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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 30, 2025.

==Cade Clair==

  • {{no redirect|1 = Cade Clair }} → :Hyperpop  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Cade Clair|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Cade Clair closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Cade Clair|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Cade Clair closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Cade Clair|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Cade Clair closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

Redirect from an artist to a genre. Not mentioned in the target. We have mentions at Look Don't Touch, Shake That Shit!, XIII Sorrows, and a few others, but none seems obviously the main topic to redirect to. Rusalkii (talk) 22:46, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

==KenTacoHut==

  • {{no redirect|1 = KenTacoHut }} → :Yum! Brands  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:KenTacoHut|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#KenTacoHut closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:KenTacoHut|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#KenTacoHut closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:KenTacoHut|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#KenTacoHut closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Ken Taco Hut }} → :Yum! Brands  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Ken Taco Hut|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Ken Taco Hut closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ken Taco Hut|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Ken Taco Hut closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Ken Taco Hut|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Ken Taco Hut closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ]
  • {{no redirect|1 = Ken Taco Huts }} → :Yum! Brands  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Ken Taco Huts|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Ken Taco Huts closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ken Taco Huts|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Ken Taco Huts closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Ken Taco Huts|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Ken Taco Huts closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ]
  • {{no redirect|1 = KenTaco Huts }} → :Yum! Brands  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:KenTaco Huts|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#KenTaco Huts closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:KenTaco Huts|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#KenTaco Huts closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:KenTaco Huts|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#KenTaco Huts closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ]
  • {{no redirect|1 = KenTacoHuts }} → :Yum! Brands  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:KenTacoHuts|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#KenTacoHuts closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:KenTacoHuts|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#KenTacoHuts closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:KenTacoHuts|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#KenTacoHuts closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ]

Not mentioned in target. Appears to be a restaurant featuring three of Yum's franchises in one. I think it's a meme? Does not appear to be notable enough to add to the Yum article. Rusalkii (talk) 21:50, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

  • Comment These seem to be a thing, or was a thing. Googling "ken taco hut" turns up quite a bit of results. Since this is/was a Yum! triple-franchise outlet, the origin of wanting to make these redirects seems clear. I'm not sure it has to be mentioned in the article, but it seems to be clearly a subtopic, if a very minor one. The main question for me is whether this is a worthwhile search term. Pageviews on these appear to be sparse. Stefen 𝕋owers among the rest! Gab • Gruntwerk 00:05, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

==Valea Pietrei Mici==

A Valea Pietrei Mari is mentioned in the target, but this seems too far away to be a plausible typo and not helpful if this is some kind of different tributary. Rusalkii (talk) 21:17, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

:{{Strikethrough|Keep {{endash}} see the edit histories of Valea Pietrei Mici River and Valea Pietrei Mari River; they were separate articles until 2019. Specifically, Valea Pietrei Mici is a tributary of "Timișul Sec de Jos", which is a right tributary of Timiș, like Valea Pietrei Mari. I don't see how it's "not helpful".}} x RozuRozu • teacups 21:54, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

:: It's not helpful because I, or any other readers, can't actually figure that out from the article. As far as anyone clicking on this redirect is concerned, the information they have received is "this is probably related to this river in some way", but they are left guessing if it's a tributary, and alternative name (for which entity?), or something entirely different. If the information you just mentioned can be incorporated in the article then I'd be perfectly happy with this redirect. Rusalkii (talk) 22:33, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

:::Thank you for your response. I've added "(including Valea Pietrei Mici)" to tributary Timișul Sec de Jos. Please feel free to tweak the wording if it's suboptimal. I will also change the tributaries' redirects to point to the "Tributaries" section of the article, if that helps. Additionally, I've started to search for more specific reliable sources regarding the tributaries of Timiș, and hope to improve the section. x RozuRozu • teacups 18:41, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

:::On second thought, I suppose the right thing to do here is to establish consensus first, since it's "Redirects for discussion" after all. I will strike my previous comment and make a new one. I apologize if I'm not doing this correctly. x RozuRozu • teacups 18:45, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

:Retarget to Timiș (Olt)#Tributaries {{endash}} I've added "(including Valea Pietrei Mici)" to tributary Timișul Sec de Jos, and suggest specifying the redirect to the "Tributaries" section in order to clear any confusion about Valea Pietrei Mici's relation to Timiș. x RozuRozu • teacups 18:49, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

==Stinko==

Stinko was originally created as a redirect to Alcohol intoxication with the edit summary {{tq|slang term referring to alcohol intoxication/drunkenness}}. It was subsequently retargeted to Lake Washington with the rationale that it's mentioned there. However, the mention is noting that the {{tq|October 5, 1963 issue of the Post Intelligencer referred to the lake as "Lake Stinko"}}, which seems awfully trivial. Stinko (slang) still redirects to Alcohol intoxication, but the term isn't mentioned there currently. Should it? -- Tavix (talk) 21:17, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

  • In my google results the closest thing to a primary topic is mentions (in the use–mention distinction sense) of the slang term, which would suggest a soft redirect to :wikt:stinko. However "closest thing to a primary topic" is not the same as "the primary topic" as there are uses of the slag term, the names of multiple characters and various other things that don't come close to being primary (or even notable in at least most cases, although characters by this name are mentioned at G.I. Carmen, Lloyd in Space and True and the Rainbow Kingdom). One topic that was not present in my search results was Lake Washington so that target is definitely wrong. In Wikipedia search results, the meaning Wiktionary gives as secondary ("of poor quality", defined elsewhere as the stronger "awful" and "abysmal") seems to be more common so alcohol intoxication as a target (even if it were mentioned) isn't the greatest either. On balance I think soft redirect to Wiktionary is probably best, but this preference is weak. Thryduulf (talk) 01:57, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete in favour of search results which links to wikt in the sidebar. No objection to soft redirect to wikt either though. ⇌ Synpath 12:38, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

==Wannafucks==

No longer mentioned on target page RaschenTechner (talk) 20:36, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

  • Delete, not helpful without a mention. Rusalkii (talk) 17:31, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

==30/500==

  • {{no redirect|1 = 30/500 }} → :Wikipedia:User groups  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:30/500|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#30/500 closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:30/500|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#30/500 closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:30/500|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#30/500 closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

Unlikely cross-namespace redirect. Even if we did want to redirect some mainspaces searches to this page, I doubt anyone is typing in this one. Instead of, say, Extended confirmed, which points to a mainspace page. (Also, WP:30/500 exists, so if we do decide to keep this it isn't even the most appropriate target). Rusalkii (talk) 20:34, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

==Whimpering Wastes==

Game mode of Wuthering Waves [https://wutheringwaves.fandom.com/wiki/Whimpering_Wastes] (I'm not sure why it's tagged as from a meme). Not mentioned in target. Rusalkii (talk) 19:44, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

:This is very useful because, memes related to game's name attract more attention. Ahri Boy (talk) 09:20, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

==Dictyoglomus==

When Dictyoglomus is deleted, we can rename the page Dictyoglomus thermophilum to Dictyoglomus. The Dictyoglomus thermophilum page is actually about all of genus Dictyoglomus, not only one species. Jako96 (talk) 19:31, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

==First fire==

Exists from a previous PROD but the target is now a DAB - and the phrase doesn't appear in any of the articles Ivey (talk - contribs) 16:29, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

  • Comment. Assuming the PRODed content was accurate (it was unreferenced but plausible, although mostly how-to) then this is a specific term in relation to furnaces (google suggests it isn't limited to any one type). My first thought was "origin of fire", searching that phrase led me to The Origin of Fire, which is a 1902 Finnish cantata and I would be very surprised to land there after using this search term! Control of fire by early humans is closer to what I was thinking of but I'm not certain that's close enough? It wouldn't help people who are looking for the usage in relation to furnaces, but it is linked as "earliest fire" on Template:Human timeline and it is the primary topic when I google {{kbd|"first fire" -Wikipedia}} when I exclude partial title matches of (probably non-notable) businesses and histories of fire brigades. Thryduulf (talk) 02:18, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :Another thought I just had was when earth's atmosphere could first support (sustained) fire (I vaguely recall a PBS Eons or SciShow episode about this). Google results for my vague query string suggest this was the result of the Great Oxidation Event but that article does not include the word "fire" and nor does Neoproterozoic oxygenation event linked in the hatnote. I haven't been able to think what we would title an article about this topic, and my vague searches are just leading me to articles about the (far) future - the exact opposite of what I'm looking for. Thryduulf (talk) 02:38, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :: Fossil record of fire would be a decent article for that other thought. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:50, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
  • :::Indeed it would, thank you. Looking at this with (slightly) more awake eyes I'm thinking the best option here is either a set index/disambig or a redirect to Control of fire by early humans with hatnotes to Fossil record of fire and something related to the furnace/kiln sense if we have any relevant content. I'm about to add a hatnote from the former to the latter based on the History of fire redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 10:16, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

==Bartholemew Kuma==

Unplausible typo redirect that was never updated. MimirIsSmart (talk) 10:37, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

==Wikipedia:6P==

Confusing redirect for a humor essay that already had 4 shortcuts, none of them necessary. Also, in the event that we actually add a 6th pillar to WP:5P at some point, we should leave this available for that. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 07:04, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

:{{Agree}} HouseLiving roomDIY Fixings 03:22, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

==Vlad p==

File:White x in red rounded square.svg Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:

:The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

:The result of the discussion was speedy delete

. Rusalkii (talk) 22:28, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Vlad p }} → :Vladimir Putin  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Vlad p|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Vlad p closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Vlad p|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Vlad p closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Vlad p|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Vlad p closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

Unlikely and ambiguous name with incorrect capitalization. Google hits are for a wide assortment of other people. I could eventually find some references for Putin under this name after appending his actual surname to the search, but it seems rare and less common than using it to refer to actual Vlad P.'s. We do not have Vlad P or Vlad P.. Rusalkii (talk) 05:06, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

:Oops, forgot about this redirect back in March. Speedy delete as author. 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 22:08, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

:The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).

==Hana Adamcová==

The person's last name on the target page before marriage was "Adámková" not Adamcová. FromCzech (talk) 17:46, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

:Keep and tag as R from maiden name and R from misspelling. Adamcová is a common Czech surname that is spelt similarly to Adámková. Traumnovelle (talk) 05:02, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

::The combination of someone searching for her by her maiden name and with a typo is highly unlikely. Moreover, it is a two-letter typo. It is not customary to create redirects in such cases. FromCzech (talk) 12:28, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

:::I wouldn't create it but someone already has and it isn't harmful, it isn't a typo in the sense of hitting the wrong key but rather a misspelling and a plausible one at that. Traumnovelle (talk) 20:23, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

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{{resize|91%|Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Rusalkii (talk) 04:15, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

:Keep per Traumnovelle. x RozuRozu • teacups 19:03, 2 June 2025 (UTC)