorn Intentionally Structured as a Criminal Enterprise? }} → :Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Is_Acorn_Intentionally_Structured_as_a_Criminal_Enterprise%3F&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-02-18&end=2020-03-18&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Is_Acorn_Intentionally_Structured_as_a_Criminal_Enterprise%3F stats])
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This came to my attention due to a PROD tag that was placed on it by {{u|Woofboy}}. PROD isn't the correct deletion protocol, but I agree that this isn't a redirect worth including and that it should be deleted. signed, Rosguill talk 19:39, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
- Should this redirect be deleted? Yes. This is a search engine query which has nothing to do with WP. Narky Blert (talk) 20:49, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. WP article titles should avoid using question marks. The only exceptions should be if a question mark is used in the title of a film or a book or something. OcelotCreeper (talk) 21:16, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
- Delete as a non-NPOV redirect that serves no legitimate encyclopedic purpose. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 22:04, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
- Delete non-NPOV, and not well structured. Hog Farm (talk) 02:28, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - reason given above. (Also, sorry for giving the wrong tag! Thanks for considering it still.) --Woofboy (talk) 08:29, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
Keepas an {{tl|R with history}} (see here). To counter {{u|OcelotCreeper}}, this is {{tq|the title of a film or a book or something}}, as a [https://republicans-oversight.house.gov/release/report-is-acorn-intentionally-structured-as-a-criminal-enterprise/ political report]. — J947 (user | cont | ess), at 19:42, 20 March 2020 (UTC)- :User:J947, does the article this is redirecting to mention the book or reference it in some way? OcelotCreeper (talk) 19:47, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
- :* {{ping|OcelotCreeper}} No—but it probably should, and that's what matters. It's better leaving the redirect as it is than directing readers to this [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?cirrusUserTesting=control&search=Is%20Acorn%20Intentionally%20Structured%20as%20a%20Criminal%20Enterprise%3F&title=Special%3ASearch&fulltext=1&ns0=1 terribly unhelpful search page]. — J947 (user | cont | ess), at 19:55, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
- :** {{ping|J947}} If you or someone else finds a way to properly edit the target article to mention the redirect, then I will change mw vote to Keep. OcelotCreeper (talk) 19:59, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
- :*** {{ping|OcelotCreeper}} I cannot find a way to do so, but if a reader is searching up this political report (as they have done), they will almost certainly be looking for information surrounding the report. As such, retarget to History_of_ACORN_in_the_United_States#2008–2009. It's much better than landing readers on [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?cirrusUserTesting=control&search=Is%20Acorn%20Intentionally%20Structured%20as%20a%20Criminal%20Enterprise%3F&title=Special%3ASearch&fulltext=1&ns0=1 this search page]. — J947 (user | cont | ess), at 20:12, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
- 16px Delete. I can't imagine anyone looking this exact term up on here. --Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝) 20:15, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
- {{ec|4}} [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2015-07-01&end=2020-03-18&pages=Is_Acorn_Intentionally_Structured_as_a_Criminal_Enterprise%3F People do] and it really isn't harmful at all to keep this on here. It's either keep it or condemn readers to [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?cirrusUserTesting=control&search=Is%20Acorn%20Intentionally%20Structured%20as%20a%20Criminal%20Enterprise%3F&title=Special%3ASearch&fulltext=1&ns0=1 this search page]. {{small|Also, please don't use symbols. Install this script instead.}} — J947 (user | cont | ess), at 20:27, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - We really don't format things this way. And we absolutely shouldn't. Deciding to do so really would open up not a can of worms but a can of stinging vipers, presenting us with a whole host of problems. The number of hot button topics that can described in leading question form is endless: "Is Donald Trump the Worst President in History?", "Is the Who the Greatest Rock Band in History?", "Is the Two-State Solution Right For Israel and Palestine?", "Is the Average Man More Attractive Than the Average Woman?", "Which Ethnicity Has the Least Negative Qualities?", and my God it could just go on. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 10:37, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
- This is the title of a political report though, not just some random question. — J947 (user | cont | ess), at 18:41, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.
