Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 11#1734497850

• {{no redirect|1 = Jackask }} → :Jacksfilms  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Jackask|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Jackask closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Jackask|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Jackask closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Jackask|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Jackask closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 
• {{no redirect|1 = JackAsk }} → :Jacksfilms  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:JackAsk|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#JackAsk closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:JackAsk|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#JackAsk closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:JackAsk|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#JackAsk closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

No mention of "Jackask" at the target, nor any mention anywhere on Wikipedia outside of one, on John Milhiser, where it is listed as a "television title" that he acted in. For a Youtube series that is intended to be pronounced similarly to Jackass, such a misspelling seems to be the likely ask for searchers of this term. Especially since this Youtube series is not discussed at the target article for Jacksfilms. The singular mention at John Milhiser can very well be a piped link to Jack's general article, forgoing the need to have a potentially misleading redirect as a result. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 07:27, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

• Keep and tag as {{tl|r without mention}}. People searching for this term are unlikely to be looking for a different topic. It is mentioned on [https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/be-funny-now-jacksfilms-release-date/ Digital Trends], which is considered a reliable source. ✗plicit 14:39, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
• I could not find a way to insert this Q&A show into the target article. But I'm hoping someone else can, so Keep, or tag as {{tl|R without mention}} per XPLICIT. Jay 💬 10:23, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
• Delete both I'd prefer not to rely on wishful hope. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 05:28, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

:Keep. May not get a mention, but simply searching jackask on google would pull up with Jacksfilms TeapotsOfDoom (talk) 07:34, 15 November 2024 (UTC) {{sockstrike|TeapotsOfDoom|Okmrman}}

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• Delete, not mentioned. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:09, 16 December 2024 (UTC) Keep Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:30, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
• Mention was added on 13 November, it appears {{u|Pppery}} and {{u|Shhhnotsoloud}}, and the relisters {{u|CycloneYoris}} and {{u|Cremastra}}, missed it. Jay 💬 08:19, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oops I did miss it. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:30, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep given the now fairly-extensive mentions (twice in the lede, even!). Skarmory (talk • contribs) 17:38, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Beedeas }} → :Parrot  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Beedeas|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Beedeas closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Beedeas|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Beedeas closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Beedeas|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Beedeas closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

results gave me miscellaneous companies, a shade of cyan (or is it turquoise?), and i guess a waterfall. the literal only result i got that was related to parrot was in the free dictionary... as a redirect to parrot, meaning there's no chance in hell i'm finding out where the term even comes from. not mentioned in wiktionary either cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 20:39, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

:Given that the redirect was created on wikipedia in 2005, and the freedictionary redirect was likely significantly after (based on the internet archive), it's more likely created in error or not a term anyone is searching for in English. Hihyphilia (talk) 21:39, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

• Delete. Not mentioned anywhere in enwiki. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:11, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Amboss }} → :Anvil  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Amboss|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Amboss closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Amboss|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Amboss closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Amboss|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Amboss closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

{{strikethrough|WP:FORRED}} Paradoctor (talk) 18:11, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Dabify per J947. Draft has been created. Paradoctor (talk) 00:10, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

• Delete WP:RFOREIGN the creation comment says this is German. Anvils predate the origin of Germanic languages -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 21:06, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
• Update disambiguate per J947 ; do not list anvil -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 04:16, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
• There are a few mentions across the site, at Laurance Roman, Fade to Grey: The Singles Collection, Ash Ra Tempel (album), and Union-Rennen. The first three could potentially be dabbed? J947 ‡ ^edits 21:15, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
• :Whoops, I should've done that. Thanks!
• :Drafted dab on site. Paradoctor (talk) 00:07, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = The operational to liberal the hala'ib triangle }} → :Halaib Triangle#History  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:The operational to liberal the hala'ib triangle|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#The operational to liberal the hala'ib triangle closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:The operational to liberal the hala'ib triangle|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#The operational to liberal the hala'ib triangle closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:The operational to liberal the hala'ib triangle|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#The operational to liberal the hala'ib triangle closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

{{tl|R from merge}}, however there are (from what I can interpret) two misspellings and two miscapitalizations, so this seems very implausible. I am neutral on moving its history somewhere else. mwwv ^converse∫_edits 17:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

• WP:MAD we cannot delete the history of a merged contribution, because of attribution access, so if we get rid of this title, the redirect itself would need to be renamed to something else -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 20:54, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
• Suggest moving the redirect to 1995 Egyptian offensive in the Halaib Triangle as a descriptive title, where the Egyptians moved forces into the triangle to eject the Sudanese officials in 1995. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 21:04, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
• Move to 1995 Egyptian offensive in the Halaib Triangle per 65.92.246.77; seems reasonable and the history should be kept if it was merged. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 17:41, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Hydra (Algiers) will }} → :Hydra, Algiers  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Hydra (Algiers) will|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Hydra (Algiers) will closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Hydra (Algiers) will|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Hydra (Algiers) will closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Hydra (Algiers) will|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Hydra (Algiers) will closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

Absurdly unlikely typo. Not used in any article,. Colonies Chris (talk) 17:28, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

:Delete, implausible typo. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 09:49, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

:Delete{{snd}}the target article doesn't describe a will, and I don't see what the title could possibly refer to. jlwoodwa (talk) 07:16, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

:there was one incoming link, for some reason. it's gone now, though, so delete cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 11:15, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Baraxk }} → :Barack Obama  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Baraxk|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Baraxk closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Baraxk|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Baraxk closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Baraxk|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Baraxk closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

Unlikely misspelling for Barack. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:54, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

• Keep as creator, x is right next to C on keyboards, therefore plausible typo. BarntToust 15:56, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
• Drlete as yey anotjer arbitrsry tupo. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 16:30, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
• Delete Not a plausible typo. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:10, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:10, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep, (as a person with fat fingers) Since Barack redirects to Obama, one could plausibly extend this to a typo. JayCubby 19:54, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
• Weak keep as the [X] key is next to the [C] key on QWERTY keyboards, thus adjacent key typos are a common form of typo, so plausible. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 20:55, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
• Very weak keep, plausible-ish typo given the keyboard positions. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 09:51, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
• :So what? There are over 15,000 such typos (making a simplifying assumption of an average of 5 adjacent letters for each, which isn't exact, but it gets in the ballpark) (and more if you consider other keyboard layouts) (and a lot more if you consider other types, like letter transpositions, etc). What makes this one so special? Should we create all of them? This is even made worse by the fact that it's just his first name. What justifies keeping a redirect for a sequence of letters that any reasonable person wouldn't expect to work properly? 35.139.154.158 (talk) 17:31, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
• ::That's basically my thought, it's a Pandora's box situation. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:27, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
• :: Just because a typo redirect exists does not mean we systematically create new ones. We don't systematically create redirects for the various forms of disambiguation found on Wikipedia, Does that mean we should delete all disambiguated redirects because we are not doing so? This one exists, so we deal with this one, regardless of all the redlinks for other possible typos, which do not matter. WP:OTHERSTUFF -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 20:37, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep. By retaining this existing redirect, we are not commanding editors to create redirects for every other conceivable typo. We should consider each redirect on its own merits. In this instance, we don't have pageviews to guide us as to this typo's plausibility; however, due to how the keys on the keyboard are placed, it seems fair enough to assume it is at least somewhat plausible. – Michael Aurel (talk) 08:58, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Obsma isn't a redirect to Obama; we don't need this one either. And if anything, the typo'ed Baraxk "should" redirect to Barack, not Barack Obama. (Weird that Barack currently redirects to Barack Obama instead of to Barack (disambiguation)...) --Quuxplusone (talk) 16:37, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
• Comment redirects can't point to each other. That's why we have {{tlx|R from avoided double redirect}} which tracks such preferred forms. As "Barack" points to "Barack Obama", any redirect to "Barack" will automagically be converted (by a bot) to point to Barack Obama. If you do not think that Obama is the primary topic of "Barack", but instead a disambiguation page should be a primary landing spot, you can post a WP:Requested move to replace {{noredirect|Barack}} with Barack (disambiguation). At that point, "Baraxk" could be retargeted to the renamed disambiguation page. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 04:54, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
• :@Quuxplusone, because there are two targets besides Obama: a list of people with the name (none of whom are as relevant as the first biracial US president) and a Hungarian booze. Obama is the clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for the word. BarntToust 02:25, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Shampoodle }} → :Animal Crossing  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Shampoodle|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Shampoodle closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Shampoodle|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Shampoodle closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Shampoodle|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Shampoodle closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

Not mentioned in target. QuicoleJR (talk) 15:23, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

• Disambiguate Shampoodle is an award-nominated children's book by Joan Holub; 'The Shampoodles' is the former name of Happyland (band); the fictional location "Shampoodle" in Animal Crossing is mentioned at List of Animal Crossing series characters -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 21:09, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
• :I would be fine with that option. QuicoleJR (talk) 16:49, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
• DABify per above. I would have guessed that Shampoodle was a new dog breed as well (sham as in fake), but no, it's mostly just "give a dog a bath, shampoo + poodle = shampoodle" so lots of dog groomers name their storefront this. Anyway, the three items above should be enough for a DAB. Fieari (talk) 07:04, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Thong (footballer, born 1973) }} → :Thongchai Sukkoki  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Thong (footballer, born 1973)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Thong (footballer, born 1973) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Thong (footballer, born 1973)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Thong (footballer, born 1973) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Thong (footballer, born 1973)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Thong (footballer, born 1973) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 
• {{no redirect|1 = Thong (footballer, born 1982) }} → :Thongchai Ratchai  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Thong (footballer, born 1982)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Thong (footballer, born 1982) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Thong (footballer, born 1982)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Thong (footballer, born 1982) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Thong (footballer, born 1982)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Thong (footballer, born 1982) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

Implausible search terms. Redirects left over from misguided moves back in 2019, which were promptly reverted. While Thai people are commonly informally referred to by their nickname, no one would ever expect to identify a person by nickname alone. These redirects are akin to having David (footballer, born 1975) redirect to David Beckham. Paul_012 (talk) 15:10, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

• Delete. Normally these would be {{tl|R from move}} but they were at the former titles for a very short time. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:17, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = 2026 SA20 }} → :SA20  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:2026 SA20|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#2026 SA20 closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:2026 SA20|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#2026 SA20 closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:2026 SA20|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#2026 SA20 closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

No relevant information at the target, making this is a misleading redirect. Delete as WP:TOOSOON. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:50, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

• Keep as a redirect with no mention at target: given the 2025 season set to begin in just few weeks, the next following season could be useful for navigation. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 14:27, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
• :@Vestrian24Bio: Do you have any thoughts as to whether the redirect is misleading in any way? My thoughts are that someone looking for this season would be expecting relevant information at the target. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:14, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
• ::@Hey man im josh: My thought is that there are some users who add redlinks to Infobox etc. But, I agree with your point as well. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 16:40, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
• :::Fair enough, I do respect your right to disagree with the usefulness of the redirect while still agreeing with my general overall point. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:45, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

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:delete until at least late '25. i barely have money to sustain my garlic addiction, and i don't want to add crystal balls to my already outrageous bills cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 20:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Thank Goodness }} → :Wicked (musical)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Thank Goodness|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Thank Goodness closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Thank Goodness|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Thank Goodness closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Thank Goodness|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Thank Goodness closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

Isn't that a bit too vague to be specific too a play? TeapotsOfDoom (talk) 00:23, 20 November 2024 (UTC) {{sockstrike|TeapotsOfDoom|Okmrman}}

• Delete per nom -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 01:28, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
• Retarget to wikt:thank goodness. Web-julio (talk) 02:35, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
• Weak keep since it's capitalized and actually a title mentioned at the target. I'd be surprised if this weren't the title of anything else, in which case a dab might be appropriate, but I didn't find anything after a quick search. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 15:11, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
• Keeep per 35. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 17:08, 22 November 2024 (UTC).
  

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• retarget to wiktionary. not entirely sure how popular wicked is, but i am sure it's not popular enough to be the primary topic for a term like this. results mostly gave me thank goodness you're here cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 12:29, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
• Soft retarget to wikt. Wicked probably isn't the primary topic, and I feel like a dab (if it's even possible) wouldn't exactly do this title justice. mwwv ^converse∫_edits 22:48, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
• Weak retarget to Wikt, per cogsan and mwwv. 〜 Askarion ✉ 19:58, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

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• Repeat after me...Wiktionary redirects are BAD. This one is especially bad. Native speakers do not need to look up the meaning of such a common phrase. Non-native speakers shouldn't be looking up meanings in an encyclopedia; they should use a dictionary. Wikipedia is not a dictionary. It's claimed immediately above that this isn't the primary topic, but then what is? We have no encyclopedic content about the phrase itself, so it can't be that by default. We do have a mention of this as a song title, which is at least something. Delete it if you must, but soft redirects to Wikt should really be avoided...what would even be the point of this one? 35.139.154.158 (talk) 17:06, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep per WP:DIFFCAPS. The song is the only topic in English Wikipedia by this exact name. Literally every single other one of the 260 hits in Special:Search/~"Thank Goodness" is either a WP:PTM or a coincidental use of the phrase in the title of a source cited. There's nothing to disambiguate here. 59.149.117.119 (talk) 05:33, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep per WP:DIFFCAPS, as the only target with this capitalization. I will not repeat after IP above, as I do not agree that wiktionary links are default bad, but we have a better target here, and it's the target we already have. Fieari (talk) 07:25, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Comment: I created lower-cased thank goodness as a soft redirect to Wiktionary, which was needed for the above Diffcaps arguments to be valid. I think this also addresses most concerns. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:20, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
• Delete There's not anywhere near enough substance at the target to warrant a redirect, especially a diffcaps for a common phrase. Delete to let search show both that and the dictionary term. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:11, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
• If this ends up being deleted, please also delete {{noredirect|thank goodness}} per G7. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:16, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep. A legitimate redirect to an article that mentions it. Now that Thank goodness exists, though, there's going to have to be a disambiguating hatnote of some sort at Thank goodness and at Wicked (musical). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:24, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Casara }} → :Civil Air Search and Rescue Association  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Casara|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Casara closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Casara|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Casara closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Casara|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Casara closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

Disambiguate between the three surnames that meet the bar to be disambiguated in my view: Tristan Casara, Danny Casara, and Chico Casara. Alternatively delete, even though search results aren't the best. J947 ‡ ^edits 03:28, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

• Disambiguate per nom -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 03:39, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
• Disambiguate: draft provided. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:32, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Stafford station }} → :Stafford railway station  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Stafford station|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Stafford station closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Stafford station|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Stafford station closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Stafford station|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Stafford station closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

Disambiguate with MOD Stafford and Stafford power station. J947 ‡ ^edits 02:32, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

• Disambiguate per nom -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 03:40, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep as is. There is no way "Stafford station" would be construed to mean anything other than the railway station. The MOD site does not seem to be commonly referred to by that name, and neither is the power station; they are typically known as "MOD Stafford" and "Stafford power station", as indeed their article titles suggest.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:35, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep as is per Amakuru. G-13114 (talk) 14:59, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep although Station is a DAB page "station" along almost always means railway station. National Rail uses [https://www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations/stafford/ Stafford Station] as the title of the page and Google only returns the railway station. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:21, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

:Keep per above - the railway station is the correct choice here, based off both gut instinct and online search results BugGhost 🦗👻 23:22, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Virose }} → :Virus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Virose|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Virose closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Virose|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Virose closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Virose|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Virose closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

Portuguese for virus, or a uncommon adjective in English meaning poisonous or fetid. Delete? Plantdrew (talk) 01:52, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

• Delete. This link gets a hit once every three to four days, and if that's people looking for the English definition of virose then a soft redirect to wikt:virose could be appropriate, but if it's people looking for virus in Portuguese then it would better to delete as there's no particular affinity between the language and the topic. I'd lean delete as I'd rather not guess and search results has a Wiktionary link anyways. ― Synpath 15:59, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
• Delete no particular affinity with the Portuguese language --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:31, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

:eh... sort of. it's actually portuguese for "virosis", but no one really cares about the difference. that aside, delete, as i still haven't found any evidence of brazil's existence, much less of viruses and virosises having any particular affinity with it or portugal cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 20:15, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Crouch, Swale (talk) 20:30, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

:Forked Decision Path Well, this all depends on why people are accessing this page every 3-4 days. If they're looking for a definition of the English term virose, then soft redirect to wikt:virose. If, on the other hand, they're looking for virus in Portugese, then delete due to WP:FORRED Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 04:56, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

• Soft Retarget to :wikt:virose to give the benefit of the doubt to what the significant number of users are looking for. Fieari (talk) 06:12, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

:Delete or Soft Retarget per WP:FORRED. In the other case, Virose is an uncommon word and the users may be looking for a defintiion. Ca ^{talk to me!} 12:58, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Soft redirect. This appears to meet the four criteria at {{tl|Wiktionary redirect}}. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:31, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Langauge }} → :Language  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Langauge|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Langauge closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Langauge|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Langauge closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Langauge|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Langauge closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 
• {{no redirect|1 = Mota langauge }} → :Mota language  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Mota langauge|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Mota langauge closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Mota langauge|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Mota langauge closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Mota langauge|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Mota langauge closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 
• {{no redirect|1 = Lhowa langauge }} → :Lhowa language  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Lhowa langauge|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Lhowa langauge closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Lhowa langauge|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Lhowa langauge closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Lhowa langauge|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Lhowa langauge closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

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Delete. The existence of these three redirects, as explained in previous RfDs, actively obstructs the effectiveness of the MediaWiki search engine. "Langauge" is a very common typo and misspelling, which counterintuitively means that the existence of these three redirects is problematic. The best way that this can be explained is by comparing the helpfulness of the search results for [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&fulltext=1&ns0=1&search=french+langauge French langauge] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=french+lagnuage&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1 French lagnuage]. The "lagnuage" one is significantly more helpful in directing the reader to French language. The existence of word misspellings in page titles 'throw' the search engine, so to speak.

The aim of {{tl|R from misspelling}}s is often to get around the drawbacks of the MediaWiki search function, but in this situation these misspellings accomplish precisely the opposite function. It appears as if the introduction of Vector 2022 has not significantly ameliorated this problem. Alternative solutions to deletion tend to be quite drastic: making these redirects soft, or having a bot create a "langauge" redirects for all corresponding "language" titles. Making redirects like this exempt from Search is the ideal solution, but one that cannot be implemented with any magic word as of yet. J947 ‡ ^edits 00:03, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

• Keep Langauge; Delete the other two. This strikes the balance between having a single common misspelling without embarking on a misguided explosion of redirects; why we have Amercia but not Amercia the Beautiful; many other similar examples of misspelled single-word redirects that end there. UnitedStatesian (talk) 01:22, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
• Weak keep all as it is a common form of typo, adjacent character transposition, an this typo particularly seems to show up for "language" as "langauge" -- The redirects will get you where you want to go without the search engine. The example provided only applies to the base term, not the other two. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 03:42, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
• :These redirects certainly won't get you where you want to go at all if you type French langauge, English langauge, Spanish langauge, Chinese langauge, Arabic langauge, Japanese langauge, German langauge, or indeed any title with "langauge" in it except these 3 out of 25,000. Admittedly the second and third redirects aren't nearly as problematic as langauge, but they are still obtrusive to those wishing to find languages mentioned in the article such as [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?go=Go&search=Ske+langauge&title=Special%3ASearch&ns0=1 Ske langauge] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?go=Go&search=langauges+of+India&title=Special%3ASearch&ns0=1 langauges of India]. J947 ‡ ^edits 21:07, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
• ::That, *X langauge" redlinks, is immaterial. We do not need to systematically create new typo redirects, just to keep existing typo redirects; otherwise, the entire server capacity of Wikipedia would be chewed up by bots making systematic redirects of one form or another to be completist. The existing typo redirects will get you where you want to go, for the two langauges that have this redirect. And for language in general. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 04:22, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
• :::That is not my argument. J947 ‡ ^edits 05:12, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
• ::::Then why bring up redlinks? [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=French+langauge&title=Special%3ASearch&ns0=1 search French langauge] brings up Homeland, because someone misspelled "langauge" in that article. Thus this typo-form is not working in the searchbox. But Mota langauge before the RfD would bring you right to the proper article. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 21:02, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
• :::::I've removed the typo "langauge" at Homeland, so at least "French langauge" ("Chinese langauge", etc.) no longer give unexpected search results. Hyphenation Expert (talk) 22:46, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
• ::::::The ways of the search engine are sufficiently abstruse that I have little-to-no confidence in saying so but {{em|*I think*}} that that is because this redirect is at RfD (and so no longer a redirect). A perhaps clarifying example is [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=languge&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1 languge]; [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=German+languge&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1 German languge]; and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=German+lagnuage&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1 German lagnuage] – this better illustrates the problem. The {{-r|langauge}} redirect is problematic for readers searching up any of the languages mentioned at language, which are plentiful in number. J947 ‡ ^edits 08:47, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep Langauge, delete the others. It's a common typo, but we couldn't possibly have them for all combinations. Nardog (talk) 03:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep all. Common typo per everyone else. 67.209.129.129 (talk) 08:57, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep Langauge; Delete the other two per above comments. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 17:25, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
• It can sometimes be helpful to read the nomination statement and the previous discussions before deciding to advocate for what is objectively the most harmful solution. J947 ‡ ^edits 21:07, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
• :I did for one and, on balance, voted for the solution which seemed least harmful to me. It is not harmful to have a redirect "Langauge" to Language. As many in all discussions have noted (particularly User:Tavix but even User:Uanfala, who proposed the initial RfD), it's a very common and plausible misspelling. But I agree with others that creating similar redirects for every language is unhelpful, and the search problem seems likelier to affect individual languages rather than the base article. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 23:11, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep all and have a bot create the misspelling redirects for all languages. This is a very common typo. -- Tavix ^(talk) 03:07, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
• Strong Keep Langauge, very common typo... extremely common even. Not just a typo, but a common misspelling too, in fact. Keep all the others (but not as strongly). I would not object if a bot created this typo for all languages, but I do not advocate it either-- I feel like the ones that exist can continue to exist, new ones can be created piecemeal as people make the typo and feel the need. Fieari (talk) 07:15, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
• Verry week keap of "langauge" as at least a mildly plausible spelling error (rather than a typo). But definitely delete the other two, per the previous consensus, and as such redirects become increasingly useless the more specific you get, these being fairly obscure topics indeed. I'm a little horrified that people are seriously suggesting that a bot should create redirects for every article title with "language" in the name. There's no end to the amount of words that can be misspelled and the ways of doing so. It's one thing to open Pandora's box; it's another entirely to actively shake its contents out all over the floor. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 16:21, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

:The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).