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=Completed requests=

==Completed requests August 2008==

:{{done}} merging histories of the two articles. The talk page histories can't be merged though, because there wasn't a cut&page move in the past, and there have been new changes to Talk:Indo-Canadians. I moved the old talk to an archive of the new talk page, so it's currently at Talk:Indo-Canadians/Archive 1. --PeaceNT (talk) 13:59, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

==Completed requests July 2008==

==Completed requests June 2008==

==Completed requests May 2008==

  • Milovan Destil Markovic → Milovan Destil Marković: called for move, found needed histmerge. {{done}}. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:34, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Saint Peters, Missouri → St. Peters, Missouri: called for move, found needed histmerge. {{done}}. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:29, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Youth Noise → Youth Noise (organization) Latter page was created by cut&paste of content from former on March 2 2007. All edits in the history of Youth Noise before that date belong to Youth Noise (organization). --ShelfSkewed Talk 21:24, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
  • {{done}}. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:20, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
  • I'm not too sure I'm in the right place but here goes anyway. Someone has moved, with no real explanation, Horace Smith-Dorrien to Sir Horace Smith-Dorrien. Wikipedia policy is that titles such as 'Sir' should not appear in the page name: therefore, this move is contrary to policy. I would swap them back but I'm not 100% certain that I could do it without creating new problems. Could an admin or some gifted person restore the status quo ante? Nunquam Dormio (talk) 15:08, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
  • {{done}}: revert an ordinary move. No delete and no histmerge needed. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:43, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Thank you! Nunquam Dormio (talk) 15:10, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Radyo Ng Bayan Lucena → DWLC copy paste moved 28 May 2008 • Gene93k (talk) 23:36, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
  • {{done}}. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:39, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
  • They've co-existed for a bit now, so not entirely sure if they can be usefully hist-merged, but most of the history of much of the content is at the wrong title, so I'm hoping someone that enjoys the challenge of the more complicated cases can figure out how to get as much as possible fixed. St. Joseph College Cavite City (the correct title, at least as far as not having the 's) has a few stand-alone edits, mostly in Feb-March 2008, then a big import fairly recently from St. Joseph's College Cavite City (in existence since Sept 2006) [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=St._Joseph_College_Cavite_City&diff=210978930&oldid=210978130 here]. Shawisland (talk) 04:03, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
  • The new matter that was put in St. Joseph College Cavite City at [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=St._Joseph_College_Cavite_City&diff=210978930&oldid=210978130 this editing] did not come from the then-current edit of St. Joseph's College Cavite City, as [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=St._Joseph%27s_College_Cavite_City&diff=211227356&oldid=195952882 this editing] shows. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:53, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
  • :*Argh. My bad--such a big chunk of text I assumed (should have checked) it came from the other article. Apparently that same chunk of copyvio from http://www.eskwelahan.net/news/?p=1004 was added to both articles within about a day of each other. Sigh. Looks like the actual content move happened Feb 5 from [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=St._Joseph%27s_College_Cavite_City&diff=189261202&oldid=188087105 this] to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=St._Joseph_College_Cavite_City&oldid=189261036 this], which it's basically back to after removing all the copyvio added earlier this month. Shawisland (talk) 05:34, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Hereinafter X means St. Joseph's College Cavite City and Y means St. Joseph College Cavite City.
  • Uhh. It seems that on 5 Feb 2008 User:Pilipinaskabite cut-and-paste moved X to Y, leaving X blank. Then in the same minute the bot User:ClueBot reverted the blanking as suspected vandalism, converting the cut-and-paste into a copy-and-paste, producing parallel versions. After that X was edited 24 times (not counting a redirect to Y).
  • {{done}}. I moved to Y the edits of X that happened before the 5 Feb 2008 copy-&-paste. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:59, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Could someone restore the page histories that were deleted at Braun Racing when the page was moved over a redirect. These look like they were backwards merged like the Yates Racing/Newman Haas debacle that was fixed earlier this month and the deleted histories will be needed to fix. Just restore them each to a temp pages for now. Thanks -- Cmjc80 (talk) 02:52, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Braun Racing has 3 deleted edits: the first of these is a stub article dated 19:32, 11 November 2005, and the other two are redirects to Akins-Braun Racing and Akins-Braun Racing, all 3 being by User:D-Day.
  • Deleted redirect edits are often found under articles which have been moved by an admin over a redirect. Is this requested undeletion necessary? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:51, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Braun Racing was also merged incorrectly. The edits prior to Feb 9 2006 need to be moved to Akins Motorsports and the first edit mentioned above to the original Braun Racing article should be merged into the current one. -- Cmjc80 (talk) 01:46, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Still query re the Braun Racing etc edits. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:31, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
  • What happened was that Braun Racing purchased Akins Motorsport. Unfortunately when the pages were merged, Akins Motorsports was turned into main article when it should have been the redirect. The original Akins edits need to be split off into their own article so that page can be expanded about its pre-merge history. The intital few edits made to Braun Racing should be restored as the start of that article. Right now, the wikipedia article for Braun Racing is actually older than the team itself. -- Cmjc80 (talk) 22:25, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Page Akins Motorsports currently has only 3 edits, all redirects. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:37, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
  • {{done}}. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:59, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

*Italian Empire → Italian Colonial Empire

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==Completed requests April 2008==

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==Completed requests March 2008==

:History merge {{done}}. Thanks, mattbr 11:10, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

::Heavens no - the BEV article only has a few edits, starting with,[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battery_electric_vehicle&diff=prev&oldid=190689459] the electric car article goes back to July 2005, and needs to have the discussion and history moved. This is the first edit for the to do page and refers to the BEV article.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ABattery_electric_vehicle%2Fto_do&diff=190792058&oldid=134031535] I have been pretty much avoiding both articles until the mess gets cleaned up. 199.125.109.105 (talk) 20:57, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

::There is only one edit to Talk:Electric car that has to be merged in after moving talk:Battery electric vehicle to talk:Electric car, and I do not see any edits to talk:battery electric vehicle at all, although there is a todo page for both articles. 199.125.109.29 (talk) 19:35, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

::You can also move Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Battery electric vehicle to /Electric car 199.125.109.29 (talk) 20:51, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

::Is that Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Battery electric vehicle and Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Electric car? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:18, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

:::Yes - it shows up as a broken link at the top of the talk:Electric car page where it says "view its sub-page". 199.125.109.89 (talk) 16:41, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

==Completed requests February 2008==

= Requests rejected =

==Requests rejected August 2008==

  • I'm not sure if this qualifies as a pure cut&paste, but I've merged the contents of Unicode normalization into Unicode equivalence, because the former was a meaningless table without the latter. This was not a simple cut&paste though. I'm not sure what, if anything can be done about the page histories. 19:01 & 19:06, 28 August 2008 User:VasileGaburici
  • {{notdone}}. Parallel histories. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:44, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Surfer Dude & Surfer, Dude. The latter title should be used for the repaired article, since it quite clearly has a comma in the film poster. PC78 (talk) 21:14, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
  • There are systematic differences between these two threads of edits. I suspect that they are parallel versions. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:37, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
  • {{notdone}}. User:PC78 replaced this request by a plain move request, which I have {{done}}. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:16, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Not for the faint of heart: older revisions of Dragon Warrior (disambiguation) (20:17, October 24, 2004 and earlier) pertain to the video game series currently at Dragon Warrior. The article started at Dragon Warrior and was moved elsewhere by cut and paste. Then part 1 of the article history was over-written by a disambig page. Then the disambig page was moved to Dragon Warrior (disambiguation) and part 2 of the history was moved back to Dragon Warrior. — CharlotteWebb 20:54, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Partly {{done}}: I have history-split Dragon Warrior (disambiguation), moving the edits 20:17, October 24, 2004 and earlier to Dragon Warrior (version 2). There are systematic running differences between the simultaneous parts of these 2 versions, which are for part of year 2004:
  • Dragon Warrior mentions a country called Alefgard, and does not have sections ==North American Games List== and ==Fan Translation Games List==.
  • Dragon Warrior (version 2) does not mention Alefgard, and has sections ==North American Games List== and ==Fan Translation Games List==.
  • Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:46, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

:::*{{Comment}} The attributions that were in Dragon Warrior (version 2) have been moved to Dragon Warrior (NES game). Steel1943 (talk) 17:38, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

  • {{notdone}} Kinsey scale was merged into Kinsey Reports, needs a histmerge. MBisanz talk 01:31, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
  • History merge is inappropriate in this case. The two articles have parallel histories, so history merging them would hopelessly shuffle the edits together. In these cases, we just not the origin of the content in the history and perhaps on the talk page. The history of Kinsey scale should stay at that redirect. Cool Hand Luke 01:44, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

==Requests rejected July 2008==

==Requests rejected June 2008==

  • Old Dominion University Police to/from Odu police (reported by {{db-histmerge}}). {{not done}}, as parallel versions (content forking) which started as a copy-and-paste. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:42, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Body of light cut and paste to Subtle Body 03:40to42, 30 June 2008 User:Redheylin
  • {{notdone}} as it is parallel versions. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:29, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Kama (Theosophy) cut and paste to Kamarupa (Theosophy) 03:40to42, 30 June 2008 User:Redheylin
  • {{notdone}} as it is parallel versions. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:29, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
  • I apologise for this, since it's my "work", and because as an admin i should know what to do in these circumstances - but I've never merged page histories before. I've just cut & pasted everything that was at Dunedin branch into the National Association for Science Fiction article. The Dunedin branch article was a speedy A7 candidate and I've since speedied it. Trouble is, of course, the page history. All the edits relevant to the text were done by one ediutor, but in several edits (they're shown at Special:Undelete/Dunedin_branch). My editing of them into the N.A.S.F. article is shown in [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Association_for_Science_Fiction&diff=222443926&oldid=222425606 this edit], and I have subsequently copyedited the addition to the N.A.S.F. page. If anyone could (a) perform the history merge and (b) instruct me how to do history merges myself in order to avoid this happening ain future, I'd be very grateful! Grutness...wha? 11:13, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
  • {{notdone}}, as they are parallel versions. If page A has been text-merged into page B, and pages A and B were edited independently before that, do not then histmerge A into B, else the history of B will come to contain the history of page A jumbled in with the history of page B. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 20:23, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
  • {{notdone}} Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AndyCarlson from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andy Carlson (listed as {{db-histmerge}}), as they are parallel versions. I put in each page a hatlink to the other. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:04, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

==Requests rejected May 2008==

==Requests rejected April 2008==

  • WFLB and WAZZ: {Discuss}: WFLB appears to have been created for the purpose of describing an FM station located in Fayetteville, North Carolina. I intended to edit the article about the station but didn't get around to it because my source had information related to other stations. One of those stations was WAZZ, and I made the majority of contributions to that article. When I looked at the WFLB article intending to add to it, I realized nearly all the content (the rest was links and templates) referred to WAZZ (once called WFLB) or to a defunct TV station, and the WAZZ-related content should be moved to the WAZZ article. But copying and pasting the content would be improper because the original contributors to the WFLB article would no longer be in the history that goes with that content.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:29, 20 March 2008 (UTC).
  • Histmerge impossible, as these two pages have been edited in parallel. I made the text merge. The text in page WAZZ "On August 1, 1996, ... bought WFLB along with WAZZ and WEWO. ...... Soon after that in 1997, the station swapped letters with WAZZ." seems to imply that there are two radio stations involved, WFLB and WAZZ; someone who knows more than me about the history of USA radio stations please clarify. (I live in England.) Did radio stations WFLB and WAZZ genuinely take each other's letter codes in 1997? Or what happened? The existing text seems to be all about the radio station that was WFLB and is now WAZZ; some information would be useful about the radio station that was WAZZ and is now WFLB. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 07:11, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
  • I was waiting to add that text until the actions were completed so I would know I was editing an article entirely about what is now WFLB. Thanks.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 13:55, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Okay, done. I had some other sources (newspaper articles mostly) but I'm going to wait and deal with them later. For now, what I have done is enough.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 14:37, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Histmerge {{not done}}. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:34, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

==Requests rejected March 2008==

  • WKAP (former Allentown radio station) and WYHM → WSAN - The station changed their call sign to WYHM and changed formats in 2006 but the article was never moved and a new page was created for WYHM. When the format and call sign was changed again in 2007 to the current WSAN aother new article was created. According to the guidelines on Wikipedia:WikiProject Radio Stations, the station article should have just been moved to the new call letters both times with a new section added for each format. Since most of the info on the pages are redundant, and it should have remained one article all along, the page histories should just be merged. Thanks, RobDe68 (talk) 22:40, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
  • This is an example of copy-and-paste, not cut-and-paste. These articles have overlapping history. In fact, they all currently exist. History merging them is inappropriate because it would shuffle all the edits together chronologically, which would destroy their context. It could be that two or more of these pages should be merged, but a history merge is not needed; just redirect the extras. If you need to combine some of the content, just note the location for the original content, then paste it into the final destination. Turn the merged article into a redirect, and the history should be left there for future reference. Cool Hand Luke 23:15, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
  • I made both pages redirects to their section in the main article. I still think the lion's share of the station's history (keep in mind all 3 articles are essentially about the same station) is on the redirect "WKAP (former..." and should be with the main article page, but I guess that's just not possible. RobDe68 (talk) 17:59, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
  • I moved some pages around so that the original article is now the main page and the 2 newer articles are now redirects. I made a note on the talk page that some edit history for that station can be found on the redirect pages. I think that's the best that can be done in this case. Thanks, RobDe68 (talk) 21:50, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
  • {{notdone}}. Attempt to get histmerged two pages which were being edited in parallel. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 14:14, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Ordos culture and Ordos people
  • It's probably too late to do anything about this but a cut-n-paste occurred [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ordos_culture&diff=140563975&oldid=139480976 here] when the content of Ordos people was moved to Ordos culture. Ordos people was [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ordos_people&diff=140564041&oldid=140402041 made a redirect] to Ordos culture a few days later. Both pages have prior and subsequent histories. The current location (Ordos culture) is a better location for the subject (the prehistoric people) but I want to make a stub for the modern Ordos people (a Mongol subgroup) and wonder if the history could all be consolidated before I do it. — AjaxSmack 20:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Parallel histories, so can't histmerge. Page Ordos people was started by copy-and-paste, not cut-and-paste. Leave it. Rename the current page Ordos people as Ordos (ancient people) and start a new page Ordos (modern people)? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:46, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
  • {{notdone}} Cool Hand Luke 17:59, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Venus Doom Live ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Venus_Doom_Live&action=history history]) needs to be merged with Digital Versatile Doom ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Digital_Versatile_Doom&action=history history]). Venus Doom Live is a redirect to Digital Versatile Doom. Digital Versatile Doom is the correct name for the article, but Venus Doom Live was created before Digital Versatile Doom was. — Save_Us † 00:09, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
  • The supposed cut-and-paste move would be from http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Venus_Doom_Live&oldid=188531190 to http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Digital_Versatile_Doom&oldid=188655341 , but these two are so unlike that I suspect that they are independent creations. Venus Doom Live was not changed to a redirect until after Digital Versatile Doom had been edited many times. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 07:07, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
  • {{notdone}} Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:42, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Sprint Corporation->Sprint Nextel Cut/paste moved on August 12 2005. Leave the post Aug 12 edits(redirects and vandalism) at Sprint Corporation. -- Cmjc80 (talk)
  • This one should not be done. The Sprint Nextel article was based upon Sprint Corporation, but also an older version of Sprint Nextel that existed before August 2005. These versions were inadvertently deleted in a previous merge and never restored. I have restored them, so now one can see that the two articles existed simultaneously and were edited apart from each other before 14 Aug, 2005. Therefore, these separate threads should not be merged together. Very good catch. I've been impressed with your finds. Cool Hand Luke 07:42, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Cool, works for me Cmjc80 (talk) 01:15, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
  • {{notdone}} Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:42, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Emergency tourniquet & Tourniquet. I realize that this isn't really a copy and paste situation, but hear me out. The page currently known at "Emergency tourniquet" used to be named "Tourniquet." On 2 April 2007, "Tourniquet" was moved to "Emergency tourniquet," and a new stub was started at "Tourniquet." A few weeks later (and after 2 very minor edits), on 29 April 2007, the "Emergency tourniquet" article was abandoned a sentence or two used to create another article (Emergency bleeding control). Now, I want to revive the old "Emergency tourniquet" article (a decent article) and move it back to "Tourniquet" (still a stub after almost 1 year). Rather than renaming the current "Tourniquet" article to a new page that will never again be accessed just to preserve the history, why not history merge the articles? There are only 2 overlapping edits that are very minor. Otherwise, these articles developed sequentially with no parallel edits. If these articles are merged, I would then revert to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Emergency_tourniquet&oldid=125733762 this version] and continue editing from there, merging back some content from the current stub page. I think this is the best way to handle the situation, as there would be no copying and pasting between articles. --Scott Alter 19:29, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
  • No. Merging parallel histories creates muddle. Currently, Tourniquet briefly describes the two sorts of medical tourniquet and links to full descriptions of each sort in Emergency tourniquet and Surgical tourniquet; this situation seems satisfactory to me. I have reverted page Emergency tourniquet from a redirect to a text file. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 20:53, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Having done some work on this area in emergency bleeding control, I believe that there is no justification for the separation of emergency and surgical tourniqets, and they should all be merged under tourniquet. OwainDavies (about)(talk) edited at 09:24, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
  • I get the impression from these articles that a surgical tourniquet is most often a pneumatic device, and an emergency tourniquet is anything that can be used as a tourniquet. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 11:26, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
  • I believe the reason surgical tourniquet got its own article is because it is pneumatic. However, the general use of the term tourniquet is non-pneumatic, but not necessarily for emergency use. Non-pneumatic usage is much more common for venipuncture than it is to stop emergency bleeding. I don't think "tourniquets for venipuncture" needs a separate article than tourniquets for bleeding control. I requested the history merge because there were no parallel histories (until your recent changes), besides two minor edits immediately after one article was turned into a redirect. --Scott Alter 00:24, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
  • The current situation seems to be satisfactory. Page Emergency tourniquet has the history of the long article about emergency tourniquets. Page Tourniquet has the history of the short article which is a short summary and a disambig between Emergency tourniquet and Surgical tourniquet. The move from Tourniquet to Emergency tourniquet is listed in Tourniquet's log as "23:17, 2 April 2007 Gnoble (Talk | contribs | block) moved Tourniquet to Emergency tourniquet ‎ (This article deals principally with emergency tourniquets, and not other types like surgical tourniquets. This move is being made as part of several other changes and additions to the Wiki tourniquet-related content.)", i,e, it was a proper move, not a cut-and-paste. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 11:32, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
  • {{Not done}}, as no discussion in the last 10 days. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:26, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Court TV -> Tru TV Channel changed names on Jan 1 2008, please histmerge. If possible, please do no include the Jan 1 edits to Court TV as the page should have been a straight move. -- Cmjc80 (talk) 22:20, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
  • History merge looks inappropriate to me. They are the same network and should be merged, but the Tru TV article was re-written from scratch and has a different history. Cool Hand Luke 04:27, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
  • The page was supposed to be moved and rewritten on the new page. Why do you want to loose 4 years of edit history to a redirect page? Even the editor that made the new page(Mr. Senseless) agrees it was the incorrect thing to do Talk:TruTV -- Cmjc80 (talk) 04:42, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
  • When topics are merged, the history of one of them always stays at the redirect. There are tons of redirects with years worth of history. Cool Hand Luke 07:01, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
  • {{notdone}} Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:42, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

==Requests rejected February 2008==

  • Darth Sidious (a redirect) → Palpatine - There was not any cutting and pasting, but I believe they developed separately for a while before they were merged. Darth Sidious seems to have a [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Darth_Sidious&action=history significant history]. - Maximillion Pegasus (talk) 01:39, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
  • They did indeed develop simultaneously. For that reason, a history merge would be inappropriate. The edits would be hopelessly shuffled together. Cool Hand Luke 02:08, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
  • I guess I did not realize that. Sorry. Cheers. Maximillion Pegasus (talk) 02:14, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
  • {{Not done}} Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:49, 26 February 2008 (UTC)